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Dlmon
3/11/2014 23:21 EST

I'm curious if anyone has experience with or knowledge about beachfront properties in El Salvador. i.e. rental demand, tourist trends, best location, etc. I'm interested in purchasing property for my own use and as vacation rental. I've been looking in the Playa San Diego area and the beaches east of there. I like this area because of the solitude and proximity to both the airport and San Salvador/La Libertad. I don't necessarily want to be at the busier surfer beaches west of there. I visited this area and met some expats(Diane: Rancho Cajun and others). Any ideas?

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TheRealtor
4/29/2014 22:30 EST

Hello!
I happen to have some great beach properties in El Salvador. Contact me at xochitldf@yahoo.com if you are still interested.

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Panchimalca
4/30/2014 10:22 EST

I heard from my friends in El Salvadoran that San Diego has become unsafe...
I read recently that the PNC captured a group of gang members preying on tourists that rent homes at the beach in San Diego...

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busman7
5/1/2014 11:30 EST

@Panchimalca strange as I live in the area and have heard no such thing but if true then the gang members have been put away, so why are you claiming the area unsafe?

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pato23

From: El Salvador
5/2/2014 11:30 EST

Would not recommend San Diego for you then, you need to come to El Salvador, learn some Spanish, formal and street slang, chill out, smile and keep smiling, I know an excellent bilingual native driver-guide who speaks English, manages a Hostal for US Citizen owner https://www.facebook.com/Hostal.Cumbres.del.Volcan call and ask for Malcolm or Walter, they will take you slowly from Beach to Beach, there are many properties for sale direct from Owners in the Classifed Print Sections of the 2 large San Salvador Daily Papers, no need for a Realtor.

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Panchimalca
5/2/2014 14:25 EST

Gee thanks! To far from the city for my taste...FYI-I was born in El Salvador and went to La Escuela Americana and lived there for years..My mother retired in El Salvador, just spent three months there. I speak fluent spanish and english and a enough french to not offend anyone...
My advice came from my dear friends who are also Salvadoran and their parents have owned their property for over 30yrs and live in El Salvador and I came across the article a week ago...
Take my post as you wish....
Been to all the beaches in El Salvador since I was raised there...
Don't need the tourist guide...thank you..

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busman7
5/3/2014 10:43 EST

@Panchimlaca strange with all you claim about being Salvadoreño that you are spreading second hand rumours about Playa San Diego, not only on this thread but also on one you started about moving here that you took off topic to spread more fear-mongering about one of the safest locations in the country!

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Panchimalca
5/3/2014 11:39 EST

It's not a rumor...I read it it ..whatever...believe what you want to believe...
It realky doesn't matter to me...

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busman7
5/4/2014 09:12 EST

and you believe everything you read?

then you should know they are in jail so no longer a problem.

so why spread fear-mongering stories?

I think instead of moving to dangerous El Salvador you should consider Detroit where you will be perfectly safe LOL

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Panchimalca
5/4/2014 10:32 EST

What part of " it was in the news" that you don't seem to understand
To state, I read the newspaper and this is what it said, is not fear mongering....
What part of that statement makes me less than a Salvadoran?
What is your problem?
It's not a rumor, friends of mine own in San Diego and they advised me to buy in San Diego.,.why is that fear mongering? Because I don't agree with you?
You can think whatever you want but don't call people names or presume we're not Salvadorans, because we don't agree with you...my friends have lived there all there lives.
If you don't like their assessment than that's your tough luck! Enough said!

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Panchimalca
5/4/2014 10:35 EST

Correction: they advised me not to buy in San Diego

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busman7
5/5/2014 10:48 EST

You're still spreading fear-mongering gossip and sensationalist newspaper stories, with absolutely NO personal experience on the matter.

I live at Playa San Diego and say you're full of bull poo!

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Panchimalca
5/5/2014 15:55 EST

You have serious issues! I hope you leave my country, we don't need people like you..

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Roxana62
5/5/2014 17:54 EST

While Mr.Busman is not a santo of my devocion, here is my cuchara:

San Diego, yes, you will encounter gangs members at some point, as some other people that does not belong there, (Exclude Mr.Busman, pls) and matter of fact, I was in San Diego last year, this same time, and yes, the police detained a gang member, (at the Bocana) sadly, (and maybe after a good penquiada more likely), he passed to better life, and then the Human Rights people came for his advocacy; in other words: San Diego is protected: by the poly, and the local people; San Diego is sort of a small community, and pretty much I am sure, they keep an eye on who comes and goes; like the guys with the bicicletas to la entrada of San Diego, and this other young guy: His days goes: up and down, riding the bus back and forth selling candies. ( $2, pesos ganancia per bag my mother said, yeap, she is a Sra. de los Mercados, don't get offensive yet, Mr. Busman), he only works the estrecho of San Diego from la entrada to la bocana and on the weekend he is with the bicicleta guys: their turf. People told me. Once they get to know you, that you live in San Diego they do not bother. (But not me condeno, they will send somebody else to do el mandado).

Also, there is a hotel being built in San Diego, the street supposed to be pavimentada at some point. So yes, will be plusvalia; good investment, time will say: Got a Rancho, like "El Cajun". Heaven. I do regret not buying the little property, but the seller did not have a clear title to the property, it took my father seven years to get clear title to his tiny property by the airport, with the seller help all this time; if you friends advice you not too invest; use you judgment: and clear title!. After everybody in my precaria familia jodiendo and who and who and who, they were, also, sorry, for my husband not buying the property. (nor my querida madre ever said, si mi hijita, pensa en ti; and then I said to myself a times: WTF I am going to do with $600 on SS).

I forgot: Do you remember last year Mr. Busman the cows, that somebody descuartizo, they were found somewhere by the main road? Yes, they are cuatreros too. But they were not too giddy, they left the bones, at least to make some sopita, Ozzo Bucco somebody?! Do they left some pellegito too in the bones? I wonder. I remember the cows going by where I was staying, there was nobody arriendo las vacas, bien confiado el maistro or have they escaped?!, they were pretty good looking vaquitas, no mas quesito, crema, lechita...hay las riguas!!; Poor grandma, cannot sell her tortillitas; there is another woman, tortiando up street: she is muy creida, sorry me not buy from her.

So I have this issue with my half sister about la Centroamerica, normally I stay there. It is full of Gangeros she said. Every guy I asked: What?! While not the Escalon, is one of the best colonias; even the champitas are a gated community, let me tell you but use "Your cordura at all times".

So I have read, about, the mines issue, Rio Lempa, el ambiente, Chalate and now is this thing about el Sunzal, nest what? El cerro las Pavas?! that the this hotel wants to block access to the beach, only to their guest...not even Miami Beach does not do such a thing. The beach is Public.

For the person that asked me: I am Salvadorean, my right of birth. I appreciate my country, and my humble people; I have only being in Costa Rica & Guatemala, but not enough time to get their flavor; Panama and Costa Rica welcome "retired people" Visa program, etc. SS offer direct deposit to those countries. I live in the USA, don't know about other countries. "yet".

and sorry sir: your e-mail when "poof" after I read it. Reason by I did not answer, but Thank you. Other fact about El Salvador: Is a Matrialcal Society.

Keep it cool Mr. Busman, now we are two.

Where you the guy that was shirtless at the Hardware at La Libertad, trying to buy a drill? 60 buck for one, not even 18 volts B/d? If I ever go back to El Salvador, I shall bring my taladro manual, $1 a hoyito, but for you three.

Buen dia le de Dios Mr. Busman.

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busman7
5/6/2014 10:38 EST

Wow what a load of bull poo emanating from you two expat Salvadorña, you both have been living in Y'all land too long, better stay there!

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Panchimalca
5/6/2014 10:50 EST

You're in some serious denial! We Salvadorans have embraced the foreign crazies in our country to easily...
I guess next your going to tell me there are no gang issues in El Salvador....

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Panchimalca
5/6/2014 11:01 EST

I thought this website was for constructive dialogue...sharing different opinions on various topics.
Obviously not, since there's always one looney tune that ruins the experience.
Sadly, he lives in my country, the one I've known since the day I was born, he, a mere visitor is now an expert.
It's shameful, that he denies the reality of our country.
I believe people embrace El Salvador for the good and bad it offers.
Regardless of the security situation, I still love it.
I believe discussing the reality of the country is important for awareness sake.
You Mr. Busman can live in your denial all you want, but others may want to the truth. Sadly, San Diego is not the safest place in the country! You may not agree but it is the TRUTH!
There are better beaches than San Diego where many locals prefer to go.
My whole point was, I joined this chat to inform myself on moving personal goods to El Salvador. I made one comment about safety in San Diego and full out, I get wack o doodle attacking me.
Enjoy your life in San Diego hope you stay safe..
Good day...

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busman7
5/7/2014 09:15 EST

Panchimalca is the perfect example of an expat Salvadorña who has been living too long in the US, has NO idea of the reality of the situation in the country but mouths off with fear-mongering posts.

Yes I shall stay safe at Playa San Diego as long as you stay in your adopted Y'all land! Ta ta!

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Panchimalca
5/7/2014 10:29 EST

Who lives in reality....and spends 85% her time in El Salvador...
Not really an expat...but whatever...
The other 15% traveling around the world...
Don't do too many drugs in San Diego, nor become too acquainted with the mareros there, you can be their customer today but gone tomorrow...
Your ranting have clearly shown, you spend a lot of money on Illicit hallucinogenics...

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hiakiko
6/5/2014 08:16 EST

This busman7 person is a total idiot!!! I'm sure you have very intelligent people around you guiding you through, what seems to be a very trying time. I mean most idiots like yourself tend to need people around them to have intellectual conversations. you must be short of friends. Take care!

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busman7
6/5/2014 11:56 EST

Ah hiakiko another Y'all without a clue.

First forum post and what does it do, slag a forum member who it knows nothing about, can't even comment on the thread topic as is ignorant of that also!

Sad mean little person!

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2/14/2016 23:28 EST

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airesflora
2/15/2016 01:40 EST

Panchimalca, you have to forgive Americans. We are ever the optomists! Anyone who has ever lived in El Salvador and LIVED AMONG Salvadorans knows there is a different understanding of El Salvador than what the Americans who hide away in American enclaves and delve into Latino culture, suddenly using words like themselves "gringos" thinking that makes them fit in, understands. El Salvador is dangerous PERIOD! Take that from someone who was rescued by the Salvadoran Police while living there and lived in the same denial. Someone who met gang members face-t0-face AND collaborators, who met a few silly Americans who thought they were living in La La land. And yes, my ex was Salvadoran. In fact he was from Colonia Ilopango, in Santa Lucia. I lived in Salvadoran colonias, all over not American enclaves. And as much b.s. as you want to put out there, I'd listen to the Guanaco. Because as much as you THINK you know...is as much as you likely DO NOT know.

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busman772
2/15/2016 07:40 EST

Wow talk about posters making assumptions (you know what that makes one, eh), not all gringos (your word not mine) are 'muricans, some of us are Canucks.

Comparing San Diego to Llopango is downright silly.

Of course I know nothing as I have only lived in the Planada San Diego 5 yrs, the past 2 with my Salvadorña wife and daughter.

However I do know when some Yáll comes on this forum spreading ignorant BS about my community.

Have a god day with your fantasies.

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airesflora
2/15/2016 15:50 EST

Canadians, Americans, so-called "gringos"...there is little difference in the arrogance. The very idea that you visit another person's country and think you know better than them about it, even if you "have lived there a whopping 5 years and married" one of it's people, should be amusing to most. If it wasn't so sad and dangerous to you.

Nothing wrong with admiring the wonderful country that El Salvador is, enjoying it's feeling, the sights, the people, the traditions. That's what a good tourist or even expatriate does. But to actually THINK you know a country that likely isn't even your own culture? And yes, it isn't tough to figure out you aren't Latino, even if I'm not Salvadoran, as I AM a Latina, so I shared a cultural familiarity with the Salvadoran people and can spot it right away. And that is fine too. One doesn't even have to be Latino to enjoy the fine culture and country of El Salvador.

Yet, even I figured out that living with my Salvadoran ex for NINE years, I didn't understand everything Salvadoran. Because of my Americanized expectations and understandings of things. So, do tell...how did you master both the culture AND the country better than a Guanaco?

But then to have the cajones to try to tell a Guanaco about their own country? Amazing!

Maybe you should take a trip into Colonia Ilopango or Colonia Mexicana, or some of the other places where gang members are prevalent, so you can understand EXACTLY how dangerous they are. Because, if you think they simply hide out in these places, I've got a new concept for you.

It's called deportation and hiding. And guess what? America has deported our gang problems back to El Salvador, where now the same gang members that were tough in the U.S. are hiding and running for their lives to hide identifying tattoos from younger and more eager gang members who hope to murder them and make a name for themselves.

They are seeking places where people like YOU live. Want to know why? They can earn money there, using their English and hide from the predominantly gang infested areas where they will certainly be murdered. Guess how I know that?

Look, if you likely don't even understand how gangs work there and how they blend in, then you are likely in danger. Why? Because the gang members don't jump out at you and say, "Hey Canadian! Guess who I am and why I live here?"

By the way, my ex's mother was an attorney there, and STILL he joined a gang when, and still he joined a gang for survival when came to the U.S. at the age of 14. That's probably shocking to someone like you though, huh! Someone who thinks everyone surrounding him is straight on the up and up?

The truth is, most Americans and Canadians who visit El Salvador go there with great intentions. And the warmth of the Salvadoran people does make you feel very comfortable, no doubt. But, overstep your boundaries? You may get a new Salvadoran lesson, unless you have everyone catering to you as the "rich" Canadian who lives among them.

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busman772
2/15/2016 20:25 EST

Well that was a mighty fine rant with you showing your complete and total ignorance of 2 subjects 1) me 2) Playa San Diego!

Now go back to your fantasyland and let the grownups post.

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Californiatraveller
4/21/2016 14:40 EST

Mr Busman what is your issue? I see you in every post arguing with people trying to convince people to come to San Diego every Salvadorean knows that San Diego is by far one of the worse and dangerous places to go to they even have a jail right on the beach. I have done my research You own a bed and breakfast Rancho Las Brisas , I understand you are trying to get businesses but do not put fellow Americans through risk. You argue and argue with women are you drunk or something buddy? DUDE CHILL stop fighting with the ladies Its a fact San Diego is infested by Maras

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busman772
4/21/2016 20:20 EST

The fact is, you are completely ignorant about Playa San Diego, know nothing about me.

Stop spreading your lies about a nice sandy safe beach, you're just making yourself look foolish to those who know the truth.

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Californiatraveller
4/22/2016 11:30 EST

Checked out SanDiego beach yesterday afternoon !!! It has a lot of potential just like most of the beaches in El salvador. There is a Jail built right on the beach which takes away all the tranquility a tourist is supposed to have I had a beer next door to the jail people stared at me kind of crazy my girl got scared , I kept driving ended up at Monkey la la El Tunco. Met some cool people from Italy and we all took a drive to a gorgeous place called Punta Mango Surf resort which is 4 hours drive going east by el cuco. I totally recommend this spot.

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busman772
4/22/2016 12:09 EST

Gee are you ever confused, what you saw was the Puesto San Diego of the Policia Nacional Civil de El Salvador, in other words the Playa San Diego community police station.

The local holding facility for people picked up for short-term investigation is on CA-2 by the river at Los Flores, the nearest jail is at Santa Tecla.

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Krijama19
4/22/2016 12:43 EST

Thanks for the review. We have been meaning to get to Punta Mango for a getaway. Good stuff! Thanks!

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Californiatraveller
4/22/2016 18:33 EST

Mr Busman here you are again defending San Diego !!! They should make you the Alcalde !!! I was there yesterday nice community but just like any gringo in a unknown land a bit concerned of my girl been scared, I wasn't I wanted to spend a little more time and get to hang out. I understand the situation of this country and I understand that as long as you don t get involved in their business you should be OK. I love learning about different cultures. I have noticed the only place that is actually becoming successful in this country is El Tunco it seems like the business owners are organized and have a different approach to tourist . They seem to mix a bit of the typical Salvadoran and modern decorations, music, foods They are creative, it seems like the business owner have traveled or have gotten the advised from experts, In Costa Rica they have many party places like El Tunco and that is why they are successful people from all over the world spending big cash all over the place. The Salvadorean coast has a vast large territory the place kind of reminds me of Hawaii. So many poor people could benefit out tourism. People needs to be educated about international tourism just like is costa rica everyone in the community benefits out of this even the tortilla lady, I my self prefer small and cozy hostels rather than big luxury hotels but many people here are not that good at running that kind of business I am not talking about you but in many places. My apologies if I said something that might have offended you. I have traveled around the world and when it comes to tourism I really see this country as undiscovered and tourism could really help needy people. Have a great day Mr Busman

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busman772
4/23/2016 07:36 EST

Of course I defend my adopted home from misconceptions, especially when the local community police station, which imo is a good thing to have, is being confused with a jail

I to have travlled the to a lot of the world, one of the places I disliked the most was Americanized Costa Rica with its high prices and surly people serving the public.

El Tunco suits the party animal type of traveller, San Diego those looking for sandy beaches and tranquility, there is a need for both.

The Ministry of tourism is finally starting to promote the beaches at Mahual, La Libertad and San Diego so they get a share of the tourism dollars.

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