Dod37
11/4/2016 18:26 EST
I am thinking of moving to Brazil to live but I am finding it hard to get a Retiral Visa seems to be too many compications and very much paperwork, having to have it verified by a Notary then you have to send it to a government office all this costs money and you still not sure you will get your visa also you have to have police checks again get them verified and they only last 3 months anyone ideas ??
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FloridaGuyinBrasil
11/4/2016 22:03 EST
Not much info Where are you coming from ? WHY do you want to live in Brasil ? Did you know Brasil is in a recession now, zero jobs. Do you need to work or can you live off your retirement ? How much ? Do you meet their income requirements ? Have you lived in BR in the past ? When ? Where ? Where do you plan to live ? IF YOU know your way around Brasil I suggest you grab all your paperwork / and have someone at home that can forward anything else you might need .... go rent an apt in the area where you want to live / month to month. Then go to the nearest Federal Police office of immigration and apply there. They really sped up the process back in 2015, got my perm visa in 3 months.
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pensadenos
11/4/2016 22:17 EST
Dod37...........I am not sure where you currently live or if you have ever been to Brazil. My intent is not to sound sarcastic, but the country you want to move to (Brazil) is perhaps one of the most difficult countries to legally move to. Brazil is famously known for his bureaucratic bumbling and if you have not done your homework then you are about to find out just how difficult it is to move and then live here. Nothing is designed to be easy and Brazilians stopped complaining decades ago about the countless cartarios (Notaries), endless applications and paperwork. Is there a particular reason why you are choosing Brazil? The hoops that you mentioned is normal in the Visa application stages and it is only the beginning of the many hoops that you will have to jump through in order to get that Visa.
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Marlington
11/5/2016 07:24 EST
Pensadenos, I'm afraid I must disagree with your comments regarding Brazil in this case. I have lived in Brazil for 40 years so I have seen a lot. Also, I am a translator and interpreter and a Lic. Real Estate Broker and I offer settling-in services to foreign companies and individuals coming to "set up camp" in this country. Therefore, I deal with situations like Dod37's all the time. Getting a retirement visa in Brazil is not difficult. It just follows procedure as in any other country...a retirement visa or any other type of permanent residency visa for that matter. If not try it in the USA or the UK to see what difficult really is. Also, please keep in mind that all cases are unique and someone's bad experience or perspective rarely applies to other people.
Dod37, I can recommend a lawyer who specialises in permanent residency visas and other foreign national matters and is a true "problem solver" in case you have one which I doubt. He speaks English and has done an excellent job every time I have referred a client to him. Also, please keep in mind that timelines differ from one city to another due to the number of applications being processes, etc. If you would like to get in touch with this lawyer, please send me a private message or an e-mail or Whatsapp message and we can take from there.
Thank you.
Bye for now, Margaret Arlington Lic. Real Estate Broker CRECI-SC 15839 Settling-in Services: everything you need for a safe, stress-free start, from the minute you set foot in Florianopolis Multilingual Services Translation & Interpreting International Communication ENGLISH – SPANISH – PORTUGUESE Florianopolis – Island of Santa Catarina Santa Catarina – Brazil Landline: +55 48 3234 7848 Mobile: +55 48 9957 9982 (TIM) (Cel. & Whatsapp) Mobile: + 55 48 8844 2169 (Claro) arlingtn@terra.com.br Skype & ooVoo: marlington
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Dod37
11/5/2016 07:28 EST
I have been to Brazil twice a year for the last four years. I am retired I also bought a house in Brazil this year, I have a registration card from federal office. But I was told that I had to get visa through. Brazilian consulate in London
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pensadenos
11/5/2016 09:43 EST
Marlington.........I've lived in Brazil for 7 years and I live in reality. Moving my container to Brazil for a 2nd time 18 month ago was another repeat of the same problems I had in 1998 when I moved here the 1st time. Bribes that had to be paid, endless paperwork that had to be filled out, getting my airline boarding pass notarized and added to the countless papers I had to have notarized and attached to the inventory list, the 3rd party middle man that one needs to "guide" you through the issues, payments to the dock company to unload my container, the 30 days Customs "parked" my container waiting to decide whether or not to inspect it and then the dock company charging me $900 USD to store my container while customs was making their decision. No, it is not the same problems that Brazilians have moving to the USA! Take your rose colored glasses off and see just how much Brazil requires of foreigners and their own citizens just to pay their bills! And of course you have a personal stake in all of this as you do business in the moving and selling of real estate.
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pensadenos
11/5/2016 09:44 EST
Marlington.........I've lived in Brazil for 7 years and I live in reality. Moving my container to Brazil for a 2nd time 18 month ago was another repeat of the same problems I had in 1998 when I moved here the 1st time. Bribes that had to be paid, endless paperwork that had to be filled out, getting my airline boarding pass notarized and added to the countless papers I had to have notarized and attached to the inventory list, the 3rd party middle man that one needs to "guide" you through the issues, payments to the dock company to unload my container, the 30 days Customs "parked" my container waiting to decide whether or not to inspect it and then the dock company charging me $900 USD to store my container while customs was making their decision. No, it is not the same problems that Brazilians have moving to the USA! Take your rose colored glasses off and see just how much Brazil requires of foreigners and their own citizens just to pay their bills! And of course you have a personal stake in all of this as you do business in the moving and selling of real estate.
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Marlington
11/5/2016 10:11 EST
As I said before, not all experiences are the same. We did 4 intercontinental moves with container and dogs in 12 years and never had to get any help or bribe anybody. I took care of everything from day 1 back in the UK and everything went smoothly. Maybe the part of Brazil where you are had something to do with all that difficulty. I am sorry to hear that you had such a hard time TWICE! When I mentioned the USA and the UK I was referring to getting a visa, not to moving stuff. Anyway, hope it goes better for you next time. Have a nice weekend! Margaret
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Dod37
11/5/2016 12:22 EST
Hello once again If I do get my visa I will not bring any furniture I will start a fresh once I get there.
I would like to bring 3 puppies with me if possible, I know that you can fly them with you with KLM and I think BA. I have my registration from Federal office as I have paid tax in Brazil at the moment, I have made many friends in Brazil since I have been going back many times,
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FloridaGuyinBrasil
11/5/2016 14:27 EST
AS well meaning as Marlington is .. you are right, she's looking for business. Blatant advertising. Shows you how bad the economy is in Brasil, that people are having to chase business everywhere.
I stand by what I said, go back to Brasil using your tourist visa and go directly to the Federal Police and apply there. THAT will be the quickest and cheapest way to go, no paying off 3rd party 'fixers'. I am curious why anyone would want to move to Brasil when the country is in the middle of a political civil war with an economy in the toilet, worst in 25 years ? But that's just me ! It can only get better I guess Where did you buy that house ? Is it in a big city or out in the country ? Hope it's in the south !
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FloridaGuyinBrasil
11/5/2016 14:35 EST
Furniture ? Are you insane ? It would cost you 3x the value of it to ship it and pay duty.
Brasil has many manufacturers of nice EVERYTHING. I would not go there with anything BUT clothes and small personal items. The rest you can buy there.
You are going to have a very difficult time moving to Brasil from what I hear of your answers You'll be back in the UK in 3 years is my guess
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Marlington
11/5/2016 16:04 EST
Dod37, have I misunderstood this whole thing? You are planning to live here because you are retired, are you not? You are planning to live here in your worry-free years, are you not? You are planning well because if you have enough money to live comfortably, many places in Brazil are ideal. The country has problems like many others but nothing that will prevent you from having a great time in your retiremente years. If you were younger and had children and depended on getting and keeping a job then, yes, I would tell you to think about it. But not in your situation. I do not know where you are heading in this country but hope it is a good, nice, safe place. Just go ahead with your plans. If, at the end of the day, you do not like it you can always go back home. A good challenge cannot hurt..... Change is good! Good luck! Margaret Arlington
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sohelsaheen
11/5/2016 16:25 EST
From my experiences in Brazil so I will say please do not go there as a first choice. I would like to repeat my request. It is really a terrible place to live in for long time duration. It is expensive and the things are not available around you as well as the security situation is really terrible.Wake up please!
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pensadenos
11/5/2016 17:12 EST
Dod37.......Marlington is right! if you are retiring in Brazil it has many wonderful places and some are actually safe. I moved to Praia de Pipa on the coast in Rio Grande do Norte and I couldn't come close to living in a place like this anywhere in the EU or the USA for what I paid for it. I do still have to hit the roof top with a rum & coke on occasion to remember why it was I moved here particularly after a tough day. I do warn you that it is not a country for old men! You must be sure of what you are doing, learn not only the language but how some things can be done. Banking is, well, a lesson in patience. Government agencies will test your resolve. And, ethics of some Brazilians and the lack of ethical business practices (not necessarily the lack of honesty) can drive you crazy! That's when you go to the roof top for a pretty sunset with drink in hand and think through why you came here.
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Dod37
11/6/2016 03:47 EST
Yes I am serious about moving to Brail, once I can obtain my visa then I will sell my house in UK, I have met many very good friends, I have bought a lovely house all done through the the legal channels, I have started to reform it, already I have paid taxes. I got my ID card this year for registration from Federal office, i tried to open a bank account but they said I had to have my visa for this,
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sohelsaheen
11/6/2016 07:42 EST
Dod37--- I will say please do not make that mistake to move to Brazil. I have a good experience about Brazil. The friends of Brazil will be NO help. They are just to "bate papo"(means gossoping). When you will need real help then you will see no body around you. Everything is costly there .Please check by youube serach: Crimes , killing in Brazil. You will e it is a hell. You must know perfectly the Brazilian history. There is a report by an international Human right agency that was published recently where said that in the last 4 years in the Syrian war 260.000 were killed but in Brazil 280.000 people were killed (in the lat 4 years). They are reclaiming that this Brazilian killings always remain unnoticed. I am sure you will say sorry sooner than later. I am afraid you have an illusion about Brazil. Anyway good luck!
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Dod37
11/11/2016 07:01 EST
Hello Margret, I tried to email you but email was returned, I tried Whats App as well, My friend said he emailed you or the lawyer but I have not heard from him for a few days.
could you please give me your email address many thanks Dod
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