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Beijing, Harbin Help Please!!

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sara7731
11/22/2009 06:47 EST

Hallo Everybody,

my husband and I are thinking about the opportunity of moving to Harbin or Beijing, as my husband has an opportunity of working there in transfer
for his company.
We are a couple of 30 years old people with a Baby and we are particularly worried for HIM as we are reading some terrible information about
POLLUTION in these two cities.
For this reason we would like to ask you some suggestions that will be for us very useful about the following subjects:

1- POLLUTION: I would like to get your opinions and your truth about the subject pollution (AIR, WATER, FOOD), to know how did you find
some solutions to it.
Is it possible to breath cleaner air living outside of the down town of these two big cities (Beijing and Harbin) and stay in the city only for work?
Is water in bottle (to use for cooking and for drinking) coming from Europe or other western countries available?
Is there anybody using some water purifier in his house?
Is there anybody using some air purifier in his house?
Is there the possibility to eat exclusively food coming from Europe or other western countries ( frozen food, canned food for vegetables and fruits )?
In case we would be interested in receiving periodically food from Europe by post, do you think there would be any restrictions
at the custom?

2- INTEGRATION IN THE SOCIETY: was it easy to integrate with the Chinese society and to offer to your family a good health care service?
What about the school for your children?
3- PRESENCE OF WESTERN CULTURE: is there a good number of western citizens?
4- COST OF LIVING: which minimum cost of living should a western citizen (that is living in Beijing or Harbin) consider?

Any suggestion or experience from you will be very very useful and we thank you very much even if you can answer only in part and only to some of the
above questions!!!

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Dragonofjapan
11/24/2009 13:25 EST

I know nothing about Harbin, but much of my advise can be used there.

First, outside of city is nicer. In Beijing go north east. There is a famous school (forget the name) but powerful Chinese send there children there. Talk to those teachers about water suppliers importing water from us or Europe causes more pollution. There is perfectly good water from water suppliers in 5 gal bottles. The wealthy powerful people always get the best stuff.

Next. Food is fine there. Use the better shops. There are also farmers who grow for others again teachers will know. Not all teachers be persistant.

If you are a native English speaker, think of offering classes, but not just English. Pick your hobby. Cooking in English. Aerobics in English. And charge a lot. This will get you the richer housewives who are connected and can smooth things in government, business and socially. Everything in Japan and China is connections and relationships.

When you make these classes have their monthly payments be drawn automatically from their account to your account.

You will never be fully accepted, but you can make friends and have a wonderful life. Teaching has a huge advantage. Teachers are in the most elite rank in society. So create the class charge a large entrance fee and large monthly fee. This way your class is a status symbol and you make a lot of money. Only have a few classes.

If you are going to stay a long time four plus years buy but after you live there a year and you have connections. Your connections can help with all that. Then put in a reverse osmosis full building water purifyier. You can find used ones from small hotels in us or japan.

Still drink and cook with bottled water. Ice as well

before you move in consult a feng shui master, not because you believe but they do. Word will spread and you " face" will go up.

Get a few ion generators. Small but good are better. In bedrooms and in living room. That will clean air in house. Make sure they are easy to clean. Ion generators collect the particulate matter so they need to be cleaned.

In those cultures teachers are given gifts and taken places as a sign of your student's respect for you. You do not need to return the favor.

However, if you see something and a student pops into you mind, buy it and wrap in a piece of red silk and give it. They will owe you a huge favor.

Be careful not to give your lower ranking ( even in the rich and powerful or especially in the rich and powerful there are clear ranks) student a present and not give one to a higher ranking one.

Women are the grease and glue in those societies.

Hope this has been useful

Zip
Dragon of Japan

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apachina
12/17/2009 20:45 EST

Beijing is China's center of government, commerce and culture. It’s rapidly becoming a global metropolis on par with other key Asian cities. Harbin is a 2nd tier city and is the capital of Heilongjiang Province in China’s northeast. While it is far behind Beijing in terms of size, development and exposure, Harbin is nonetheless an important city and has the basic infrastructure for expatriates to live and work.

In Beijing, air pollution is the biggest issue, although a lot of this comes from neighboring cities and areas. The government has taken various measures to improve air quality and while smog and haze are still problems, the conditions are continually improving. Harbin has less pollution, mainly caused by the burning of coal for heat during winter.

In Beijing, it is possible to live in the suburbs and commute to work in the city. In fact, most expat villa compounds are located outside the city. In addition to cleaner air, there is also more space, especially for children and pets.

Imported bottled water and food products (frozen or canned) are available from large supermarkets though choices are much wider in Beijing than Harbin. In Beijing, you can also find importers who do direct home delivery.

It’s normal to have a water purifier installed at home so that tap water can be made safer for drinking/cooking etc. Water purifiers are easily available from appliance stores. Both imported and locally-made air purifiers are also available.

Regarding culture and integration, the Chinese are usually friendly and welcoming towards expatriates. In any city, there are places that offer language and cultural training, which can make communicating and integrating with locals easier and fun. Beijing is becoming a global city, with a significant foreigner population that is growing steadily. Regardless of your nationality, you should be able to find a thriving community of people from your home country. The availability of Western art, food, entertainment, music, etc., is expanding tremendously.

As for schools, Beijing has many international schools (some with world-class facilities) and some of the national curriculums that are available include US, UK, Canadian, Australian, German, French and Japanese. Bilingual local schools are also available. In Harbin, there are schools that accept international students of all ages.

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