bflanagan
1/7/2017 14:41 EST
Hello; I am brand new here; great forums; I am a 48-year old American citizen living in the USA. I would like to retire to Ireland in approximately 16--18 years. I am of Irish descent through my paternal grandparents and am just starting the process to obtain my Irish Citizenship. Having read the forum on US non-EU expats getting kicked out for not having enough money has convinced me to obtain my Irish Citizenship and passport so that can not happen. Has anyone else from the USA obtained their citizenship through their grandparents ? Is it better to do it on your own or go through an agency; I found http://www.morrigan.com/ which will obtain my gr-father's long-form birth certificate for $280; however I found another site where I can get it for 40 Euro; I just don't want to be ripped off; I work for state government and believe I can do this on my own but also have heard it's very difficult doing this on your own with the irish government; any advice/stories/warnings welcome; thanks Brian F .
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Muddled
1/7/2017 16:08 EST
You cando it yourself if you have access to one grandparent's birth certs.
I got mine about 22 years ago. My grandmother's birth was never registered (she was from an island where it was customary not to) but I was able to get her baptismal cert. The rest was getting marriage, death and birth certs to show the lineage. I personally don't see any.point to using an agency.
I wish you well!!
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bflanagan
1/7/2017 16:24 EST
Thank you; I believe I will do it myself; I know exactly where/when my irish gr-father was born and have actually been to Ireland twice; I still have a living relative there; also have family cemetery in County Roscommon; I'm weird in that I love rain/cold/overcast skies but also rainbows ! Cheers !
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Mauraoleary
1/7/2017 18:40 EST
Hi! If you have dual citizenship there is no other requirement to live here. Your income is not an issue as you will be a citizen of Ireland. I only peek on this forum now occasionally as I find so much inaccurate information being passed through posts.
I obtained my paternal grandmothers birth certificate. and marriage certificate.
My dads birth certificate.
My birth certificate and my marriage certificate.
I contacted the Irish Consulate in Boston and it was a fairly straight forward process. After obtaining my dual citizenship I applied for and received my Irish passport.
Within a year I was here looking for a house and have been very happy living here ever since..
Don't hesitate. Just do it!
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FlowerFairy
1/7/2017 19:09 EST
I totally agree! Just do it! My brother has always wanted a house in France but "the time is not right". I tell him the time is never right, just do it! I fear he has left it too late as now grandchildren are on the scene and something tells me he will now never do it. Such a shame to let his dream go. Just do it! Best of luck!
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Meachair54
1/7/2017 20:39 EST
Hello Bflanagan , Don't waste your time or money going through companies that say they will take all the worries out of getting the proper papers from Ireland pertaining to your grandparents. In my case that was the easiest part of obtaining dual citizenship, as long as you know their D.O.B. , county where born and maiden names of the mother or wife as it pertains to the questions on the Foreign Birth Registry forms. Obtaining both sides of my grandparents birth certificates took less than three weeks . You just need one Irish born G.P. birth certificate or marriage certificate if married in Ireland . The hardest part of the process was getting the other required forms from N.Y.S. . The whole process of getting citizenship after sending all the paperwork to Ireland took eight weeks, today will take longer due to Great Britain leaving the E.U. After getting my citizenship paper getting my passport took less than a month . Once again save you money and use it to buy your own certicates needed to get your citizenship , they are a rip off ,do it yourself. GOOD LUCK !!!!!!!!!
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5thof8
1/7/2017 20:41 EST
Do it your self. Get the birth certificate long form from the county records in Ireland. Get your long form to keep the relationship on record verified. Basically do not be afraid at the Irish Embassy in NY or Washington for further information. It will take a month or more if you do it right and I am sure you will.
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DebAckley
1/11/2017 19:32 EST
Hi! My maternal grandfather was from Ireland...I ended up going through irishcitizenship.com ( or net). It's out of CA. I was teaching and just did not have the time to get everything. I was lucky as my wonderful aunt was able to obtain my grandfather's death certificate for me (in NY I couldn't get it...only spouses and children). Dual was able to obtain his birth certificate, yes it cost me a few pennies, but when I got the papers that said I was an Irish citizen, and then my Irish passport...I cried.
We recently retired and we tried to buy a place in Ireland ( Co Kerry) but the mortgage system right now is so tight....the banks only make 2% on a mortgage...they wouldn't count my teacher pension or SS...it wasn't earned income. My advice, save as much as you can, so you can pay cash. I'm playing the lotto here in NY and maybe our Irish dream of a place in the homeland will come true! Best wishes! Cheers!
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CalamityJan
1/12/2017 08:51 EST
http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/moving_country/moving_to_ireland/coming_to_live_in_ireland/retiring_to_ireland.html
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dave8408e
1/12/2017 11:55 EST
While this section may apply to those lucky enough to have dual citizenship, the information on the Citizens Info web page is incorrect when it says that people normally resident in Ireland are entitled to health care. Retirees from non-EU/EAA states cannot avail themselves of the Irish health care system and must carry their own insurance and prove they have same when they apply for an annual residency stamp. Rule One for anyone coming to Ireland: Do not rely on Citizen's Info web info for accurate information -- only go by the info provided by INIS, the Irish Nationalisation and Immigration Service.
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Joshuak
1/15/2017 17:26 EST
Hello, I have dual Irish - USA passports via my Mother who was born there. However, My children wanted to get Passports and only my oldest Son did so far. I lived there for almost a year (2013 -2014) and did some digging for more relatives and wanted marriage and death certificates. They are available in Dublin from the government, but someone has to do the searches as they do not do it for you. And forget about the Catholic Churches. Local parishes do not have records anymore. It is not similar to US. The bureaucracy can be a problem. Takes forever to get anything. I needed a TV license and it took 4 months to get it. I had to get PPS card first, then TV license. I would advise any American to rent a place for a year or so and get all the paperwork settled before you think about buying. I myself would not live there full time. Once you do, you will find there are many things you do not have that you do here in US. You will not get a pension, or a medical card for Ireland (You will get EU medical card for traveling) A drivers license is required after one year and you have to start as "Junior" license which makes insurance very high. It took me 23 days to open a checking account. The banks are not easy to deal with, but in general one needs a checking account to get services such as phone, electricity, internet, Etc. Nice place to visit, but not as good as US to live in my opinion. My wife and I did use Ireland as a base and traveled all over Europe. We enjoyed our stay, but find it better back home in US.
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DebAckley
1/15/2017 19:41 EST
I went thru a Irish citizenship site in California... I was working at the time& they did a great job of obtaining all the docs... Then I got my Irish passport... I cried l.. It is a tribute to my grandparents who I never met...
If you plan on moving... Have cash for a home... We came home as the Central Bank does not consider pensions/SS/ etc as earned income.. Love my homeland ??????????
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