oespanhol
7/26/2012 13:35 EST
There is an old saying, "People get the government they deserve" maeaning if the people do not do anything to fight for a good government, they will not have it...Former French President DeGaulle said about Brazil "Brazil has a great potential and will stay that way for many years to come" meaning the system will not change there for a long time due to the people's acceptance of the incredibly corrupt status quo and lack the will to fight against it.
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julietjuliet12
7/26/2012 16:56 EST
Hello Ó espanhol,
I think you need a little more information to criticize Brazilian people.
Brazil 507 years of existence, 185 years of independence and 118 years of republic.
I say “study the history, not only Brazilian history but all American history, form Mexico down.
I can give you very good names of authors and books that you can learn why we are in this way.
This way is not without reason
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julietjuliet12
7/26/2012 16:57 EST
Hello Ó espanhol,
I think you need a little more information to criticize Brazilian people.
Brazil 507 years of existence, 185 years of independence and 118 years of republic.
I say “study the history, not only Brazilian history but all American history, form Mexico down.
I can give you very good names of authors and books that you can learn why we are in this way.
This way is not without reason
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espanol
7/26/2012 17:37 EST
My wife, a brazilian lawyer, and our son are native born brazilians....My wife and I have traveled to 14 cities all over brazil...we have seen the same do-nothing-atitude thing except in the south where the people are true rebels( I used to think the gauchos were too chauvinstic but must apoligize to them because they are just fed up with the feudalistic system in brazil).....I have met many brazilians emigres abroad who attest to this also.....Your tax system is confiscatory and absurd .I do not want to go tit for tat in this matter but as the saying goes, if the shoe fits, wear it.....As far as mexico goes, it has had many revolutions and is still the victim of blatant imperialism from the USA....They have at least fought...It is so ludricous to see so many police in brazil especially the militares when Brazil has never had a war....And despite Brazil having a huge arms industry in league with the french, Brazil would probably lose in a war with even paraguay or bolivia...Finally, I do not like to say these things but facts are facts....
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NewCarioca
7/27/2012 13:48 EST
Hello espanol.
Please make a cohesive point. What are you trying to say? Should we start a war? Overthrow the Government? What are the policies that you disagree and why? And please do not say that “things are facts” when you use the word “probably” together. Are you saying they are probably facts? Umm, I am not sure you know what you are talking about.
Here are some facts for you.
The Brazilian military play an active role in the Amazon helping local government to enforce preservation of our forest, fauna, fight diseases and defend the borders. They also joined the United Nation peacekeeping forces in five countries.
The Brazilian military, especially the army, has become involved in civic-action programs, education, health care, and constructing roads, bridges, and railroads across the nation.
Also, The French military is number eight in the world, Brazilian Military is number 11. They are hardly the same size. Don’t you agree? The French spends 57 Billion on their military near 3% of their GDP. Brazil spends 28 Billions about 1.5% of their GDP.
The Brazilian government is working very hard trying to equalize their impoverished classes. Brazilians are hardworking and very patient people which I believe are virtues. Poverty (PPP US$2 per day) has fallen from 21% of the population in 2003 to 11% in 2009. Extreme poverty (PPP US$1.25 per day) also dropped, from 10% in 2004 to 2.2% in 2009. Between 2001 and 2009, the income growth rate of the poorest 10% of the population was 7% per year, while that of the richest 10% was 1.7%. This helped decrease income inequality (measured by the Gini index) to reach a 50-year low of 0.519 in 2011. Key drivers of this have been low inflation, consistent economic growth, well-focused social programs, and a policy of real increases for the minimum wage.
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NewCarioca
7/27/2012 13:49 EST
Hello espanol.
Please make a cohesive point. What are you trying to say? Should we start a war? Overthrow the Government? What are the policies that you disagree and why? And please do not say that “things are facts” when you use the word “probably” together. Are you saying they are probably facts? Umm, I am not sure you know what you are talking about.
Here are some facts for you.
The Brazilian military play an active role in the Amazon helping local government to enforce preservation of our forest, fauna, fight diseases and defend the borders. They also joined the United Nation peacekeeping forces in five countries.
The Brazilian military, especially the army, has become involved in civic-action programs, education, health care, and constructing roads, bridges, and railroads across the nation.
Also, The French military is number eight in the world, Brazilian Military is number 11. They are hardly the same size. Don’t you agree? The French spends 57 Billion on their military near 3% of their GDP. Brazil spends 28 Billions about 1.5% of their GDP.
The Brazilian government is working very hard trying to equalize their impoverished classes. Brazilians are hardworking and very patient people which I believe are virtues. Poverty (PPP US$2 per day) has fallen from 21% of the population in 2003 to 11% in 2009. Extreme poverty (PPP US$1.25 per day) also dropped, from 10% in 2004 to 2.2% in 2009. Between 2001 and 2009, the income growth rate of the poorest 10% of the population was 7% per year, while that of the richest 10% was 1.7%. This helped decrease income inequality (measured by the Gini index) to reach a 50-year low of 0.519 in 2011. Key drivers of this have been low inflation, consistent economic growth, well-focused social programs, and a policy of real increases for the minimum wage.
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espanol
7/27/2012 14:03 EST
If you believe the government (and academic) stats, then go right ahead (Benjamin Disraeli ,certainly not one of my historical heroes, used to say " You show me your statistics and I will show mine)....I read recently that Brazil has a better credit rating than Germany but so what?....Also Brazil exports oiI but I see none of this money trickling down.... I prefer to find out facts myself and have seen numerous times not only in Brazil that the official sources and media are not to be believed.....Finally, as far as Brazil in a war I would hope not (and sure would not bet on its chances of succeeding) but a revolution maybe.
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Etelena
7/27/2012 14:14 EST
ESPANOL after what NEWCARIOCA said you should be quiet forever. Beside if in your opinion, Brazil the country which you living, and accept you as you are (immigrant) is not good enough to you, Do me a favor and <>
Nice information NewCarioca. Very nice input ;)
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Etelena
7/27/2012 14:16 EST
ESPANOL after what NEWCARIOCA said you should be quiet forever. Beside if in your opinion, Brazil the country which you living, and accept you as you are (immigrant) is not good enough to you, Do me a favor and............................... GET IT OUT FROM BRAZIL ASAP!!! WE DO NOT NEED YOU
Nice information NewCarioca. Very nice input ;)
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Etelena
7/27/2012 15:51 EST
ESPANOL
All countries have the good things and bad ones. One time you are foreigner living in Brazil, and can't see the good things that Brazil have to offer you. I strong recommend you to pack your crap and comeback to the hole where you are come from. And from your crap country you can say whatever you want to. As I said before we Brazilian and Brazil do not need you.
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Etelena
7/27/2012 16:01 EST
Espanol,
Why you don't go back to your crap country where you come from and starting the revolution there??! I believe that if you come from other country to be a foreigner in Brazil is because you were eat CRAP in your own country big time. So, it is stupid from your side to talk bad things toward the country that treat you as a human-being. If you do not like Brazil how it is, come back to eat CRAP in your country S.O.B.
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Neen50
7/31/2012 13:36 EST
Sadly the Brazilian government like so many others if given the chance will take advantage.There are very poorly educated Brazilians due to the fact that if properly educated would be a force to be reckoned,Brazilians are generally friendly and just happy with what they have doesnt seem to have any drive to better themselves generally speaking.There are only but a few of us that are blessed to not only have but to take the opportunity to have an education in order to protect ourselves and live a safe lifestyle.
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