Dolce100
3/2/2017 00:50 EST
I was wondering, if I rent an apartment in Italy before I go, and then show them proof of my renting that apartment, will that give me a better chance of getting approved for a long term Italian Visa?
Thank you very much.
Sincerely, Dolce100
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Ugo
3/2/2017 08:41 EST
to rent apartment you has to pick a codice fiscale , maibe via italian consulate on yr's country - as you have it , select region where you like to have apartment , and find it - you has to sign a renting contract , for minimum 6 months validity - then with this contract , justly registreed + cessione fabbricato issued by comune police office ,+ tourism visa + proof of the money to live in italy proof ( not minus than 5000 euro ) + codice fiscale + passport copy - go to the commune office and ask Elective Residence ( if you are not EU citizens ) or residence permit ( if you are EU citizens - more info , on my website > http://www.lifeinitaly.it/Inglese/italyresidenceguide.htm
Ugo - by , Lifeinitaly.it
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DoppioCittadino
3/2/2017 09:20 EST
Not only will it help, it is actually a requirement.
Go to http://vistoperitalia.esteri.it/home/en and scroll down to the Q&A section to get a basic outline of what will be required for an elective residency visa.
I give you fair warning, the income requirements are pretty steep; you can find many discussions here on that subject.
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Sergios
3/2/2017 11:52 EST
Just a reminder to those new to this game. If you are a direct descendant of an italian citizen, even if you are not an Italian citizen, you do not need to go through the visa process. You have a right to establish residency in italy and apply for reinstatement of italian citizenship. If your parent(s) was/were a citizen then you can get your citizenship within two years of residency. If you grandparent(s) was/were citizens, then it takes 3 years. I say this because the process is very confusing and many people that have this right do not know it.
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LucyB
3/2/2017 14:38 EST
thinking about retiring in italy, i am an american citizen living in US. my husband is an italian citizen, and a us green card holder.
can we rent an apartment in italy without paying italian taxes.?
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DoppioCittadino
3/2/2017 19:54 EST
No. Why should you be able to?
If you reside in Italy for 182 days or less in the calendar year, you must pay taxes on the income received during the period you were resident.
If you live there more than 182 days, then all of your worldwide income for the entire year is taxable.
You will receive an offsetting credit against your US taxes, however the net result will probably be that you will pay more overall than if you just started in the US.
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Ugo
3/3/2017 02:08 EST
on income RECEIVED IN ITALY .
this according > agreement on double taxation > beetwin Italia and Usa .
see >> http://www.finanze.gov.it/opencms/it/fiscalita-comunitaria-e-internazionale/convenzioni-e-accordi/convenzioni-per-evitare-le-doppie-imposizioni/
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DoppioCittadino
3/3/2017 09:47 EST
An additional point worthy of note:
Unlike the US, Italy does not have a "Married, Filing Jointly" tax system. Everyone in Italy files their own tax return based on their own income and deductions. This can be either advantageous or disadvantageous, depending on your specific circumstances.
For example, basic calculations would suggest that the more equally a husband and wife can split their income, the less overall tax they will pay in Italy. On the other hand, if the bulk of a couple's income is in only the husband's (or wife's) name, then the tax bill will be significantly higher.
To the extent that you can manipulate (legally, of course) your income resources *prior* to arriving in Italy so as to "spread the wealth", you may find significant long-term tax savings.
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Umbertomar
3/4/2017 06:54 EST
If you are applying for a long term visa you will need to submit a lease for the term of your long term visa request. While different Italian Consulates apply the rules differently and maybe arbitrarily, I was successful in obtaining a long term visa (1 year) 1) by having a lease for one year, which became effective only if I were granted a long term visa for one year 2) I had the option of canceling the lease after 6 months with 60 days notice for any reason. (you never know about a place until you live in it for awhile.)
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proseh58
3/5/2017 01:56 EST
I can confirm that we had the same experience coming to Puglia. We found our apartment when we visited and then completed the lease online. Italy is heavily bureaucratic so it includes protections for renters, thus the ability to get out of a lease if you're displeased. We had to have it in order to apply for the permesso.
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whidden39
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3/6/2017 03:45 EST
DoppioC: Does filing jointly in US impair filing in Italy? A couple wouldn't have to file separately in the US in order to determine US taxes (a credit on Italian filing) paid proportionately on an individual basis, correct?
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rsetzer99
3/6/2017 10:13 EST
Any US joint return can be broken down into individual returns. Most all of the software packages do a joint vs individual analysis. And if your more complicated than that, your tax preparer will be able to do the same.
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