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elcolejr
2/9/2017 16:49 EST

My wife and I (both retired) are planning a move to Ireland in Sept. of 2017 for at least a year. We plan to rent a house in either Kinsale or if that doesn't work out, Clonakilty. One of the biggest issues right now is that we want to bring our two indoor cats. Not only are there very few houses for rent in either place, most do not want pets. My plan is to board the cats when we get to Cork, rent an inexpensive B&B for a couple of weeks and look for a rental. We would be fine with a normal terraced house- we are not picky. I've gone from super excited to thinking that we might not be able to find a place just because of the cats. Are we going to find more places when we get there than I'm seeing on the realty websites?

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dballing
2/9/2017 18:07 EST

I can only speak from my experience in Dublin.

Prepare for pain.

Finding a place that checked the various boxes for my wife and I *AND* which would take our two small dogs was a nightmare. We got lucky, eventually, and found the most awesome place ever, but I am terrified of losing this place and having to go back out on the hunt for a replacement.

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FlowerFairy
2/9/2017 18:20 EST

Hello, We brought our cat with us from Australia. Yes, it was very difficult. Sorry to say, one other thing we found was the catteries are not good. I am not saying across the board but we found in South West Cork (and one was in Clonakilty) standards not high. We used to put George with Kittys Cattery (Lisa Tivey) www.kittyscattery.ie in Kealkill outside of Bantry. Rentals are very difficult (and expensive) in general. We were in Ireland for 16 months, based mainly on Sheepshead Peninsula and literally went from one holiday rental to the other. We did manage to find a 6-monthly holiday let through winter but had to vacate before the season began. Agent was Elaine Spillane of peninsula.ie. Very helpful but area may be remote for your purposes. Arriving in September is a good time as the season has finished and you will probably find something from September to March at hopefully winter rates. We arrived in February and managed to find a 3-month holiday rental to start us off. Hillcrest Farm (Agnes and Joe) www.ahakista.com. Hillcrest says no pets but they had people before we came with a couple of cats so that opened the door for us. We stayed at their rental bungalow which they rent out longer term which may or may not suit. Ahakista is about half way down the Sheepshead Peninsula. A stunningly beautiful area but may be a little remote for you. Bantry 20mins. Skibbereen 40mins. Clonakilty 60mins. Happy for you to mention me (Irene Hay) if you contact either Elaine (Peninsula.ie) or Agnes (Hillcrest Farm). Once on the ground you may get lucky. We returned to Australia June 2016. Good Luck!

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hereineir
2/10/2017 08:23 EST

First of all, are you sure that you will be able to stay in Ireland for a year? I was denied, as were many others, for not meeting the very strict financial criteria. Others have been more fortunate. I would make sure you'll be allowed in for that length of time before going any further. Secondly, I don't know about Kinsale, but I rent a fantastic 3 bdrm, 2 ba house on acreage with a pond and a river, seclusion but with nearby neighbors, about a mile from the village of Ballydehob, a warm, friendly and fun place. The cost for me is 750€/mo, and it is pet friendly. The landlord has many, many houses that he rents out for varying lengths of time, and is a delight to deal with. He can be reached via email at info@irishstonehouses.ie, and is named Vincent Coughlan. Now, CHEER UP!!

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hereineir
2/10/2017 08:39 EST

Re: Flower Fairy's post - I originally arrived Ireland in May 2015. I found a holiday home that was pet friendly online before coming over. Owner agreed to let it to me for one year, as I thought Ireland would be thrilled to have me, a self supporting American retiree. I prepaid for that year, something I wouldn't do again, but, I really wanted this place, which also happened to be on Sheep's Head, south of Kilcrohane. We signed a contract, allowing my dog, which, due to her health, I decided not to bring over after all. The area was lovely, the landlady a nightmare, and we mutually agreed to end our contract after just a few months. (Unfortunately, just 2.-1/2 months after arriving, I had to be hospitalized for nearly 3 months after having open heart surgery in Cork. When I found out that I would be recuperating all winter in the house, I adopted a small dog from the Cork rescue. I notified the landlady that I would be bringing a small dog home when released from hospital, and her head exploded! She would not allow me to bring this little dog home, when I had permission to have a dog written into the contract. So, as I say, we mutually agreed to end my tenancy, and she returned every penny of rent I had paid.). Sheep's Head is fantastic, but, yes, remote, and really difficult to live on unless you have a car. There are taxis and a twice weekly bus to Bantry otherwise.

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FlowerFairy
2/10/2017 15:14 EST

Ballydehob is a great spot on the Mizen Peninsula (across from Sheepshead). You should check out the Roaring Water Journal as the person who does this blog lives in the area too. Wish we had known about Irish Stone houses, though to be fair we were looking to purchase our retirement home and did not want to lock in a long term lease (in hindsight, that is what we should have done) as we thought we would purchase fairly soon. Hah!

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hereineir
2/10/2017 15:16 EST

I've been living in Ballydehob for a year and a half, so I'm very familiar with Roaring Water Journal... great stuff! I have met the lady involved at a community gathering as I volunteered with the community council, but don't know her really. It is a great little town ....

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Daphniefluff
2/13/2017 17:59 EST

We are hoping to move to Ireland later this year, our plan is to buy a home for us and a rental property, as a supliment to our pensions, and although it might not help you, (well it might) we will be a pet friendly rental, we are certainly hoping to be settled before September, so watch this space if you still need a rental home. DF

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dave8408e
2/14/2017 07:37 EST

...which brings up a question I've long wondered the answer to: If, as a Stamp 0, we're not allowed to own or start a business, or work at a job, is owing a rental property to supplement income OK with INIS? Would that income count towards the amount INIS requires per year, or be disallowed? Curious...

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KevinfromKinsaleviaNYC
2/14/2017 10:41 EST

Far be it for me to give legal advice in any jurisdiction but I have heard and read that owning income-producing real estate is permitted for foreigners (non-EEA persons) having no residency permission in Ireland.

It seems that real estate is treated differently than other industries in this respect. Lots of tricks I am sure to structuring these types of investments so let the buyer beware!

As far as getting INIS to give you credit for the income, your guess is as good as mine as, sadly, there appears to be no specific guidelines for what types of income are considered "good" or "bad", as I have mentioned in previous posts.

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KevinfromKinsaleviaNYC
2/14/2017 10:50 EST

In my comments to the Ministry's recent public review of the proposed changes to Stamp 0, I specifically requested that they outline what types of investment activities are permitted. Needless to say, I am still waiting for their response.

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Daphniefluff
2/14/2017 16:46 EST

Weeeeeel, we are probably slightly different in that my husband was born in Dublin, and my father was Irish, so we have automatic rights of admission to Ireland, we are going over at the begin giving of March, and intend to find out lots more, if we can do it person to person, I think things are a lot clearer.

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