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SunshineSuzie
8/8/2017 12:53 EST

Hello everyone. My husband and I are hoping to move to Belize in about 2 years. I have been reading articles, blogs and checking out renting vs purchasing a home. I have read that exists cannot work for 2 years, is that true? We are planning a visit within the year. We are looking into a possible cruise vs just flying down. Does anyone have suggestions? Thanks in advance.

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Mikxx
8/8/2017 13:14 EST

In order to work you need a work permit. This will be granted (or not) most likely if you start your own business.

After living 12 months in Belize you can apply for residency that includes a universal right to work and a right to vote in local elections. The processing of this permit can take another 2 years according to what I heard.

The saleries are very low and the business opportunities do not really exist.

To sum it up: Forget working in Belize

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ferriswhitfield
8/8/2017 14:40 EST

Believe what you read at least for now. In two years they may change their rules. They are very protective of the locals I've heard and do not want ex-pats taking their jobs. I go for my first trip Oct. 12-19, so I will write more when I get first-hand knowledge. Take care!

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bobbyveee
8/8/2017 15:21 EST

An expat couldnt live on locals pay, so dont bother even thinking of working there, its the same thro nearly all the Caribbean countries. No one would employ you without a work permit.
Belize is a place to retire not work, Unless you can start a business that actually makes money, you'll end up losing yopur shirt like so any others, At least 60% return home within 2 yrs of moving to Belize, thats why those of us who have lived long term or still live in Belize always recommend only renting and never sell up back home. Good luck

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Conmurphy
8/8/2017 17:11 EST

Hi,
For those interested, work permits are available in Belize.

Its highly recommended that you use a local processing agent who knows the procedure to assist.

For those who may require assistance you can contact CJM International Corporate Services at cjminternationalcorporate@gmail.com.

Other visa options available,

Regards

Conor.

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bobbyveee
8/8/2017 17:42 EST

The above sounds like more gov. corruption , residency and land were being sold openly by senior gov. members, everything can be bought for $$$$$$$$. do you really want to live like that ???

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Conmurphy
8/8/2017 17:55 EST

Yes,

if you wish to get a job digging ditches or working as a chef in a village eatery you will not make a huge amount of money.

If you provide similar services to people as a business owner you can make much more money.

If you have a skill lacking in Belize you can get a work permit and sometimes earn nearly as much as you could in the US with the much lower living costs available in Belize.

I love it here, its not all doom and gloom as some portray it,

Conor

But if you take a little time and bring a skill you have, you can make a viable living in Belize.

There are a multitude that you could try.

You wont probably make millions but you might find out how full you life can be with a little less income and a little more complete life.

Just my opinion from being here for 15 years,

C

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Conmurphy
8/8/2017 18:01 EST

It's not all like that,

Yes, like most in the world, the government has issues.

Which government doesn't?

Its stable, and the rights of foreigners and citizens alike are being strengthened by better international money laundering compliance regulations and more in depth accountability for all.

Come check it out, dont just take the opinions of folks who couldn't make it outside of the US.

Independence takes a little effort...

Conor

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bobbyveee
8/8/2017 18:01 EST

Con , Starting 15 yrs ago is totally different to starting now, my wife got residency and a good job teaching scuba diving, you cant get that now. More expats going home broke than staying, and if your injured or taken seriously ill, if you cant get home quickly, you die. There are so many 'Conned' in Belize its unbelievable. If it sounds too good too be true IT IS. Beware of expats bearing gifts .

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Conmurphy
8/8/2017 18:27 EST

No,

That's not true, you can get a work permit and work locally until your get permanent residency,

5 years from that you can apply for citizenship,

Work Permit Processing assistance available if needed.

Conor

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Chasenbelize
8/8/2017 22:31 EST

SunshineSuzie,
I wouldn't go with the cruise idea, most are only a one stop in Belize City and you are hit with the push excursions. The best way is to spend a week or more and explore. I've been there 6 times in all parts of the country and will be moving to San Pedro at the end of the month. So explore the country its small and see what fits you.

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Conmurphy
8/9/2017 02:07 EST

Bobbyeee,

Whatever happened to you im sorry, but what you are saying is not true in most circumstances.

It seems you might have made some ill informed decisions in the time you spent in Belize.

We all make some,

I did initially.

Work permits and residency are still available to suitable applicants,

If any readers want to know more, please ask.

Yes bobbyveee, the hospitals arent great here, but its only 2 hours to Miami and less to Merida, where great medical service is available.

I dont know where the base for your acid like opinion about belize comes from, although I might be able to guess.

I think for the right type of person Belize can be a dream,

Lets us both continue to differ on how great Belize is as a destination, and I will continue to love living here,

I invite any readers to submit any questions they might have about Belize,

Conor

Regards

Conor

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terrific
8/9/2017 03:46 EST

Connor I am getting confused are you offering some sort of service to get permits and such like in Belize.
I ask as the tightened up rules claim that applications for Work permits, or residency, can not be through a 3rd party.
Yes residency and work permits are available, but as far as i know you have to jump through all the hoops yourself to get them.
Employers can apply for work permits for "named" employees but they have to prove that there are no Belizean citizens or legal permanent residents that could fill the vacancy, before offering a job to a expat without any legal status.
That hasn't changed much in the last 4 or 5 years if anything they have been tightening up those categories that apply as certain jobs can not be offered to those without legal status.

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5allan1
8/9/2017 06:36 EST

I agree with terrific, which is an uncommon but noteworthy event. It was a real song and dance to get a work permit for myself 10 years ago. In the 90's you could make money in Belize not now. The country is impoverished and corruption seeps down to the lowest levels of society. Theft is a national pastime partly due to the cultural sharing ethic
Belize is not a working destination. Its a questionable place for retirement in comparison to some of its regional neighbours who are 30-40% cheaper overall with better infrastructure including efficient and less costly utilities and internet and commodities. Except in a dire emergency you dont want to ride in a bus or plane for hours for good medical care.
This conmurphy ( good moniker) is a commercial expat. Truth is a vague notion for them.

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Retirednavy
8/9/2017 08:07 EST

Ditch the " cruise", you won't experience anything about Belize. Instead, use those monies to rent a house for a couple weeks in both Placencia, and Ambergris Caye. Experience life here, shop and cook your meals. Travel from both locations and discover yourselves if you still think it's for you, and where exactly you want to live. Then when ready, rent for a year ( or 6) to learn what
I've is really like in Belize.
It's not all rainbows and unicorns, and not like a vacation destination by any means.
Good luck

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katzgar
8/9/2017 08:46 EST

reading back a few dozen threads you pretty much have all your questions answered so why are you posting? A cruise puts you in Belize a few hours why would think that is a viable way to look at Belize?

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bobbyveee
8/9/2017 08:47 EST

Conor, we loved Belize, had a great time there, but AC changed dramatically and when my wife started to get skin cancer we knew it was time to go. We have many friends there and still visit. Unless you have a special skill that no one else has and your skill is needed , you are unlikely to get a work permit, if you come in via the QRP scheme your not allowed to work, and starting a new business is very difficult, we had a few friends who worked from Belize and ran overseas companies using the internet. If its such a dream why do over 60% return home within 2 yrs, Im not running Belize down, but people need to know the good the bad and the ugly, and the way banking is going its increasingly difficult to do biz and get your money out of Belize. Good luck to all wanting to try out Belize

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bobbyveee
8/9/2017 17:30 EST

I agree totally with Triffic and Allan, you dont come to Belize to work, Con, who said stuff about me thats as made up as his how easy it is to get work. He,'s either on the take and linked to a bent gov. official or totally out of touch. or a bit of all of them. The trouble is Belize is the easiest and nearest English speaking country to America, not including Canada, and attracts many conmen and unsavoury types, beware of any expats offering help, except for one or two who are totally genuine. Take off the rose tinted glasses, come visit and judge for yourself what the REAL truth is

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Conmurphy
8/9/2017 18:51 EST

Hey Bobbyveee,

Im not sure what your problem is with Belize.

I think its great, but I agree its not for everybody.

Its takes some real life skills sometimes, its no nanny state.

Its certainly not perfect, but its perfect for me and my friends.

Ive been here for 14 years, I have a law degree and and an offshore providers license, and 14 years experience doing business here.

And no, I own no corrupt officials here, never have.

The immigration department is going through a massive audit and real senate inquiry due to past corrupt practices and now its going to be much much harder for anyone wanting to try subvert the laws of Belize.

Legitimate applicants can get visas with a small fraction of the red tape that you would go through if you were a non US citizen seeking a US greencard or work permit.

Menial labor gets paid a pittance.

Less than $20 per day in many cases, a little more on the Cayes and Placencia.

I dont think its easy to find highly paid employment in Belize.
Unless you work for a foreign company you make local wages.

If you work online or want to , living in Belize can afford you a much lower cost of living while still making western wages online.

Unless you have great qualifications local work will afford you a good local lifestyle.

If you have some trade-able skills or qualifications you can do quite alright.

If you are looking to make real money it is often more practical to start a business as highly paid local employment is not that common.

Owning a business is not for everybody, you need some initiative and drive.

How much do you think you need to live down here?

A whole lot less than back home, i can assure you.

I said, or mean to say, I cant remember it was a late night reply... that getting a work permit isnt hard in most cases, if you get assistance.

I do have the knowledge of the laws and procedures to actually achieve legitimate, legal work permits for my clients.

You can hate Belize as much as you wish bob,

Its my little paradise, you dont have to like it,

Thanks to everybody for reading,

Ask any questions you might wish,

Con

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bobbyveee
8/9/2017 19:12 EST

Con, im glad its your little paradise, it was ours to back before you arrived. I love the country, hate the corrupt officals, life there isnt that cheap, we always owned everything we needed, homes vehicles etc, we live on the Nature coast of Florida and it costs us a lot less than living in Belize, we also travel the world, so no expensive starts out of Belize and all our necessary medicals are free, we see great art and culture, not available in Belize, we3 eat far better than we could there. I nwas part of the British Armed Forces that kept Belizer from the hands of the Guat. Seems you have a chip on your shoulder, i dont and i tell life as it really is no rose tinted glasses. Glad you and your cronies are happy and prosperous. Ive lived and served all over the world and can afford to live where i choose, hence not living on AC any more. You make your choice and bed and lay in it, 60% of new expats get up and flee home having in many cases lost a large amount of their money. Your Rob. Ex Mil. ex CBI

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Conmurphy
8/9/2017 19:36 EST

Hi Mikxx,

I agree with most of what you said,

Although, I believe with some proper research there are viable business opportunities here.

I recommend anyone thinking of opening a business here come here, rent, live here for a while and do their research.
No work permit needed for that.

Yes,badly handled residency applications can take years to finalize, but assistance to qualifying candidates is available and can greatly reduce the timeline by seasoned advocates pleading the case with the relevant authorities in the proscribed lawful manner.

Yes, i do have a vested interest in the information Im giving.

I'm promoting my company's services as a legitimate, legal, by the book processing assistance provider.

If we agree to take a case we offer a money back guarantee if we dont successfully complete the contract in a timely manner.

Im living and working here and loving it.

Many expats do begin to miss home and move back, sometimes for health and family reasons.

And yes, providing reliable services to incoming expats for a reasonable price (not lawyers crazy rates), can be a good business model.

There are niches here to explore, I encourage anyone thinking of trying to give it a shot.

Its not about renouncing your citizenship, you can dip a toe in the water for a few weeks and test it.

We advise everyone test Belize by being here for 6 months before making any major financial decisions,

It might be the escape to paradise you are looking for,

If you are right for Belize, it can be great.
Belize cant solve any problems you bring with you, that's on you.

Regards

Con

But hey, this is pretty much and ad for me, so follow you best instincts.

Con

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Conmurphy
8/9/2017 19:55 EST

Hey 5allan1,

That's what my mom named me, so there's not much I can do about it.

Con Murphy, its has Gaelic mythological connections that are probably lost to this forum..

Its an Irish name, and I'm Irish born.

Yes, I'm self employed and I live and work here everyday, so i suppose im a "commercial expat".

Im not fully familiar with the term.

Im not retired so maybe thats it.

I obviously wont dissuade you from your bleak opinion of Belize.

It is under developed, even a little frontier like.
There is crime in certain areas.

But its a beautiful country and I love the freedoms its affords.

Except for your immigration status the governmental interference in your life is a fraction of what is is back home.

Not for everyone but tens of thousands of foreign born citizens love it here.

So, obviously im with the Belize is great, warts and all, crowd,

Everyone has their own opinion,

Regards

Con Murphy

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Conmurphy
8/9/2017 20:09 EST

Hi,

Me here again,

You can get work permits for most legitimate businesses and for local employment in Belize.

Tens of thousands of work permits are issued every year.
Unless you have a skill needed by a local employer, you will need to apply for a work permit on your own behalf.Assistance is available if you need it.

Rent for at least several months before buying any property here. Make sure Belize is right for you.

If you want information on work permits or eventual residency options, just ask.

Regards

Con

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Conmurphy
8/9/2017 20:33 EST

Hi,

Me here again,

You can get work permits for most legitimate businesses and for local employment in Belize.

Tens of thousands of work permits are issued every year.
Unless you have a skill needed by a local employer, you will need to apply for a work permit on your own behalf.Assistance is available if you need it.

Rent for at least several months before buying any property here. Make sure Belize is right for you.

If you want information on work permits or eventual residency options, just ask.

Regards

Con

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Conmurphy
8/9/2017 21:00 EST

Hey Bob,

Thanks for the well considered reply.

You have real Belize credentials, i didn't know you were here for so long.

With only 1500 soldiers in the Belize Defense Force (local army) I know that some ex UK service members who served at Batsub or before when it was at its full capacity have had difficulty re-skilling here in Belize.

As a former secretary for the RBL here I know dozens or maybe hundreds of ex service men in similar circumstances now.

Finding good emplyment is not impossible and i know many quite successful ex servicemen in Belize.

I must admit that as the 2nd Irish secretary for the local RBL, i was not the most diligent in that role. . .

I hope you enjoy the irony.

Actually, i must admit when i think about Belize I always think of the mainland, and often inexcusably forget about the cayes.

A big omission on my part, im heading out there this week to reconfirm my numbers there.

I know nearly half of the tourism dollars are spent on san pedro but thats actually not where most ex pats live.

Big money is made on San Pedro, but out there its a lot more commercial.

Corozal, Orange Walk, Belize City, San Ignacio, Ladyville, Placencia, Punta Gorda, etc... all have pros and cons. (please pardon the pun)

I just moved back to ladyville after 5 years back in Cayo, and I had a great time in Cayo.

Check out Remos Road House in bullet tree village, 3 miles from San Ignacio and only $3 BZ i the local collectivo taxi.

Work brought me back close to the City.

I could realistically operate from S.P, but daughter attends school here.
Best Regards,

Con

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dqtester
8/9/2017 21:35 EST

How is this valuable to anyone? Everyone has to make decisions based on where they are in life. I live in Florida but originally from the Caribbean so no one has to explain how things work in the Caribbean. I'm building a house in the south of belize and honestly everything I've experienced in the building process has not surprised me, but it did surprised my wife who is from North Carolina. We want a "slower" pace of life and we can get that in Belize. It's not for everyone but it works well for us.

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Conmurphy
8/9/2017 21:42 EST

Well said!

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5allan1
8/10/2017 07:00 EST

A commercial expat is someone who lacks objectivity and gives lip service to the "warts". If you are trying to sell a service or product as you do to attract expats, then posting verifiable truth becomes counterproductive.
The reality of living there is that the majority of the roads are dirt, the traffic laws are lax, there are few and ineffective police, the borders are porous, corruption by government officials is rampant and overt at all levels,the infrastructure is poor, the costs of living is highest in the region and health care is relatively primitive. The violent crime rate is astronomical, the justice system is a joke and violent offenders regularly walk free.
All of this is the price of a laid back ineffective society.
You imply that there are tens of thousands of expats in Belize but an extrapolation of Belize census data points to 3200 usa expats there compared to 20,000 in Panama and 975,000 in Mexico.
There are reasons to numerous to mention about this discrepancy. If you want to dispute any of this info,now is the time.

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Retirednavy
8/10/2017 07:46 EST

So Sunshine, hope you have been entertained with these threads. Sounds like there are people that need to " get a room"?
Bottom line is, take all that you read on this page with a mega grain of salt.
The after doing your own research, come down and visit The area/areas that look like possible places to live.
Talk to both locals and expats living here.
Life, work, cost of living, etc. is different depending on where you choose to live. We decided over Ambergris Caye to build and live on the Placencia Peninsula.
Less crowds, better beaches, lower cost of living. But that's for us.
Everybody is correct that you will never get rich here ( u less you are a scamming land developer).
You can buy or start a business. Work permits are available as well as businesses, at least here on the peninsula. Keep in mind, they aren't for sale because owners got rich and are retiring ??
So come down and check out yourself,
Good luck.

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terrific
8/10/2017 18:57 EST

Connor so are you saying that out of the goodness of your heart you will plea to speed up the residency process, for a "Qualified applicant" pray tell what makes an applicant Qualified.
Or are you saying Paying you will enable someone who can speed up the process becoming involved. Do you claim that residency can be obtained without the 12 months stay required before you can do the paperwork to apply or that you know how to just jump the line for "YOUR Clients" Interested as My son is just going into the 2nd year wait after his paperwork going in. He's at the last stage now but there are many others at this stage,
So those paying you to cut the line Is probably a good reason some folks up and leave as following the rules is proving to be a bad idea. Years of the monthly misery that is Immigration day can be a big deterrent.
When is it LEGAl to cut the line by paying MONEY to a 3rd person.

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terrific
8/10/2017 19:11 EST

By the way also ex Brittish military from the 90's, Back in the day when they had Harriers by the airport. And a military Hospital. Pity you are not adversing your links to the RBL very well as for the last few years I know many folks who were trying to find links around remembrance day for poppies etc. Still after being here going on 4 years total my, also ex British military, son has heard nothing about any activities by the RBL and we are based in Belmopan.
It would be nice to know more next spring when hopefully my husband and I will be able move over full time my husband would be more than a little interested as ex Maj RAMC. I was also in the QARANC but gave up on marriage as in the bad old days there was not a choice.

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Mikxx
8/10/2017 19:20 EST

Nothing is easy in Belize. And even if you buy a passport or residency, which I do not doubt is possible, it is not legally obtained.
Either you go through the long process and get it done properly or not.
Just to stay in Beize you can also renew your passport stamp every month.

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bobbyveee
8/11/2017 08:19 EST

We never heard anything about the RBL on AC , lots of expat military living and working there and the British warden is ex Hussars, runs a private bank, thats how we got our $belize in exchange for US cheques. By the way Terrific, I spent a wk in the military hospital in Aldershot in the late 60's , and you ladies are the best i ever came across, absolutely brilliant. I take my hat off to you all, the RAMC were pretty darned good too !!!

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Kenubelizeit
8/12/2017 19:39 EST

So Allan what is it that you liked about Belize since we know what you didn't like and what brought to our country in the first place please don't tell us the weather nor the beer.

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csarnavka
10/20/2017 15:59 EST

Please contact me if you want to work in Belize you can do so through creating a business. Most foreigners do that. I am Canadian and have a development I am working on in Corozal. There will be lots of opportunities for people there. cheryl@therealtyden.com
Cheryl

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bradinbelize
10/21/2017 13:36 EST

SUZIE,

I not telling you this from someone that hates Belize, someone that lived here ten years ago or someone that doesn't even live here. I have lived in Belize for three years now, opened a business, now in the process of opening my second one and going through permitting, etc.

I have a work permit and two corporations, own a home and have done everything myself, no broker or "facilitator" as they are called.

It can be done, you need to be diligent and constantly pushing everything forward. Belize paperwork is "endless", time consuming and constantly changing - 2 years is like 20 in the Us or Canada (everything could have changed by then).

Getting a "job" is almost non-existent unless you can get a real estate job (being an experienced real estate agent in the US or Canada would help) or some type of specialty management position which you would need some experience and then find the right place (which are minimal to non-existent) that needs your particular skill set and can't really find it in a Belizean.

Your other option is to start your own business (thus getting a work permit, starting a corporation and finding a lease or buying a building, your equipment, get all permits, etc.). Doing all of this takes time and money, persistence and patience. The other option is to buy an existing business.

I am opening businesses, selling some business and doing some business brokering for some business owners so I am happy to help in this area is you are interested, and if you just want to talk about options (everyone's situation is different and you might want to go QRP or something), I am available to chat (no charge or fee expected) to help you any way I can.

If I found you a business or helped you to start one, then there is a fee, but I am always happy to share info with people and try to lighten there load, as I did everything myself and it took a long time and working an equivalent to a full-time job to figure it all out (even after reading on the internet for a year before I came here_ . Belize is really a "foot on the ground" place and anything you read on the internet is either wrong, has changed or is outdated, as things are in constant flux here.

Best to you!

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bobbyveee
10/21/2017 13:47 EST

Your spot on Brad , especially your last paragraph, Belize changes almost daily and keeping abreast of it all is a full time occupation, as Brad will attest to.

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5allan1
10/22/2017 07:26 EST

The problem for many businesses in Belize is that the entire country has the buying power of only a small city of 30,000 or so in the U.S. or Canada, and there's not much disposable income for anything beyond the basics.
The things that make the most money are alcohol and women. There is a huge market here and it is common for most of the men, not all, to spend their money having a few drinks before heading home to provide for the family, usually at a Cool Spot ( brothel).
I can tell you that if you had a degree in psychology or a certificate in life coaching, it would be gold treating the eccentric expat population.
Perhaps birding tours, butterfly breeding, and lizard exporting. Big money in all three.
Or you could re open the Rose Garden in Ladyville
Maybe a jungle survival school.
A Belize dating/marriage arranger service that connects gringos and other expats to Belize babes for that quick passport.
Belize remains a poor underdeveloped country not because there is some conspiracy of foreign neo-colonialists screwing Belizeans - the locals pretty competently keep their own people down - just as long as they and their cousins and their buddies get a little taste of the action for themselves everything's all well.
Bienvenidos a Belice!

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katzgar
10/22/2017 10:20 EST

The average monthly income is about $900.00 USD. There is litlle disposable income in numbers like that. Expats moving to Belize are most always on a very tight budget. Retail opportunities in Belize are very limited. Other job opportunities are likewise difficult. You may google Belize salaries.

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CayeCaulker4Me
10/23/2017 00:57 EST

By All Means, Do Listen to Brad!

We did and he helped us immensely in our decision, and eventual, move to Caye Caulker. His advice and input were invaluable, spot on, up to date and included the "negative" things you NEED to know (not a bunch of personalized mumbo jumbo and insignificant and unproven percentages, etc), that actually will have an impact on your decision and life in Belize, should you make the move.

And he is truthful about his "no charge for advice" statement. We had an hour long phone call with him initially, and have had 2-3 shorter ones since, not to mention the numerous emails and text messages for follow-up questions. He is a relevant, current, generous, friendly, intelligent, honest, no agenda and easy going guy just looking to help out a friend he hasn't met yet!

So YES, by all means, PM BradInBelize and inquire how you can connect directly, even if you are just considering the idea of moving to Belize for retirement, or just to get away from the "first world BS".

So NO, do not read or consider anything posted by The NEGATIVE TWINS -Frik (5Allan1) and -Frac (Katzgar)...they are just a couple of disgruntled old chaps that like to troll and hear themselves tap away at the computer,,,usually the same ole, same ole crap that really doesn't matter, or that you are already aware of and have still made the decision to pursue this move...much ado about absolutely nothing from these two!

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5allan1
10/23/2017 06:29 EST

Attn Newbies:
If u look closely at cc4m content you will notice a pattern of defensive posturing. If you fail to consider what I and others say about the dark side of Belize relocation then a balanced decision is not possible. Belizers will only say Belize is not for everyone but rarely say who its for or not for. Its not rocket science to conclude that if u have a business that depends on tourism or expat relocation for income you will downplay the negative or dismiss it entirely.
For example its well known that Belize is currently the 3rd most violent country earth but Belizers tell u its largely restricted to south Belize City. Dont go there and flash gang signs. But Cayo district is now a close second and Corozal is catching up. Armed robbery however is now a national pastime- every day.
If u r on a budget and so I say Belize is the most expensive country in the region, then Belizers will tell u to eat and buy local. Doing that means tacos for breakfast, rice and beans for lunch and Chiney fry chicken for dinner-every day, washed down with Belikin beer every day. Folks like cc4m prefer koolaid ;)
If I say Belize has the most expensive electrcity in the region ( when its isnt shut down) they tell u not to use AC. In a country that has endless days of 90F temps with 85% rh thats just not feasible.
And so on..

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katzgar
10/23/2017 08:24 EST

Do we have any idea how much commission Brad is paying CC4me for his sales pitch

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terrific
10/23/2017 11:17 EST

Probably brad gives the same amount of commission that Allan receives from
Mexico for advertising that country over Belize at every opportunity.

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CayeCaulker4Me
10/23/2017 12:02 EST

Actually, I receive 5 x the combined value of 5allan1 & katzgar's posts on here....

Zippo, Nada, Nothing, ZERO!!!

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katzgar
10/23/2017 12:30 EST

Given that this website bases its income on expat related advertising and Brad obviously doesn't contribute to them but just tries to ride on their back ethics certainly is an issue

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CayeCaulker4Me
10/23/2017 12:53 EST

"Given that this website bases its income on expat related advertising and Brad obviously doesn't contribute to them but just tries to ride on their back ethics certainly is an issue."

Maybe for some crumudgingly, old codgers with nothing better to do with their time than troll numerous Belize blogs and post mundane comments incessantly, but not for the people who come to those blogs for the express purpose of their existence.

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Kenubelizeit
10/28/2017 10:14 EST

So if you all the negatives along with Bobby Eve then start posting some positives because there was something that brought you to this place and for sure it was good while it lasted especially the contraband runs and even working at the local hospital c'mon bro accentuate the positive. We know about the negatives repeated over and over and btw you exagerraring about sand flies in the south why because I live there now. Plus I am riding abuse with free WiFi and AC how about that for 3rd world.

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bobbyveee
10/28/2017 11:15 EST

To Ken and a few others, take some time to read a letter from a very well todo Belizean patriot in todays Amandala newspaper, it makes for sober reading.

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bradinbelize
11/21/2017 09:55 EST

KATZGAR. I am not riding on anyone's backs because I'm not charging money to anyone. I'm offering free help and advice (unlike many others that just offer complaints and negativity).

It seems to be a rare thing here to be positive and actually want to help others and make it easier for their transitions than it was for yourself because only negative and complaining was available to you (you can guess several sources of what I'm talking about as they are obvious).

How about using this forum for what it is intended for - to help and offer solid, real advice instead of complaining, bad mouthing and name calling. So many miserable people on here it's ridiculous (and they don't figure out THEY are the ones making their own lives miserable - so keep your misery to yourself please and don't share the negativity with everyone else (except maybe Alan - he seems to enjoy that too)

I have sent this to you as a PM as well so I can make sure you actually get it.

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bradinbelize
11/21/2017 09:55 EST

KATZGAR. I am not riding on anyone's backs because I'm not charging money to anyone. I'm offering free help and advice (unlike many others that just offer complaints and negativity).

It seems to be a rare thing here to be positive and actually want to help others and make it easier for their transitions than it was for yourself because only negative and complaining was available to you (you can guess several sources of what I'm talking about as they are obvious).

How about using this forum for what it is intended for - to help and offer solid, real advice instead of complaining, bad mouthing and name calling. So many miserable people on here it's ridiculous (and they don't figure out THEY are the ones making their own lives miserable - so keep your misery to yourself please and don't share the negativity with everyone else (except maybe Alan - he seems to enjoy that too)

I have sent this to you as a PM as well so I can make sure you actually get it.

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katzgar
11/21/2017 10:37 EST

I have no rational way to gauge your true intentions so can only advise caution to new comers. When a huge number of expats return back north I figure they are operating on bad information when they decide to move to Belize. Information about Belize is neither positive nor negative it just is. Calling people out is not helpful, your best bet is to prove something said is incorrect. No one to date has shown anything I have said to be incorrect.

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bradinbelize
11/23/2017 10:33 EST

except KATZGAR that you are making false statements about me! You don't know me, we have never met and we have never done business together, so what makes you think you can pass judgement on me or my intentions?

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csarnavka
11/23/2017 10:58 EST

Hi please email me at cheryl@therealtyden.com - I have a complete write up and guide for moving to Belize. Where is the best choice as well as our development package for the 6-7000 community we are building in Corozal. I'm from Canada but working with a team of partner from Canada and the US to develop in Belize.

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terrific
11/23/2017 17:22 EST

Ktzgar Well Brad kinda does show at least one of your statements is incorrect as you have several times suggested he only posts here for financial advantage. which he has never to my knowledge put up a comercial post. You have previously claimed I want to SELL something by posting and that I am insome way looking to profit from my postings. This is also incorrect so while no one would dream of claiming your internet links are incorrect some of your personal opinions of other posters stated as seeming facts are not always.

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CayeCaulker4Me
11/23/2017 18:01 EST

He can't help it. He's Doc Al's mini-me.

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terrific
11/23/2017 21:20 EST

To cc4m I have never seen it on this site if katzgar is a man or woman there is no information in the profile so I tend to think of the poster as "she". I have a gender nuetral screen name, so I have it on my profile what my gender is. There is no compulsion to add any information to a profile I just find a little basic info helps.
DrAl I know is male. He has the saving grace of an occaisional post that actually is helpful and he used to post a lot of humorous stuff. Much as we spar on here I think I would probably enjoy his company.

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katzgar
11/26/2017 07:58 EST

The situation is really simple folks. You dont trust people until you vet them.

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terrific
11/27/2017 00:52 EST

so do you mean those who give no info to vet should be viewed with suspicion then?

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katzgar
11/27/2017 08:38 EST

"so do you mean those who give no info to vet should be viewed with suspicion then?"

only if they are trying to take your money. Your post is a juvenile attempt at juvenileness.

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