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HiroProtagonist
10/29/2015 22:32 EST

My spouse is an EU citizen, I am not. I am the sole breadwinner. We are considering a move to Ireland in the next 12 months. I understand as the spouse of an EU citizen I have the right to live & work where my spouse lives. As an IT professional, I have no concerns about finding work.

However the majority of the reading I've done on this topic assumes the EU citizen will be the primary breadwinner, so there are some things I'm not 100% sure of.

1) If I have a job offer & they want me to start ASAP - i.e. before we've managed to sell our house, move our stuff etc, is there any way I can start working in Ireland while my wife stays behind tidying up our affairs, or must we both front up in person before I can get permission to work?

2) Would there be any impediment to someone in our situation getting a mortgage?

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Mellis5910
10/30/2015 16:51 EST

If you get a job offer, your employer can get you a work permit, so there should be no problem with you heading over first.

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HiroProtagonist
11/1/2015 15:53 EST

I'm aware that I could get a visa in my own right, but I'm still interested to know if anyone has experience of the scenario I asked about.

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HiroProtagonist
11/1/2015 15:58 EST

Just to clarify a little - one of the advantages of relying on my Spouses EU citizenship is allowing a prospective employer to avoid the delay & uncertainty around applying for a work visa, thus it's easier to get a job [if the other candidates already have permission to work]. that's why I'm interested in this particular scenario.

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Yule
10/15/2016 13:56 EST

Hi HiroProtagonist
Did you end up moving to Ireland? We have the same situation and we're trying to get some clarity on this too.

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CalamityJan
10/16/2016 02:44 EST

What is the orginal question? I might be able to help. I am a non EU spouse to an Irish Citzen.

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Yule
10/16/2016 02:51 EST

Hi CalamityJan
Thanks for your response :)
So I'm an EU passport holder, but my South African husband has a job offer in Dublin. Ideally, we'd like for him to go over first and settle in there while I tie things up here in SA and I'd then follow with the kids in about 3 months. We're struggling to find clear information on whether or not I need to go over with him or if he can go over and apply for a residence card with copies of my passport, etc. He's the main breadwinner, although I'll be looking for a job once I'm there. Did you have a similar situation?

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Meachair54
10/16/2016 10:59 EST

Hello Yule, I'am not in your type of situation , but have been looking for an answer to it. There was a lot of info out there , but some of it wasn't clear on your situation or what to do if your husband arrives before you or what documents he would need , then with your husband being from South Africa that seemed to help the situation but going to another site , there seemed to be a conflict with that. Finally , at Citizens Information.ie they offered to most information but still not exactly in black and white! They give a phone number to clarify any questions , it is. 0761-07-4000 Monday thru Friday 9 am to 8 pm . Good Luck

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Yule
10/16/2016 11:08 EST

Hi Meachair54, gosh, thank you! I have the feeling it's implied that we should travel together, but there's nothing explicit, as you say. I'll call that number tomorrow, thank you. (We tried calling the Irish embassy here, but they couldn't give us a clear answer either.)

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HiroProtagonist
10/25/2016 21:57 EST

I have not yet moved, still getting things organised.

To answer my own question - Both spouses need to be in Ireland in order for the working spouse to get the correct paperwork to allow them to work in Ireland. But as far as I can tell there's no problem with the non-working spouse leaving, as long as they are in country 1 year later when you need to update your paperwork. I'd love to see some more authoritative info on this though.

Also nobody has answered my question about mortgages - any info out there?

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CalamityJan
10/26/2016 02:44 EST

What about mortages?

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Yule
10/26/2016 04:04 EST

Hi HiroProtagonist

Thanks for your answer. We've had so many versions of the story, including three different versions from three phone-calls to the Irish embassy. And other, non-identical versions, from various departments in Ireland too. We've got a meeting with an Irish immigration lawyer (based in Ireland) next week and we should get even more info then.
Sorry I have no info regarding mortgages.

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Yule
10/26/2016 04:04 EST

Hi HiroProtagonist

Thanks for your answer. We've had so many versions of the story, including three different versions from three phone-calls to the Irish embassy. And other, non-identical versions, from various departments in Ireland too. We've got a meeting with an Irish immigration lawyer (based in Ireland) next week and we should get even more info then.
Sorry I have no info regarding mortgages.

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HiroProtagonist
11/4/2016 00:20 EST

See 2) in the original question.

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