peddington
3/7/2016 05:48 EST
As I was cleaning out my files I found the ticket that I was given when my car got booted in District VII two years ago. It lists ALL the reasons you could get booted an earn the privilege of paying 15,000 forints and wait two hours for them to set you free. While this was in district VII I'm guessing it is pretty much the same everywhere in Budapest where it is ALL ABOUT THE MONEY. So here it goes. You can get booted for:
1. Parking facing in the wrong way.
2. Parking the wrong way in a one way street.
3. Parking in a driveway.
4. Parking without parking ticket.
5. Parking during unauthorized times.
6. Parking where no parking is permitted.
7. Parking where no standing is allowed.
8. Parking blocking traffic.
9. Parking in a private parking slot.
10. Parking in a HC slot w/o permit.
11. Parking inappropriately.
12. When you present a hazard.
13. Parking when the district needs the money.
14. Anytime they feel like it.
OK the last two are for grins but you get the idea! I WILL MISS HUNGARY!
No not really....But of course it is no less different than LA, San Francisco or Miami but then again I wouldn't live in those places either!
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tomrock1
3/7/2016 16:24 EST
Think about it this way:
Since you do not pay any Prperty-Tax like in the US and Canada (thank God for that!) somtimes you get a fine. Since I came here almost 2 years ago I got only 1 fine (expensive one and really...). So this is my Prperty-Tax for 2 years and I learned my lesson, it won't happen again! I only park on parking lots and shopping malls, never enter the city center by car District-8 especially, 300 cameras only in this district looking for anything...even if you put garbage next to a trash can (because it is full) you will get a fine...as one neighbour told me. I live at the outskirts of the city and there are no cameras here, no parking meters...nothing (thank god for that!).
Generally speaking, compare to the US the crime rate (violent crimes) here is nothing. Just think about it, in the US any maniac can get a gun! in fact, in the US there are more guns than people.
Now there are elections...Obama was one of the worst presidents in US history and who is gona come next-Trump, Clinton, Cruse...suddenly Orban doesn't look that bad....
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tomrock1
3/7/2016 16:25 EST
Think about it this way:
Since you do not pay any Prperty-Tax like in the US and Canada (thank God for that!) somtimes you get a fine. Since I came here almost 2 years ago I got only 1 fine (expensive one and really...). So this is my Prperty-Tax for 2 years and I learned my lesson, it won't happen again! I only park on parking lots and shopping malls, never enter the city center by car District-8 especially, 300 cameras only in this district looking for anything...even if you put garbage next to a trash can (because it is full) you will get a fine...as one neighbour told me. I live at the outskirts of the city and there are no cameras here, no parking meters...nothing (thank god for that!).
Generally speaking, compare to the US the crime rate (violent crimes) here is nothing. Just think about it, in the US any maniac can get a gun! in fact, in the US there are more guns than people.
Now there are elections...Obama was one of the worst presidents in US history and who is gona come next-Trump, Clinton, Cruse...suddenly Orban doesn't look that bad....
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borschelrh
3/8/2016 01:58 EST
Tomrock, I agree with you completely. I don't go to Budapest often and when I do I use a parking garage or lot without exception. No property tax is just the tip of the iceberg. Medical is so much less here it isn't a concern. When living in the US our taxes and expenses in Virginia ended up eroding our salaries down to a pittance. We were paying $20k a year just in property tax. Don't forget that Hungary also doesn't have a 50% death tax. If you win the lottery here you get to keep all the money. In the US you pay 50% to the US government. The same if you gamble and win at a casino. Here you are not seriously concerned about being killed if you are stopped by a policeman. In the US it is a real concern. Politicians? No comparison at all. At least here they are working to keep out the poor immigrants and muslims. Sorry about it but we are different from them and they belong at home fixing their own problems not bringing them to us.
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peddington
3/8/2016 03:52 EST
OK! I would like to add to your comment on property tax! In Hungary there is a tax but it is called "building/construction tax" or as the Hungarians say "epitmeny ado". No I'm not talking about the 4% or similar that you pay when you purchase. This is a re-occurring yearly "tax" although they don't call it that but it is the same for all practical purposes. Mine is about $100.00 a year so yeah it is nothing like the $1050.00 I pay back home. I should note that I was told that this construction/epitmeny fee/tax does not exist in Budapest (capital city). Why? I'm not sure! If you move to other places like where I live I guess the local authorities set this yearly fee for the privilege of owning a property in their local!
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borschelrh
3/8/2016 05:56 EST
Ped, yes, it is a local tax and pays for the streetlights, snow removal, and flowers etc. I don't put it in the same league as the US property tax, which depending on where you live, can be as high as 4% per year. For example Norwich Connecticut has a tax rate of 4% per year. It depends on the locality in the US so can vary a lot from city to city. We actually, were originally going to retire to Hilton Head Island where I have owned a home for a long time but kept as a rental property. But, after Hurricane Katrina our Hurricane/flood Insurance went to $8,000 per year as did the property tax so we sold that house and moved here to Hungary instead. Paying ±$16,000 a year just to own a house on Hilton Head seemed nuts to me. Our local tax here is 24,300 HUF. No comparison.
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peddington
3/8/2016 08:45 EST
How are you my 'ol friend Bor (Wine in Hungarian)? Hilton Head, S.C.? Isn't that an island? Everything is more expensive on an island, LOL! Yeah 25,000 is cheap for property tax. In Florida I paid $1,500. But after the crash about $1,100. Incidentally we have something called "homestead" and our disabled vet's get additional discount. So no one is arguing that the states is not more expensive BUT, I sure miss a lot of things I'm not able to do/entitled here as an immigrant!
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borschelrh
3/8/2016 09:53 EST
We are fine and doing well. There are a few things but mostly I miss little. Cheap shopping because of those crappy trade deals which moved offshore all the jobs in America, maybe, but really nothing else. Watching this year's election makes me realize how screwed America is and it is going to get a lot worse soon. If Trump is the best (for us "normal" Americans) we are in big trouble. HRC will mean World War III. Same for Cruz and Rubio. Sanders would be neutral but is a wimp so probably couldn't control the Pentagon or CIA from doing their own things which is what they have been doing anyway but with minor constraints. Hungary seems like a blessing to me. When the Euro collapses the Forint is going to a good things to have. I am grateful they never entered the Eurozone. The Schengen advantage is now dead, perhaps permanently so there really is little benefit to being a member of the EU now. I wonder how that is going to go later this year?
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