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KingDphax
  7/17/2013 01:52 EST

Anyone with good or bad experiences with marriage agencies in Colombia, specifically Barranquilla? Please explain.

mawdsjeff
  7/17/2013 11:54 EST

If you learn Spanish, you don't need agencies! The Colombian women are the most caring and loving women I have ever met. They like English and American men for friendship and love. I suggest you make friends with one first and see how it goes. They are not like these women in England, who meet a man at a disco, and afterwards say "your house or mine?" The key is friendly Spanish..."Hola Senora" at first, then later "hola mami, que mas?" When they like you a lot, then they say "Hasta luego papi" I am married to a Colombian lady, when we met in England 26 years ago, I didn't know any of the love words. Here's a few; "Te extrano" = I miss you
"Te adoro" = I adore you" and "Te quiero" = I love you.you won't need this one: "Tu casa o la mia?" = your house or mine...Ha! Ha! Regards from the old romantic...Geoff

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barrie1972
  7/17/2013 11:54 EST

bollocks to all that mate , just head down to Colombia and met the local girls , best way , and don't take them back to the states or anywhere else , not unless you want to be screwed by some divorce attorney and have them run of with someone their own age. REMEBER THEIR NOT WITH YA BECAUSE YOU LOOK LIKE BRAD PIT (UNLESS YOU DO LOL)

barrie1972
  7/17/2013 12:03 EST

and like the other guy said their are some good ones down here, my mate married to one for 12 years and she as good as gold . dating agency what they on there for ? British passport or a green card . hey fair play to them if they can get it , anybody who wants to open their horizons is ok in my book. but your goner me some wide ones as well .

barrie1972
  7/17/2013 12:03 EST

and like the other guy said their are some good ones down here, my mate married to one for 12 years and she as good as gold . dating agency what they on there for ? British passport or a green card . hey fair play to them if they can get it , anybody who wants to open their horizons is ok in my book. but your goner me some wide ones as well .

masterita
  7/18/2013 00:18 EST

My sister in-law met her husband through Cupido Manizales a few years back. Sadly however, most of the marriage agencies here have turned to the dark side. Most of them are geared for quick hookups, because most men that use them are looking for just that. Most women know that and are expecting it. So they will be playing the game of "I'll be your girlfriend but you better send me money each month". From what I understand some of the girls are prostitutes. There are some honest women mixed in there I am sure. However be careful.

You are best off scouting around town for some bars and lounges for the type of girl you like or better yet walk around the shopping malls and strike up a conversation. I have never seen any gringo get shot down. Women are typically friendly enough to talk to you even if they are not interested. But even if they are not, they would likely be happy to set you up with a family member or friend.

If you are looking to start a relationship before coming down than the dating sites can help but honestly Facebook is free and almost as easy. You can actually do searches for single women in a particular city. From there you can send them a friends request and start chatting that way.

Just use common seance when flying down to meet someone and avoid anyone that brings the $$ subject up. Women are very family orientated down here but they know gringos are soft hearted and can try to take advantage of that. So take it slow and have fun.

Happy hunting! ;p

- Michael

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ElinglesLoco
  7/18/2013 07:11 EST

Masterita. A pretty good synopsis in your post. Spot on, with the advice.

I won't repeat my post here, but I covered a few of the girlie scams in my post on "blondewithblueeyes" thread, - Visiting Colombia in 3 weeks. They are doing to us, what we did to them, and Boy! Do they know how to do it? :))

The only other thing I should say, is don't expect a new found girl friend to open up with all her personal info straight away, especially some of the higher class of girl, for they are so security concious, and have been brought up to always have an eye open for their own safety. You might be lucky to get a cellphone number, but don't expect to be taken back to their apartment on the first date. The ones who are nice, have a good position, and are afraid of scams/extorsion/etc, will keep you at a distance from their real personal info. After a while, when they can trust you, they will open up completely, but they have to feel safe with you first.

mawdsjeff
  7/22/2013 10:41 EST

Slightly off-topic, but I don't remember my password to start a new thread! Can anyone tell me this: If a gringo is in Colombia with a "conjugal visa" and his wife gets angry over something, can she have him thrown out of the country? My wife has half-joked a few times about it, and I want to see if I can change the type of visa. I have been here ONE year out of the 3 needed for residency. Thanks Geoff

psorensen
  7/22/2013 11:45 EST

Hi Geoff

I'd like to know the same my wife is in the same boat not sure if Ill stay with her she has been asking for things with this same joking serious threat

I have the same visa for 2 years know but don't want to depend if she's in a good mood or not for my future in Colombia since I left it all to be here good states side job etc I'm not retired in mid 30ies and must work was counting on my residency to find a job without getting a work permision from the consulate just a hassle

Maybe there is another visa you and I can get to get for residency.

Or does anyone know If I have spouse visa for 2 years and we get divorced then have a different spouse before the visa expires if I have the wait 3 years again?

Really appreciate it

masterita
  7/22/2013 16:27 EST

Basically everything you need to know about Visa's is at the following link:

http://www.cancilleria.gov.co/servicios/colombia/visas

As far as the divorce issue: I was told IF you get a divorce you should do so while at the airport because your visa ends when you marriage ends. You will then have to re-enter the country under a new visa (So I am told). However if you have assets here than you can request a temporary visa until issues are settled and then try to get your residency. As long as you are not out of the country for (I believe) 3 months, it should not affect your residency time. But PLEASE DOUBLE CHECK, don't take my word as these laws change often and from what I am told they will be changing again on the 24th of July, 2013.

But your wife will have to wait until the divorce is official before she can try and have you booted from the country.

If you have a child here in Colombia you can bypass the 3 year wait and apply for your residency immediately. They request that you have the support of the child's mother otherwise getting the visa will be more difficult.

btlewis
  7/23/2013 09:46 EST

I have been a member of an agency in Bogota since 2001. This agency has a reputation of only having legitimate women (and men) in its membership and will remove any woman they find is not there to find a serious relationship. They are attached to a Hotel (Both businesses owned by the same guy (Family). They frown on taking the girls to your room though they will not stop you. I have meet several women there and I currently have my bride to be with me in the USA which I met at this agency in 2008. Yes there is several including LLM that is/was next to this agency that specializes in providing nightly entertainment. If that is what you want it is easy to find outside of any agency in the Red Zona. If your serious about fnding love from a latina, I do suggest going there. With or without an agency. Colombian Women are friendly and can be very affectionate. I might add the american women can find a Colombian Man in Colombia but expect him to be very muchesmo and to have a mistress on the side. about 80% of Colombian Men are this way, the other 20% have found the woman of their life and tend to be unavailable.

See Charlies Place Hotel in Santa Ana Area for a inexpensive place to stay in Bogota. (RBTL Here).

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Airlinepilot
  12/17/2013 01:01 EST

Check out www.ilovelatins.com I have been on serval of there trips.
I will be going back in 2014.

soystar1
  12/22/2013 20:43 EST

Although it might tempting to join, agencies put models on their pages to attract foreign men. You have to remember that you are dealing with clients on both ends who would like attraction to occur.

Sites such as cupido, amor and friend finder are some of the sites that cater to foreign men hoping to find that special attractive lady. Most of these sites even have send your lady gift and no doubt feeding into the shark frenzy of manipulation to occur.

A common misconception of many men is to think that she can't find a man in her country and that is why she on this site (and probably many other sites too).

Most sites as you know, will charge you a fee to just join and also charge extra fees for tours and address/ phone number exchanges.

Here in Colombia people even say that if you meet someone on the net please "watch out". In other words, these women are frequent flier women who know the virtual dating game inside and out. For example, have you ever inquired on your new virtual pen pal has acquired a brand new Ipad, Iphone and laptop while earning the average salary here in Colombia?

It is a business for them and they know that many foreign men opt to play the rescuing knight in shining armor by paying for her needs e.g. medical, visa, car, rent, or other self disclosed emergencies.

I speak with many women here in Colombia who amaze me on how nonchalant they are when playing the dating game on the internet. An acquaintance once told me that she has a different name on every site and has developed a pay for beauty attitude with foreign men.

I visited her home last year during Christmas and I was amazed at all the Christmas gifts foreign men were sending her. I mean there were gifts from England, Florida, San Francisco and so on. All the men equally believed that they were the only man in her life.

Perhaps, we would call this virtual prostitution but she is business savvy person. As I watched her open the gifts, I prodded her for more information. She states, that she once dated a business owner with a private boat who would send her a ton of cash and was a happy to have met her once and thinking that she was just sitting in her room in Armenia waiting on him to return. She even disclosed that he is cute and so tierno but that didn't stop her from dating other men foreign and native.

As not to create a novel here, I recommend that you meet women here and keep you money in your pocket no matter what might occur between both of you.

I meet a lot of Colombian just out and about and make friends with a lot of women here in local shops. There are a lot of good women here.

How to meet them? I recommend using a buddy approach. You meet a female friend who might or not be attractive but she has a ton of single friends who all hang out because of the lack of quality men or so they say. From there on, you grow your social circle from her, to her friends and so on.

I have met a few men here in Armenia who tell me that they are here to meet women from the net, and I always give them this speech about keeping your money in your pocket.

So, as to recap come on down here and stay for a while and make friends with a lot of women and men. Colombia social gatherings are built around the family and their friends. But if you know someone, you are automatically invited to all the parties and outings.
From there, it is up to you.

As with many relationships behaviors occur out of needs on both sides. On one side you have men looking for beauty, companionship and / or physical interactions. On the other side, you have women and men here who are unemployed, earning low wages and possibly are the only wage earner in their multi family household thereby creating a whatever attitude to pay for food and shelter with their beauty.

I truly hope this works out for you.

ElinglesLoco
  12/22/2013 21:38 EST

Well said. Very true and astute post

Patricio
  12/23/2013 00:59 EST

This is wonderful advice for anyone in the online dating/meeting scene.

I commend you for not only the great advice but your writing skills. Happy holidays, patricio, fl, usa.

masterita
  12/23/2013 02:56 EST

Soystar pretty much nailed it. Another popular meeting site is www.tagged.com It is kind of like "FaceBook" but it is more for "hooking up".

mattinnorfolk
  1/1/2014 12:15 EST

I had a great deal of luck with A Foreign Affair in June of 2012. I found them to be helpful and sincere in Medellin, and a very good value for the money. Some of the men were the worst, as they were there to use these girls with false promises just to get laid, and were not serious. It was like speed dating as I met 66 women at a social and dinner on a Friday night, and the same on a Saturday night. I met all types there, from Doctor's to unemployed. It was a great experience as I met my fiancee' also.. You need to go slow and be aware. If she pushes for sex early, she is on there to make money, because good Colombian women in their culture may be great lovers(and they are), but their culture is not to hop into bed quickly. I had 11 dates or meets in 7 days and narrowed it to 3 to stay in contact with to see who would ask for money, stay in contact etc.. One of the 11 dates the girl told me she was engaged to a German guy. I told AFA and they zipped her off the site. Another girl asked another guy to start sending her money, and they zipped her off the site. They do the best they can, but like dating anywhere, get to know her and her family. She is less likely to be playing games if you become closer to her family. Facebook, holidays etc... If your Spanish is good, I would try Cupid first though. Good luck. I think they have the best women in the world here, the only people not grasping that is the Colombian men. I hope they don't catch on! :)

KingDphax
  1/19/2014 13:27 EST

I SPEAK spanish. I used the agency as an alternative dating tool. I also live in Colombia 50% of the year.

Maximus009999
  12/24/2014 06:32 EST

I have read a lot of viewpoints about dating sites and I hesitated whether I need to join one or not. I did that eventually. If I say that my experience is positive I will say nothing. I met a wonderful lady on this sitehttp:/www.mariya-club.com/profile/PureLove/176670/653515/ who has become my fiancée! I visited her twice and now I am waiting for her to come to Chicago. We are going to enjoy Christmas holidays together. There will be wedding in spring! Miracles are possible, now I know that!

Maximus009999
  12/24/2014 06:35 EST

I have read a lot of viewpoints about dating sites and I hesitated whether I need to join one or not. I did that eventually. If I say that my experience is positive I will say nothing. I met a wonderful lady on this sitehttp:/www.mariya-club.com/profile/PureLove/176670/653515/ who has become my fiancée! I visited her twice and now I am waiting for her to come to Chicago. We are going to enjoy Christmas holidays together. There will be wedding in spring! Miracles are possible, now I know that!

zak023
  12/24/2014 07:23 EST

soystar said it best...I have personally witnessed this 2 times in 15 years.. Your are their lottery ticket.. If you need to join an agency to find a Colombiana then you open yourself up to all kinds of users.. They are Golddiggers and have 2-3 other foreign me on the hook also..They will drain you of everything you have .. They are very experienced in this field..Try going to a mall in Medellin or wherever else in Colombia and just making eye contact with a girl and see how far that takes you.. agencies are a rip and you are looking for troulble...get ready to empty your pockets for her and she will gladly give up sex till you wallet emptys.. I have seen the same women on 3-5 different sites.. They are called Gringo Hunters...

bigjailerman
  12/24/2014 07:50 EST

I hope all goes well for you but what's the rush? Two visits and one visit to you isn't always the deepest of connections. Just be careful, if it's real LOVE it still will be there in 6 months, and a year and more. Good luck

Olivier66666
  12/24/2014 15:07 EST

A friend of mine suggested me that I should register on a dating site. I am a skeptical person and I didn’t really believe in something positive. Besides, I am not a young guy, I am 55. I registered on the site http:/www.mariya-club.com/profile/PureLove/176670/653515/ and after half a year I feel that I have found my sweetheart! Her name is Olesya and she is the best woman ever! I have just come back from Odessa where we met and now we are planning to open a fiancée visa. it is too early to speak about marriage, but we are planning to live together as a couple.

Olivier66666
  12/24/2014 15:08 EST

A friend of mine suggested me that I should register on a dating site. I am a skeptical person and I didn’t really believe in something positive. Besides, I am not a young guy, I am 55. I registered on the site http:/www.mariya-club.com/profile/PureLove/176670/653515/ and after half a year I feel that I have found my sweetheart! Her name is Olesya and she is the best woman ever! I have just come back from Odessa where we met and now we are planning to open a fiancée visa. it is too early to speak about marriage, but we are planning to live together as a couple.

dandrie
  12/24/2014 17:02 EST

These are Spam. Should be deleted from the thread.

zak023
  12/24/2014 17:48 EST

another good sugestion by big jailer man... Take a weeks vacation to meet someone you found on a Colombian dating site.. just dont tell her you are comming till the last minute.. Make sure you have her address and send her a romantic card first before you go..Then call her the day you arrive in Colombia and say you wanted it to be a surprise...If she is really everything she has told you she was this will not be an issue..It is a necessary tactical move on your end..With just hours or less for her to expect you at her door.. she will not have time to get rid of the Boyfriend if there is one there with her.. no time to alert her Girlfriends that they need to cover for you and no time to get the upper hand on you IF and I say IF she is everything she tells you she is .. you will be welcomed with open arms.. If she opposes to your surprise visit.. get a cup of coffee and wake up !! She may have $3,000 worth of new gifts in her bedroom that she cannot possibly afford on a $100 a week salary if she even has a job.. Most still live with family at 40 years old... The Colombian lottery is these agencies for 90 % of these women ....the other 10% are true to their word..What you have to ask yourself is Do You Feel Lucky enough to have one in that that 10% Colombiana.. Group ???? Well do ya ?? Listen to the posters here who speak as I do.. they know.. I got taken before and that is how youi learn.. you asked for advice you got it..Go with it ..apply it as best you can and good luck.. You may be the one hitting the lottery !!

zak023
  12/24/2014 17:54 EST

dandrie, of course you would say that.. you are probably a Colombiana.. and a Paisa if I guess correctly.. You probaly are offended by these posts because you are a good woman.. But trust me these guys are not just slinging crap.. what they say including myself is TRUE...

HugoMaracuya
  12/25/2014 00:40 EST

Actually, I think Dandrie is right. If you look at the posts from Maximus009999, and then read those from Olivier66666, they read identical, even to duplicating their posts. They also both mysteriously joined today, say virtually the same thing, and the same tone. Same link too, and I guess the same person.

But one mistake, Maximus says there will be a wedding in the Spring, and Olivier says he is unsure, but they are getting engaged anyway. Complete and utter bollocks.

I concur, a pathetic attempt at spam, advertising his own introduction (dirty weekend) agency, and those posts should be removed.

Olivier66666
  12/25/2014 03:57 EST

It is not spam! I'm just sharing my experience with people on the forum!

zak023
  12/25/2014 04:35 EST

The topic is Marriage Agencies in COLOMBIA...ODESSA is in the UKRAINE...as in Next to RUSSIA..

HugoMaracuya
  12/25/2014 09:50 EST

Just telling us, eh? 4 times???

And if you deny you are the same person, you'd better hurry up and decide if you want to marry her, for Maximus proudly claims he will be marrying her in the Spring, whereas you feel its too early to be thinking of marriage.

Maximus' fiance :- www.mariya-club.com/profile/PureLove/176670/653515/

Your fiance :- www.mariya-club.com/profile/PureLove/176670/653515/


Strange, that. Or like I said, Complete and utter bollocks.

And if you are in Chicago, she in Odessa, what are you doing on the Colombia board, if you are not a spam artist?

bigjailerman
  12/26/2014 07:08 EST

10_4 Hugo...

heartm8
  8/14/2015 02:17 EST

I went to a big tour in Baranquilla, but I also payed another agency closeby, to give me about 5 private introductions. This cost me $50 per introduction. So my impressions. First I was probably one of the better looking guys there, and that doesn't say much. I'm younger looking, don't smoke, not a drunk, and can actually meet women in the US. The guys honestly, were pathetic. Completely socially inept, and like timid little lambs and rabbits headed for the slaughter. But after a few of them got laid, I was sort of embarassed at the spectacle of these now lunatic sex machines unleashed like 50 year old frat boys.

But my experience was not good. at the large meetings. I found that at the big introductions, I was swamped by girls I had no interest in, older, with children. Being polite and small talk wasted my whole evening. The younger better looking ones, were hard to get to talk to, and then you don't want to look like a douche just zipping to talk to all the hotties, makes you look like a playboy. So I felt the "convention" atmosphere didn't work for me. I do speak really good Spanish, but I'm not a native speaker. So I found the personal introductions to be much better. I had good results with dates which went on all day with each girl I met. I also met several girls on the street who just came up to me and asked if I was American. Of course I was leery of these girls, but they were ok, not crooks. My biggest problem was my translator. She got a crush on me, and started to block my meetings with the other girls. She said "maybe we could have something together" and touched my hand. So I played along, and I told her, "what if I move down here and we marry together and live here" ...."NEVER!". This really opened my eyes guys. I also opened an account on amigos.com and met one girl on there, who was a knockout. She said she was 18, but I'm going to say she was 16 or 17. She showed up and was gorgeous, and we cooked dinner at my apartment and drank wine. So In closing, I think if I had the time, the best thing would be to move to Medellin, and get an account on Match.com international, or Amigos.com, and just pretend I'm flying in for a week, and do that over and over until I found the right girl. I definitely would NOT bring a girl to the states on a K-1 ever. Some years ago, I studied Russian, in hopes of going to Ukraine for a wife. I wound up having an affair with my Russian tutor, who had seperated from her husband. She became my gf for a while, and whew, are Russians hard people, tough as nails. So in a nutshell, I would only pay an agency for a direct 1-1 intro, and for godssake learn some Spanish guys.

thelocogringo
  8/14/2015 07:17 EST

HEARTME8,

I am envious of your enthusiasm, youth and naivety. Have fun and please report back any time.

It is a wonderfull world, in past times perhaps we would have been pirates!

Martin

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