Ashco
11/30/2012 21:01 EST
I am interested in any insight for authentic (credible / no scam) online listings of cars for sale in Brazil (or is this my next entrepreneurial opportunity?). We live in Maringa and will be full time in Brazil in December. After reading the recent Forbes article on auto purchasing craziness in Brazil, I am daunted. (Search: Brazil Grand Cherokee Ridiculous) to read the sotry. If there is an expat on the way out with a good car, please let me know (we have two children so needs to be able to accomodate).
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spacentre
12/13/2012 05:07 EST
Cars are indeed expensive in Brazil, there are two types really, locally made and imported. The latter, just like the Jeep are quite a bit more expensive, so for just a normal family car best to buy local made. Fiat, VW, Ford and Chevy all make locally, although they are completely different to what you normally would expect, you can still buy a new car in Brazil with wind up windows, no power steering etc etc. Until you know what you are doing, best to buy from a dealer. You will have to pay for the transfer of ownership and you need to be sure there are no fines attached to the car as they stay with the car not the previous owner like here in UK, so it's possible to buy a car, own it and then find out it has thousands of reais in fines to pay and you will have to pay them. I ended up with a Ford Ecosport, three years old, 1.6 flex engine, so far so good., I paid about R$35000 for it. Hope this helps.
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treisand
12/13/2012 08:48 EST
Actually there is no such thing like "Brazilian cars are different"... They're different according to what you can PAY. If you can pay less than 30k reais (15k dollars), so you won't have a nice car. If you can pay more than that, almost every car above that value have all items that Europeans and Americans cars have.
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spacentre
12/13/2012 10:56 EST
I beg to differ, there are for starters Brazilian models not available in Europe and USA, like Ecosport & Crossfox etc. There is also a massive difference between Brazilian basic and Euro or US basic, our most basic cars have power steering, electric windows, ABS, airbags etc etc,. It is for example very difficult here in UK to buy a 5-10 year old car that does not have all of these features, it is not the same in Brazil. It is changing, but very slowly and still staying well behind Euro and US cars, I do not know the reason for this, but Brazilian car manufacturers must make a lot of money. Also here in Europe Diesel cars are very very commonplace, in Brazil there are none, you need a pick up minimum to get a Diesel, which is amazing as your Diesel fuel is much cheaper than your Alcohol and Petrol. Other brazilian difference is we do not have 'flex' cars like you do. Not to mention that your cars are much more expensive than ours even with the exchange rate difference, let alone if you are earning in Brazilian Reais. Brazil is a magnificent place, but a few leaps towards the 21st century in some aspects would be great.
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cormorant
12/17/2012 21:01 EST
I would avoid car ownership here. New cars are prohibitively expensive, as others have said, you should only buy a second hand vehicle from friends or family as there are too many dodgy deals out there.
Most Brazilian cities have reasonable, and cheap public transport. Best to manage without a car if you can, it's not so difficult to do so here really.
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