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TheresaIT
  10/5/2017 05:24 EST

Buongiorno tutti!

Good news! The Anagraffe office in Trieste finally got my records faxed from the village where I obtained my citizenship and I can apply for my Carta d'identita. I am trying to clarify some information, as the person and the Anagraffe office does not speak English, I asked if I need to stop by her office first, but all she said was to bring three photos and my Italian documents to the Centro Civico. I still don't know if I need to pick up documents from her office or just bring my passport.

I would appreciate any light that you can shed on this.

Thanks so much!
Theresa

rsetzer99
  10/5/2017 05:44 EST

For ours, which was slightly different circumstances as we were just ER visa. We just took our permesso to the comune office and they filled out a couple forms and collected a bollo stamp from us. Then told us to come back the next week. Following week, they printed out our carta's, put the photos on them, and put everything into the plastic sleeves. So, it sounds like first, the documents to show you are eligible to register as a resident along with a bollo stamp. Then came back next week to pick up the finished documents. Oh, one last thing, I seem to remember we also paid an additional 20Eu at pickup time.

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Sergios
  10/5/2017 06:34 EST

Did you have a visit from the vigili? If not you may still have to go through that process. When you go with your ID to the municipio they will set a vista to make sure you live where you said you live. If that is the case, try to get them to tell you the day (like teusdays) that they will come so you're not stock at home for two months. Make sure you have your name on the doorbell and mailbox. A week after the visit you'll be able to go get your I booklet.

rsetzer99
  10/5/2017 08:23 EST

Ah, forgot about the visit. Yes, they are supposed to visit, but like many things in Italy, it depends where you live. Small village in Abruzzo, they may have just called up a local official who confirmed us. Delivery people have in the past just stopped at the bar and said. Dove gli Americani?

TheresaIT
  10/5/2017 09:20 EST

Hi All,

Thanks for your replies. I am an Italian citizenship, and had a visit from the vigili a few weeks ago, so all set there. Next is my identify and health cards. I haven't heard from my contact at the Anagrafe office, so will bring my passport, which is the only document I have, and my photos - which I now have! I will find out more tomorrow. As a wise person on the forum once advised, "Keep Smiling!"

Sergios
  10/5/2017 09:28 EST

You should have been given a paper when you applied for residency. If you bring that paper with you to the office of the carta sanitaria, they will start the process without you having the residency card. You should be able to get the carta sanitaria in that one visit. The same paper should be brought to the window of the stato civile with the italian style passport photos. The information should be already on their computer. Make sure you have a doctor selected so that it streamlines the process. Also, if you have special conditions like high BP, the doctor can right that up for you and you are then given a second booklet that provides extra payment for pharmaceuticals [lower costs to you]. Hope I was clear there.

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Sergios
  10/5/2017 09:30 EST

write not right, alright?

TheresaIT
  10/5/2017 11:02 EST

Sergios,

Thank you for the clarification. I had completely forgotten about the paper I got when I applied for residency - so whew! Just pulled it out. That's saved me an extra trip.

My understanding was that. had to get my identify card first, then apply for the carta sanitaria - so you're saying I could actually do that before I have my identity card?
I'm hoping Centro Civico doesn't take the paper tomorrow when I apply for my Carta d'identita.

I had a website for where to get the names of English speaking doctors, but now that I'm looking, am unable to find it )-: Do you. know if there is a website that provides a list of doctors? I will call the Tourist Information Office and see if they have any suggestions.

Thanks so much!

Sergios
  10/5/2017 11:51 EST

Can't help with the doctor but once you have your ID book, that's all you need. The paper becomes superfluous at that point.

TheresaIT
  10/5/2017 12:47 EST

Thanks Sergios. Assuming the ID book has a list of doctors?

almare2
  10/5/2017 12:51 EST

I found a list at http://englishspeakingdoctors.weebly.com/trieste.html by searching for "English speaking doctors Trieste." There may be others.

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TheresaIT
  10/5/2017 13:00 EST

Thank you, Almare2. I found this one, as well. I am putting some feelers out to local folks for a General Practitioner. Just got this idea - may call one of the doctors listed on the site we both found to see if they know of someone. I'm sure I'll find a solution. (-:

Thanks again!

Cosmopolitan
  10/5/2017 13:11 EST

I've been told that the 'Sanitaria' office has those lists from which you choose your doctor as soon as you are approved for the card. It could be different in other locations or cities, but that's how I got my referral. They show you a list and you can make your preference known for M/F, the nearest to your residence, even language skills are indicated, so if you need an English speaking doctor, you may be lucky to find one. Good luck!

Cosmopolitan
  10/5/2017 13:25 EST

I would ask at Anagrafe or even better, at the office of the carta sanitaria how GP referral works in your city. I believe in my city that's the only way it works, i.e. you have no choice but to pick a GP from their list. Not such a bad idea really, saves you from having to find one yourself, which could be a hassle.

Sergios
  10/5/2017 13:37 EST

Ask your friends who they use.

Sergios
  10/5/2017 14:18 EST

No. The ID book is just your ID
. But that's what you need to get you medical card.

TheresaIT
  10/5/2017 17:37 EST

Thanks Lavoiee. That would make it easy, at least to start.

I have put a few posts out, Sergios, asking friends for referrals, and now have a couple of names - though they may nor may not be in practice - the person who gave me the referral saw them 2 to 4 years ago, and another just retired. So, will see how it all works out! I'm happy to be at the point where I can apply for the coverage.

TheresaIT
  10/6/2017 13:42 EST

Hi All,

Just a quick update. I am excited to share that I got my Carta d'Identita today! The staff at the Centro Civico were so lovely. The Distretto Sanitario was closed this afternoon, so will take the next step for my tessera sanitaria on Monday.

Thanks again everyone!

Sergios
  10/6/2017 13:43 EST

Good for you

Napol01
  10/15/2017 14:41 EST

Annagraffe

Napol01
  10/15/2017 14:42 EST

TheresaIT
  10/15/2017 15:00 EST

Dear All,

Just a quick follow-up. I got a referral from a friend who's doctor speaks a little+ English. I saw her last week and got a few referrals. I may look for someone else down the line, but it's a start!

Thanks again for your suggestions!

Napol01
  10/15/2017 15:02 EST

After we arrive in Italy do we first go to the Anagraffe to declare our residency is this where we apply for the carta d'Identitia & the carta sanitaria or are these done separately at different offices. Does it matter in which order to do this . Can one get a carta sanitaria before the ID card. We will not be tax residents in the year 2018 when we move over there if that makes a difference, but we are Italian citizens. Thanks

Napol01
  10/15/2017 15:02 EST

After we arrive in Italy do we first go to the Anagraffe to declare our residency is this where we apply for the carta d'Identitia & the carta sanitaria or are these done separately at different offices. Does it matter in which order to do this . Can one get a carta sanitaria before the ID card. We will not be tax residents in the year 2018 when we move over there if that makes a difference, but we are Italian citizens. Thanks

Napol01
  10/15/2017 15:11 EST

Dear all sorry please read my questions below.

Sergios
  10/15/2017 16:54 EST

In order:
Codice fiscale
Lease for at least 1 year or proof of ownership
Go to stato civile and apply for residency
Take the receipt you get and apply for Carta sanitaria
Wait for visit by vigili
After visit (2 weeks) go get your ID card.

TheresaIT
  10/16/2017 04:45 EST

Napoli01,

Anagrafe Office - Residency
Centri Civici - Carta d'Identita
Distretto Sanitario - Tessera sanitaria

Napol01
  10/16/2017 15:42 EST

Thank you to help clarify the order of whom we see first. The 6 month lease may be a problem. We would consider private insurance while waiting to be in the National Health Insurance(SSN) has anyone had first hand experience with private insurance. A few people have recommended Allianz. In addition to private health insurance as being a backup until we are insured would anyone know if private insurance serves any purpose once you are in the national health care.

Napol01
  10/16/2017 15:42 EST

Thank you to help clarify the order of whom we see first. The 6 month lease may be a problem. We would consider private insurance while waiting to be in the National Health Insurance(SSN) has anyone had first hand experience with private insurance. A few people have recommended Allianz. In addition to private health insurance as being a backup until we are insured would anyone know if private insurance serves any purpose once you are in the national health care.

rsetzer99
  10/17/2017 03:03 EST

We ended up with Seven Corners where we found a very affordable plan. For my wife and I it was just over $3000 for the year and we cancelled it halfway through without hassle for a prorated refund. The lower costs was because it was for a maximum amount. I think something like $300,000, which, here in Italy was enough for piece of mind. Pre existing was allowed so long as you already had coverage from someone else.

Napol01
  10/17/2017 08:05 EST

Thank you I have never heard of Seven Corners but I will google it. Did you set this up while living in Italy. If you were traveling or visiting other countries were you covered under this plan. Curious did you cancel this private plan after you got in the SSN, that is what we are trying to figure out will we need a private plan once we get in the national health system.

milano17
  3/22/2018 11:53 EST

We have our permesso di soggiorno and went to the anagraffie for our residency. We have a receipt and someone should be coming to check on our dwelling. However the person at the office said we needed to go to our consulate and get a declaration of marriage. We went to the consulate and they told us we had to get our marriage certificate and translation from the US. Has anyone had experience with this issue? While I'm asking, when the residence card is ready is sometime of bollo and photos required? I read something that said that.
Thanks.

Umbertomar
  3/22/2018 12:25 EST

Here is a link to info on the new identity card . http://www.cartaidentita.interno.gov.it/presentazione-della-richiesta/
I am no help on the marriage certificate

rsetzer99
  3/22/2018 13:35 EST

I guess the marriage cert is just something your local is doing. Photos and bollo though will be needed when you go to pick them up. Nice thing about our tiny commune is that the guy here just happened to have a couple bollo stamps on him, saving us a trip down the street to get them.

kmagruder
  3/22/2018 14:34 EST

thank you

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