britmjm
1/17/2015 06:50 EST
I am a 52 year old UK citizen presently living with my Ukrainian wife in Crimea. I am potentially looking to start a new life for us anywhere in the Irish Republic but going on ahead. Initially I would like to rent (a room will be fine) as cheaply as possible on a short term basis (month by month preferable). Any help appreciated. Michael
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FlowerFairy
1/17/2015 17:24 EST
Hi I see you are casting a wide net - Ireland, Malta, Cyprus - any particular reason ROI is included in your list of places to live?
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britmjm
1/19/2015 04:37 EST
Hi. Quite simply at the moment we are not sure and a number of determining factors will result in the final decision. I am a UK citizen and my wife is Ukrainian but draconian (insulting) UK immigration laws will not allow me to bring my wife back with me. However as an EU citizen EU law will allow me to take my wife with me to any EU country to start a new life together. Languages are not my strong point so we have narrowed it down to the 3 (English speaking) countries where we will BOTH feel welcomed. The idea of renting a room is just an idea for me to go on a little ahead of my wife but not then to be compelled to produce infinite proof of income, salary over £18600, savings over 6 months etc etc. I feel quite ashamed to be British that the UK wants to make it so difficult for its own citizens to bring in their foreign spouses (even if that spouse is from such third world countries as the USA, Australia etc). I count myself lucky we have no children which makes it even more evil that the UK forces couples to be apart, unless the said UK citizen stays away from his/her own country. Hope that answers your question? Lol
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Mellis5910
1/19/2015 10:49 EST
Cork is a good choice, I think. I found a link which might be helpful:http://makeitincork.com/living-cork-numbers/ Also, check Daft.ie for a wide choice of properties.
Best of luck!
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britmjm
1/19/2015 10:51 EST
Hey thanks for that. All help is gratefully received. Do you have particular experience of Cork?
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Mellis5910
1/19/2015 12:35 EST
Getting ready to move to Southwest Cork this summer myself and have done tons of research on the area. Lived there briefly and are now planning to retire there ASAP. The people are lovely and helpful and if you choose to live in any of the smaller towns around Cork City, rents are cheaper than living in town. Naturally, Cork City is a bit more expensive than its suburbs but if you don't have a car, it might be the way to go, as it has public transportation and is very walkable, too. Kinsale is a lovely town on the coast just a half hour south of Cork City. It is fun to browse the rentals on Daft.ie, they have maps with each listing so you can scope outthe area. Kenmare in Kerry is another possi bility. Very reasonable rentalprices there. Not sure what your needs are but happy to share what information I have gathered.
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britmjm
1/19/2015 13:33 EST
Thanks again for your help. We might just be in touch with you again. Michael and Eva
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FlowerFairy
1/19/2015 14:53 EST
Very interesting. For other reasons we chose to retire to Ireland rather than the UK. Forgive my ignorance but I thought UK was part of EU obviously they run their own race within the EU. We have dual citizenship - British and Australian. We have been in Oz for 43 years and obviously have a lot to learn! I would have loved to retire in Italy but the main stumbling block was having to do one's driving test in Italian! We traveled to Italy and Ireland last year and loved both!
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britmjm
1/19/2015 15:22 EST
The UK is indeed part of the EU but I am sure you must be aware of how reluctantly in so many ways. The rise of such as the UK independence party means the conservative government is fighting to win votes by playing to the bigoted ill informed public gallery by "combating" immigration. It can do nothing about EU country migration so is (as usual with governments) taking the fight to the easy target i.e. non EU spouses (that includes USA and Australia etc). If you don't earn £18600 minimum as the UK citizen, straight away, no arguments, you cannot bring your spouse to the UK. There are then other restrictions and a list of proofs over time which you must present before given clearance. The ridiculous thing is that you can still enter the UK through the back door by complying with EU law in an EU country for arguably 3 but probably more months (but fewer than what the UK demands) through what is proverbially, unoficially known as the Surinder Singh route. We have looked at this but in all honesty we would prefer to remain in Ireland (or Malta or Cyprus) because I have no desire to live in my home country at ANY point with its delusions of grandeur and propensity for catering to the lowest commom denominator ignorant voting public members. The "immigrants taking our jobs" are much more likely to be working than the idle bigoted oafs the politicians are desperate to win votes from. Sickening. As I say I feel particulary sorry for those couples with children. For each child the UK spouse has to be earning that little bit more for each child for a proven 6 months otherwise no entry. Just look up Surinder Singh on Youtube to see the devastation it has caused to decent law abiding, working people. I know of one case where a woman cannot earn the arbitarily decided annual income so her spouse is not allowed entry , BUT she owns her own house. Ridiculous. And all so the government can state we are doing so much more than Labour ever did. Don't ya just love politicians! Maybe I should get off my soapbox now. Lol
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FlowerFairy
1/19/2015 15:33 EST
I wish you both the best of luck! After 43 years in Oz we are taking a giant leap of faith stepping out of our comfort zone so hopefully there will be enough good luck to share! One last adventure while we have some life left in us! All the best!
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britmjm
1/19/2015 15:40 EST
I admire you both. Stepping out of your comfort zone is never easy but it all adds to those worthwhile memories that nobody (not even the UK government) can deprive you of. All the best to you too. Where in Oz did you live? I have visited Sydney many times, the Gold Coast, Ulhuru and Cairns. I also lived in Townsville for 3 months with a former partner. Loved my time there, but now too old and not sufficiently qulaified in the right areas to apply again. Loved New Zealand too; I lived there for one year on the North Island.
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FlowerFairy
1/19/2015 15:51 EST
Melbourne, Sydney, Auckland, Melbourne, London, Melbourne, Perth, Melbourne, Phillip Island (19 years) Townsville and Magnetic Island (11 years)....time to move on.
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britmjm
1/19/2015 15:58 EST
Beat that! Lol
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RonJpdx
1/20/2015 12:35 EST
Liking this thread. My wife and I are considering retirement in Ireland but we need a lot of help to try and find out the requirements to do so. Are there income requirements, visa application process, where and how to apply etc.? If anyone out there has retired to Ireland from the US we would love to hear from you or if you know the info we are seeking, Thanks, Ron & Tamra.
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FlowerFairy
1/20/2015 13:12 EST
Www.citizensinformation.ie has good info.
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Mellis5910
1/20/2015 15:56 EST
RonJpdx,
Do you or your wife have an Iris parent or grandparent? If so, it will make the whole process a LOT simpler. If you are descended from citizens of any country in the EU, you may be able to obtain citizenship through them and thereby gain the right to legally reside in Ireland.
If that road isn't open to you, it will be a lot tougher, as yes, there are income requirements and lots of red tape.
Below are some links which I hope you'll find helpful: http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/moving_country/moving_to_ireland/coming_to_live_in_ireland/retiring_to_ireland.html
http://www.irishcentral.com/culture/travel/Ten-things-to-know-about-retiring-to-Ireland-from-America.html
Best of luck, Melissa
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