SonOfDerry
11/9/2016 10:02 EST
British born and bred, I have lived in Michigan since 1999.
I'd looked into Irish citizenship for me and my son after the UK's EU exit vote, as I wanted my son to have the same options in his bright future as I had.
Now after the vote to install the orange one in the US, we're bringing to an abrupt halt my 17 year life in the US. It's because we don't want our son growing up in a country that would vote him into power.
Please note: Not here for a political discussion, whether you agree with our decision or not, please keep on topic.
We are of limited means but both adults are hard working and can adapt to any customer service type position especially one with a heavy IT element. I can speak German fluently and can dabble in other European languages.
We're thinking that living close to Dublin would make sense for the larger number of opportunities, although I'd love to be close-ish to Derry where my da is from.
Any thoughts on where we should look for our family to have a good landing in the Emerald Isle?
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kldelk
11/9/2016 11:35 EST
I applaud your decision but be cautious since Brexit, non eu folks are no longer easily adopted by Ireland--we (US citizens) got booted out just this July after having lived there for a year and a half and having moved there when the rule said you just needed to be able to support yourself. We were tempted to apply for political assylum because of Trump but since he wasn't ALREADY elected, we couldn't--Now we are stuck here but even though you were born in Britain and might be able to go to Ireland NOW, once their Brexit stuff takes effect it might be a different story--Just be cautious and read up as much as you can and don't trust that INIS (Irish Immigration )will tell you anything useful until you are already there and invested--anyway, just be careful and good luck--think I"m going to the Southern Hemisphere--the 'white world' is blowing up around us and I'm sick of it.
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Muddled
11/9/2016 12:43 EST
If I read your post coorectly, am not clear on how you could get Irish/EU ccitizenship with UK citizenship (unless born in Northern Ireland).
It's not easy to get permission to live here (read threads on this and other expat sites), and working here is even trickier.
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Muddled
11/9/2016 12:43 EST
If I read your post coorectly, am not clear on how you could get Irish/EU ccitizenship with UK citizenship (unless born in Northern Ireland).
It's not easy to get permission to live here (read threads on this and other expat sites), and working here is even trickier.
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Muddled
11/9/2016 12:44 EST
If I read your post coorectly, am not clear on how you could get Irish/EU ccitizenship with UK citizenship (unless born in Northern Ireland).
It's not easy to get permission to live here (read threads on this and other expat sites), and working here is even trickier.
Is the UK an option you would consider?
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HiroProtagonist
12/7/2016 21:45 EST
As a UK citizen, he will be able to live & work in Ireland regardless of Brexit, because of the UK Irish Common Travel Area, which predates the E.U.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Travel_Area#British_citizens_in_Ireland
Once he has live in Ireland the requisite number of years, citizenship by naturalisation becomes an option.
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FlowerFairy
12/7/2016 22:26 EST
If you are a UK citizen why not go directly to NI and take things from there. If you lived in one of the border towns on the north side eg County Down, commuting to Dublin would not be that difficult. Then once settled you could see the lie of the land once Brexit has been brought into affect. There may also be opportunities in the North. I say little steps, little steps do the easy yards first and take it from there. If NI first, you won't have to worry about any rules after Brexit being a UK citizen already. Good Luck. Frankly, there are so many UK people resident in the ROI I cannot see any retrospective steps being taken once Brexit is in effect. For the life of me I cannot understand why US citizens have so much trouble, I thought with the historical Irish/American connections, ROI would have welcome US citizens with open arms.
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intrepid
12/21/2016 11:20 EST
As I understand it, you should be able to apply for Irish citizenship by virtue of descent (i.e. you father). Once granted you can simply move to Ireland. It might be a good idea to move immediately to NI and apply from there. Apparently, there is a move on to get residents of NI who are eligible for Irish citizenship to apply.
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Joshuak
1/17/2017 23:31 EST
I agree with "FlowerFairy" and Intrepid. I lived in Enniscorthy for a year and met several people from Northern Ireland, including My Dentist in Enniscorthy that got ROI passports just for the asking. Your problem is solved. I am a Dual so if the "orange one" gets too far out of line, I can hop on a plane. But since I never worked in Ireland, there would be no medical card. One has to be careful what you wish for.
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CalamityJan
1/18/2017 10:24 EST
Granting of Medical cards is done on a medical/financial needs base. You have to qualify, If you are a citizen then you can apply whether you lived here a day or a year. It may require letters from you GP and medical history.
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FlowerFairy
1/18/2017 14:57 EST
From memory if you had somewhere around E72,000.00 or less in the bank, you could apply for a medical card.
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Joshuak
1/18/2017 17:18 EST
Maybe they changed the rules, but when I lived there (2013 - 2015) I could not get a medical card for Ireland. The only thing we were given is a EU medical card that could give emergency care when travelling in any OTHER EU country. I retired from IBM which gave me a medical plan which was primary when I was outside the US. However in 2014 they changed that plan to a monetary stipend of limited amount, so I had to get a Medicare advantage plan that gave me limited emergency care outside the US as long as I returned every 6 months for a checkup. If Ireland now say 72,000 Euro savings, I would not qualify. My retirement investments exceed that multiple times. We have IRA /401 k investments in annuities that provide monthly income plus our Social Security. But the invested amounts remain constant so I imagine they would count that as "In the Bank". Perhaps that is why they are trying to eliminate people that did not work there and contribute to the medical insurance system by requiring 50,000 Euro income. If one had this kind of income they certainly would end up paying Irish income tax. I noticed the Irish systems of social welfare did provide some benefits that were abused such as "THE DOLE". I would see a bunch coming from the local pubs certain days of the week to get their handout. Most of them were young worker age. But my neighbor's 48 year old son who was visiting his mother told me he knew some of that crowd and they graduated from high school with him and have been on the dole every since. And at that time the DOLE was 188 Euro a week.
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Muddled
1/18/2017 23:06 EST
For several years now there has been a Habitually Resident.Condtion as part of the medical card and social welfare eligibility; you'd have to be living in Ireland at least a year before you're eligible.
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