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lovelyrita
7/13/2017 21:16 EST

Has anyone found a decent resource for creating a budget? My husband and I want to spend 3 or so months in Ireland, probably Cork and I'm trying to make a budget but don't really have a good feel for expense.

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lovelyrita
7/13/2017 21:55 EST

I found this! I wonder how accurate? https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/in/Cork?displayCurrency=USD

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FlowerFairy
7/14/2017 00:54 EST

Hello, if you are only going to spend 3 months you may be being too analytical. We spent 16 months in Ireland 2015/2016 (based in West Cork: The Sheepshead Peninsula) with Bantry, Skibereen and Conalkilty being our main shopping areas for food etc. On our return to Australia we found the prices here more expensive than in Ireland. If you are only staying 12 weeks or so I would estimate what you spend a week and add on a percentage (with funds in a back up account if necessary). Your main expense will be renting. Very difficult and expensive from Easter until September. You will need a car too if living out of a main town. 12 weeks? Just go for it. Good Luck

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Joshuak
7/14/2017 09:11 EST

numbeo.com is fairly good for a start. Actually, summer rental in Cork can be cheaper than winter because of the college rentals not needed as much in summer. Car rental is also a big budget item. If you could get by with occasional car rental and use public transport the rest of the time you would be better off. I lived there for about 1 1/2 years as I am Dual Irish - US citizen, and I bought and sold 2 used cars during that time period. You probably will need to get used to standard shift cars as automatics are had to find from rental agencies and cost a lot more. I do not recommend buying a car for as short as 3 or even 6 months unless you plan on coming back and can find a place to store it when gone. Problem will be car insurance. It is hard enough to get for a full year. Another variable will be the exchange rates. Euro went from $1.07 to $1.14 in the past few months. Was $1.30 when we were living there in 2013 - 2015. If you must buy health insurance it can be quite expensive i.e. $800 a month per person. However, even though medicare does not cover outside the US, most Medicare Advantage plans do up to a specific limit. AARP Medicare Complete, or Humana, or Wellcare give $25,000 to $50,000 for emergency care outside the US which might cover evacuation back to your home county if you have a Primary Care Doctor that is willing to let you go for as long as 6 months. Most Medicare Advantage plans require you to be gone 6 months or less, so you would have to plan on coming back for checkups before the 6 month limit. If you need more info write me via private message.

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lovelyrita
7/14/2017 13:53 EST

Thanks!

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lovelyrita
7/15/2017 08:04 EST

We are planning now for next year. The rough plan is to live in Cork 3-6 months and use it as a hub for an extended exploration of Ireland and perhaps extend to some European cities as well. We will both be dual US-Irish citizens by then if all our paperwork is complete which I'm also working on now. We also have to consider health issues that require us to live somewhat near a hospital due to occasional emergency need. I like the idea of renting cars and using public transportation as needed for short trips. I'm personally afraid I'd forget which side of the road to drive on! Maybe I should shoot for April - September. Not sure yet.

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lovelyrita
7/15/2017 10:10 EST

Thanks Flower Fairy. I have to plan because I need to tend to some things at home while overseas.

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Joshuak
7/15/2017 10:41 EST

Since you have the need for a Hospital close by, Cork is probably the best choice. My Mother was born there and immigrated to US in 1929 at age 16 with her whole family. Public transport is very good in Cork. I spent two 4 week periods in the Cork area and did not rent a car unless I was going outside the city. Once you get the passports, PSC / PPS number, and a Irish mailing address, and if you are over 65 (I think) you can get the FREE travel perk on the Public Service Card. You can use all the buses and trains in Ireland for free except special express route buses. If you don't qualify, buy weekly or monthly passes. Car rental can be expensive during the tourist season, and get used to driving standard shift (With your left hand) as that may be all you can rent. The biggest threat to US drivers is not so much wanting to drive on the right, but is to not having a good idea where the left front side of your car is on the narrow roads. Ask any rental agent what part of the car gets damaged most and they will tell you the left front fender. When you first start driving there, especially on narrow 2 lane roads, you hope there is a center line painted on that road so you know where your car is in relation to the left shoulder. You kind of get the feeling you are playing "Chicken" when a large truck is coming at you from the opposite direction. It will wear off in a few weeks of driving as you get used to it. By the way, US drivers are no better or worse than other European drivers that normally drive on the right. We all have the same situation. Unless you are driving at 2 am when there is little or no traffic on the roads, you will not have a problem with going the wrong direction at "round-a-bouts". There are some shared kitchen apartments available in Cork tied to the colleges where you rent a private room with bath and share the kitchen and common area in Summer when there are no classes. But during season when schools are going, it can be tough to find something acceptable. If you start to look for something year round, suggest you walk up Blarney Street one evening after 8 pm and visit some of the pubs. Look for a single older lady that might be there for the music and not drinking so much and strike up a conversation about if she knows about anything for long term rent available. If you do that, make sure you let her know you are a dual citizen, just a descendant "returning". You would be surprised what just talking to the people will get you. But be careful about online ads for rentals in Cork. Some are really bad people waiting to Rip you off. Check them out very well before sending deposits. Airbnb would be my last choice as I use Booking.com much more often for short rentals. As mentioned in some other posts, rental agents are not always nice people. I would much more trust the Lady in the PUB than most agents. We ended up with a 1 year lease in a retirement community in Enniscorthy over in Wexford County which was a great deal. Brand new single family 2 bedroom houses completely furnished with everything included except electric and phone/internet for 500 Euro a month. I think now they must be full and more money as 500 now is unheard of.

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lovelyrita
7/15/2017 12:49 EST

Wow. Thanks for the detailed response. Thank goodness for Our Lady of the Pub. LOL. "You would be surprised what just talking to the people will get you." - that's what I grew up with, in an Irish Catholic family. So did my husband-so I will find it familiar. It's a nice way to be. I won't quite qualify next year for the reduced fare (64). I was also considering Galway, near where one of my grandparents hailed. Galway is very popular now isn't it? But I'm not sure of their hospital services availability. Also, Dublin of course would be too expensive.

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lovelyrita
7/15/2017 12:49 EST

Wow. Thanks for the detailed response. Thank goodness for Our Lady of the Pub. LOL. "You would be surprised what just talking to the people will get you." - that's what I grew up with, in an Irish Catholic family. So did my husband-so I will find it familiar. It's a nice way to be. I won't quite qualify next year for the reduced fare (64). I was also considering Galway, near where one of my grandparents hailed. Galway is very popular now isn't it? But I'm not sure of their hospital services availability. Also, Dublin of course would be too expensive.

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lovelyrita
7/15/2017 12:49 EST

Wow. Thanks for the detailed response. Thank goodness for Our Lady of the Pub. LOL. "You would be surprised what just talking to the people will get you." - that's what I grew up with, in an Irish Catholic family. So did my husband-so I will find it familiar. It's a nice way to be. I won't quite qualify next year for the reduced fare (64). I was also considering Galway, near where one of my grandparents hailed. Galway is very popular now isn't it? But I'm not sure of their hospital services availability. Also, Dublin of course would be too expensive.

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FlowerFairy
7/15/2017 19:31 EST

Hi lovelyRita - I know life keeps intruding into plans but sometimes one just has to take a 'leap of faith'. Too much thinking can sometimes get in the way of dreams. Go for it!

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FlowerFairy
7/15/2017 19:44 EST

We were hoping to retire (sold up everything in Australia) but it did not work out. At least we say we tried and not spend the rest of our lives wondering "what if?". We managed inbetween house hunting to do a few trips: eg Israel, Cuba, Altea, Barcelona, Prague, Ostuni,. You have mentioned a few places Cork would be good as a base but also Kenmare in Co Kerry is a lovely spot with easy access to both the west coast and not too far from Cork. Remember: not to much thinking.....just leap!

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lovelyrita
7/16/2017 16:29 EST

Flower Fairy,
Sounds like you had some lovely destinations. I used to leap when I was younger. But life circumstances prevent that now. I have responsibilities to people who depend on me at home, as well as health issues. So leaping into the unknown would be unwise. LOL. But yes, I agree - overthinking can ruin a situation. :)

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FlowerFairy
7/16/2017 20:07 EST

Yes, I know! Keep the dream alive and I am sure you will have a lovely Irish experience with memories to last a lifetime!

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Muddled
7/23/2017 06:35 EST

To be eligible for "Free Travel" (and other Irish Social Welfare entitlements) the Habitual Residency Condition would need to be satisfied initially; PRSI contributions may also be required.

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Joshuak
7/23/2017 22:47 EST

PRSI not needed for free travel plus spouse, free TV license, and Credit on Electric bill. Just fill out the application. But as noted you need a residence address and PPS number. .

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lovelyrita
7/24/2017 02:30 EST

What is PPS number?

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FlowerFairy
7/24/2017 02:42 EST

Personal Public Service Number (basically used for buying certain things: houses, motor vehicles, opening bank accounts etc). Put simply it identifies you for the Tax Office and legitimises financial purchases. You need one but very easy to obtain. We applied from Australia before travelling to Ireland and had no problem.

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Joshuak
7/24/2017 08:10 EST

FlowerFairy: you are providing false information. A PPS number and PSC must be applied for in person while a citizen or Resident resides in Ireland and has a need for said documents. To buy a car or any other commercial financial transaction a PPS number is not needed. PPS number is only needed for Irish Government social services and taxation purposes. The only non government use is one must give PPS number to employer when they start work so the employer can start taking taxes out of the salary. IT IS ONLY USED FOR GOVERNMENT PURPOSES. I will not say you are incorrect that you did get a PPS number while living outside Ireland as some strange things do happen, but the only way one can get those documents without a face to face appointment now, is if one is involved in a probate action in courts and one lives outside Ireland. (so they can collect taxes) A Public Service Card has your picture on it and picture is taken at the office where you apply. That is where we got ours in 2014. LOOK AT "Citizens Information.ie". It tells you all about it.

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FlowerFairy
7/24/2017 09:53 EST

We only had PPS Nos and found we needed them for quite a number of transactions as apart from anything else it is a form of identification. A solicitor in Ireland forwarded the PPS application form to us (though we could have got it online) and we had no trouble obtaining our PPS Nos while in Australia, we just filled in what information we had.

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Muddled
7/24/2017 13:12 EST

Citizenship is not enough for many of the benefits you refer to
For instance, an applicant needs to be in receipt of social welfare for free travel, etc.
http://www.welfare.ie/en/Pages/780_Free-Travel.aspx

Also, for an EHIC from Ireland an applicant DOES

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Muddled
7/24/2017 13:15 EST

A PPSN and proof that you are either on SW or have been paying taxes and PRSI are required to obtain and EHIC.

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lovelyrita
7/24/2017 13:32 EST

Thanks to all. I was referring to the Senior Citizen benefit for free travel. According to what I've read it is available. Namaste.

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Joshuak
7/24/2017 14:31 EST

Sorry Muddled, I should have mentioned this free travel is for seniors over either 65 or 70 (Not sure which age) Perhaps you thought I meant all ages ? But if one has a Irish passport and residence in the country, they are eligible for free travel as long as they are over that age. I met many other EU seniors that had moved to Ireland that also had free travel on their PS card. And by the way, if you have the FT+S on a Irish PS Card, it is valid for all public transport in Budapest Hungary, and discount tickets on Lithuanian Train system. In those countries it is a EU senior benefit. Not sure what other countries have that. Bucharest Romania gives free travel to the seniors in only residents of that city so far. It is under consideration for all other EU seniors.

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Joshuak
7/24/2017 15:14 EST

FlowerFairy, I am sorry you do not have the correct information, but what you are saying is NO LONGER TRUE, and has not been for some time. If you would take the time to look at "Citizen information.ie" you can look it up. It is all there in Black and white. One cannot obtain a PPS number or PS Card without going to a Government office IN PERSON. One has to make a appointment and they will take your information, take your picture, and send the card with the PPS number to the postal address you had to have proof of, and you go home and wait for the postman. They do not do it any other way NOW except in the case of a probate action in court. They are especially worried about fraudulent numbers and cards. If you look at the website I mentioned, it specifically says one MUST be face to face to obtain number and card. And if anyone selling you something asked for your PPS number, they had no business asking. It is NOT a proof of ID or useful for financial transactions. You do not need PPS number for a bank account unless it is a interest bearing account so Government can collect taxes on the interest. Checking accounts do not pay interest so there is no need for PPS number. I got a checking account with a debit card at AIB, and in fact it is still open with a small amount in it and it has NO PPS number on that account. I bought and sold 2 cars and obtained insurance for those cars and NO PPS card was needed. I paid my road tax for one of the cars (The other had prepaid tax) and they did not ask for any PPS number. All they cared about was the money and the ID of the car. I leased a house in a Government subsidized senior development and they did have a place for PPS number, but did not require it. Again, all they really cared about was making sure the money was coming in from direct deposit from my bank. But all that is covered in the Irish Citizen website. LOOK IT UP.

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DebAckley
7/24/2017 22:00 EST

Hi! We have our PPS #'s...we have/had an Irish lawyer in Kerry that got us one. I have dual citizenship....we did not have to go to any govt office, etc. We were renting a home in IE and US. at the time.

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Joshuak
7/25/2017 07:59 EST

well, you do now. Look at the website. They make specific mention about security.

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hereineir
9/5/2017 13:29 EST

lovelyrita: Do not rent a "holiday home" if avoidable. They are horribly expensive and one can usually find a short term let that is much more reasonable. The closer you live to a major city, like Cork, the more expensive and rat-race-like your life will be. You can still be within reasonable driving distance to emergency medical services and live a more laid back, cheaper existence in the 'country'. I ended up having to have open heart surgery 3 months after arriving in Ireland, and was in the small local hospital in Bantry before being transferred & taken by ambulance to Cork. I have private Irish medical insurance (€100/mo) which covered every cent of the surgery & 3 months of hospitalization. The care was excellent.

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Mellis5910
9/5/2017 13:46 EST

Yes, despite all the shrieking about expensive rentals, if you're willing to live away from large cities, you can find wonderful properties to rent. But hereineir is right, steer clear of the holiday homes

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Meachair54
9/5/2017 15:51 EST

Hello Hereineir ,
Glad to hear that your medical problems worked out for the best.
I know when my wife retires this year I will have to get more insurance when going over to Ireland , I have looked inti big companies and the prices are unbelievable . Would it be possible to mention what Irish medical ins. You have? Thanks

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nativeofsac
9/7/2017 21:41 EST

I'm interested in following your journey. My husband and I are planning a similar excursion. We would like to start our travels in Ireland for perhaps 2 months and like you, use it as a hub to visit other places. We are looking to begin our journey late summer next year. I am just beginning our planning and I am not sure where to begin as I haven't traveled internationally. Any tips or advice that you learn along the way is greatly appreciated, as is the rest of the posts on this thread. So happy to have found this site :)

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Mellis5910
9/8/2017 04:06 EST

Hi Rita. I live in West Cork and think these Numbeo figures must refer to Cork city...they are way too high. The cost of living near Skibbereen is considerably lower. Rents are lower, groceries lower and utilities lower, too. I shop carefully and love how plentiful and varied the produce is, much of it organic. Living outside the big cities seems to be the key to lower living costs.

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Muddled
9/9/2017 06:45 EST

Cork city is very up and coming and has gotten very expensive in the last few years. It is becoming Ireland's second city and house prices and rents are high. There is also a housing shortage in Ireland, particularly in urban areas, driving prices up even further.

It's difficult to give a cost of living. I find Ireland, overall, very expensive, and I too live in west Cork. Some things are cheaper than the U.S. and most things are a lot more expensive AND there are additions costs, i.e. TV licence, etc.

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Muddled
9/9/2017 06:45 EST

Cork city is very up and coming and has gotten very expensive in the last few years. It is becoming Ireland's second city and house prices and rents are high. There is also a housing shortage in Ireland, particularly in urban areas, driving prices up even further.

It's difficult to give a cost of living. I find Ireland, overall, very expensive, and I too live in west Cork. Some things are cheaper than the U.S. and most things are a lot more expensive AND there are additions costs, i.e. TV licence, etc.

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monet06
10/18/2017 18:34 EST

I just got my PPS number this year and applied via a solicitor. Never had to attend in person. Flowerfairy is right, you do seem to need it for a lot and if you are in Ireland on a VISA you will need to provide it.

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FlowerFairy
10/19/2017 01:24 EST

With respect, Joshuak, no I did not need to apply in person for PPS. I sent the form from Australia and received my PPS Number while still in Australia.

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DebAckley
10/19/2017 10:10 EST

We lived in Co. Kerry last year. Are you planning on renting? We rented a home for 1000 euros a month ( we saw others for about 850...there is a rental shortage in IE at the moment). We had to pay for electric, oil, cable, trash and the fee for having a tv ( 160)...I'm going to say another 500 on top of rent. Are you going to have a car? We bought one as renting thru Hertz, etc was very expensive for an extensive period. You will need insurance..which was maybe was 700 (paid for a year, but they reimburse if you cancel the policy if you are returning home). The other issue you need to check (citizen information.ie is are you working? If you are a US citizen you will be allowed to stay for 90 days. IE is wonderful, we enjoyed our time there ( we were able to stay longer as I am a dual citizen). We loved Cork and the English Market. Let me know if you have further ??
deb

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Joshuak
10/24/2017 21:21 EST

Monet06 and Flowerfairy: you both still do not understand what the PPS number is for or how to LEGALLY get one. If a Lawyer got one for you he made up a story why you needed one which could later effect your stay in Ireland. If an audit is done it may find your card was not obtained legally. A PPS number is ONLY used for social welfare purposes or Irish Government purposes. One does not need one at all for opening a Bank account, buying anything, including a car, or any commercial use. In fact, if someone is in Ireland with a visitors Visa and not a work Visa they should not even have a PPS number. You need to read the following Irish Government website:
http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/system/personal_public_service_number.html.

Read the whole information and then MAYBE you will come back and tell us what it is for if you understand what it says. In addition, that website tells you anyone legally living in Ireland with a permanent address over the age of 66 is entitled to free travel using a PScard which one now gets when you go to a PS office. This card has your picture on it and a chip in the card. For free travel it says FT+S on the upper left corner. That means Free Travel + spouse. What Flower fairy is telling you is completely incorrect. On the website I provided, there is also a section that tells you what agency or Government section may use the PPS number. It is illegal for use in commercial transactions. If Monet06 is in Ireland on a visitors visa, or non working visa, the PPS number has been obtained by false pretenses and has no use in Ireland. A visitor to Ireland has no need for a PPS number, READ THE WEBSITE !!

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FlowerFairy
10/24/2017 23:47 EST

Joshuak sorry but, with respect, I am not going to waste my breath. I know what I know and what I experienced while living in ROI for 16 months where we opened a bank account, bought a car etc etc and when we had to produce our PPS Number. There was NOTHING ILLEGAL about obtaining our PPS Number..

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Keamore
10/25/2017 07:37 EST

If Flower Fairy has a PPS card and/or number then it's irrelevant how she obtained it. Whether the number is valid is what is important and according to her, it is. When I moved to Ireland a year or ago, I was given a PSS number but not a card. I didn't receive a card until 2 months or so later, but the number itself was valid.

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Keamore
10/25/2017 07:50 EST

I retired to West Cork a year ago from New England.

My living expenses have been cut by at least a third. Utility payments are half of what I paid in the states, due primarily not having to shell out nearly $190 a month for water, sewer and garbage.

I'm renting a beautiful home so I don't have to deal with high home insurance rates or ever escalating property taxes.

Food, on the whole is less expensive although many items are about the same.

As in the states, it depends on where you live and how you judiciously you shop.

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Joshuak
10/25/2017 17:22 EST

Flowerfairy: Are you afraid to look at the Irish Government website ? If you look at it you will see you are incorrect. I realize a Lawyer can concoct a story such as "My client from XYZ country needs a PPS number as we plan on looking at possibility of probate action concerning ancestors wills". That probably would get someone outside Ireland a PPS number even if it were not true. But otherwise it is illegal to get one without actually legally living in Ireland and having a need for one. That website also spells out who can ask you for that number. It is strictly for Irish Government agencies use. There is a short version of the address as follows:

http://www.welfare.ie/en/Pages/PPSN.aspx.

Read the whole thing as it does include information about Security and fraudulent use of said number or cards. It can be red in less than 5 minutes.

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DebAckley
10/25/2017 18:34 EST

We have PPS numbers...since we were looking at buying a house nd bought a car, our lawyer in IE did our paperwork , etc for us. We also have a bank account there.

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FlowerFairy
10/25/2017 18:51 EST

Frankly, and with respect, JoshuaK you have become EXTREMELY ANNOYING. I am sure there are others like me who wish you would go away and find something else to keep you occupied.

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FlowerFairy
10/25/2017 18:51 EST

Frankly, and with respect, JoshuaK you have become EXTREMELY ANNOYING. I am sure there are others like me who wish you would go away and find something else to keep you occupied.

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FlowerFairy
10/25/2017 18:51 EST

Frankly, and with respect, JoshuaK you have become EXTREMELY ANNOYING. I am sure there are others like me who wish you would go away and find something else to keep you occupied.

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Joshuak
10/25/2017 22:44 EST

Madam, be prepared to be "Extremely Annoyed" as I do not intent to go anywhere. If you do not wish to accept the facts. I guess you will remain "annoyed". I never said you did not receive your PPS number via the mail while in Australia. All I said was it is not legal to get a PPS number that way. But you seem to be telling us "Don't confuse me with the facts". I give you a real quick way to look at the Irish Government information about the social services and you ignore it. You give out false information, and I will correct it. Plan on it !!

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Meachair54
10/26/2017 06:43 EST

To whom it may concern!!!!A7. Your PPS Number. should only be used in transactions with Government Departments and Agencies or persons or bodies that they have authorised to act on their behalf.

Your PPS Number should only be used in transactions with Government Departments and Agencies or persons or bodies that they have authorised to act on their behalf.Your PPS Number is used to access a wide variety of public services and more will be added in the future.
You can use your PPS Number now for:

All Social Welfare Services
Free Travel Pass
Pupil ID
Public Health - including Medical Card and Drug Payment Schemes
Child Immunisation
Revenue Schemes - including Taxation and Mortgage Interest Relief
Housing Grants
Driver Theory Testing and Driver Licences
Civil Registration Service – All Birth, Death, Marriage & Civil Partnership transactions
Q8. Who can ask me for my PPS Number?

A8. You can only be asked for your PPS Number by one of the agencies listed in the Register of Users or by an authorised agent of one of these bodies. Your employer will also use your PPS Number for the purposes of advising Revenue and Department of Social Protection of your tax deductions and Pay Related Social Insurance (PRSI) contributions.

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Meachair54
10/26/2017 06:56 EST

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Personal Public Service Number

Introduction
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Introduction
Your Personal Public Service Number (PPS number) is a unique reference number that helps you access social welfare benefits, public services and information in Ireland.

Before you can be allocated a PPS number, you must show that you need one for a transaction with a specified body. For example, if you are taking up employment, you need a PPS number to register with the Revenue Commissioners. However, looking for work is not a transaction with a specified body and employers should not look for your PPS number when recruiting. An employer should only seek a PPS number if you are actually taking up employment with the organisation.

You can find a list of State agencies that use PPS numbers to identify individuals on the Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection's website.

A PPS number is always 7 numbers followed by either one or two letters.

The PPS number was formerly known as the Revenue and Social Insurance (RSI) number. If your number is the same as your spouse's number but your number has a W at the end, you may need a new PPS number - see 'Phasing out of W numbers' below for more information.

Using the Personal Public Service Number
You can use your PPS number for:

All social welfare services
The Free Travel Pass
Pupil ID
Public health services, including the medical card and the Drugs Payment Scheme
Child immunisation
Schemes run by the Revenue Commissioners, such as mortgage interest relief
Housing grants
Driver Theory Testing and driver licences
A PPS number has already been issued to you if:

You were born in Ireland in or after 1971
You started work in Ireland after 1979
You are getting a social welfare payment
You are taking part in the Drugs Payment Scheme
PPS numbers are printed on the following documents:

Public Services Card
Social Services Card
Drugs Payment Scheme Card
Medical Card
GP visit card
European Health Insurance Card
P60 (the annual statement of pay, tax and social insurance contributions from your employer)
P45 (the statement of tax and pay to date issued by your employer when you leave employment)
Tax Assessment
PAYE Notice of Tax Credits
Temporary Payment Card
Phasing out of W numbers
Before 2000 when some women got married they had to use the same PPS number as their husband, but with a W at the end of the number. This W number was issued by Revenue to identify spouses in a jointly assessed relationship. The W number was linked to the PPS number of the assessable spouse (which is the term used in Revenue for the spouse who is charged tax on the income of both spouses).

These numbers are being slowly phased out and W numbers have not been issued since 1999.

If your PPS number is the same as your husband’s PPS number but the last letter is W, you must get a new PPS number in these circumstances:

If your spouse is deceased
If you are divorced or separated
If you were issued with a Social Insurance number before 1979
If you have a PPS number ending with W and you cannot access the Local Property Tax online system using this number you may need to request a new number.

If you were issued a PPS number after 1979 and before you married, the Department may re-issue you with your original number on request.

If you are changing your W number for a new PPS number you do not need to go through the same application process as everyone else. To get your new number or to be re-instated with your old number contact the Client Identity Section in the Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection (DEASP). The phone number is (071) 967 2616 or Lo-call 1890 927 999.

When you get your new number from the DEASP, you should inform any organisations that may hold your old number. For example, your employer, your bank, the National Driver Licence Service, the HSE and Revenue – you can inform Revenue using the Revenue’s online Jobs and Pension Service or contact your local tax office.

I'm moving to Ireland soon - how do I get a Personal Public Service Number?
You cannot apply for a PPS number before you arrive in Ireland. You must be living in Ireland to apply for a PPS number. Before you can be allocated a PPS number, you must show that one is required for a transaction with a specified body.

You will be asked to produce documentary evidence of identity and residence in Ireland. Different documentary evidence will be required, depending on your nationality. A complete list of documents required as evidence of your identity is available.

I am not resident in Ireland but I need a PPS number - how do I get it?
In some cases people who are not resident in Ireland may need a PPS number. For example, someone who is a beneficiary under an Irish will may need to supply a PPS number before a grant of probate can issue.

The DEASP's Client Identity Services (CIS) provide a service for non-resident applicants who cannot attend at a designated PPS Registration Centre and who need a PPS number. If you want to use this service, you must show documentary evidence that you need a PPS number for a transaction with a specified body. You cannot use this exceptional application process if you are living in or intend to relocate to Ireland for any period of time. Audits of PPS applications are carried out periodically and you may be asked for additional information.

If you are living in Northern Ireland or the United Kingdom and are working in the Republic of Ireland (a frontier worker) you apply for a PPS number in the normal way at a designated PPS Number Allocation Centre.

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Mellis5910
10/26/2017 07:43 EST

Hi lovelyrita,

Looking once again at the Numbeo site you referenced, as I have often in the past, I see wide discrepancies between their figures and what I actually pay in the West Cork area, so I am assuming these prices refer primarily to Cork city. In the price range scale, I' say my own expenses track towards the lower end of their price range consistently. The main price difference is of course the cost of housing, rural areas are far less expensive than their urban equivalents. That being said, the selection of accommodation has dropped and prices have risen over the last few years.

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