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Am I actually a Hungarian dual citizen?

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speedwell
12/9/2012 18:07 EST

Folks, I apologize if this has been answered in previous posts. I can't find much that seems to pertain to my case. Thanks for any answers you can give me to the following questions:

My father was an emigrant to the US in late 1956 or early 1957, and to the best of my knowledge he subsequently naturalized as a US citizen around 10 years later. (I don't know the exact date. My father has since died and I am unable to get his naturalization records because the US gives them only to the naturalized citizen.) I was born in 1966 in the US and I hold US citizenship.

Did my father lose his Hungarian citizenship automatically by naturalizing as a US citizen?
Assuming my father did not lose his Hungarian citizenship through naturalization as a US citizen, and did not renounce his Hungarian citizenship voluntarily, was he still considered a Hungarian citizen until his death a few years ago?
How do I find out whether my father was considered by Hungary to be a Hungarian citizen? What information do I need to supply, and where do I need to write, to establish and verify the facts of my father’s Hungarian citizenship?
Assuming my father was a Hungarian citizen when I was born, am I a Hungarian dual citizen by parentage, according to the Hungarian law that says a person is a Hungarian citizen if their parent was a Hungarian citizen?
If I am a Hungarian citizen under this law, how do I obtain proof of my Hungarian citizenship?

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ilonaandbill
12/10/2012 04:45 EST

I just received my Hungarian citizenship by applying in Budapest. So now I am a dual citizen. So yes, you can now apply in Budapest for your Hungarian citizenship if you speak the language and have documentation of where your parents were born. At least one parent had to be born in Hungary. So you need birth certificate, their marriage and death certificate if any, your birth and marriage certificate and current passport and an address in Hungary to show residency. This can be a rented or purchased place. Address needs to be the same, can't be moving around. Maybe you have an aunt or uncle whose address you can use. You need to apply in person in Budapest. Well worth the effort. My husband and I are retiring to Hungary.

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speedwell
12/10/2012 09:18 EST

That appears to be the information that you would use if you have Hungarian ancestry but your parent was not actually a Hungarian citizen. I am trying to find out if my father was actually a Hungarian citizen when I was born. Do you have any information related to that?

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ilonaandbill
12/10/2012 12:21 EST

Unless your father actually went back to Hungary after the Russians left and re claimed his Hungarian citizenship, he probably was not a Hungarian citizen. BUT if he had birth rights there, you can claim your citizenship. A little complicated with lots of paperwork but worth the try. Another method that Americans are doing in Hungary is to just live there and after they learn to speak the language a little, apply for citizenship on their own. It takes them about as long as getting citizenship in the US.

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westcoa
12/14/2012 01:27 EST

Not so sure it's that simple. My wife who is Hungarian and moved to the states for 15 years and received her US citizenship and is now considered duel still had to go through a process with the embassies to grant our children duel citizenship. One child was born in the states and two were born in Hungary and we still went through the process and paperwork. You can email my wife csiszar.imola@icszeged.hu
and she might be able to explain the procedure in your case.It may be as simple as furnishing your parents birth certificates and applying. Good Luck.

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agentxphoenix
4/30/2013 03:43 EST

No matter who you are or where you were born (or where your parents were born), if you want citizenship, you MUST apply for it with the relevant paperwork. It is never granted automatically unless you were born there.

And to become a citizen of Hungary (which I did last May), you MUST speak Hungarian. I can not stress this enough. You will absolutely be denied (after you've paid fees and done the hoop-jumping) if you do not speak Hungarian.

My father and sister were denied because they did not speak Hungarian, but I do.

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agentxphoenix
4/30/2013 03:45 EST

If you want to know about your father's citizenship, you need to research that. Try family, birth certificates, etc. If the place he's from was a Hungarian territory, he was Hungarian.

You may have a lot of work ahead of you! My great-grandfather was from a little town that was once Hungary, but is now Romania...and it has a different name!

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