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101Julius
10/9/2009 10:38 EST

Will going to Maadi with Raytheon any advice will be helpful.

Thanks

Julius

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timw
10/10/2009 23:47 EST

they will take care of you well, maadi is a bit busy full of people. will you be office staff,depot or field service for hawk,gensets or something new.

the raytheon team were a decent bunch when i worked there.

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101Julius
10/11/2009 10:06 EST

Have a lot of questions if you don’t mind.

I’ll be going with depot or field service with HAWK.

What are the work facilities like?

How many Raytheon employees are there? The reason I ask is that is I used to work with a person that is working with Chaparral that is the only one with Kratos and he said that the working Facilities is terrible.

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Julius

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AhmedMansoor
10/11/2009 13:56 EST

Dear 101Julius, Best Take Egyptian money and be careful like any place in America the world. Currency is Egyptian Pounds, Or Dollars, Stirling could be changed in Egypt, But to be in the safe side, Change from where you are. Average weather here in Egypt is 29-40 C degrees, So Try light clothes. Drink bottled water, tab water is not potable. Pick the yellow Taxi because it's equipped with a Taxi Meters - all black and white taxi fare are based on bargaining and they have a special fare for foreigners if you know what I mean!!!! With an open mind and eyes!!!
In case you want to call me my name is Ahmed, 2012-404-5991 & my email: ahmedmansoor@email.com. I'm a freelancer I aim to deliver the best of my ability, 100% of what is promised, but reserve the right to make mistakes as I am human, but always to make amends.
Enjoy your stay
Ahmed

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timw
10/12/2009 11:50 EST

the hawk overhaul depot is a nice facility located on a base just outside of heliopolis, its about thirty minutes drive on the ring road,from maadi.the same base also has the facility where your friend worked and some are in a very poor operational state. the depot for the birds is located just outside of maadi.
I saw they were looking for a person for gen sets and thats on another base not far from the hawk depot. i guess they have about twenty people based on what i heard last. i can contact a person i know here, i think he has a brother working in the hawk depot you coming tdy or on a yearly. ask away do you know the managers and office staff

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101Julius
10/12/2009 12:55 EST

I was going to Saudi Arabia, but for some reason the Saudi Arabian representative rejected my application, my wife thinks it’s because she’s Thai. The recruiter asked me if I would want to go to Egypt, he said that the program starts Jan 1 2010; so far I haven’t seen the contract. The only thing I know is that I’ll be working on the HAWK overhaul; I have experience with both field maintenance and depot level repair so I’m not sure which one I’ll be doing, maybe both. My friend said that HAWK is in shop 60; he was working Chaparral in shop 1.

I have a friend that is working at LC32 at White Sands (Bill Ditty), he asked me to find out if Gary Blazer or Mike Emery is still there.

Thanks for the info.
Julius

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101Julius
10/12/2009 12:59 EST

Oh I forgot, a yearly contract.

Julius

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timw
10/13/2009 11:44 EST

yep, mike and Gary are both here. sorry i don't know bill ditty.I did email one of the guys but hes currently back in the states for a family matter and he does have a brother still in the hawk depot.
last i knew Phil brown was doing the field service stuff. in three years working there i never saw him in the depot most of the failed stuff is just swapped out then sent to the depot I left to do something for lockheed. now it looks like i should have stayed with raytheon.

Saudi Arabia can be very rigid in the requirments they have.

I have mikes number if your buddy wants it but you need to be carefull if he makes any inquirys.

its a really big base it has all the locally used systems ask your buddy if he knows tommy keener if he does and toms still around texas tell him tim wallick said hello

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101Julius
10/13/2009 12:50 EST

Will let Bill know that they are still there.

Don't know many people with Raytheon. Worked for Kentron after I got out of the Army, then Civil Service with HAWK at ECHO Range China Lake Ca. Retired from Civil Service and now working HAWK at Dona Ana with Kratos. Looking for some more experience in another country before I retire again, so I thought I'd try Raytheon.

Again thanks for the info.

Julius

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101Julius
10/15/2009 11:59 EST

I saw on another forum that there is a steel mill in Maadi and that it is polluting the air, is the pollution bad?

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Julius

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AhmedMansoor
10/15/2009 13:39 EST

Published in Cairo by AL-AHRAM WEEKLY ON LINE.
Every time you inhale these days, you are subjecting yourself to possible health risks. Jennifer Evans reports

"Out of each 10 people you'll meet in Cairo this time of year, six or seven of them will have this sort of flu-like cough," says Dr Ashraf Hatem, professor of chest diseases at Cairo University Hospital, referring to the symptoms so many Cairenes suffer from during the period from late October through November.
"Usually it starts with a soreness or itching in the throat, pains in the eye, itching in the nose, and sneezing," Hatem explains. "Then there is a cough, which may come in sporadic attacks that worsen in the evening and at dawn, when the pollution is worst. While these symptoms usually indicate a viral infection of the kind which is passed on so easily in heavily-populated areas like Cairo, the condition is increased significantly by air pollution and what we call the 'black cloud'."
The infamous 'black cloud' first appeared in 1999. Although its presence continues to be blamed on the burning of the waste from rice fields in rural areas just outside the capital, this is not the sole factor in its formation, according to Dr Mahmoud Amr, professor of environmental and occupational medicine at Cairo University and Director of Toxicology at Qasr Al-Aini Hospital. Offering an analogy, Dr Amr explains that even though the practice of burning rice husks has been going on since the time of the Pharaohs, there is a simple reason that it affects the environment so strongly at this particular time of year.
"Look, when does water boil?" Amr asks sarcastically. "At 99.9 degrees or 100? In November, when the burning of rice husks is added to the other pollution factors which are already very heavy, the atmosphere reaches its boiling point. And that is where we are at in November."
Amr explains that auto exhaust fumes from the city's estimated 2 million cars combined with emissions from the area's 20,000 metal smelters are the major man-made factors contributing to the toxic composition of the cloud. There are also natural factors which aggravate the problem, including high humidity, low wind speed and high temperatures.
"The path of the mild wind passes through Lower Egypt's smog and onto the southern Delta area where rice is cultivated, picking up the smoke from the agricultural waste. Because the wind is so mild, the mass of polluted air is then unable to push itself out of the lower-lying parts of the city. This creates what we call 'black winds'."
And while the government has repeatedly made statements to the effect that all is well, the impact of these phenomena on public health is problematic. Amr says the major toxicological components which hang over the city as if caught in a bowl are nitrous and sulphuric gases. These can cause a condition of the blood called "meta-hemoglobinemia".
"The capacity of the blood to carry oxygen to all parts of your body is decreased, if it is not made impossible," says Amr. "This leads to drowsiness, fatigue, laziness, and the feeling that you need an extra coffee."
"Nitrous and sulphuric acids hanging in the air will also solidify and may cause your stomach to ache. But after a while, adaptation occurs. Then, though you no longer feel this sort of nausea and sickness, the original reason for the symptoms remains present."
According to the WHO, the average Cairene has to ingest more than 20 times what are considered acceptable levels of air pollution. When this situation is combined with the 'black winds', it is not surprising that health problems begin to multiply. "All of our body's systems are affected by polluted air," says Amr. "Your liver, kidneys, blood. No system is immune."
The effect on children is of special concern, according to Hatem.
"Children are more vulnerable to these types of acute bronchitis -- what we call acute hyperactivity -- and are more prone to bronchial asthma, which in Egypt affects 12 per cent of the population. That is a very high percentage. The other risk group especially affected at this time of year are those over the age of 60, both men and women, and especially those that suffer from a chronic illness such as diabetes, coronary artery disease, or hypertension. But in actual fact, no one is immune."
Amr concurs. "To start with the head, neurological diseases causing aggressive behaviour are one consequence. As you move down to the lungs, you will find the air causing bronchitis, pneumonia, fibrosis of the lungs and even cancer, due to these acidic winds coming from the black cloud. These effects are exacerbated, of course, for those who smoke and those who live in proximity to smokers."
Extended time spent in heavily polluted areas will increase the deleterious effects of the black cloud on personal health. Mohamed Addlem Satah, a 39-year-old traffic policeman, has been working on Corniche Al-Nil for six hours a day for the last eight years. He says he's been sick with a cough many times, even though he only smokes occasionally, and worries about the effects of pollution. "I worry especially during the black cloud," he says, "but I'm getting used to it."
Yet despite increasing public concern and medical evidence, to date no public health warning has been issued by the Ministry of Health.
"Places such as Mohandessin, where there are a lot of high buildings with little space or green areas, are the worst," says Hatem. "I wouldn't want to stand in the middle of Cairo for an extended period of time, as the central part of the city is also bad. The better areas are 6th of October, Maadi and Nasr City, because there are lots of green areas, so there is more oxygen being produced."
Hatem advises his middle and upper class patients to go and live in the new cities like 6th of October, or 10th of Ramadan, which are much healthier for them as well as for their children. But he admits that there is no easy solution. "You can bring plants into the home, prevent dust accumulation and try to live in green areas, but it's not practical advice for everyone."
Ideally, the doctors say, changes must be made at all levels. "One of the most important things is to convince people about the importance of the air they breathe, starting from one's home and going outwards, to your dust-filled streets, your community then to your government," explains Amr.
He also challenges the idea of a band-aid solution to the effect of Cairo's population on its citizens.
"The cost of treating the health effects of pollution is very high. In a country with limited resources, eventually the health costs will outweigh other expenditures and will affect our standard of living as a whole. But what if we spent the same amount on environmental initiatives as we do on public health? Do you really think our citizens would still suffer from chronic and acute bronchial problems, leukaemia, liver disease, anaemia and the other medical consequences of our toxic air?"
"It's a simple choice," Amr sums up. "Either you stop breathing, or you adopt healthy breathing." Unless the whole city wakes up and does the latter, the former outcome will continue to be increasingly common.
PROTECT YOURSELF:
Since the condition of the air will not show any significant improvement until later in the month when (and if) the rain begins and the winds improve, medical professionals suggest a number of proactive measures which you can take:
* Wear a mask, while this may invoke ridicule on the street, it is the most effective way to help your body filter the air before it passes into your precious lung tissue.
* When available, use closed circuit air- conditioning within your car which will recycle the air already inside, rather than pulling new air in from whatever part of town you happen to be passing through.
* Try to avoid being outdoors at dawn or dusk, when pollution levels are highest.
* Those already suffering from some form of bronchial-related condition, such as asthma, should take more of their inhalant medication to keep their airways open.

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101Julius
10/15/2009 15:24 EST

Thank you Mr. AhmedMansoor
I see that it is said that Maadi is one of the cleaner places to live as far as air pollution is concerned.

Again thanks for the information.

Julius

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timw
10/15/2009 16:17 EST

I lived in maadi for seven years and yes you can often see a haze in the sky. yes we have air pollution most of it is from the local cement factory's along with the granite and marble factory's not much real heavy industry in maadi

and many of the vehicles are diesel and that crap hangs in the air as maadi is located in a depression. me i moved to the highest point above sea level where i always have a good breeze and clean air. except now as they are burning the waste now from the rice and grain fields it reminds me of leaves burning in the autumn time.

when you look up to see the haze in the sky you really need to keep a eye on the ground also, so you wont trip on the garbage under your feet.

egypt is still a third world country

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101Julius
10/15/2009 21:00 EST

Where do you live Tim? I might want to get a place there when I arrive.

Julius

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timw
10/16/2009 04:00 EST

we built a place in shrouk city. but with raytheon they limit you to the maadi area for security reasons as all the embassy personell from many countrys are located around the area along with plenty of security people.

where i am a couple of the governers have there homes the commander of the navy just bought the last available lot which is about a one minute walk from a parcle the minister of defence owns.

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101Julius
10/16/2009 06:45 EST

“many of the vehicles are diesel and that crap hangs in the air”

Sounds like Bangkok, my wife is from Ban Tharae Thailand, that’s North East Thailand near the Laotian border. Bangkok is hot and humid and almost all the vehicles are diesel, the smell of diesel hits you like a hammer when you step out of the airport, your eyes burn and it’s very difficult to breathe. I hate Bangkok because of that.

Julius

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timw
10/16/2009 07:24 EST

its not near a bad as California or bangkok.

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101Julius
12/3/2009 17:10 EST

Tim have you heard of Magic Jack used with broad band to make long distance phone calls using voice over IP? I was wondering if Magic Jack will work in Egypt?

Julius

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timw
12/5/2009 01:51 EST

honestly i have heard of it not sure if it will work here but suspect it will

but i do know of a couple of other voip programs which are free and do work from here to the states and north america

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101Julius
12/5/2009 11:01 EST

Tell me about them, I'm interested.

I've been interviewed by Mike and Gary, I've been selected for the job and waiting for the offer from Raytheon. I suspect nothing more will be done until after the holidays.

Thanks Tim

Julius

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timw
12/7/2009 02:06 EST

icall is one do a quick search.your most likely correct about the time frame they should get you the offer quickly.

did you look into the current health advisory for Egypt to check out what shots you may want to get. and no matter what anybody tells you use only purchased water for drinking when you first get here unless its used in hot drinks or for cooking.

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timw
3/12/2010 07:06 EST

Did they make the offer are you coming?

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