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Iwasyoung
  7/6/2016 11:12 EST

I am expending considerable effort to immigrate to Ecuador for retirement. Some assistance has been less than helpful.

I began by getting my Birth certificate appostille certified. I plan to get the FBI report and income verification paper closer to my time of travel.
Then I learned that I also need a State criminal background check. The facilitator said nothing about that.
It is not problem to get, but the facilitator I originally approached didn't tell me about that. That concerns me because I can't to be tripped up. I can't afford to fly back and forth to obtain documents that I didn't get, or to rework documents that become outdated.

I have also messaged "Gringo Visa's" to learn their process and rates.

I would like to learn if anyone can help me to be sure my facilitator is providing good, cost effective, reliable service.
If the Visa should be processed in Ecuador, I will need a round trip ticket and I understand I will be legally in the country 3 months. Will that be more than sufficient to complete the process?
What are truly the only documents I will need, and how recent must they be at the time of processing in Ecuador?

I have been enthralled with the Ecuadorian people and the indigenous South American cultures since I was 6 years old.

OceanHideaway
  7/7/2016 17:42 EST

The process for applying for a residency visa in Ecuador is comparably easier than most other countries on the planet.

That being said, there are certain steps that are required and when viewed from the standpoint of the needs of the country to review its applicants, are reasonable.

As for facilitators, they come in many levels from very good and reasonably priced for their services, to positively atrocious and usury in their fees. Finding out who is who is often difficult and the fights between what services are and are not offered, professionalism, service quality, and so forth become quite cantankerous.

First: It is possible to come to Ecuador on an extended nonresidency visa with your paperwork and apply at that time for your residency visa. If your paperwork is correct the time frame for processing can be as short as 3 weeks. If you are missing a document, then the use of DHL as a courier can be used to correct most errors so you do not need to fly back and forth.

Second: Depending on whether you get any of the top three residency visas being Pensioner, Investment, and Professional, you will require proof of your qualification for that type of visa. That would be one set of paperwork you will need to gather in accordance with the criteria set forth by the immigration office.

Third: Part of the procedure to apply a background check of criminal activity, investigation of ongoing criminal activity and a research of any jail time done. At this time both a State Police and a Federal Police background checks are necessary. These require your fingerprints and a cover letter with the appropriate fee be sent to 2 locations. One set to the State police where you currently live and the other to the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). The state report should take a few weeks to return but the FBI report may take 4 to 6 weeks to return to you. These reports are time sensitive. At one time they needed to be no older than 90 (NINETY) days although sometimes documents up to 180 (SIX MONTHS) have been accepted. If the reports show nothing to report, you may run over 90 days, but if you have issues on your report, you want to have them as fresh as possible.

FOURTH: Verifying your documents to be acceptable in a foreign country requires an extra step. Following WWII a Treaty was signed in the Hague in the Netherland between many countries recognizing the legality of certain documents if properly authorized. That authorization is referred to as an APOSTILLE. It is a sort of "super notary public" stamp made by the Secretary of State of a state for state documents (State Police Report, University Transcripts ---signed and notarized---, Court documents such as Final Judgement of Divorce) or by the US Sectary of State for Federal documents (FBI Background check). Part of your time frame will be taking all of your documentation, and if necessary getting it signed by a notary public (referred to as an acknowledgment) and then sent to have an apostille added. This has a cost of about $10 per stamp but there may be an additional cost if you need to expedite having this accomplished. You may need to expedite the apostille of your FBI background check and its apostille because of the backlog at the FBI and there are authorized FBI Channelers who do this. One that I have used and recommended National Background Check and they are online and even have copies of the Fingerprint chart to print out for your convenience.

FIFTH Translation: Since all of your documents will be placed into an application to apply for a visa to Ecuador and Ecuador is a Spanish speaking country, you will need to have your paperwork translated into Spanish. Every word! The translation must be performed by someone seen as qualified and that person must include a statement of their qualifications and that they have made a true and correct copy. for each portion of the package And lastly and most important, this statement must be signed off before a Notario here in Ecuador. A Notario is an attorney with authorization from the country to accept the legality of documents similar to our Clerk of Courts in the USA. Some individuals have tried to use translators from the USA and have a notary public in the USA sign off to greater or lesser (much lesser) success.

Having these documents prepared, you are much better prepared to hire a Facilitator and ask them to review your documents for your choice of Visa and ask what they will charge to help you file your application.

You can ask them what they will charge to translate the documents knowing ahead of time if you have a simple 1-page police report and FBI report or a problem to handle which might require more time.

You will know if you are going to be sending a cargo shipment which means you may not want to get your visa too soon since you have only a 6 month window for that shipment to arrive ..and you don´t want it sitting on the dock after that time frame (A reason NOT to get your Visa in the USA).

And you can quickly discover who is overcharging you with a flim-flam on "expedited services" ...by sending your signature to some family member the USA to use their notary stamp illegally on an international document placing you and possibly your visa status in jeopardy. The facilitator who is known to do this is currently being "looked into" and it´s an ongoing investigation from what I am being told.

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EcuadorDean
  7/8/2016 11:01 EST

If you didn´t know a round trip ticket is almost always less expensive than a one-way so buy a round trip ticket incase you decide it is not for you here. Also consult a lawyer or one of the businesses like ecuassit.com instead of relying on heresay in this foram, if you are just cheap and trying to say a couple bucks you may be in for an unpleasent surprise later....

EcuadorDean
  7/8/2016 11:03 EST

Oceanhideaway you should charge this person the $5 you get for a consultation via fiverr.com lol

cristos7
  7/8/2016 21:45 EST

Ocean is a wonderful Moderatrix, Historian, Earth Mother and Font of Wisdom, and is more often right than wrong. BUT, FBI Channelers DO NOT handle Apostilling. (Unless you wanna pay GringoVisas $2,500 per person for their Deluxe Package...) Also, you can now get DOJ and FBI reports in about 48 hours, depending on which 'Channeler'/Medium you use. (MyFBIReport.com is highly recommended.) And, as I understand it, the SIX MONTH clock on moving your belongings to Ecuador Duty-Free only starts ticking once you have officially picked up your Visa at an Ecuadoran Consulate in the US, (Or once you have obtained your Cedula in Country, which MUST happen within 30 days.) Ergo this should NOT make getting your Visa while still in the US a problem. Oh, and Wind Person, Ocean deserves 10,000 x Five dollars for her generous contributions to this Forum, but who's counting?;~)

cristos7
  7/8/2016 21:47 EST

Sorry Wind Person, I was reffering to ED. Mea Culpa.

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OceanHideaway
  7/9/2016 02:13 EST

You caught an error... sort of.

National Background Checkers expedited the FBI Background check and they will offer an apostille service for a about ...too much money... At least that is what I received when I reapplied for my change of visa status last year to my Professional visa. I chose to have USAuthentication http://www.usauthentication.com/us-authentication-services/fbi-background-check.php handle the Apostille from the US Secretary of State as they were hundreds of dollas cheaper than NBC.

As for the Time Clock... it is the date on your VISA.

...the date on your cedula is immaterial and all other dates are immaterial.

It is a tax excemption for the first 6 months from receiving your VISA.

As for charging $5 for what I write on this site, no. What I write here is an offering of what knowledge I have. What I provide with a $5 half hour consultation is personal to the needs of the person I am speaking with and of course, verbally I can cover much more ground more quickly.

That´s the point...

windshadow
  7/9/2016 14:46 EST

cristos7
I don't have a problem with that. I only charge $4.75 and know it all! LOL That ought to bring the Canadians running.
No seriously, She has been around the block and knows how to get information. I wouldn't do it $50 per half hour. My experience is you try to give a person facts and all they do is argue with you and come up with a buttload of what-ifs.
Good luck Susan, you are a patient woman.

windshadow
  7/9/2016 15:01 EST

Ecuadordean,
It has always been my experience that two one way tickets cost more than a round trip ticket. Almost the same but not as much as a round trip ticket.
My experience with lawyers and facilitators many years ago was not good so when I say, do it yourself it is not an economical decision. I ended up firing both lawyers that worked on mine, took a deep breath, filed the damn papers and that was that. I will admit mine had some hiccups but nothing that couldn't be handled by mail and telephone from here. It was so simple in hind site that I can only laugh at those that don't give it a shot. I will say it was a great free education about the system and how it works here in Ecuador. By the way, it works.
Patience is the key. Just relax and it will come together in time. Don't think you can rush it, just relax and it will get done.
My experience is both lawyers and facilitators make you do most of the work yourself, charge you outrageous amounts for very little product, and are basically there to hold your hand and mis-inform you.
It is a racket if you ask me. Ok, now send your $4.50 to Susan. She will know best how to spend it.
So far the most I have heard being charged over the years has been $6,200 and they thought that was fine. BTW, that was for one person, simple as heck pension status, no hiccups.

windshadow
  7/9/2016 15:05 EST

Seriously Susan, $5.00 ?!?!?!?!
That is ridiculous!
Your time and advice is worth more than that of any lawyer or facilitator I have ever met.
Bump it up to $75 and keep up the good work.
You must look at your added value!!!!

OceanHideaway
  7/9/2016 22:03 EST

Windshadow...

... Tranquilo...

By the way here it is for those who want to know what Windshadow is referring to:

https://www.fiverr.com/susanschlesinge/skype-about-moving-to-live-in-ecuador

My offer on FIVERR for a 1/2 hour consult ...and it has to be over Messenger because my computer is doing something funky with SKYPE... is just that, a consultation.

If there is more that you require in the way of information or services or direction, I can supply that as well and yes there is a fee or cost.

I think that I have a proven record of expertise and many agree with that evaluation. Now I am providing a way for peope to hire me for personal consutation and services that I am uniquely qualified to offer.

If you are reading this and interested, drop me a message and we can connect for a consultation shortly.

Let´s discuss how I may assist you.

Susan

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coppi
  7/10/2016 18:28 EST

Just a correction.
The correct address is ecuaassist.com.

Sojourner44
  7/10/2016 19:49 EST

I have a question for the forum; if a United States citizen with adaquate income, qualified for pensianado status marries an Ecuadorian citizen in Ecuador AND the United States, what is the pathway to permanent residence?

OceanHideaway
  7/11/2016 00:02 EST

Either a residency visa as a dependent of an Ecuadorian spouse or a Pension visa...

But you are better off with the Pension visa as a dependent visa would end in the occurrence of death or divorce.

So..if you are asking which is a better choice, the visa that would remain in effect would be the one not dependent on another person.

Sojourner44
  7/11/2016 00:12 EST

Do both visas have the same requirements to obtain? Same costs?

coppi
  7/11/2016 07:05 EST

I posted a correction for the website address of ecuaassist, shown in a previous article, and some cretin has seen fit to mark it with dislike.
Would he or she explain why they did this.

withoutego
  7/11/2016 08:24 EST

Yes, lets "out" the cretin !

sinego

windshadow
  7/11/2016 10:27 EST

That could be tuff since most of US are cretins of one sort or the another.

OceanHideaway
  7/11/2016 13:21 EST

The identity of "Thumbs Downer Dude" ..is unverified...

As far as we know it is a very sad individual with an obsession and an itchy mouse finger...

We have learned to take it as a sign of endearment and embraced his antisocial behavior as just one more endearing quirk of those who enliven our existance here.

Does add a certain charm to our posts however and charting his daily activities has become sort of a game with many of us...

So let us raise a toast to ThumbsDownDude... Mas his clicker never fail him and his identity forever remain... a mystery (cause who would want to know this character personally?)

If you agree...please reply with

YOUR THUMB... all in favor... CLICK!!!

jerryg22
  7/11/2016 13:23 EST

Coppi, As a newbie, and not the disliker, my guess is that your post was taken as an undeserved plug for a company that was not mentioned in the thread. Not playing cricket.

Jamescaj
  7/11/2016 13:56 EST

Contact [email protected]
They will guide with the process for a reasonable price.

cristos7
  7/11/2016 14:22 EST

I tried to thumbs up our Majestic Ocean while thumbs downing our Constant Cretin and all I keep getting is "Could not find the included template votegoodbasic.cfm":((( And yes, I too wish All cretins (not to be confused with people from Crete) EVERYWHERE would start doin' some 'splainin...

coppi
  7/11/2016 17:38 EST

To Jerryg22.
My spelling correction in Ecuador Dan's message of the 7th, at 11.01, was only a polite reference to a typing error.

Your inference that it is a means of advertizing the Company is not accepted. I will however say that I am using them for my visa application and find their approach very professional.

cristos7
  7/11/2016 20:19 EST

Now that I think of it, I object to our omni-present and ineffable Thumbs-Downer being called a Cretin. I mean, he/she/it may indeed be a cretin, and even a Cretin from Crete, but he/she/it is OUR Cretin and we should defend that individual’s right to be a patent but objective hater. Now mind you, I feel as violated by his/her/it’s indiscreet criticism as the next guy/gal/transgender poster on this forum, and I have wondered how we might rehabilitate this glass-half-empty individual into a more eloquent participant in our enlightened discourse, but at least it is a familiar violation, and one which it appears we must all accept, if not embrace… DISLIKE AS YOU WISH MY FRIEND, WE STILL LOVE YOU;~)

PACountryBoy
  7/11/2016 20:23 EST

WIND....OH.....weeeellll, aren't we so special? We'll just let that slide....or will we?. We wouldn't want any (censored)'s, regardless ,of where they come from, to think that North Americans,were "cretins" by responding to such a (censored) comment. But....I can't resist: I didn't see any of the hundreds of thousands of dollars nor volunteer help that we contributed after the earthquake, refused. I saw people caring for one another and the animals that were left frightened and alone. begging for help...and we were there with Rev Graham to bring it. OH...BTW, you're welcome!!!! 'Till next time!

PACountryBoy
  7/11/2016 20:28 EST

OCEAN.... Sorry, darlin', No thumb but a Bronx salute to him. :>))) P.S. I have no idea what you're talkin; about but I'm with ya!!

windshadow
  7/12/2016 00:41 EST

I should not have capitalized US PAcountryboy. That is misleading. I was saying that we were Cretins, us, vs them not USA but I can see how it sounded. LOL, I must be more careful with my capital letters. Have a good day...

cristos7
  7/12/2016 15:28 EST

Just what percentage of the US population qualify as cretins will be determined in November...

windshadow
  7/12/2016 16:19 EST

cristos7,
Is there a choice? They are the same, they are politicians! Evil to the core.

Grasshopper
  7/12/2016 18:44 EST

I know I am a cretin that just finished eatin'... pig on a spit. I wish I could post the pic I took (did on FB) ...and that was AFTER a good Cuban lunch!

Oh I know it has nada to do with the topic, but I am too full to care!

Susan, you are more than generous with your service and price. Others have said as much and I concur. ,,,I won't even be foolhardy enough to say what I would charge for a half hour of ANYTHING, ...lol. (but multiply it by 10 and add a $30 service fee and you would be getting close)

agh.. said I wouldn't say. I knew I ate too much.

Oh, and I thumbed up your comment - don't know that I've ever thumbed one down,

Now, if the had middle finger option,,, well,,, I'm sure I'd have flipped that bird a couple of times.. (can we get one of those)

"hey hey, I'm the singer in black.
throw your finger in the air, lemme see where your at!"

Ok... wth happened to the oxygen up here????
I CAN'T BREATHE!!!

withoutego
  7/12/2016 21:06 EST

GH

My mouth is watering at the "Pig on a spit". I am picturing that roast pig place across from Coral Centro on Ave America in Cuenca. Hmmmmm !

Cant wait to get back home to Ecuador and some decent food.

sincomidagringo

OceanHideaway
  7/13/2016 00:44 EST

And now back to verified information:

First Crete:
Crete and the Crete´s (not to be confused with cretins who are synonymous with troglobytes) were actually an advanced civilization with indoor plumbing and rather sophisticated tastes.

Pig on a spit... I saw that... suit yourself... I had encebollado this moning.. while sitting in the mist on the malecon of Montañita watching the boats and surfers... hmmm...I think I had the better meal all around...

The Rev Graham in the Eathquake... Here and Gone in a matter of hours... like the Christmas shoe drop in Guayaquil...it´s a publicity stunt, nothing more and the REAL work of Earthquake Disaster recover contines ...with over 2500 Tremors including the past 2 nights of tremors approaching 6.0 magnatude, and more deaths. I find this sort of self serving "christian-izing" of super churches to be absolutely disgusting...

Ecuaassit... ans Marco Chuilisa ... a good guy in my book... and I like his girlfriend too, Rachel Good who works with FIRMC, and international medical program. They are working on the ground now in Anconcito and the two of them were and are still working as well in the quake recovery and supplied rescue plane travel to some of our most seriously injured expats like Cathy Corliss of Surf Shak, Canoa.

.... and that´s my verified info ...up to the moment.

Grasshopper
  7/13/2016 08:19 EST

Yes, Crete was a remarkably advanced civilization with technology that surpassed (in many ways) most other nation states of that region, in that time. The Ancient Greeks are often credited as being the cradle of Western Civilization, but just as Rome inherited much of their advancements from Greece, so did Greece inherit much of theirs from Crete... who knows who influenced them? The Phoenicians were seafaring masters and just to the east of Crete... I would give anything to travel back to that time and place to be able to see and verify what historians seem so certain of - when I could only give much of it as educated guesses.

When archeological discoveries blow conventional thinking out of the water enough times, and history books are rewritten repeatedly, you would think that it would perhaps dampen the hubris of scholars a bit, however the ego that some carry with the belief that they "know" what has gone on before must prevent that.

I would like to hear a history professor just once say, "we think this was the case."

I have yet to, however... although surely there are those who are not so self assured.

I am about as religious as your average brick. (spiritual, yes... dogmatic? not in the least).

Susan is correct, imho, about the publicity stunts of many organized Christian "superchurches". It is all about the mighty dollar and the televangelists are the worst.

If I had a dime for every time I ran across Robert Tilton "selling" a freaking prayer cloth and then babbling (and yeah I know of the Tower of Babble story as well) in "tounges" and damn near cracked a tooth in anger... well, I'd have a lot of dimes. The taking of money - the 10% tithing - has got to be one of the biggest scams mankind has ever been subjected to.

As to "pig on a spit" lol... yes, you probably had a better meal. But, you know.. when in Rome

Try grasshoppers - (7 species are kosher even)

dry "fry" them until they are crispy all the way through... they will turn bright red like a lobster, (or most any creature with an exoskeleton) ...they remind me a bit of those Popeye's Hot Fries (junk food in a bag) - except they aren't terrible for you.

I was introduced to them as a child by a Muslim friend named Hibib... long story and not for here..

so, no... my name has nothing to do with Kane and his walking of the earth

James

trettka
  7/16/2016 14:42 EST

I am in the process of hiring Sara Chara. Please advise if anyone has used her in the past. Thank you in advance.

MoodyBlue
  7/16/2016 18:50 EST

Sara Chaca of Ecuador Visa's you meant I guess? I've emailed her while back for information regarding getting a pensioners visa and Cedula. Her pricing seems fair enough which includes getting your Cedula and I like the fact that they also have an office in the US. They will obtain your visa prior to leaving the US also if you choose. I may use their services when the time comes.

OceanHideaway
  7/17/2016 01:18 EST

Locusts...

...there are Locusts that are kosher...

´cause when they swarm and eat all the grain... leaves only one thing to do to keep from starvation and we are a very pragmatic Tribe ;)

For the question about Ms Chaca, do a search on this site for her name ... it will pull up all mentions of her name good/bad and you can review what others have found. Also an "office" in the USA is usually a MailBOx Etc, o a cousin´s house. Usuallys someone in the states who will illegally notarize paperwork (very bad for foreign paperwork) and currently GringoVisas is being audited to discover just how many of these falsified documents exist and are being pulled for further reviewed. It´s not going to be pretty when all that comes out. Be wary of "expedited" services. And yes...that has been verified by abogados working for Migracion.

PACountryBoy
  7/17/2016 20:29 EST

OCEAN...sorry to take so long to agree with your comment about Samaritan's Purse..."The Rev Graham in the Eathquake... Here and Gone in a matter of hours...it´s a publicity stunt, nothing more ...." I agree!!!! These people are nothing but a bunch of charlatans. They only thing they did was: Make five different airlifts to EC on their own rehabbed DC-8,, sent several medical crews that setup a field hospital there and performed 7 to 10 surgeries a day, with a staff of 40 providing medical care to 30 inpatient beds a day, delivered 40 tons of supplies: clean water for 50,000 people, 9,000 tarps and tents, 6,000 hygiene kits, 3,400 water filtration units, constructed latrines and provide a lift for that news hungry,ego sucking female news trash, Van Susteren and her husband a free hitch on the first flight in on the premise of giving immediate international coverage of the disaster when we all know that all they wanted was a free ride for a vacation. Graham didn't even make the first air lift in....he "supposedly" wanted to make room for medical staff. Yea...right! We all know that all they wanted was a little publicity to fleece the public with all that JESUS stuff! Right on OCEAN! :>)))

OceanHideaway
  7/18/2016 01:03 EST

Since self published information is often not the best locations for verifying information, I took a look at sites other than Grahams own Samaritan´s Purse to confirm your facts:

http://www.eluniverso.com/noticias/2016/04/26/nota/5546970/hospital-samaritans-purse-atendera-minimo-dos-meses-chone.

There is proof they were on the ground after the earthquake and that they claimed they would remainfor two months.

Previously findings on their Christmas Shoe distribution in Guayaquil have in fact been nothing more than a staged publicity stunt. Regrettably their previous actions colored my view of their work here 3 months past.

I apogize for any misunderstanding.

MoodyBlue
  7/18/2016 07:19 EST

Samaritan’s Purse has met the post-earthquake relief needs of thousands of Ecuadorians for clean water, shelter, and medical care during the past two months. We are leaving the mobile hospital in Chone, so Ecuadorian physicians will be able to provide medical care while the town’s hospital is rebuilt.

On June 20, Samaritan’s Purse turned over ownership and operations of our emergency field hospital to Ecuador’s Ministry of Health. Our medical advisory group stayed there through June 30.

They even left the field hospital they brought over for Ecuadorian physicians to continue helping others. Now that should get Samaritan's Purse some publicity.

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