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Staying in São Paulo after my 90 days

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Rbri
3/27/2016 18:10 EST

greetings!
I have a French/Eu passport and I have just learned that I cannot extend my stay past 90 days. What are the consequences, if I decide to stay past my 90 days.

I had an assumption that all countries can extend another 90 days. grrrr

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Adrnalnrsh
3/30/2016 12:45 EST

How did you find out you can't extend? I've only heard rumors that Brazil is not extending past 90 days but generally you can stay maximum to 180 days if allowed to extend.

There's a price per day in R$ that you have to pay up to some maximum amount which can pay on the way out of Brazil or if and when you decide to return.

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Rbri
3/30/2016 12:49 EST

I went to the Lapa federal police and they advised me that because I have a French Passport I am welcome to come for 90 days with no required visa, but have to leave. I never heard of this before and through all of my research I would have made better decisions, had I know this information.

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Adrnalnrsh
3/30/2016 12:54 EST

I got this from this site which is two years old http://braziliangringo.com/tourist-visa-brazil/#Overstaying_a_Brazilian_Tourist_Visa

So I can't guarantee its outdated. There's plenty of information about this in a lot of expat sites, lonelyplanet etc.

"Once you’ve overstayed your tourist visa you will be subject to a fine of R$8.28 per day that you overstay, with the maximum fine being R$828. Whether you overstay 100 days or 10 years the fine is the same."

Again you can pay this on the way out as they'll stamp your passport for this amount and if you return you'll be forced to pay it upon returning.

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Adrnalnrsh
3/30/2016 12:55 EST

meant to say

Again you can pay this on the way out or they'll stamp your passport for this amount and if you return you'll be forced to pay it upon returning.

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Rbri
3/30/2016 12:58 EST

Oh great! this is great news. thank you so much for your help.

Can I pay my penalty at lapa prior to leaving so I can just deal with the drama prior to flying? I don't want to miss my flight and these things can get consuming.

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Adrnalnrsh
3/30/2016 13:04 EST

I think you pay it at the airport upon leaving. (Not sure I'd trust paying it before then)

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Adrnalnrsh
3/30/2016 13:06 EST

also, if found passed your allowed time frame, you could be asked to leave with in a small timeframe.

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Rbri
3/30/2016 13:09 EST

totally understandable.
I can't thank you enough for your time. This is very new to me and not on any site, nor post.

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Adrnalnrsh
3/30/2016 13:10 EST

really I found this on a few expat sites

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Adrnalnrsh
3/30/2016 13:58 EST

after reading more of that site, it appears you pay at a Banco do Brasil.

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Rbri
3/30/2016 15:02 EST

I knew about paying a fee for overstaying your welcome. I didn't know that French passports aren't welcome to extend after 90 days. I too am getting mixed information. One person just told me that I can go to lapa and paying my penalty 3 days before departure. It's so grey :)

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Adrnalnrsh
3/30/2016 15:07 EST

Right but I also read a story where they won't accept cash and make you go to a bank.

Its not just French passports, its also happening with US

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Marlington
3/30/2016 15:48 EST

Hello, Rbri

Just go to the Federal Police and ask them straight. Be sure to do what is right not to ruin the possibility of coming back to Brazil in future.

Getting information from expat websites is not the right thing to do for this sort of situation. It may be good as a mere guide regarding other stuff, especially in a country where rules change every day. Always ask the authority in charge such as the Federal Police for info regarding visas, etc. once you are in Brazil, the Brazilian Consulate in your region to know how to go about studying or living in Brazil, the Inland Revenue for tax matters, etc.

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