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barrianne
1/28/2008 17:15 EST

I am an American looking to move to Bahia (Cabralia, north of Porto Seguro). My mother (American) is retired there. I am not yet near retirement but could invest in property or possibly a business. I have read about the $50,000 investment required for this visa, but I need more information.

I called the consulate here in New York, and they said they could not tell me anything at all about this and it all had to be handled in Brazil. I would have to hire a lawyer there in order to arrange things with the Banco Central. My mom is there already so that is not unmanageable, but I would like to find out what can be done here. I do intend to get my CPF when I go to Brazil in June.

I have read that this visa is fairly straightforward. Can anybody give me advice on how to go about finding out the real deal and what's the smartest way to go about this? I'm not looking to open a huge business or make a profit -- I don't have that sort of funds. I just want to live there and this sounds like a reasonable opportunity.

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Orlandoneto

From: Brazil
2/29/2008 09:36 EST

Dear Anne,

The process is straightforward, although it will take some time to go through all steps.
For more information on how it works, you can take a look at my website (www.silvaneto.com.br), look at the 'investing in Brazil' page, where I believe you will find some relevant data.

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barrianne
2/29/2008 10:45 EST

Muito obrigada!

Pergunta: voce tem essa pagina "natural persons" escrito em portugues? Gostaria de mostrar aos amigos no Brasil.

Do you have the "natural persons" page written in Portuguese so I can send to some friends in Brazil? A lot of good information there.

Atenciosamente,

Barri Brown

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tfong
3/6/2008 19:33 EST

Hi Barrianne!

We work with Foregneirs integration here in Brazil, focused on Real Estate and investment consulting - with an archictecture, legal & support system. What charge are you talking about the B2, tourist??? This charge is high and has no specifications of intent - where have uread it? The CPF you are talking about is not a visa, but a registration of phisical person who has any possession or value in our country - and their backgroung honesty, therefore not a visa and such charge is not pertinent. If you'd like write to my private email karlinha247@hotmail.com or add to my msn and we can talk about further details of your coming to Brazil plans.

You have made a perfect life choice - Brazil has the beat appeal of life. Good luck. Hope talking to you soon! Welcome to land of the tropics!!!!

Karla Oshiro
(5511) 87729076

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MichaelO
9/1/2008 15:16 EST

Hi Barrianne,

Obtaining an investor visa is relatively straightforward, but practically all non-tourist type visas are involve a lot of paperwork and waiting no matter the country. You will probably receive investors residency two years after starting the process.

This is the process in a nutshell.

Start with a CPF. I'm almost certain you could obtain this without having to come to Brazil since there is no signature or photograph involved. Use the address of your mother on the application.

Next you need to hire a lawyer and/or accountant to open a limited company stating you as a shareholder, what the business of the company will be, what will be the capital (a minimum of 50K US to obtain investor's residency), and who will be the administrator. The administrator must be Brazilian or have permanent residency and, until you get your residency, will have almost total authority over the business of the company. Good thing you have your mother to do this since there are stories out there of investors burned by administrators.

Anyway, once the business is set up and has a CNPJ (business number) and a bank account, which usually takes 6 - 9 months, you are ready to capitalize the company. The money is wired into the bank account of the company and is registered through the central bank of Brazil as being a direct foreign investment in a Brazilian company.

Next the proof of all this is sent to Brasilia which will lead to a file being created in your name and sent to your local Brazilian consulate or embassy. From this point you show up at the embassy with the appropriate forms filled in and passport photos , they will give you a permanent visa which you must use within 90 days of your file arriving at the embassy.

Finally, you are now in Brazil, you have to go to the federal police and open a process to obtain residency. After that, you wait - probably another 9 months or so.

Despite the level of detail in this response, I am not a professional in this field although I have helped clients hire the professionals they need to get all this done. It will end up costing you about $5,000 reais - if you are married, double that since it is per person.

Basically, you need lawyer, accountant, foreign exchange broker registered with the central bank of brazil, and someone who does the visa side of things. We used Ricardo Cohen at www.brasilvisas.com.br and would absolutely recommend him (I don't know how his English is though).

Hope this helps,

Michael Oliphant
www.icileparadis.com
info@icileparadis.com

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