mjc60s
3/20/2017 14:28 EST
Wondering if there is anyone out there who has applied for Irish citizenship through descent in the last 2 years, since the US consulates no longer process these requests. Would like to know if anyone had discrepancies in their US docs - Irish parent's or grandparent's US marriage or death certificates that contradicted the Irish birth certificate information & did this cause problems in getting approved for citizenship.
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DebAckley
3/20/2017 17:11 EST
I went thru dual irish citizenship by quinn...I"m not sure if they are still in business....they were out of California....I was able to send all my docs to them and they got my grandfather's birth certificate from Belfast. Got the FBR within 2 months.
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Meachair54
3/20/2017 19:16 EST
Hello Mc60s,
Could you be more specific or give an exact reason why you need to know. It's been years since procuring my dual citizenship. My GF birth certificate and birth date on his U.S. documents are off by a week, but that was common back in the 1860's . The birth of a child and putting the birth on or registering it with the state on paper and or with the church was by word. Of mouth and dates were mixed up between birth dates and baptism dates , but that was a minor mixup that didn't affect the process. Other document mistakes could make a difference in obtaining citizenship of Ireland, that is one of the reasons for certified state copies. To give you an exact answer, we would have to know what kind of problem if any you have..
Just to let you know you can obtain dual citizenship by getting all the documents on your own and following the instructions of the Foreign Birth Registry . . Don't pay hundreds and hundreds of dollars to someone else when you can do it on your own. Good Luck !
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mjc60s
3/20/2017 19:32 EST
All of the US docs are certified long-form docs as required by Ireland. On his death certificate, his son, my uncle-long gone, gave the wrong name of GF's mother - as far as I know, no one in the family ever had any idea what GF's parents names were - I just found out when I found marriage info from the WI church where he was married and then on the certified marriage certificate. WI tells me I may be able to correct the info via a court order. Also, his Irish birth registration -which also of course gives his parent's names - gives DOB as June 1870, but upon arrival in the US in 1891 he, from then on, gave his DOB as July 1872 -baptismal date on birth info is shown as July - so that's prob where the incorrect month came from. I'm hoping the 2-year DOB difference will not be a problem as Irish birth registration and record of death for both parents show they were illiterate and I think actual DOBs were not something people back then really thought much about. Also GF's mother's surname is slightly different on his WI marriage certificate from her name on his DOB Irish doc. But again, I am hoping, this will not be an issue given they were illiterate. Main concern is the wrong mother name on GF death cert & some concern re the DOB year. So glad to hear any thoughts/experience on these differences.
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Meachair54
3/20/2017 21:43 EST
Hello Mjc60s,
The wrong name on GF death certificate shouldn't be a problem ,you need death certificate to show the lineage going from your GF to your father ,to you, you have all the other documents from GF ( birth , marriage, death certificate.s) . Like you said the dates from the Irish certificates to the U.S. certificates are not that uncommon ,plus they can tell with the Irish certificates then looking at the U.S. Death certificates who was married to whom , the GF mothers name doesn't really matter on the U.S. Document, Ireland has the name on your GF iIrish birth certificate. If you have your fathers document and of course yours you would be all set to send the documents after you fill out the FBR application. Just make sure you get your own proof of who you are ( priest, lawyer,or police officer ) signature on your application. Once again , Good Luck !
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Joshuak
3/21/2017 22:47 EST
It would be best if you have US passport to send in also for proof of who you are. I got my first Irish passport about 30 years ago and they asked for my US passport. I was automatically a citizen since my Mother was born there, but of course I had to prove it.
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