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Jamaicanbritish
  1/31/2016 20:28 EST

I am interested in moving to Brazil and possibly setting up business in the near future,I am qualified corgi gas engineer and plumber in UK. I am wondering what city's would be accepting of me.I am a black male and have heard there are many prejuices in Brazil. Can some one help me out and steer me in the right direction.thanks

dannyofphilly
  1/31/2016 21:01 EST

For some people.... they seem to find prejudices everywhere... if you know what I mean. If you're simply interested in skin color... I'd recommend Salvador. in Bahia. I hear it's very afro-centric. The south of Brazil is very German, Italian, Portuguese so very euro-centric. So you may stick out there (simply going on skin color). I don't know if they have strong prejudices, but from what I understand it is mostly people of European descent. The main melting pots are obviously Sao Paulo & Rio. Another option, I'm not really sure of the demographics, but Recife seemed very mixed... but it's a pretty poor city, so they may be prejudiced, not sure. If you're a nice person, probably you'll be accepted anywhere, but I'd say as a rule of thumb, the further south you go after Sao Paulo, the more white it will get. And the further north you go above Rio, the opposite is true. Manaus is also a nice city, very mixed, but pretty isolated.

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Marlington
  2/1/2016 07:01 EST

Hello!
Please call me on Skype: marlington ([email protected]). I have lived in many places in Brazil and may be able to help. It is not the skin colour that matters. It is your expertise and your knowledge of Portuguese that will do the trick. The difficulty to get a permanent residence visa must also be considered.
Thanks.
Bye for now,
Margaret Arlington
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exnyer
  2/2/2016 16:43 EST

Brasil is very about who you know. Please don't get trapped into a waste of time like race. I will try to ask you relevant questions:

Do you speak Portuguese ?
Have you visited Brasil EXTENSIVELY?

Do you have means to support yourself independant of Brasil?

Do you know anyone here you can REALLY TRUST ?

Brasil is not the same as the USA or the UK when it comes to business, you will get taken advantage of and it will be on you.

Just go online now and do some research. Forget the bikinis, surf and sun. This is your life.

PS: others may try to make this a referendum on race. do not fall for it.

dannyofphilly
  2/2/2016 17:08 EST

I completely agree with Exnyer. If you come in with an attitude that people will be prejudiced against you...you're going to see prejudice where it doesn't exist. All of his questions are far more relevant, as well as how you treat other people. Good luck!

studio54
  2/2/2016 17:45 EST

I think you need to go to Brazil first, that would make sense. Then you will have a better picture, it's not all about the beach and the beautiful women.. The government would like to know what skill can you give to their country also do you speak the language. You are going to find prejudice everywhere you go. Remember Brazil is not like England or America when it comes to race relations.

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sohelsaheen
  2/4/2016 03:42 EST

From my experiences for a black man Brazil will be a big challange. The racism does exist in each and every part of Brazil specially in the southern Brazil. The reality is that Brazil is totally controlled by the white European origin people and the mentality, level of education, cultural values etc etc are not equivalent with that of European standard. I have no idea about North America as I was never there.But I will be open from my experiences in Brazil that African origin people will face sufferings for their racial identity.So if you wish you can take this challange . Besides this Brazilian immigration law is much more complicated than the European and as I can imagine only option is open to get married or seeking political asylum and then to have a good life it needs to bring money from own resources to do some business activities. I am afraid there is no other choices there.

symbolica
  2/4/2016 19:42 EST

My name is olasumbo am from Nigeria..sir I meet this Brazilian woman online and we fall in love with each other so she want to send me invitation letter in order for me come to Brazil so that we can marry and I want to know if the embassy will give me work permit with the visa and what are the document I will take along with me with the letter to embassy please advice

symbolica
  2/4/2016 19:43 EST

My name is olasumbo am from Nigeria..sir I meet this Brazilian woman online and we fall in love with each other so she want to send me invitation letter in order for me come to Brazil so that we can marry and I want to know if the embassy will give me work permit with the visa and what are the document I will take along with me with the letter to embassy please advice

sohelsaheen
  2/5/2016 05:43 EST

From my experience I can say that if a foreign citizen is married with a Brazilian then things are easy in terms of bureaucratic affairs like visa(entry), then residence permit, work permit etc etc. The authority will check if the marriage is real or fake and for the permanent residence permit it will need the continuation of marriage (no separation or divorce) and no complain from the Brazilian partner . But it will depends on the local Brazilian consulate to issue the entry visa in a case when some one want to get married inside Brazil and will require documents like" not married" certificate from the authority of the country of origin with the attestation of the local Brazilian consulate office etc. So a lots of bureaucracy but possible. It is better for your case to get married inside Nigeria and then apply for the residence visa . In any case one must communicate with the local Brazilian consulate office for all these procedures .

exnyer
  2/5/2016 09:50 EST

Please note that symbolica has posted his request as a serarate issue as it should be. Currently his question is posted under the title
symbolica. Please post your good advice there.

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symbolica
  2/6/2016 04:13 EST

Thank you all but want I don't understand is that with the invitation letter will I be giving visa to enter Brazil and also will I get a job when getting to Brazil cause me and my woman want marry and stay happy but am a Nigeria and she's Brazilian I need clear advice please

Marlington
  2/6/2016 10:10 EST

Hello!

You must make an appointment with the Brazilian Consulate in your region and they will tell you everything you need to know. Take a list of all your questions with you and do not leave until you are satisfied that they have given you all the details you need and that you have understood everything. This is their job. Make them work!

Good luck!
Margaret Arlington
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from the minute you set foot in Florianopolis

Multilingual Services
Translation & Interpreting
International Communication
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Santa Catarina – Brazil

Landline: +55 48 3234 7848
Mobile: +55 48 9957 9982 (TIM)
Mobile: + 55 48 8844 2169 (Claro)

[email protected]
Skype & ooVoo: marlington

exnyer
  2/6/2016 12:17 EST

You should buy a ticket (Round trip). Come to Brasil and stay a few months. Unless you are rich-you will need a job. Look for one. take the time to know your friend. DO NOT IN ANY WAY BUY ANYTHING OR SPEND/LOAN ANY MORE MONEY THAN IS NEEDED.

Sorry if you wanted to read that life is all roses and candy, but you would not be the first man to post how his life was ruined by "love" in Brasil.

aaronbennis
  2/14/2016 12:07 EST

You will deal with the NegroPhobia phenomenon, everywhere on this planet. Brazil is no worse than any other country, in that regard. In fact, Brazil is much better than most, probably due to the huge black population of Brazil. Salvador has the largest population of blacks, and also has the highest overall, per capita street-crime rate. It is not easy to meet local people in Brazil. Brazilians are polite, but generally very paranoid, and unfriendly. Brazil is also the most expensive country in SA to live. If you do not already have Brazilian friends, prior to traveling to Brazil. then itd best that visit first, as a tourist, stay @ the youth hostels, if you want to meet other travelers, for experience sharing, and to become acquainted with the local Brazil hostel staff, as a first point of contact. Hope this helps, and good luck.

studio54
  2/15/2016 12:38 EST

Hello, i disagree with you on this one, i think Brazilians are very friendly. I have had no problem and they go out of their way to help you. Salvador may have the largest black population, but there is racism, yes there is racism everywhere. But brazil is the worse. I am sorry to say, Maybe they were the last country to abolish slavery.

aaronbennis
  2/28/2016 07:56 EST

Obviously, you are not a black person. Brazil is no better, or worse than another First World infrastructured nation.

As a black man, I would opt for points south of Sao Paulo, where the street-crime rate is considerably lower, for the same obvious reasons. Regardless, if you already have some "real" trustworthy "carioca"-type friends in Brazil, then that's half the battle won. If not, then you'll need to have some seriously "deep" pockets, to get yourself thru the first 90-days, while attempting to make some local friends. In any event, keep your wits about yourself, and your surroundings. Brazilians, more so than New Yorkers, will eat you for lunch, if you do not proceed with extreme caution. Best to attempt to make friends thru people, of whom you'll have some form of business, relationship with, e.g., a waitress in a restaurant, or a hotel desk-clerk, or a cashier at the Walmart Super Center, for examples. Capiche? Good luck.

aaronbennis
  2/28/2016 08:10 EST

Plus, don't worry about not speaking Portuguese. There are far more Brazilians who speak/understand English, than they are willing to admit, especially when it is within their own interests.

Any Brazilian woman who is "sincerely" intersted in you, will jump hurdles to communicate with you.

Brazilian women are quite jaded, and DO NOT trust Brazilian menfolk.
As a foreigner, however, you just may be lucky enough to be given the benefit of the doubt. If that happens, don't screw it up! Again, good luck.

aaronbennis
  2/28/2016 08:46 EST

I previously reply posted incorrectly.

As a black man, I would opt for points south of Sao Paulo, where the street-crime rate is considerably lower, for the same obvious reasons. Regardless, if you already have some "real" trustworthy "carioca"-type friends in Brazil, then that's half the battle won. If not, then you'll need to have some seriously "deep" pockets, to get yourself thru the first 90-days, while attempting to make some local friends. In any event, keep your wits about yourself, and your surroundings.
Brazilians, more so than New Yorkers, will eat you for lunch, if you do not proceed with extreme caution. Best to attempt to make friends thru people, of whom you'll have some form of business, relationship with, e.g., a waitress in a restaurant, or a hotel desk-clerk, or a cashier at the Walmart Super Center, for examples.
Plus, don't worry about not speaking Portuguese. There are far more Brazilians who speak, and understand English, than they are willing to admit, especially when it is within their own interests to communicate cross-culturally. thus, any Brazilian woman, who is "sincerely" interested in you, will jump hurdles to communicate with you, without hesitation.

Brazilian women are quite jaded, and DO NOT trust Brazilian menfolk.

As a foreigner, however, you just may be lucky enough to be given the benefit of the doubt. If that happens, don't screw it up! Capiche?

Personally, I'd stick with the more brown-skinned, mixed Brazilian women. They seem to be the most "street-savvy" Brazilian women, over-all. Good luck.

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