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Safe Barrios in Gran Buenos Aires

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bhundley

From: United States
10/27/2004 17:00 EST

My wife and I are considering moving to Argentina next fall. My wife is from Argentina (San Isidro, BA), but she hasn't lived there for almost 10 years and things have changed since then. Obviously we want our family to be safe and enjoy life there, but we would prefer not to live in an apartment. However we would probably feel safer in an apartment several floors up. Those of you that live or have lived in Gran Buenos Aires, whether in apartments or homes, do you feel safe? The barrios that we are looking at are San Isidro, Martinez, Acasusso and Olivos. Ultimately, we are looking for quiet and safe barrio where we can live in a house close to some good private schools.

Any advice would be much appreciated!

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cbirnie2

From: United States
10/28/2004 11:32 EST

I lived in BA 1998-1999. We lived in an apartment in Belgrano and I felt very safe. San Isidro is still a quite pleasant place to live as well!

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Steve

From: Argentina
10/31/2004 10:12 EST

Hi,

Read your message and concern about security situation in the Northern Suburbs of Buenos Aires (specifically in San Isidro) and the need of advice. To be honest with you, the subject that you are bringing into consideration is not easy. It is true that things here (I would say everywhere in Bs Aires) has generated quite an issue regarding kidnapping, theft, uncertainty, violence, etc. So in order to offset all of these inconveniences you have to take certain precautions and obviously one of them is where and how to live and be prepared for all matters concerning security. Things have changed quite a lot in the country in these last 10 years mainly economic reasons after the devaluation we had over 2 years ago (a lot of poverty, beggars, jobless, etc). To answer your question and not make this reply long and boring to you, I think that you could find an interesting place to live around the areas you have described. The benefit of renting or buying a house is mostly benefitial (besides things here are now much cheaper in u$s terms after the devaluation we had), and we have excellent bilingual schools that provide top education. In so far as values of real estate and other matters, would need to know more specifics in order to give you better guidelines. As a reference, a nice closed in barrio (maybe your wife is aware of it), is called San Isidro Chico, good accomodations, private and with quite an amount of expats and foreigners living there for the same reasons you are asking. Rents here range between u$s 3000 and u$s 6000 a month. My suggestion, having children in appartments is complicated (lol), so I would go definitely in getting a house. If you need I can provide pictures and details of listings by mail.

Well, I am open to answer any questions that you may have and make life easier for your future transfer over here. Don't hesitate in e-mailing me when you can (arice@arnet.com.ar).

Hope to hear from you soon.

Best regards,
Andrew

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porkah

From: United Kingdom
11/13/2004 05:59 EST

I have visited a few times and also been to some of the areas you mention in more affluent times. The last time I was there, there were many reports of muggings and kidnapping in these areas, but it would appear that people are still wearing items of value which would signify this affluence and therefore make you a target. As a foreigner, you will also receive little sympathy from the pickateros should you try to venture into the city on a day they have decided to stop trains, metros, or rutas.

I believe the second respondant hit the nail on the head - closed barrios. I would not personally consider moving to Gran Bs As unless I was located in a closed barrio. Also, I would be very reluctant to use my own car to go anywhere, probably would resort to using "known" taxi companies.

It IS sad that these measures are now necessary, but you have to remember that (in many cases) through no fault of their own, these people do not have money to feed even their own children. Faced with this adversity, it is not difficult to understand the desperation of the robbers, and the fact that the value of human life has decreased to such a level as to be almost irrelevant. To them, the facts are simple, you can afford to feed your children and they cannot - kill or be killed.

I have not included the last para to scare you or to evoke sympathy for this plight, but to help you to realise what you are up against, and therefore make the apprpriate decisions with as much relevant information as you can have.

Saludos y espero que hagas la decision correcto

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NicoThumbs
9/3/2009 01:37 EST

Hello! A few months ago my girlfriend went to Buenos Aires and rented an apartment in Palermo, near Cordoba Avenue. She was very satisfied with the attention and service of Baires Apartments, a company that specializes in Buenos Aires Apartments rentals. Take a look!

http://www.bairesapartments.com

Cheers,

Peter.

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