mikelley
From: United States
9/6/2016 09:08 EST
I have been informed by my manager in San Rafael that the cooperatives and bodegas will be paying 7 pesos per kilo of grapes this harvest due to the shortage of grapes as many vineyards lost their crops due to El Nino rains. This is a good sign as the price last harvest for my reds was only 2.45 pesos/kilo. Things are looking up!!
Mike
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TomP
9/6/2016 09:22 EST
Mike,
Thanks for the info and I think it is necessary because most Bodegas do not share information about the prices they pay. This posture tends to keep us vineyards owners in the dark.
I have sold my grapes over the last few years under an Elaboration Agreement. For my 2015 Malbec grapes I received AR 5.4 pesos per liter. For 2016 the price was AR 16 pesos per liter, quite a pleasant increase.
Mumms purchased my 2015 Chardonnay grapes for AR 2.9. pesos per kilo and I received AR 6.0 pesos per kilo.
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TomP
9/6/2016 09:22 EST
Mike,
Thanks for the info and I think it is necessary because most Bodegas do not share information about the prices they pay. This posture tends to keep us vineyards owners in the dark.
I have sold my grapes over the last few years under an Elaboration Agreement. For my 2015 Malbec grapes I received AR 5.4 pesos per liter. For 2016 the price was AR 16 pesos per liter, quite a pleasant increase.
Mumms purchased my 2015 Chardonnay grapes for AR 2.9. pesos per kilo and I received AR 6.0 pesos per kilo.
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triffic
10/10/2016 08:02 EST
why are we paying nearly U$8.-
for a kilo of seedless grapes here in panama
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pampas
10/12/2016 10:03 EST
I produce a small amount of grapes on my finca and have managed vineyards and sold grapes to cooperatives here in San Rafael. The issue with producing grapes is that you are always downstream and have to accept what you are given. Ideally one should *preserve* the grapes as wine either with a third party that will make and charge you for making the wine and keeping it or by using your own equipment which would mean investment. I happen also to have been involved in wine selling/exporting and importing beginning in 1990. The hardest thing is ultimately to sell your wine which even though is good and may have a good value for money ratio, is little known and hence that work to get it known is a lot. Conclusion: nothing is easy with wine. Or as they say: start off with a large fortune to make a small one!
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pampas
10/12/2016 10:03 EST
I produce a small amount of grapes on my finca and have managed vineyards and sold grapes to cooperatives here in San Rafael. The issue with producing grapes is that you are always downstream and have to accept what you are given. Ideally one should *preserve* the grapes as wine either with a third party that will make and charge you for making the wine and keeping it or by using your own equipment which would mean investment. I happen also to have been involved in wine selling/exporting and importing beginning in 1990. The hardest thing is ultimately to sell your wine which even though is good and may have a good value for money ratio, is little known and hence that work to get it known is a lot. Conclusion: nothing is easy with wine. Or as they say: start off with a large fortune to make a small one!
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triffic
10/12/2016 12:14 EST
@pampas
this is not fair
farmers have all the hard work and responsibilities
there should be a way to skip greedy corporations
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TomP
10/15/2016 09:10 EST
When you find a way to "Skip the greedy corporations" please let me know.
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TomP
10/15/2016 18:28 EST
triffic,
It isn't always just the big mama corporations that screw the little guy ior farm worker. Local Bodegas, even the small ones are pretty good at it.
Also, until 2016 and Presidente Macri, the prices I received for my grapes went up nearly zero from AR 3.2 pesos per kilo to AR 3.6 pesos per kilo. Meanwhile my worker wages went up from AR 1400 pesos monthly to AR 9000 pesos per month during the same period.
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