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DeniseLR
  2/8/2017 11:32 EST

This is the question everyone is answering on other threads, so what do you think is going to happen? We are already in the beginnings of a trade war. There is a net outflow of immigrants back to Mexico. Cartels owing their existence to demand for drugs in US are a plague in Mexico and the anticipated battle over construction of 'the Wall' is disturbing to many on both sides. Patronizing behavior of many tourists stereotyping Mexicans as either kind, unassuming people or liars and thieves has to be galling to many natives, along with their high incomes compared to many Mexicans and easy access to goods and services unobtainable to those who provide sell them these goods or provide them services. Its a complicated situation that can't be understood relying on simplistic analysis I've heard from many on both sides of political spectrum on this site. So, what do you think or are you only comfortable taking over other people's threads?

joaquinx
  2/8/2017 15:00 EST

So, how long have you been trolling?

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DeniseLR
  2/8/2017 15:41 EST

Just what I thought might happen. A bunch of intellectual cowards who only feel comfortable going after someone and are fearful of actually expressing a coherent opinion of their own and standing by it. Well, cowards, the next time someone actually wants some help on this website and you think about expressing some b.s. irrelevancies you'd be terrified of expressing in public just say no and s.t.f.u.
(now you can whine and complain about this comment if you want, I won't be reading it.)

ScubaBride2
  2/8/2017 17:39 EST

You are just trying to stir the pot...leave it be!

JWinPS
  2/8/2017 20:03 EST

Your questions were very interesting. However, you lost me at the point you said "or are you only comfortable taking over other people's threads?" You thereby set the stage for the comment about “troll.”

While I wouldn't have responded that way to you [i.e., troll,] you did set the tone. To further show you wanted to start an argument you said “A bunch of intellectual cowards who only feel comfortable going after someone and are fearful of actually expressing a coherent opinion of their own.”

DeniseLR
  2/8/2017 20:45 EST

B.S.

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WoodwindWayne
  2/8/2017 21:30 EST

Wow! Usually it's us against them. Now them is with us against you. Good job!

eshieldsga
  2/9/2017 11:43 EST

Since I am considering moving next year, the subject interests me. I am interested in hearing any information except the political squabbling. As an academic however, I have 2 thoughts:
1. It's too soon to tell what the effects might be because we don't know what set of policies will be put in place (I am exceptionally glad I have the next 15 months before I have to make a decision).
2. There are economists and sociologists out there who are doing the complex computer modeling to see what would happen under different conditions, but it takes time to do even that.

In the meantime, I expect we will hear from people when costs go up and down, or banking regs become simpler or more complicated, etc.

joaquinx
  2/9/2017 14:30 EST

eshieldsda, excellent points. We don't know what the future brings as well as the reaction of the Mexican government. I will retain optimism by saying that the US government trade-saber rattling won't be as angry as threatened and Mexico will certainly react positively.

Cozumeldeb
  2/9/2017 16:30 EST

Agree to early, hoping for the best..We got our permanent residency last yr..In a holding pattern, I don't know for sure #of ex-pats in Mexico, but its a lot and growing annually.I'd read in 2008, there was a huge influx from the US with the recession/crash, cashed out in US and came south..Many opened businesses here as well. Enjoy MX wherever you choose to settle, Retirement Heaven IMO.

DeniseLR
  2/9/2017 17:23 EST

Thanks. A couple of thoughtful answers (along with some of the usual content free criticism). Didn't expect that. Know something about economic modeling but pretty unfamiliar with the kind of modeling used by other social sciences and variables measured. I think we can all agree things are going to get worse. The question, for me anyway, is how much worse for those of us travelling and living in Mexico? Perhaps impossible to estimate, but that is what is driving a lot of the dialogue on the Mexico site.

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CoconutBowling
  2/10/2017 11:52 EST

Well aren't you the kettle calling the pot black. LMAO

Cozumeldeb
  2/10/2017 12:06 EST

Coconut Guy, what is your point?

WoodwindWayne
  2/10/2017 12:09 EST

Try qroo.us Lots of very useful advice and information there, sans politics.....

WoodwindWayne
  2/10/2017 12:12 EST

Y'all stop sniping.....nobody wins...

DeniseLR
  2/10/2017 14:49 EST

The point I think was to bring out the snipers who self identify by reacting to very general criticism focused at a group, not individuals. And no one was belittled based on race, sex, age, religion or politics. Just on the attempt to destroy honest discourse and bring attention to themselves (while hiding behind an internet nickname,,). Personally, I don't even mind graffiti if clever. Most of this mindless BS is far from...

JDavid
  2/10/2017 15:20 EST

You, Denise, fired the opening round and set the tone. Now you are acting all but hurt. Give it a rest.

DeniseLR
  2/10/2017 17:52 EST

Im not firing
Im not hurt.
Really. Grow up.

WoodwindWayne
  2/10/2017 19:51 EST

There have been some posts here since the election (you know which election) that have been no less than rants. Raging rants. By current posters. Very current posters.... Jekyll one time, Hyde the next. Not exactly warm and fuzzy generalizations....

WoodwindWayne
  2/10/2017 21:42 EST

To clarify, the posts I mention were made earlier, perhaps Nov-Dec, by a very few persons who are current posters. Hope I'm not being sucked into an argument....

louixo
  2/11/2017 08:52 EST

Stop listening to tv news and reading newspapers...and I'm one more who says "give it a rest"!!!!

DeniseLR
  2/11/2017 10:12 EST

I just received a private message from this dude who claims to have developed some software that analyzes the content of internet messaging, conversational patterns, grammar, punctuation etc. and provides, when enough data, probabilities that different identities actually belong to the same person. There are several he mentioned on Mexico site. For me, the sites that interest me, Peru, Ecuador, the Philippines all seem to have topics taken over by idiots that either want to rant about nothing or lecture you if you accidentally mention a sensitive topic. Or sell you real estate (on Mexico site,,,). My friend wishes he had never mentioned non-citizens cannot own guns in Mexico. This is my thread so can say what I want. And I wouldn't be surprised if law enforcement monitors Mexico site as well, as nowadays for obvious reasons the site and others seems to attract a lot of angry people who seem to know nothing about Mexico, or other sensitive countries, and have never been there. Worried about internet monitoring and possible loss of net neutrality but guess this isn't the place to discuss. I am serious about topics and wish more were. But if I owned site I guess I'd be happy with a lot of traffic.

WoodwindWayne
  2/11/2017 10:40 EST

Agree with giving it a rest. Sometimes I don't follow my own advice. Denise, good luck in your hunting of snipes....oops, imeen snipers!!

WoodwindWayne
  2/11/2017 10:48 EST

How about the Colombia site...do you think that one has been compromised?

giershift43
  2/11/2017 11:01 EST

I plan to just continue with my plan to move to Chapala. But the president of Mexico has warned Mexicans in the States to be in contact with their consulate. This might make it more difficult to get into a consulate to get a resident permit.

DeniseLR
  2/11/2017 12:01 EST

Feel free to ignore if don't approve. Sometimes (frequently, really) when you say (or hear) something unpleasant or controversial but true or at least worth considering people (yourself) will initially react with anger but down the line incorporate into their world view. How could the Columbia site not be monitored by the national security state. Wouldn't you if worked for one of US alphabet organizations? Isn't going to get better any time soon, either.

stevenlloyd
  2/11/2017 14:35 EST

I know I have previously made my opinion of the current administration in the US pretty clear but I am not here to start a political debate or offend anyone. I really am interested in what impact there might be in the way us gringos are perceived in Mexico because I really am interested in considering Mexico as an option for relocation. From what I have read here the proximity and climate are great incentives for me. I understand the benefit of being non-assuming and respectful, and my wife and I plan on doing whatever is needed and possible on our part to adjust and fit in (learn the local culture, language, etc.). I’d really like to know what specific areas or community’s expats endorse and why. I would also like to know if driving my car through the States and into Mexico would be a prudent option. Any and all feedback would be greatly appreciated. Gracias.

MexJuan1
  2/11/2017 14:54 EST

With what is, currently, happening and what is yet to come, all of your good intentions may not matter soon? I wish you the best of luck. I've been here for a cpl of years now and have to admit to being pretty concerned about what might happen!

DeniseLR
  2/11/2017 14:54 EST

Wonder that myself. Starting to think it's almost like someone from Portugal asking people on US site the best places in US to live. Expats have their little relatively safe enclaves but how often do they venture out of them? In the old days (pre 1990s) we would drive all around the country with impunity but that doesn't seem possible any more. Anyway, I'll shut up and hope others can help.

stevenlloyd
  2/11/2017 15:19 EST

That is disheartening Juan, but I suspect there is good reason to be concerned. Like most people in Canada and worldwide, we were stunned by the outcome of the last US election (I understand why it happened but that is a discussion for another venue) and very concerned by what has been happening since. We were also planning on exploring and considering Ecuador. Perhaps we’ll go there first and see how things settle out with what is happening in the States. There could have been so many advantages to Mexico. It is really too bad that any and all of us gringos could and likely would be lumped in with those who support what is happening in the US.

MexJuan1
  2/11/2017 15:27 EST

Ecuador looks good! Take a look at Portugal too. The Algarve Region. Beautiful beaches and inexpensive too.

JohnPS
  2/11/2017 16:09 EST

I think border areas (like here in Rosarito) will likely see an influx of crime, as Trump says he will deport criminal illegals first, before he focuses on deporting the many other illegals.. There also will be a job shortage (or actuality an over-supply of job seekers) in the border areas, as the U.S.. takes people to the neatest border crossing and puts them out on the streets of Tijuana, Ciudad Juarez, etc.

Perhaps this is sheer speculation, but it sure seems likely.

DeniseLR
  2/11/2017 17:13 EST

Sure does seem likely, but I (not lawyer) expect a lot of legal challenges as with travel ban. I'm in Albuquerque and tension ramping up. I can imagine effect across the border and increase in Anti-Americanism if people lose jobs in trade war. Hope most of this turns out to just be rhetoric. But even rhetoric is damaging. Interestingly I notice Iran is starting to appeal to American people directly, using the strategy we have recently used with them, differentiating between an unpopular government and the people of the country.

promobabe
  2/11/2017 17:24 EST

Stevenlloyd:
Your concerns exactly mirror mine. I started heavily researching a possible move to Mexico months before the election -- for the same reasons as you & your wife. In January, I took the first of what is to be a few exploratory trips to places I'm interested in, starting with SMA. I have upcoming trips booked to Ajijic, QRO & back again to SMA for several weeks this spring/summer. But with this alarming turn of events & the negative effects on our relationship with Mexico, I'm having serious second thoughts. Particularly that I'm no longer married & would face any potential unpleasantness on my own. I'm trying to get the same answers & predictions from current expats, sans the ugly, combative rhetoric that seems to accompany most responses. That seems the greatest challenge of all

nelsonokelmgmailcom
  2/11/2017 17:32 EST

We have lived in PV for 3 1/2 years. The people are friendly and welcoming (so far). Tourism is a major employer here and the people seem to be aware of that. There are occasional Robberies and muggings. I feel safe and am loving our life here. The summer heat is not as bad as folks let on. We have become accustomed to it and do not use the AC that we have. I have a feeling that the border areas will be much different. Large ExPat community and LOTS of socializing. Life is good!!

DeniseLR
  2/12/2017 17:04 EST

Check out the Sunday Albuquerque Journal which discusses in depth the Mexican drug cartels, especially the major cartels, and their areas of influence both in Mexico and the United States.

LeiaRowan
  2/12/2017 17:35 EST

I don't think it is the drug cartels we have to worry about,.. it is the returnees, those who have lived in the USA and learned about true violence and are now being sent home by a viscious administration,.. they are hurt and angry and use American style violence.

DeniseLR
  2/12/2017 17:57 EST

I would say both are problematic, and worrisome. Read the article. And assuming economic problems will stay at the border - workers in the US and along the border in maquiladoras send money home to families all over the county. And if drug trafficking to US is inhibited an unintended consequence could easily be increased cartel violence, fighting over pieces of a smaller pie.

Pedroal
  2/13/2017 10:49 EST

Anyone heard of Rosa Maria Ortrega? Texas jury gives her 8 years for fraudulent voting. Brought here as a baby, claimed she thought she could vote legally, which is reasonable. I have seen people on this site who mistakenly thought they had dual citizenship! Why should anger in Mexico spare what many view as wealthy foreigners living in gated communities? After all, anger in US hasn't spared innocents like Rosa. May in some ways be good for corrupt Mexican government as it gives people somewhere else to focus anger.

eshieldsga
  2/13/2017 13:43 EST

Hostility worries me less than economic instability (which could happen in both the US and Mexico). I have worked all over the world and dealt with people who had overly rosy as well as very negative views of the US or the organization I worked for. That happens everywhere, and I don't expect feelings in Mexico to get to the level, say, of hatred of Iranians in the U.S. during the hostage crisis of 1978-79 ( when I was on a city bus when people on the street noticed people on the bus they _thought_ might be Iranian and started pummeling the bus).

As I would be retiring, I fear the effects of unstable exchange rates on what would then be a fixed income. I also fear the effects of more unemployed people thrown rapidly into the Mexican economy. I think the Mexican economy is fundamentally stronger than most Americans think it is - but hit with the effects of an economic contraction, look what happened in the US in 2008 - 2010.

Pedroal
  2/13/2017 14:52 EST

I suspect unstable exchange rates would probably favor US over Mexico, if your fixed income is in US $. No? Other countries not so much. I'd rather pay a little more than worry about home invasion, car jacking etc.like I do where I live in US.

giershift43
  2/13/2017 15:19 EST

The way I see it is the more Americans who look at it that way, the better the bargains for the rest of us.

giershift43
  2/13/2017 15:21 EST

My sentiments as well.

DeniseLR
  2/13/2017 15:29 EST

Note that Pena Nieto, Mexican President, is rebounding from 12% favorable rating after being seen as standing up to A.O. after he threatened to send in the troops (they still remember Gen. Pershing and the Mexican-American war). Note that during the last year the peso has severely depreciated against the $ and subsidies removed on gasoline, so prices at pump skyrocketed. So not too popular. But cancelling his meeting in Washington - popularity going up, understandably,!

DeniseLR
  2/13/2017 15:29 EST

Note that Pena Nieto, Mexican President, is rebounding from 12% favorable rating after being seen as standing up to A.O. after he threatened to send in the troops (they still remember Gen. Pershing and the Mexican-American war). Note that during the last year the peso has severely depreciated against the $ and subsidies removed on gasoline, so prices at pump skyrocketed. So not too popular. But cancelling his meeting in Washington - popularity going up, understandably,!

DeniseLR
  2/13/2017 17:03 EST

Check out if you can of the second installment in the Albuquerque Journal of 'The Cartels Next Door'.

giershift43
  2/13/2017 17:16 EST

I can't find that particular article, so why don't you say what it means to you. I live in Ohio. We had a whole family murdered her in 3 houses over drug trade and no one convicted. We have an opiod epidemic here and in Indiana. The drug trade is here as well. I think if they really want to end it, just legalize it and offer treatment and regulations. You can't stop people from pursuing something they want. It doesn't work any better than prohibition or the supply of a substance has ever worked, but to drive up prices and inspire criminals. That there is a greater amount of this activity near our borders is reflective of where the market is.

DeniseLR
  2/13/2017 17:27 EST

I think I agree with much of that. It is one of those issues that have no easy answers. Not sure how legalization of meth or heroin would work out. Have you read book :Methland' about evolution of drug problem in Midwest. And how the decline of industrial and agricultural base contributed to it. Not sure, need to hear from respected experts. No,,? I don't have all the answers, obviously, but simplistic political posturing won't cut it. Knowing more is depressing sometimes, but clearly can't rely on politicos from either party to make some decisions for us. That's all I've got! Brain is running out of steam.

giershift43
  2/13/2017 17:32 EST

So tell me what is it you want me to find in the referenced article. I don't see any point in promoting fear. Reasonable caution is one thing, but just being anxious and stoking fears is something we have had too much of lately. There are poor people and class struggles. I recently visited Lake Chapala and enjoyed it. I had no adverse incidents and it would help alot to move to a more pleasant climate at less cost. I can't address all the problems in the world.

DeniseLR
  2/13/2017 17:47 EST

Maybe its stoking your fear. That's not how I see learning something new. Now, if I were fabricating stuff... but I'm not. I haven't been down in Mexico lately, but hard to say it is as safe as it was 15 or 20/years ago. And odds are it won't get any better for a while.

giershift43
  2/14/2017 08:55 EST

This website is for expats and those that are interested in becoming and expat. Why are you on this site?

DeniseLR
  2/14/2017 10:26 EST

Actually I am interested. I have been in Central America (Costa Rica, Nicaragua, surprisingly safe) and South America (Argentina, Uruguay) and was interested in Mexico (Baja, Yucatan, loved Oaxaca but seems too risky,) Hablo espanol, y Usted,? Until new administration in US came aboard. Plead read the title of the thread. Are you really interested in learning anything or just being argumentative,? No voy a decir mas..no vale nada.

giershift43
  2/14/2017 10:59 EST

I am interested in learning from as many sources as possible and keeping an open mind.

giershift43
  2/14/2017 11:05 EST

Denise, I just do not see you as the unquestioned authority that you seem to see yourself as being. I have traveled to Mexico around 4 times. Different areas. I have a daughter that I adopted through complicated legal channels from Guatemala and traveled there to get her. I have been asking specific questions about process and appreciate your views. I just do not easily adopt them as my own.

janice1950
  2/14/2017 11:08 EST

De acuerdo I agree there is so much distention going on in these forems I just joined a month ago what's all this political stuff getting in the way? All we really want to know are the facts of living conditions truthfully in whatever city you live in in Mexico .I stopped reading because it became so negative. Come on guys!!,let's help each other not hurt

giershift43
  2/14/2017 11:11 EST

Denise, For 18 months I provided a home to a Mexican kid from Oaxaca and became friends with his family. We visited there to meet them. You intensity seem to be more about you wanting me to see you as the only authority. We only returned from Lake Chapala on Feb 5 and had no problems. Sure there can be problems, you can have them here in the States as well. Big drug problems in the heartland these days. I will continue to think for myself.

giershift43
  2/14/2017 11:24 EST

Thank you. I would like more on the nuts and bolts of living in the Lake Chapala area.

DeniseLR
  2/14/2017 11:46 EST

Janice 1950: The problem is, if you set up a thread asking about living conditions in say, Guanajuato, you will get a few reasonable answers + tons of stuff about Trump, and guns, and god knows what. Or trying to sell you real estate. I've tried. I started this thread trying to answer a specific question. Read the heading. Or don't. I don't care. I would love to find out about living conditions in Oaxaca, if the person who seems to have had her feelings wounded because I
intimated that peaceful candel light marches.are too little too late, has actually ever been there.

DeniseLR
  2/14/2017 11:49 EST

Now that's all I've got to say. Have real life to deal with and running out of minutes. Set up your own thread, or keep on with the sniping if that floats your boat.

Cozumeldeb
  2/14/2017 12:01 EST

Google Lake Chaplla/Ajijic ex-pat sites, very active groups. It is a beautiful area.. and even had their own Women's March against Trump,.Close to GDL for healthcare and airport.

Cozumeldeb
  2/14/2017 12:01 EST

Google Lake Chaplla/Ajijic ex-pat sites, very active groups. It is a beautiful area.. and even had their own Women's March against Trump,.Close to GDL for healthcare and airport.

giershift43
  2/14/2017 12:23 EST

Oaxaca was beautiful and highly indigenous. We also visited Mitla and Etla. It depends on how quiet you like it.
We visit a family in los Pinos. They lived in a 2 room house with a corn field and and out house. They were extremely gracious and extended gratitude for housing their son and helping him go to school. We visited the blind school. They need canes there and any equipment that can be sent. My husband is blind so we have a particular interest in the school. Food is great, the home of mole. The schools were the brunt of much criticism and pay for teachers was as low as $5 a day. Even impossible to live on in Oaxaca.

giershift43
  2/14/2017 12:27 EST

I love what I have learned about Lake Chapala. A friend accompanied us , and she plans to return with her husband in May,

Gig3000
  2/14/2017 13:52 EST

None-citizens can't own guns?

esga
  2/14/2017 13:56 EST

Giershift 43, good to hear someone who has been there recently and plans to keep considering it. My husband and I are still planning to go down to LC area this summer on exploratory visit. I will OK you with special specific site suggestions. I still find old fashioned we boards and forums like this most helpful. There are Facebook groups but I don't like k up much useful there.

esga
  2/14/2017 13:57 EST

Giershift 43, good to hear someone who has been there recently and plans to keep considering it. My husband and I are still planning to go down to LC area this summer on exploratory visit. I will OK you with special specific site suggestions. I still find old fashioned web boards and forums like this most helpful. There are Facebook groups but I don't like k up much useful there.

esga
  2/14/2017 13:57 EST

Giershift 43, good to hear someone who has been there recently and plans to keep considering it. My husband and I are still planning to go down to LC area this summer on exploratory visit. I will OK you with special specific site suggestions. I still find old fashioned web boards and forums like this most helpful. There are Facebook groups but I don't pick up much useful there.

giershift43
  2/14/2017 14:01 EST

Thank you. I have emailed some of the people I met in Ajijic during our visit. Finding a place to rent will be a priority, but my heart still wants to buy. But I really need to live there a while first.

DeniseLR
  2/14/2017 14:29 EST

Right on CD.

eshieldsga
  2/14/2017 14:55 EST

Probably changes in the exchange rate will continue to favor the dollar - but we don't know what effect different policies will have on each other, so it's not certain. And I completely agree with the rest of your thought: misery for my hosts will not make me happy.

eshieldsga
  2/14/2017 15:01 EST

Giershift, I agree that people from US usually have preference to buy, but it may not make much sense in other countries. From what I hear, houses stay on the market in Chapala area for several years. When people buy for all cash, they are not carrying mortgages, and utilities, insurance & taxes are low, so people aren;'t made desperate by cash outflow. However, it appears quite a few people ultimately have to return to US for medical reasons, and I don't want to be without the cash to buy again in the US if we have to. It is a very complicated decision if you try to prepare for different outcomes. If you just throw your heart into it and don't care what might happen in 5 or 10 years, then buying probably seems to make more sense.
Apologies for multiple copies of earlier post - I kept getting error messages and hit resend.

lindaceleste
  2/14/2017 15:36 EST

In response to Janice1950, DeniseLR suggests that I got my feelings hurt from comments made by her on a different thread (Trump protests...) when I simply offered information regarding "a day without immigrants" that could possibly occur in the US.
The user name in that exchange was Pedroal. Perhaps DeniseLR has two posting accounts.
RVGringo was right to point out the prohibition of in country political protest by non Mexicans.

Just to clarify, I have been considering expatriation to Latin America for over 25 years and have made numerous solo trips to Mexico and Guatemala, the shortest of which was two weeks.
I was in Oaxaca 3 weeks last fall and am returning to for 5 weeks in April to find long term housing.
I am not afraid.

giershift43
  2/14/2017 16:26 EST

Your advice is appreciated. I know homes are purchased cash and hard to sell. It makes sense to rent, if I can find what I want. It also gives me greater flexibility to travel in general.. I just saw a house I like. I need to be cause. Even if I rent at a higher rate than I planned, it pays to stay liquid. You give thoughtful and helpful responses.

richmcintyre
  2/14/2017 16:34 EST

Deb, this board is for expats and those who will be shortly. WHY DO YOU CLOG IT WITH YOUR OPINIONS?

richmcintyre
  2/14/2017 16:34 EST

Deb, this board is for expats and those who will be shortly. WHY DO YOU CLOG IT WITH YOUR OPINIONS?

richmcintyre
  2/14/2017 16:34 EST

Deb, this board is for expats and those who will be shortly. Why do you clog it with your uninformed opinions?

richmcintyre
  2/14/2017 16:34 EST

Deb, this board is for expats and those who will be shortly. Why do you clog it with your uninformed opinions?

DeniseLR
  2/14/2017 16:41 EST

I don't need to be patted on the back or lauded because I spent 3 weeks in Oaxaca or have 'considered' moving abroad for,,,25/years. Wow! Don't know about Pedroal. I commented that when one political group, the ones that won, are playing hardball it is too late to play softball. Maybe that's one that didn't get printed. Probably should have done that before the election. Now go back to Mexico and feel like you're special because you spent a few weeks slumming. I have a friend who spent 4 years in a Mexican prison. That's more real to me than all your privileged BS.

DeniseLR
  2/14/2017 16:41 EST

I don't need to be patted on the back or lauded because I spent 3 weeks in Oaxaca or have 'considered' moving abroad for,,,25/years. Wow! Don't know about Pedroal. I commented that when one political group, the ones that won, are playing hardball it is too late to play softball. Maybe that's one that didn't get printed. Probably should have done that before the election. Now go back to Mexico and feel like you're special because you spent a few weeks slumming. I have a friend who spent 4 years in a Mexican prison. That's more real to me than all your privileged BS.

DeniseLR
  2/14/2017 16:53 EST

Ms. Mcyntire, Are you sure you don't mean Denise? Deb is pleasant and polite. I don't generally go after anyone in particular, unlike yourself. Unless someone starts on me. Just express my opinions. Don't read them if you don't approve, and how do you know who is a future or current expat? Mind reading?

stevenlloyd
  2/14/2017 17:05 EST

Donald Trump: Making Everyone Hate Again :o(

giershift43
  2/14/2017 17:26 EST

LOL It would be nice to have a day without drama, but I do not see that happening as long as he is president. I hope our long time allies hang in there with us.

DeniseLR
  2/14/2017 18:04 EST

Well folks, if you feel the way I do about Agent Orange I can overlook a lot of your character flaws. As I hope you can with me. At this point we need to hang together, or else...well, you know how the rest goes. Peace.

MexJuan1
  2/15/2017 00:23 EST

The "Red-Headed Devil" will be dishonorably impeached within 6 months or less over his collusion with Russia. We will all have to deal with the fallout but, at least, he'll be gone. What damage it will cause in the mean time, no one can guess but he, Bannon, Conway, Miller and the rest of the Alt-right, bigoted, Nationalist, Fascist regime will all fall with him. The USA has no president and currently, no leadership and the investigation into the collusion from the campaign til now, the evidence, is held by the Intelligence Community and the Media. Two entities that were attempted to be discredited and silenced. A Fascist, "King Like", dictatorial move in and of itself. Mexico will persist and thrive and remain the beautiful country it is, currently. Viva Mexico!!! America has been weakened by "his" sheer presence but will rise from his ashes... Time to "Lawyer Up" boys! Reminiscent of "All the Presidents Men" and Nixon. Rent it, watch it...

tucevich
  2/15/2017 00:32 EST

Omg-- MexJuan..,yet another totally stupid political rant. Have not yet realized this is not a political site? Especially with stupid comments ????????

MexJuan1
  2/15/2017 00:36 EST

Crawl back into your little hole tuvevich and stop trying to act like this all doesn't affect Mexico! Your defense of the indefensible is ignorant...

tucevich
  2/15/2017 07:56 EST

Ah yes, another moronic response from MexJuan! You, sir, are an idiot. Once again-- this is not a site for you to expound on your political views (idiotic as they are). Go to a political site and opine away, just not here,

giershift43
  2/15/2017 09:13 EST

Off hand, I think it is better not to respond to the emotional posts. For the political scene, we will see how it plays out. No point in jumping a head.

giershift43
  2/15/2017 09:13 EST

Off hand, I think it is better not to respond to the emotional posts. For the political scene, we will see how it plays out. No point in jumping a head.

MexJuan1
  2/15/2017 09:17 EST

One can always hope! There are signs of great hope, you've got to admit...

giershift43
  2/15/2017 09:23 EST

I agree. But let's stay calm and know we are still in uncharted territory. The purpose of the blog is to help expats and those planning to become expats. We need to deal with whatever reality we are handed as calmly and rationally as we can. So far I am still planning on making Lake Chapala my second home.

MexJuan1
  2/15/2017 09:28 EST

Good luck with that move. I hope things go well for you!

GigiB87
  2/15/2017 09:54 EST

Well... I hope Juan is correct. Clearly the jefes of Expat Exchange don't mind posts that aren't related specifically to, or written by, current expats. The thread's title is self explanatory. Mexican people are battered by the wealthy few and an economic system that channels wealth into the pockets of a few. Even the cartels do this. The American people are headed down that road, and have been hoodwinked by a billionaire putting policies into place that.favor billionaires. And appointing billionaires (Linda McMahon, really...?) to important posts. Viva la gente!

MexJuan1
  2/15/2017 12:14 EST

Thank you Gigi. Intelligent, introspective and educated support is always welcome in a culture of name calling and false blame.
I'd like to bring up one other, totally verified point. In the last week or so, Iran, who is aligned with Russia, Russia and N. Korea have all 3, against Nuclear testing agreements, tested short range and in Russia's case, an ICBM (with NO STATEMENT OR PROTEST) Coincidentally, on Flynn's dismissal, Russia cruised an SSI (Satellite Security Intelligence) gathering vessel 75 miles off the coast of the US from Georgia to Delaware. Russia has installed a weak, incomplete, "criminal" into the white house, invaded (proven) the Free Worlds Democratic Process as it continues to do so in other countries that have reported the same so, why? Coincidental? The World is at hand and due to the fact the Mexico is part of the World, 3rd largest trade partner to the US, like it or not, talking about Mexico is a salient subject. ICE is reporting innocent ppl who have done NOTHING but seek a better life for their families. Expats have gone to Mexico to seek an affordable, relaxed, better life for themselves as well. Hope all of your papers are in order and as all of you, well, know. That may not even matter so, those who choose to stick there heads in the sand, attack me and defend this Fascist Regime of Russian influence are NOT dealing with reality. Maybe too much booze, pot, too many visits to la farmacia but, definitely, ignorance of reality.

tucevich24
  2/15/2017 12:27 EST

MexJuan --Keep your tinfoil hat on and please take your meds. What an idiot!

tucevich24
  2/15/2017 12:28 EST

MexJuan --Keep your tinfoil hat on and please take your meds. What an idiot!

MexJuan1
  2/15/2017 12:34 EST

Again, no substance on an indefensible position. And name calling. Very sad... But expected.

tucevich24
  2/15/2017 12:37 EST

Hey Moron--your entire posts are all about you name calling! You are obviously to stupid to recognize your own rants!

MexJuan1
  2/15/2017 12:39 EST

I sight facts. You have none!

nelsonokelmgmailcom
  2/15/2017 12:43 EST

MexJuan1 -- This urinating contest is going nowhere. Take it to email if you must squabble like kids.

tucevich24
  2/15/2017 12:50 EST

Juan--first learn to spell (it is cite facts not sight facts). Moron--you are not citing facts--- intelligence means critical thinking and evaluation (connecting the dots). All you ever do is rant and spew leftist talking points. Trump has only been in office for one month and you are citing as fact that he will be impeached in 6 months--hey, idiot. In order to be be impeached, it must originate in the House of Representatives and the House is solidly in support of Trump. Obviously that doesn't matter to you--anything contrary to your moronic rants you simply ignore and continue to spew your venom.

stevenlloyd
  2/15/2017 13:13 EST

It seems there is only one poster here this morning spewing venom and it certainly isn't Juan.

WoodwindWayne
  2/15/2017 14:44 EST

Oh no...certainly not the geyser extraordinaire...would anyone agree with "spouting" leftist talking points?

MexJuan1
  2/15/2017 15:17 EST

How about the truth? Or doesn't that matter anymore in the age of "alternative facts"?

tucevich
  2/15/2017 15:51 EST

Still spouting the lefts talking points, eh Juan? Ever have an original thought? You are the king of "alternate facts!" You have absolutely no idea of what's true or not. Get a clue. Juan. Read something reliable and give your moronic rants a rest.

Launia
  2/15/2017 16:21 EST

Tucevidh. With your mentality, how could you talk about Expat life in Mexico? You are also very rude. How sad to have people like you writing on this group. I wonder where is the adminstrator.

kgarbo43
  2/15/2017 16:27 EST

I wished Juan would stop all this he is probably the one who stirs up more negative comments around this is NOT a political forum let him go back to the States where he belongs wonder what he is hiding from

kgarbo43
  2/15/2017 16:29 EST

Amen to this Tucevich

GigiB87
  2/15/2017 16:36 EST

Why do you feel compelled to read posts you abhor and criticize Juan, or Denise, or whomever rather than getting your (fat?)rear end off the couch and going for a walk. And are you incapable of intelligently criticizing his ideas? Or are personal attacks all you can muster? Read the thread's heading. Are his comments really that irrelevant?

kgarbo43
  2/15/2017 16:38 EST

Wished there was a way to block Mexjuan when is he going to get the message nobody cares what he says there I something wrong with him

GigiB87
  2/15/2017 16:41 EST

To tucebich: Calm down, dude. Put on your Carl Rove T-shirt and pink sweat pants and go for a long walk.

MexJuan1
  2/15/2017 17:29 EST

I am "hiding" from nothing. I worked hard for 42 years in the states as a law abiding citizen, raised 3 children and have 2 grandchildren, then retired to Mexico to relax which is,exactly,what I am doing. I'm an educated man who is deeply concerned with the chaotic deterioration of the World, which, again includes Mexico and appalled that a criminal con man and pathological liar who is not mentally fit or competent to lead the country of my birth. To the original question, Anti-American Sentiment towards ex pats by Mexico/Mexicans has and will increase putting us in harms way until, when and if he is removed by any means possible. He and the ppl around him are extremely dangerous to the stability of America and the World. ICE began deporting "The Dreamers" today. DACA. children who have done NOTHING wrong and are born citizens of the US. So how do you think Mexico might react to that situation? Like I said, I hope all ex pats situations are in order. Retaliation from the erratic Mexican officials may be highly unpredictable. Thinking, thoughtful ppl should be concerned and dialogue doesn't threaten anyone of that ilk. Well, it shouldn't anyway...

giershift43
  2/15/2017 17:46 EST

Good and thoughtful response.

MexJuan1
  2/15/2017 17:48 EST

Thank you...

stevenlloyd
  2/15/2017 17:50 EST

There is a reason Trump supporters become so defensive when anyone dares be critical of their Fuhrer. It is called “cognitive dissonance”. They have liked to use the term, but they should look it up first.

Iturbide
  2/15/2017 17:54 EST

Agree with Loyd, second Giershift and believe MexJuan's posts relevant to this forum, am on same page on his thoughts.

tucevich24
  2/15/2017 18:37 EST

Jeez, another idiot. FYI Carl Rove is anti-Trump and has raised millions opposing anything Trump. He is a former Bush political operative. He is very much part of the DC Swamp...smug, arrogant and lacks any principals other that money and power. If you want to insult me, at have some basic factual knowledge.

tucevich24
  2/15/2017 18:42 EST

Well, Launia--that is precisely the problem. This site is supposed to be about helping each other as ex-pats or potential ex-pats. Instead, we are continuously subjected to moronic political rants by idiots that haven't a clue what they are talking about. This is NOT a political discussion site (unless it's Mexican politics that affect us). Keep your US politics off this site!

stevenlloyd
  2/15/2017 18:54 EST

The title of this thread is the Effects of policies of new administration on lives of expats living in Mexico? That would leave most reasonable readers to guess the topic of discussion is the effects of policies of new administration on lives of expats living in Mexico. Sounds kind of political, and also very relevant for ex-pats or people considering becoming ex-pats. That defensiveness you feel is a symptom of cognitive dissonance. Your venomous rants are not helpful.

tucevich24
  2/15/2017 18:57 EST

Hey dipstick-- the venomous rants are what I have been objecting to...

GigiB87
  2/15/2017 19:07 EST

Okay then, tucebich, apologies about the Carl Rove T-shirt. Just put on the pink sweat pants and go for a long walk. (Agree w/you about C.R. What makes D.T. so great?)

GigiB87
  2/15/2017 19:37 EST

3 questions, Tucevich. 1. Do you believe in Darwinian evolution. 2. Does climate change exist, and if so is it at least in part man made? 3. Do you believe Supply side economics, espoused by Professor Laffer, is a viable engine for the creation of private sector jobs. Extra Credit; Will a holy war in the Mideast set the stage for the world's end and the return of Christ to save those who have had their sins forgiven?

Cozumeldeb
  2/15/2017 20:21 EST

Note the topic, effects of Trump policies on lives of ex pats in MX. We bought in 2001, been coming here since 1989, so experience talks..If you've not noticed numerous marches against Trump have been happening..And if u think Mexicans have ANY RESPECT for Trump, you are mistaken. Move along.

Cozumeldeb
  2/15/2017 20:24 EST

This is an opinion site for both new & long term ex pats and how US events may effect Americans..so tuevich..blow it out your ear..Thankfully Dems far outnumber rethugs in MX.

stevenlloyd
  2/15/2017 20:27 EST

"Hey dipstick-- the venomous rants are what I have been objecting to... "

LOLOLOL!!! Irony is one of the best forms of comedy.

GigiB87
  2/16/2017 09:12 EST

Que paso, tucebich? Porque no quiere preguntar? No es una pregunta bastante facil?

DeniseLR
  2/16/2017 09:19 EST

It's a simple question, no?

tucevich
  2/16/2017 12:08 EST

Yo no respondo a un imbecile

WoodwindWayne
  2/16/2017 12:17 EST

Ja ja ja! almost as funny as MJ being offended at the namecalling of others. Go ahead SL, skew a little criticism of a specific poster into an endorsement of D-D-D-Donald...Personally, I prefer the skewing of shrimps...

WoodwindWayne
  2/16/2017 12:21 EST

Gigi, would'nt a "yes" to #1 require a "no" to the extra credit? Scratching my head...

WoodwindWayne
  2/16/2017 12:33 EST

"Skewering" of shrimp? still scratching :)

GigiB87
  2/16/2017 13:19 EST

Un grupo de cobardes. O, posiblemente, un cobarde con dos nombres?

GigiB87
  2/16/2017 13:44 EST

Well. This is the end of the thread for me. I logged in when my boyfriend had his Baja thread taken over by idiots. He was just asking for help. And my comments were coming up with his name because I was using his computer.
I started this thread to answer the question posed, and to raise the level of discourse. I was attacked by what appeared to be a bunch of little old ladies who, despite my attempt to be policy oriented,, seemed to think I was putting on airs and telling them how to think. I can only conclude this: living conditions for most are worse in Mexico, which is why many choose to come here. But like in the US if you have enough $$$ you can feel safe anywhere, and these people can live a high level life style in Mexico. They are terrified, even though they don't admit it, that the Mexican governmen might turn on them and deport them or confiscate their property, tit for tat. I don't blame them. That's what ICE is doing to their citizens here.
Then I changed my handle to Gigi87/and started running down the real morons, in my opinion. I was much more popular once I started sniping. Some of these people are so poorly informed it is like shooting ducks in a barrel. No challenge. A lot more support and private messages patting me, metaphorically, on the back. And some of them are frauds just trying to upset others. Not a thrill for me unless they are upset because they can't handle the truth. Es todo. Peace and respect fot the honest and brave. Pity for the liars and fools.
DLR

tucevich24
  2/16/2017 17:47 EST

No problemo, mi amigo. By the way, I never said Trump was great. Way too soon to tell (one month?) But all he is doing thus far is keeping his campaign promises (which, in and of itself is unique and refreshing). What I object to are these repeated hysterical rants with absolutely no basis in fact. Having worked on the Hill, I personally know many of the folks on both sides of the aisle (I was democrat professional staff by the way). Trust me, DC is a swamp and a bubble that ignores the folks in what they derisively refer to as "flyover country"--those are the folks that elected Trump en masse.

kgarbo43
  2/16/2017 18:45 EST

Same here Gigi I am so tired seeing all this on this forum You said it all.Next thing they will talk about is religion.If expats would protest against the Mexican Government they would get arrested no matter if you there legal.That's their law.
Good luck to you

WoodwindWayne
  2/16/2017 19:05 EST

yeah, you're so straight up that you don't answer an honest question.....still scratching my head...happy trails to both of you....

Launia
  2/16/2017 19:07 EST

Agree with you.

WoodwindWayne
  2/16/2017 19:12 EST

The last post was for the gringa con dos nombres.....

WoodwindWayne
  2/16/2017 19:39 EST

Hi Tuce.....my skewed comment was aimed at he who finds irony amusing.....Seems no one here has done any backchecking of MJs previous posts.....

stevenlloyd
  2/16/2017 22:51 EST

“Hi Tuce.....my skewed comment was aimed at he who finds irony amusing”

Irony - and folk who, in the absence of aptitude to provide productive contribution to the subject material (as evidenced by the thread title), instead complain of scratching skewered shrimp. That’s amusing too.

Still, there have been enough folk here willing to stay on the topic of the effects of policies of the new administration on the lives of expats living in Mexico to give those of us considering that particular move cause for pause. No need to discuss this further here. It is true it has only been one month, but those people who so naively suggested we would see a different person as president once he was elected were obviously far off that mark. Not all of us choose to live in impregnable bubbles of our own making.

WoodwindWayne
  2/17/2017 11:05 EST

Agree with some of what you say....and by the way, I am often trying to be funny....(sometimes I crack me up)....but there's more irony to be found with a little digging. Pues, you're right, off topic and beside the point. Not complaining about the seafood, the shrimp are fine. Pass the skewers......and may the posts here be civil, whether informative or not..

GigiB87
  2/17/2017 18:45 EST

Just wondered if anyone other than myself has read US government travel warnings posted on this site. Please, just read it, don't read it. Whatever. Don't ask me what my point is, or tell me you are not afraid, or try to sell me your house. (Or hit on me w/private messages. Comments about travel warnings appreciated, latest I think end of last year. Interesting to see if the advent of A.O. (yes, waaaaaay too early to assess his, er.....
Presidency?) will show much of an uptick in problems. This is still DeniseLR, but the damn website won't let me log back in w/my name. Cursed for my sins!

MexJuan1
  2/17/2017 20:49 EST

Don't worry about what others think. Say what you want to say with conviction and without apologies. The "King" lies through his teeth every time he opens his mouth then doubles down in it when called out. You know he's lying when his lips are moving. BTW, ALL illegal immigrants are now considered "criminals" by this incompetent, bigoted, fascist administration (most Dems shut out of the meeting determining this action. The ones that made it in were shocked and appalled) so, the uptick will certainly be coming and in a multidimensional fashion, no doubt. We can only hope what Jimmy Fallon said last night in his impersonation of a. o. does happen. If you didn't see it, catch it on YouTube. "4 MORE WEEKS, 4 MORE WEEKS! " SO FUNNY!!!. Thank you for your input and say what you want to say when you want to say it. The "Free World" isn't dead... Yet! Stay Safe!!!

GigiB87
  2/17/2017 20:58 EST

I knew this was going to be a mistake... Agree with you mostly, but if I said exactly what was on my mind I'd be kicked off website. And how abooouuuttt those travel warnings?

MexJuan1
  2/17/2017 21:29 EST

A, yes, ME TOO! I temper what I say sticking to facts (not that they matter anymore?!) and the remaining intellect I have after 65 years of dealing with this messed up World (never as messed up as this, of course) and the ppl within. And, of course, I've mellowed quite a bit over the years. Thankfully, a natural occurrence.
As for the US State Dept's Travel Warnings coupled with what "El Duce" is doing to Mexico, they'll only get worse, I'm sure. I, truly, believe, he's out to get/destroy Mexico, among many other countries that he will give "license" to Putin to consume. It's been widely reported and theorized that his presidency will empower Dictators of the World. Already shown by his admiration, praise and collusion with Russia. I wonder if the Mexican Govt. warns it's citizens about traveling to Chicago, Detroit, L.A., Oakland, Cleveland, etc?

WoodwindWayne
  2/17/2017 21:41 EST

ok, y'all say what you want to say.. Hola, MexJuan.... May I suggest, one mo' time, that you check out the blog by two expats currently living in Akumal...Denise, Paul is a retired Lieutenant from the Sheriffs dept. in Polk Cty, Fla. and he states that he and his wife feel safer in Quintana Roo than in their previous loctation in Fla. Qroo.us That's boots on the ground, and more current than the government postings.....ok. En addicion, in my opinon, off topic, and who gives a care, Albuquerque,when observed at night from an elevated observation point, could be described as a bowl of diamonds....amazing....y'all take care...

WoodwindWayne
  2/17/2017 22:14 EST

MJ, you wanna get really converse, how about US warnings about US travel....2009...beware of swine flu...Shaking in my.....flip-flops? Go on up to Chicago (bang, bang!) and get your inoculation. Happy trails...

GigiB87
  2/17/2017 22:31 EST

Don't give up Juan. We need to give up petty differences and stick together. And Albuquerque is beautiful from a distance, WW, but these days at the top in murder rate, car theft, crimes against children. State government is tone deaf, contentious and corrupt and running out of $$$. But once you get out of town it is beautiful, Gila National Forest, Apache National Forest, Magdalena Mountains.... And easy to forget all the temporary, petty BS.

WoodwindWayne
  2/17/2017 23:17 EST

Too bad there's not an app for that .....plug me in and turn me off...choose a wake-up point..........ummmm....self-hypnosis...count your breaths...5, 6, 7,.....7,..? Buenas noches..zz

GigiB87
  2/18/2017 10:55 EST

B'friend is a big NBA fan. I was tempted to start a thread asking who believes the earth is flat. That should help us sort out who to at least attempt to take seriously. No offense meant, flat earthers in Albuquerque.....

GigiB87
  2/18/2017 11:14 EST

And if travel warnings are 'fake news,,', by the way, why don't you do what I have done in the past and let me know how it goes: 1. drive from US to Guatemala border and back, camping out and travelling as much after dark as during the day, 2.driving the length of Baja and then taking ferry to Mazatlan and driving up to US border, camping on the beach and in countryside. and 3. taking a Mexican bus to Chihuahua, then train to Copper Canyon and Mexican bus down into canyon. Try wearing a Trump baseball cap on top of all that and tell me how that works out for you. Not bragging, just things we loved to do.

MexJuan1
  2/18/2017 12:49 EST

And O.J. didn't murder Nicole Brown/Ron Goldman and we NEVER stepped on the Moon either. Funny how Simpson was in Capricorn One, isn't it? Well, at least, he's where he belongs now and the Mc"Donald" Clown will be joining Richard Nixon soon. That one will be a truth... The World IS flat, isn't it? And over 7 billion ppl driving cars and trucks and leaching massive pollution into the air, sea and land on this Earth, man made pollution have had ZERO effect on the climate, right? I was in PDC in 1994 when there we're about 10,000 ppl there and not many cars and no highway. Very clean, very pristine. Not so much now. Still very beautiful but the Carbon Footprint can, easily, be seen, noticed, felt and smelled. Crazy ppl can be convinced to believe just about anything! Can't they. Oh yes, and Obama is a terrorist born in Kenya, right A.O.? Can't forget that one!!! Quite the purveyor of purposeful "fake" news! His numbers are even down in Russia! Better watch out if you eat dinner in Russia, D.T.

GigiB87
  2/18/2017 12:54 EST

Exactly, Juan. I'm thinking of starting a new thread (note I'm about that age myself, so open to criticism if I start losing it) called; GET OFF MY LAWN! Say anything you want about anything. We won't take you too seriously. Apologies to lawns everywhere.

Iturbide
  2/18/2017 17:25 EST

Honest Abe Lincoln rolling in his grave, Statue of Liberty is in mourning, Dictators & terrorists worldwide emboldened, bleak future for grandkids and environment, the loss of truths, etc., etc. Majority of foreign retirees, in Mexico cherish freedoms, social justice and plain common human decency. Reminds me of an old Johnny Cash song with lyrics: leave your guns at home

Iturbide
  2/18/2017 17:25 EST

Honest Abe Lincoln rolling in his grave, Statue of Liberty is in mourning, Dictators & terrorists worldwide emboldened, bleak future for grandkids and environment, the loss of truths, etc., etc. Majority of foreign retirees, in Mexico cherish freedoms, social justice and plain common human decency. Reminds me of an old Johnny Cash song with lyrics: leave your guns at home

giershift43
  2/18/2017 17:28 EST

I like your comments.

MexJuan1
  2/18/2017 17:30 EST

Or, nowadays, repeal a law prohibiting mentally Ill ppl from buying them (guns). Nothing makes sense anymore! NRA= NO REGARD for ANYONE.

giershift43
  2/18/2017 17:50 EST

I agree. None of it makes sense. What happened to promoting the common welfare..

WoodwindWayne
  2/18/2017 18:00 EST

So, who said that US Travel Warnings are fake news....Guess I missed that post. Sorry to interrupt the ping-pong game, carry on...

Iturbide
  2/18/2017 18:04 EST

WW; pong, dong and Wrong !!!

GigiB87
  2/18/2017 18:09 EST

Not sure what that means but I like it. Stepping back, off the lawn, to the curb. There.... Better?

GigiB87
  2/18/2017 18:17 EST

Sorry, WW, guess we're tag teaming you. Then, having mentioned that, I start having nightmares about A.O head lining the next Wrestlemania. Not impossible!

Iturbide
  2/18/2017 18:20 EST

Believe those who have adverse, negative views on Mexico, do not live in in Mexico, (why would they?)and should not post , troll behind fake ids and pollute this forum.

giershift43
  2/18/2017 18:21 EST

I don't know why anyone would say that they are fake news. Some people I have talked with from the Chapala area have said that the reports are over blown. It is not like we do not have crime in the State. And the heartland has become the center of opiod addiction. One should exercise reasonable caution wherever you live.

WoodwindWayne
  2/18/2017 18:22 EST

Gong, Gooooong! Long Duck Dong....smoke tendrils coming from a big ole bong...

WoodwindWayne
  2/18/2017 18:29 EST

Sorry, I'm stuck on the lawn....

Iturbide
  2/18/2017 18:32 EST

Nice ! Remain stuck !

WoodwindWayne
  2/18/2017 18:38 EST

Thanks, now let's make faces!

GigiB87
  2/18/2017 20:17 EST

A quien se refiere, Iturbe?

Iturbide
  2/18/2017 20:39 EST

Not to ye, dear, but to WW and all the closet and real Trumpistas.

Iturbide
  2/18/2017 20:39 EST

Not to ye, dear, but to WW and all the closet and real Trumpistas.

GigiB87
  2/18/2017 20:41 EST

So let's get this straight. Mexico is the 12th largest country in the world, and and some expat is telling me, as an expert, that impressions of the country are wrong. Kind of like me telling you, living in New Mexico, that your impressions of Miami are incorrect. Now, there are a lot of people that are being rounded up by ICE. It is terrible and there are protests daily, but....where do they not want to go? And why is that? Because these days Mexico is only kind to the well off, such as yourselves. Indians, the lower classes, not so much. Now is it the same everywhere? Obviously not, no more so than in the U.S. And the ridiculous false equivalencies, problems in the U.S. too. Give me a friggin break. That is the logic that led to the election of O A. over H.R.C. I give up. I now claim to be the residence expert of the entire US. Just don't ask me any intelligent questions. Sorry if I offended anybody, but my God...!!!

GigiB87
  2/18/2017 20:47 EST

Sorry Iturbe, if you were here I would let you give me a swift kick. So easy to misread texts when no emotional content. I am going out in the back yard and say a bunch of Hail Marys. Except I just heard gunfire. Seriously. Lo Siento.
Denise Lucia Robles

WoodwindWayne
  2/18/2017 22:45 EST

Iturbide, the general consensus has been to give all the hateful rhetoric a rest. Some just can't and they prove it every day. Can you?

























be aware that many posts here are subject to misinterpretation ......which you have apparently done in my case....

WoodwindWayne
  2/18/2017 23:11 EST

OOPS, substitute divisive for hateful...my turn to be fair....out.

Iturbide
  2/19/2017 08:31 EST

No worries Denise ! ; mea culpa, should have been more clear. Am agreeable with your points, which are quite informative. Up here, north of the U.S. border, most are tolerant, there was solidarity from all towards the mosque killings in Quebec; you must know who emboldened the sick kid who did that. Sorry to digress a little bit on that.........

GigiB87
  2/20/2017 17:16 EST

WW. Why don't you tell us where you stand? Most of your posts have been reactionary and often confusing. On the 4 questions I posed I think Climate Change exists, is bad news and has a large manmade component. Darwinism, I agree with though I don't think incompatible with Christianity. Supply side economics is mostly beneficial for the wealthy. And, there may be a big assed shootin' war in Mideast but it won't be the event that brings back J.C. to lead the forgiven to paradise. (If it did, tell me where to sign up!)/Now your turn.

WoodwindWayne
  2/20/2017 19:19 EST

G: some of your posts have been reactionary and somewhat confusing too.. Climate change: exists and has a man-made component. The extent of this change that is man-made is unknown. Darwinism: evolution makes sense to me, but evolved from what: Creation? A big bang? Supply side economics: Beneficial to all. Talk about wars and the after-life. Not going there on this site....Next it would be a war between the religions...

GigiB87
  2/20/2017 19:45 EST

Specifically what have I said that is reactionary (agree with confusion, but mine or yours?) What on earth does the way species evolve have to do with the big bang? It does encompass a billion years of earth's history, more or less. Supply side economics might be fairly effective if businesses and labor markets were competitive and profits weren't channelled to high level executives and owners who spin us a story about their genius level acumen, and no price is to high to pay for that ,,(not). And then they move just across the boarder, or Vietnam or ,China,, and pay workers a pittance. So what do you think about s climate change denier heading the EPA? Why won't you answer the religious question? Afraid. of a visit by some new American Taliban? We'd better express ourselves while we still can.

GigiB87
  2/20/2017 19:50 EST

Sorry about misspelling. And if I could log out and back on with name I was born with...
DLR

WoodwindWayne
  2/20/2017 20:00 EST

So, you ask questions, so you can pounce on the answers? What's the benefit?

WoodwindWayne
  2/20/2017 21:21 EST

What came before this beginning of the evolving of species. Creation? Big Bang? Other? So the earth could have been created by God, with evolution developing from that creation. But so what? Why did you ask in the first place?

stevenlloyd
  2/20/2017 21:26 EST

The only thing we can conclude for certain (while we've gone off on this philosophical tangent) is that the election of Donald Trump as president is proof positive time travel never gets invented.

WoodwindWayne
  2/20/2017 21:31 EST

Didn't mean to, I was lured...

GigiB87
  2/20/2017 21:32 EST

I wanted to try to determine your politics and where you stand on issues of the day, some of which, literally, are killing us. I'm pretty sure you get that. If you are a reasonable human being (still to be determined,,) you are open to reason.

WoodwindWayne
  2/20/2017 21:40 EST

OK, your honor....

WoodwindWayne
  2/20/2017 21:44 EST

(as in Judge)

WoodwindWayne
  2/20/2017 21:56 EST

Time for a break....got some Sade, Toni Braxton and Diana Krall qued up....may segue into a little Santana :You Got To Change Your Evil Ways (you unreasonable beast) And does anyone want to talk about Mexico anytime soon?

ghammond
  2/21/2017 10:52 EST

You know. I come to this form to read about Mexico, it's people, and places. Not to read the rants of a bunch of mental midgets who are legends in their own minds. So many of you seem vicious, and full of hate. Perhaps you should go to the beach and chill for a month or so.

GigiB87
  2/21/2017 11:02 EST

Please enlighten us as to why we are 'mental midgets' and you are not. Or dont. And, by the way, what was the title of the thread? Go to the topics you find more interesting, then. Oh wait, only a few responses. That is because the current administration in Washington is dominating the news. A bunch of people that dont want to go are being sent to Mexico and many others are questionning whether they should go at this time. If you want something that might challenge you intellectually, google Kyrie Irving and 'Flat Earth,'.

giershift43
  2/21/2017 11:24 EST

Can't we just get a long and be respectful in our disagreements. Name calling only shows anger and does not prove anything. How about someone address everyday life in Mexico?
Can someone compare the coastal life to say, Lake Chapala area?

ghammond
  2/21/2017 13:17 EST

GigiB87- Thank you for proving my point !!! As for me I'm heading for the beach to chill, and rid myself of some of your toxins.

GigiB87
  2/21/2017 15:10 EST

If you have any toxins you consumed them yourself. You were the name caller....right? It is very easy on the internet to refuse to take an honest stance and sit back and whine and snipe and cry. Hear no evil, see no evil, etc...
Oh wait, you're at the beach.

GigiB87
  2/21/2017 15:28 EST

I support your efforts to change the focus of this thread and it s stated topic. Let's talk about coastal life because, after all, this website is exclusively for those who either live overseas or absolutely intend to do so and anyone with serious concerns about what is going on Washington and its toxic effect on all Americans, including Mexicans ,(its part of North America) should absolutely be ignored, savagely attacked, or talked over.

Iturbide
  2/21/2017 17:54 EST

Gigi. Lloyd, Mexjuan, Cozdeb and others like minded , truly addressing Topic title, Beware of
alternate view non 'Mexican expat," wall builder, climate denial, ultra rightists, infiltrators who are not in, should not be, and never allowed in this "tierra lindo, country , Mexico. Before they read up on their history on the theft of the whole U.S. S.W. to truly appreciate Mexico'S past and present. BTW, during the largest empire in North America, after 1812, led by a Mexican emperor (guess his name) who formed the FIRST congress in NORTH America,during his time the FIRST university in North America(Morelia) etc. etc, etc. And now we have to consider the above topic ??? With An outdated term " expat" formed during the outdated colonial period. If still valid then should not the indigenous, first Americans, toiling in the tomato, fruit fields "North of the Border"" not be considered " expats" ? Instead illegals, instead of the real ones on the Mayflower" ?
Apologies on some digression again, but believe it relevant in bigger context of above topic.

tucevich
  2/21/2017 18:03 EST

Omg...yet another truly stupid comment

Cozumeldeb
  2/21/2017 18:07 EST

Tuevich..ever wonder why no agrees with you?

Iturbide
  2/21/2017 18:29 EST

FACTS matter, and will eventually trump alternate ones a,k.a. as fake news whose only pathetic i response is "OMG... ...another one etc.etc.; urge them to fact check or leave this forum.

WoodwindWayne
  2/21/2017 19:03 EST

So, anyone who doesn't agree with every single thing that you believe are all way over there on the far right? That notion displays somewhat of a disconnect from reality. A sane, rational person might conclude that someone who seeks information about Mexico and making a move there probably likes Mexico and Mexicans....regardless of who just won an election. Thankfully, you are not the gatekeeper. Ready? Pounce!!!!

GigiB87
  2/21/2017 19:47 EST

Problem with you, WW, is that you don't seem to have any opinions of your own. You just stand back and take pot shots at others who have the courage to express themselves. Reactionary. I do a little of that myself, admittedly, but I also try to be honest and fair.

WoodwindWayne
  2/21/2017 20:09 EST

No winning with you , G. Go pick on someone else, I've had enough.

Iturbide
  2/21/2017 20:23 EST

Hope you have had enough WW. You do not and are not welcome to the spirit of this forum; Go to try to the " make America great again" forum.
Obviously you and Tucabich are intruders with Trumpista agendas, You do NOT belong here !!!!!!!

giershift43
  2/21/2017 20:36 EST

Lol... don't answer them. They enjoy creating chaos like their hero.

stevenlloyd
  2/21/2017 21:18 EST

I always presumed people came on to these particular forums because they were either ex-pats or aspiring ex-pats (like myself) looking for information to help them make prudent decisions. I’ve seen thread titles ranging from getting around to getting health care to finding decent cat food, and if I logged on to one of those threads that is what I would expect the discussion to be focused on. When considering Mexico, I was not the least bit surprised to find a thread dedicated to discussion of the effects of policies of new administration on lives of expats living in Mexico. I suspected that this train wreck of events in United States was bound to have a detrimental impact, and I think most people choosing not to simply stick their heads further into the sand are recognizing the same. I am still surprised that some gringos can remain so oblivious, but it is amusing to watch them come on to a thread titled “effects of policies of new administration on lives of expats living in Mexico”, and then feign chagrin when someone dares to be critical of their Fuhrer.

GigiB87
  2/21/2017 21:21 EST

Obviously highly biased but I love it!

GigiB87
  2/21/2017 21:24 EST

Me highly biased, that is. Not the comment, which I thought was right on point.

WoodwindWayne
  2/21/2017 21:58 EST

Agree with don't answer them. Time to go to the beach. Tomorrow...

GigiB87
  2/23/2017 14:22 EST

I started this thread when my boyfriend gave up trying to get information about Baja living. No luck, but a lot of lectures about extraneous, almost unreadable misunderstood political issues. I started this threadcto tap that concern. Bet a dinner, which we are headed out to tonight, that I would get over 200 post. Must be close to a record. So thanks WW for all your short posts that are either inane or cryptic, or perhaps just coded messages by the high command (We'll check Alex Jones). Of course I'll keep on it and appreciate any further comments from the informed and interested. Peace
Denise Lucia Robles

GigiB87
  2/23/2017 15:39 EST

Dinner is at Garcia's Kitchen, by the way, Central Ave. +old route 66).

SMColley
  2/23/2017 16:24 EST

For someone like myself (single female) would you consider retirement to Mexico to be a smart move in these circumstances?

SMColley

giershift43
  2/23/2017 17:18 EST

I am not yet living in Mexico, but recently visited the Lake Chapala area. I met 2 single women who moved there on their own and love it.

WoodwindWayne
  2/23/2017 18:11 EST

Hi Gier...when you were in the Lake Chapala area, did you notice a problem with speed bumps?

giershift43
  2/23/2017 18:15 EST

I was in Ajijic and the surrounding villages including Chapala. There are a lot of cobblestone roads off the Carraterra. They were one long speed bump. I wonder what car you need to drive that won't be wrecked on those roads. I like the area in general and there is a large number of expats. The Lake Chapala Society is a great help.

Cozumeldeb
  2/23/2017 19:10 EST

i live in Cozumel and although I am married there are many single men & women throughout Yucatan & QRoo..Research areas u r interested in, go to their local ex-pat sites..Lake Chapela & Ajijic near Guadalajara is a huge ex-pat area, many singles retired there..Great medical care & international airport in GDL to go back to US when u want..Happy hunting..

Cozumeldeb
  2/23/2017 19:18 EST

i live in Cozumel and although I am married there are many single men & women throughout Yucatan & QRoo..Research areas u r interested in, go to their local ex-pat sites..Lake Chapela & Ajijic near Guadalajara is a huge ex-pat area, many singles retired there..Great medical care & international airport in GDL to go back to US when u want..Happy hunting..

WoodwindWayne
  2/23/2017 19:20 EST

I'm slowly getting rid of a house full of "stuff" in preparation for moving to Mexico, including a sports car with 6" ground clearance. Easier to sell everything and buy a car down there,if needed. Thanks for your response, and especially appreciate your post dated 2/21/2017 20:36est. The hero persists, with cast and crew intact....bon soir...

WoodwindWayne
  2/23/2017 19:22 EST

For Giershift, sorry..

giershift43
  2/23/2017 19:58 EST

Sorry for what?

GigiB87
  2/23/2017 21:28 EST

Good morning. I believe congratulations are in order. People with your ability to shut out extraneous noise and move right along.... After all, what you think is what you are! Now, we have a very special treat for you. Don't be modest! You never gave up and now you've managed to shut down a politically subversive thread ( maybe). WW and the rest, what troopers you are. Get ready to leave, no need to pack. You will soon be picked up and taken to your new home in Mexico. All expenses paid, just for you. Don't tell anyone, not for just anyone. And we don't call it Mexico, we call it 'The Island'.

GigiB87
  2/23/2017 21:52 EST

And who exactly is our hero, Gisrshift, You say we enjoy creating chaos ,(I say truth,) just like our hero. Could it beeeeee.......... Saaaaaaaaastaaan???!!!!
If true feel oh so sorry.

WoodwindWayne
  2/23/2017 22:02 EST

Explaining that my post directly above was meant for Gier, and sorry if it appeared out of sequence...because it came in beneath a couple of posts by CDeb....no biggie...

giershift43
  2/23/2017 22:18 EST

Whatever. I have no idea what you are talking about, But enjoy.

WoodwindWayne
  2/23/2017 22:31 EST

'K

GigiB87
  2/24/2017 11:58 EST

I encourage everyone to switch to the thread entitled ' the tired endless going nowhere political topic' (or something like that) and go nowhere endlessly with that happy crew.

GigiB87
  2/24/2017 12:46 EST

My god, I am going to ask the moderator to look into this thread myself. Still going strong. What an abomination. Have to look into this freedom of speech thing. What we need are more Stepford wives and husbands. Please move to the thread with no stated purpose other than the assertion that this thread has gone on long enough.

MexJuan1
  2/24/2017 13:10 EST

The effects as will this thread (as it should) will be massive and long lasting and like it or not, it is a pertinent subject for ex pats in Mexico. Follow the policies. Mass Deportation. Local Police and Sheriffs are being given ICE power. ALL sent to Mexico only! Guatemalans, Hondurans, El Salvadorians etc. 2 years, 11mil ppl sent back to Mexico. If you think that won't have an effect on you in some way, economic, socio-political, how you're perceived by the Mexican Officials and the Mexicanos, you're just being foolish. If you don't want to talk about it, don't! Either way, it's happening, will continue to do so and there will be consequences.

giershift43
  2/24/2017 14:17 EST

I know. This long standing practice. Not new just increase in activity.

GigiB87
  2/25/2017 12:37 EST

Is it time to let this topic die in peace? Before you decide, I urge you to read the thread set up, for some bizaare reason, as opposition to this one. Look at those who support that thread, and then look at the comments they have made, if any, as contributions to this thread. I think you might agree they are specious, trivial really. No real content. Those who try to present something substantive are ridiculed or ignored. Why is that? Nothing subversive or wildly ignorant was stated. And the dude actually asked the moderator to shut down the thread. On what grounds? We are headed for some perilous times in US/Mexican relations for sure. Maybe those of you with enough $$ can weather the storm. But the rest should at least be aware of the impending storm rather than close your eyes and whistle happy tunes.

MexJuan1
  2/25/2017 13:25 EST

Amen Gigi!!!

Cozumeldeb
  2/26/2017 14:03 EST

Agree, it's going to get worse for sure.. Interesting not much coverage on Tillerson/Kelly visit this past week..

MexJuan1
  2/26/2017 16:04 EST

That was just a "clean up" job for the damage done by their boss. You know, lime you go to school and apologize for your teenagers behavior. Nothing to report.

GigiB87
  2/26/2017 18:35 EST

Well, only 3 yrs. and +/- 10 months... Not funny, I guess.

giershift43
  2/26/2017 20:36 EST

Hope to survive it...

kgarbo43
  2/28/2017 11:21 EST

Blah blah blah give it up you guys

GigiB87
  2/28/2017 18:42 EST

Articulate.. Give what up, exactly? Hope?

GigiB87
  3/8/2017 11:54 EST

Our local news has just reported an undocumented man was recently arrested by ICE in a Texas courthouse. There has been substantial concern reported about this new practice. Attorneys and judiciary have displayed concern about the effects of ICE on the presence of victims and witnesses in court cases. Tone deaf foreign policy of new administration has negatively effected so many aspects of relations with Mexico, from value of the peso to imports of fruits and vegetables.

MexJuan1
  3/8/2017 18:47 EST

Well, I can't even comment. As per "tucevich", I'm just a "Moron" with political rage... Wait till they start separating kids from parents (already announced). Heartless (NOT) man. As soon as he gets the subpoena to show his financial records and tax returns, that's coming too (along with their Russian collusion) he'll turn tail like the criminal he is and resign. Then blame it on someone else with another phony, baloney tweet. Impeachment will NEVER happen for a Narcissist like that! Oh no, someone else must be blamed. Prediction: Jeff Sessions, the KKK AG, next to resign. You just can't lie to Congress. He'll be told to resign or they'll prosecute. Slap on the wrist for what he did and is. Sorry, the "real truth" really hurts...

tucevich
  3/8/2017 18:59 EST

MexJuan! The moron has chosen to once again expose us to his ongoing idiotic political rants. Hey moron, did you not see the news that the CIA under Obama had undertaken a massive spy network that uses your TV, cell phone, and virtually any device to literally watch or record you even when you think it is off? And that the CIA was able to make "leaks" appear to come from the Russians? That Trump Tower was bugged during the campaign? Read a legitimate news source for a change, nitwit! That was reported in the ultra liberal NY Times...

MexJuan1
  3/8/2017 19:22 EST

You mean @fakeNYTimes, as per your "capo de tout de capo",don't you? It's just so amazing how things work for you ppl when they do and don't when they don't. The "story" just somehow, magically works?! I worked in Las Vegas late 70's, early 80's for 8 years just before Tony Spilotro and Frank Rosenthal shut things down. I knew a lot of guys like this criminal. Just like the movie "Casino", this doesn't end well for the bad guys...

tucevich
  3/8/2017 19:26 EST

Omg-- MexJuan-- you are not even coherent.

MexJuan1
  3/8/2017 19:39 EST

Just go back to reading your Breitbart (Levin's radio show is over for today) and you'll sleep like a baby. Just fyi, Bill Cunningham, self professed "The Great American" but really the late night conspiracy theorist is on at 11:00PM. You could fall asleep to his rants with a smile on your face dreaming of an all Caucasian America like your heroes. That was a great comeback though. "Spicer-like" and very political. Not addressing the subject or the truth in what was stated.

giershift43
  3/8/2017 19:50 EST

Lol that's Mrs of extreme bias that obliterate facts. I like the times. The same people who bash the liberals assume the right is not propanda.

giershift43
  3/8/2017 19:51 EST

It is scary and service no purpose except to promote fear.

GigiB87
  3/8/2017 19:53 EST

We do know the full focus of the US national security machine is being focused, laser like, on AO and his minions. Should prove interesting. Levin is a rage fueled maniac like Weiner (Savage) who will say just about anything for ratings. Don't mind articulate conservatism but haven't seen many of those types around lately. Certainly not on this thread, sadly.

MexJuan1
  3/8/2017 19:59 EST

Exactly what's been done and accomplished by this, already, failed administration and it's "Fear Monger in Chief". I wonder if he and the Right will all "love Wikileaks" when they hack into and reveal the finances and tax returns of one of the most corrupt businessman on the planet?

giershift43
  3/8/2017 20:14 EST

I agree. I wish warren Buffet or Bill Gates would run. Why have so many decided brains are bad.

MexJuan1
  3/8/2017 20:27 EST

Because Delegates, The EC and Comrade Putin all decided that idiocy and incompetence works better for them, I guess. "He" (and Ryan) are fixing to stick it to all the ppl who voted for him right now by jamming through The American Health Care Act (FOR THE WEALTHY). Does anyone think that the millions of ppl who lose their Health Ins. and the 50 and 60 year olds who will be paying 10-12K/year just for Catastrophic Care will still support him when that happens.? Oh, I forgot. I can think of 1...

kgarbo43
  3/8/2017 21:22 EST

HOW CAN I CAN GET OFF THIS REDICUIOLUS FORUM I AM TIRED SEEING ALL THIS BS YOU ALL NEED TO GET A LIFE GET OVER IT ARE YOU GUYS AMERICAN OR WHAT TRIED TO UNSUBSCRIBE NO LUCK

GigiB87
  3/8/2017 21:30 EST

Why are you reading it? No one is forcing you, are they? I think the folks that really need deporting are the ones that don't get the free speech thing, one of the founding principles of the US. Right now Washington politics is a big deal to all Mexicans, and presumably expats in Mexico as well. Don't you get that?

MexJuan1
  3/8/2017 22:07 EST

Well, life can be harsh at times and I apologize for my contribution to your anger. But, news today not widely reported but, credible, out of Mexico that due to The Wall and Trump's ongoing Mass Deportation of illegal immigrants. His devaluation of the peso and his public disrespect for Mexico is that an Anti-U.S. Candidate is waiting in the wings to, more than likely, become the next President of Mexico. And, with the current popularity rating of 17% of De Niento, it won't take much to make that happen. As I've stated from the beginning of this fiasco that I would rather NOT be addressing either, I was concerned as to how this dysfunctional, incompetent "person" with his Alt Right Wing, anti-immigrant aids, Bannon and Miller would effect U.S./Mexico relations and those of us who have expatriated here. If they go so confrontational as to have happen what I've just described, how unwelcome do you think we might become here? How unsafe? Bad decisions have even worse consequences so my focus was ONLY to attempt to make U.S. Expats aware of what may be in store for us. Not to upset anyone. Again, my apologies for your consternation but, these events are more than noteworthy for us to know. I hope you have success in finding a forum that pleases you.

giershift43
  3/8/2017 22:15 EST

You are correct. Pull together with aarp. Conservatism is apparently tied to lack of respect fort heir elders

giershift43
  3/8/2017 22:15 EST

You are correct. Pull together with aarp. Conservatism is apparently tied to lack of respect for their elders.

giershift43
  3/8/2017 22:15 EST

You are correct. Pull together with aarp. Conservatism is apparently tied to lack of respect for their elders.

giershift43
  3/8/2017 22:17 EST

Who are you addressing

MexJuan1
  3/8/2017 22:25 EST

AARP is, or was, a fairly powerful Lobby but, if you recall, The King has banned lobbyists for five (5) years. As well as, recently, gutting, with no plans to replace, The State Department of career professionals who have been there, some, since Jimmy Carter. And, Rex Tillerson will be given NO DEPUTY SEC'Y and has, effectively, as evidenced by his recent behavior, been silenced. Minimizing, at best, United States "Soft Power". In other words, no diplomacy. Eliminating your opposition is the HALLMARK of criminals and want to be Dictators.

MexJuan1
  3/8/2017 22:35 EST

Conservatism, in the right hands of ppl with a brain is fine. Those ppl make sense at times. They just don't care about anyone but themselves and feel as though the Govt. shouldn't shoulder helping poor and old ppl. They have no need for us. We're just a nuisance "expense". Even though we contributed our entire lives. Zealots, or Alt Right Wingers (much worse than even Ultra Conservatives) are dangerous ppl as are any Zealots. Terrorists in suits with brief cases...

giershift43
  3/9/2017 01:58 EST

So what can be done?

giershift43
  3/9/2017 02:11 EST

I basically agree with Mexjuan,

tucevich
  3/9/2017 02:22 EST

MexJuan-- really you are simply embarrassing yourself. Your posts are simply stupid. All you do is rant and have no idea whatsoever what you're talking about. You are even incapable of composing coherent sentences....give it a rest!

MexJuan1
  3/9/2017 05:00 EST

By us? Non validation. Hundreds of thousands to millions are and have been pouring into the streets (around the World) to protest him and his inane tweets, malignant policies, invalidate his presidency. Ppl in power who have ethics/morals in other countries don't even (wont) allow him to visit or speak in or to their Governing Bodies. Faith in America as a "Model of Democracy" is eroding around the civilized World. The RT (Russian Press) is denouncing and decrying him! While his base won't leave his side (yet), although his support rallies are weak at best, publicly. In the hundreds to thousands. Size DOES matter in some instances. And we ALL know it, very much, does to him. he's a "pissing contest" kinda guy; -), until they realize, personally, what he's doing to them. That won't happen til it touches their paychecks and wallets. And it will. One Cab. Mem. down, the 2nd on his way out and currently sidelined. Top Rep. Senators are cajoling him with the malicious and illegal allegations he's made with an investigation so, he'll be deemed to have done something illegal either way. His credibility is all but gone, power is waning, has always been and will remain unable to govern or exert any self control (even though he is powerful, he's in way over his head in his current perview) viewed by the majority as unstable, incompetent and on his way to ineffectiveness. Wait for the case against him to be complete (you can't go after a president even if he is NUTS, even Congress or The Judicial Branch w/o full and complete proof. (Like with The Travel (Muslim) Ban. 2.0 is, already, being contested by Hawaii and more States with plenty to lose will follow) but, it's "out there" and being, systematically collected and it will be gathered in totality. 6 of his surrogates and/or current staff (plus him, of course) have flat out lied about meeting with Russian officials. Why? They had the ability,position and right to do so. Why lie about it? he'll continue to cut his own throat with his twitter acct., pathological lies and wild accusations with no basis of proof or merit. If his financials are, in any way, revealed, he'll be done. Even he knows that in that tiny 3rd Grade mind of his. Thus, the complete refusal to produce them and protection thereof. Fear mongering and bullying is continuing to be purported against the "jobs" of underlings and running up to mid term elections against politicians while they anguish over pressure to vote "yea" on any constituent angering policy and legislation. They're scared to death of him which is, exactly, what he wants but, little by little, they're distancing themselves while the ones with some power do what they can. If he loses on the AHCA (RyanCare), his power to legislate will be severely diminished. Or, someone with some balls might, sooner or later, deal with the "bully on the playground" in the only way that it can go down. Everyone knows that scenario. And WAIT. All "we" can do, realistically, is wait. And just hope that he doesn't do any real, lasting damage in the interim. Me, as you should be if you're older, I'm just happy to be out of the work force and effectively Grandfathered into everything he wants to eliminate. Happy to be where I am, that is, unless De Niento is replaced by the anti U.S. guy. Can't remember his name offhand? I'm, already, looking at other countries just in case. That's something that ALL ex pats in Mexico CAN and SHOULD be doing, for sure! There's a great big old World out there with lots if beautiful places. I'd avoid any islands or countries with American Military Bases though... Going to get some breakfast, have some coffee and watch the Sun come up. Take a nice walk too. Have a great day! I'm going to wait for "tucevich" to call me some more names, he's really good at it, and disappear again for a while, relax and just wait. I feel badly about that one person, can't remember who it was, Gigi I think, being upset. Ciao toute'!

Launia
  3/9/2017 09:04 EST

When governments are exonomically at wars, it is the usual that foreigners will suffer of it.
It has been like that around the world.
So i hope, this time will get smoother that what I hace experienced elsewhere. I do not speak about my security, I just speak about visas...

Launia
  3/9/2017 09:05 EST

When governments are economically at wars, it is the usual that foreigners will suffer of it.
It has been like that around the world.
So i hope, this time will get smoother that what I hace experienced elsewhere. I do not speak about my security, I just speak about visas...

Launia
  3/9/2017 09:08 EST

There are a lot of rich and very rich, and middle class Mexicans... where I live, there is practically no expat community and I look at the cars in the city, 90 % of the car pool are rather new.

Launia
  3/9/2017 09:11 EST

Exactly right..... each point you wrote

giershift43
  3/9/2017 09:39 EST

Where do you live?

tucevich
  3/9/2017 11:45 EST

MexJuan-- please take your meds and keep your tin foil hat atop your head. Your inane political rants are beyond moronic! ??

Pedroal
  3/9/2017 13:08 EST

I think part of the problem we are facing is of our own making. What was that old quote from the Pogo cartoon strip? 'We have met the enemy and it is us.' Or something like that. I despise D.T., but I think the demonization of a large part of the American electorate helped a lot. Everyone who voted for Trump wasn't a racist, or 'Alt Right', or all for a 100% Caucasian country. It was an admittedly ill-informed protest vote by people who didn't feel properly represented by the Dems. (And of course a last minute hard core bashing of H.C. that may have swayed the results.) I would compare it (you may disagree) to a vote by African Americans in a black dominated inner city for a radical Muslim (the American version). It is a way of saying, 'Wake up and listen to us!' If the liberals (and I generally consider myself one) want to continue swirling around the toilet bowl all they need to do is continue with insistence on political purity and exclusivity that we have very recently accused the conservatives of. All southerners aren't racists. All senior whites don't have hard core right wing ideas. a
And everyone concerned about immigration are not aspiring for an all white , Christian country. And accusing them of thinking this way is part (clearly not all) of the reason the Dems lost so horribly. We need to wake up and look in the mirror.







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MexJuan1
  3/9/2017 13:41 EST

Well said "Pedroal". Your opinions and observations make a lot of sense. Unlike others who emulate their "Boss" by name calling and degradation because they have no valid and/or truthful observations or thoughts. I agree wholeheartedly but, it's, in total, politically, intellectually, morally and ethically, not to mention being viewed as maintaining a mode of common sense, still not a very good excuse to reach into the "swirling toilet" and choose the nastiest, stinkiest piece of poop! Now is it? My apologies for the unappealing metaphor. That, unfortunately, does, will and has made all Americans be sensed with a collective stench.

GigiB87
  3/9/2017 15:11 EST

With respect to the Pedroal commentary, I would suggest reading Matt Taibi's piece in 12/1/16 Rolling Stone, 'Trump's Payback'. If I were to express my feelings about D.T. fully in this forum I would be almost fearful of being visited by the Secret Service. However, it doesn't help to hate without understanding. This I'd important, very important, At least in my opinion.

MexJuan1
  3/9/2017 16:25 EST

He is NOT A DICTATOR! Wanna be, for sure but anyone who can extend 2nd Amendment Rights to the severely, mentally I'll can't shut down your 1St Amendment Rights to Free Speech. If he can accuse a well respected, highly intellectual and widely regarded gentleman of a Felony with no proof other than a raving Conspiracy Theorist on the Radio and a "rag" like Breitbart News, you and I and everyone else can say how we feel about him and what's going on. Let them come. I'll tell them exactly what I've been saying here and elsewhere. I'm assuming that you're a woman from your handle, Gigi? If not, my apologies but, if so and I love the girls as much if not more than the next guy, his misogyny alone should spurn you to NEVER normalize this Pig of a, so called, man. Not telling you what to do by any means but don't be bullied by the situation. That allows him to continue and accomplish his goals. It just boggles MY mind that someone with so many skeletons in the closet who possesses no morals, ethics, adult controls, etc., etc., etc. would even run for ANY office?! It gives you a small idea if his huge ego and narcissism. So, speak out to whatever extent your comfort zone allows. I realize that he's the poorest of examples but, exposure and criticism are what bullies fear and hate more than anything.

tucevich
  3/9/2017 16:54 EST

MexJuan-- doubling down on stupid!

giershift43
  3/9/2017 17:18 EST

I agree with you, but what do we do as EPA and clean air are no longer valued and he wants to cut the coast guard to invest in border patrols.

GigiB87
  3/9/2017 18:46 EST

So Juan, I guess you win the prize of being #1 in righteous indignation and the inability to listen and, actually, hear what I, and others, are saying. Problem is, you are part of the problem. He is a all the things you say he is, I agree. Now what, more self righteous proclamations that have the same ability to convince those who disagree with you as the evangelist screaming at you that you'll burn in hell if you don't accept everything he tells you. I agree with you, but that isn't enough is it? What exactly is enough? Sorry, but that's the truth. Now,.I like guys as much as the next person, but...

GigiB87
  3/9/2017 18:48 EST

Now I'm taking a break from all this idiocy. Sorry if I offended anybody.

giershift43
  3/9/2017 20:36 EST

We need more critical thinking and civil discourse. It seems lost.

giershift43
  3/9/2017 20:45 EST

Lol you excel at hurling insults

MexJuan1
  3/9/2017 21:19 EST

See, now that's an answer, a thoughtful, intelligent composition. An observation to which I can, and is worthy of, a response.
"Self" righteous indignation would be more accurate though and if I was in a "dick swinging" contest, I'd answer "tucevich" ;-)
Enough is him gone, out, walking away not in shame as there isn't the capability but, blaming everyone else like, only, an egotistical, heathenistic, criminal can do. Enough would be Congress giving him the option of the jail time he deserves vs walking away from the job to which he has brought only incompetence, hatred and shame. And the rest of the unqualified, un-Americans who are attempting to destroy this country, other countries, The World and the common, defenseless people of this and every other ilk.
I have a concern and a deep seeded aversion to bad, unethical, immoral ppl who prey on the weak.
Enough won't be enough in this case. I began to answer the proposed question by attempting to warn those of us here if the impending danger that is in the process of coming true. Trying to be helpful because I care. Unfortunately, not a desired trait these days. Makes you a mark for ridicule. I am no one. A nobody but, I can say what I choose, continue to speak the truth and I will not be silent.

giershift43
  3/9/2017 21:40 EST

Mexjuan fight on!!

MexJuan1
  3/9/2017 22:08 EST

And as for me being "part of the problem"? Not even in the most miniscule manner. You (Gigi) don't know me, at all. I'm a very happy man enjoying a happy, well deserved retirement after 42 years of hard work.
The "problem" is watching the country of my (and your) birth being usurped by foreign thuggery, homeland, anti-Americans and a common thug wanna be Capitalistic Dictator. That is the only and totality of this problem. As simple as good guys and the truth against bad guys and lies. The truth will come out and win out..

GigiB87
  3/9/2017 22:31 EST

I think this site should require a breathalyzer for admission. I rarely drink, but may start. By the way, I'm not religious, but isn't it a characteristic of Satan that he turns relatively reasonable people against one another? Or was that just a Steven King movie I saw a couple of decades ago? Peace.

MexJuan1
  3/9/2017 22:46 EST

I don't drink at all. Do use some recreational drugs at times for fun, relaxation. 65, 6', 175# with zero medical issues at all. And I am an Atheist. The Planet's going to hell anyway... ;-) Religion has no place in politics anyway! I guess I just have a conscious and common sense to treat ppl the way in which I am treated.

giershift43
  3/9/2017 23:04 EST

Mexjuan I have worked as long as you and agree with your position.

giershift43
  3/9/2017 23:06 EST

Gigi insulting people is not are argument. It is only argumentative.

tucevich
  3/9/2017 23:50 EST

MexJuan take your meds...

Launia
  3/11/2017 21:23 EST

It is not fun to read those insults.
Is this group a political group or a Mexican expat group?

GigiB87
  3/13/2017 00:55 EST

It does seem as tho DT has bigger issues to be concerned with than 'The Wall', if all the connections between his people and the Putin minions during the presidential campaign can be clearly demonstrated. R.Maddow is doing a pretty good job at this so far, whatever you may think of her (I dig her. Does that make me a bad person?) Hopefully he'll go before too much more damage to our government infrastructure is done, but that's just my opinion.

giershift43
  3/13/2017 10:24 EST

It would seem truth and facts need to be what is valued over partisan politics.

giershift43
  3/13/2017 10:28 EST

Alternate Reality is what is called a delusion.

giershift43
  3/13/2017 10:35 EST

As far as I know, no one can actually tell the future and know what will happen. I hope that facts and truth will become valued again, because without it Democracy can not succeed. Basing decisions on alternate reality or a delusion will not be sustainable, but will cause damage for all.

GigiB87
  3/13/2017 11:44 EST

On a completely unrelated note, to those of you travelling in the US- if you stop off I-40 or I-25 in Albuquerque please be careful and secure everything. A couple just had their brand new pickup and trailer stolen, outside a very reputable motel. The trailer contained everything virtually they owned. And this sort of thing is not that uncommon anymore. Rumors belongings headed to DT estate completely unfounded. (Last sentence a joke. The rest sadly true.)

Cozumeldeb
  3/13/2017 11:51 EST

I agree Trump's days are numbered..And the # of dead Russians popping up almost weekly, is a telling factor..Putin is no afraid to pull the trigger.

giershift43
  3/13/2017 11:58 EST

You provide good information, but you suggest that Trump is unwarrantedly being picked on. No one had blamed Trump for attacks off the road. This hits me as similar to his strategy as creating a false premise and using it to distract people from the issues.

GigiB87
  3/13/2017 12:21 EST

No, it just suggests you are lacking a sense of humor. Ever watch Steven Colbert? You have got to be kidding me! No, don't bother answering my question, it was rhetorical.

giershift43
  3/13/2017 12:25 EST

I love Colbert, but could not see that you were making a joke.

GigiB87
  3/13/2017 12:45 EST

So. G43, respectfully, what are your thoughts about DT and what he has done so far as president, in general but also as it relates to Mexican/US relations? think I've made my opinions pretty clear. This is meant as a serious question, and I will quietly respect whatever you have to say ad long as relates to your honest thoughts about my question.

GigiB87
  3/13/2017 12:50 EST

And I did mention in parentheses it was a joke. Sorry, humor hard to convey sometimes on internet. Have to joke about horrible things sometimes, I.M.O.

giershift43
  3/13/2017 14:05 EST

I see DT as a man about himself and not the welfare of the nation. His rhetoric reminds me of the rise of fascist regimes, scapegoating and diverting our attention from issues and real solutions. Basically I see him as a narcissist who only values others for how they enrich him or how he looks. He cannot bring back the days of manufacturing jobs, because manufacturing does not need the kind of labor it once did. Manufacturing uses robots computers and now we are moving into 3D printing. He is an impediment to progress. Does that answer your question?

MexJuan1
  3/13/2017 15:30 EST

Tip of the iceberg, yes but, that's a pretty good start and why, unless he's, somehow, put out (not any easy task to get any president out, especially this one with his ties to dirty money. Like the favor he just did for Rupert Murdoch firing Preet Bharaba, who was told he would stay, as he was investigating Fox for "secret payments" to make Roger Ailes sexual harassment law suits go away) I have no hope. You said you had hope? "Hope is not a strategy". Moving away from where the existent, inevitable trouble is a plan...

GigiB87
  3/13/2017 21:13 EST

Just watching comedian on TV speculating on Jesus visiting the US at this time (a brown skin Mid-Eastern refugee).

GigiB87
  3/13/2017 21:15 EST

And awesome response, GS, by the way. IMO.

GigiB87
  3/13/2017 21:33 EST

So, hope definitely ain't a strategy. What is, in this case? We've all worked, by the way, I imagine. Sometime I have wished I didn't have to. Seriously,what is a strategy? I have nightmares when I read about decimation of the EPA. Reliance upon state government? I don't know. My state already blue, more or less. What is the strategy?

GigiB87
  3/13/2017 21:43 EST

And, Juan, the simplifying of the situation to good vs. bad isn't a strategy, either. Same philosophy as radical Islamists. Sorry, give me a g.d. strategy. Seriously!

giershift43
  3/13/2017 22:02 EST

I think the idea is to resist or so is the motto. There are people working including the ACLU. It's not over until it is. An opposition is building is the hope. I have always been a worrier. When I contemplated having a child, and talked about all the trouble in the world to my mother. She reminded me that life has never been certain she grew up during the depression and lived through WWII. No one knew how it would turn out. We don't know how this will either, but we continue on and hope for the best. I was married to man who died of. Rain cancer. I raised a child with developmental disabilities. Each event made it seem like life was over, but here I am. I'm trying to make yet one last chapter. Yeah I worked more than 40 years as a social worker. I'm heart broken at the direction this country has taken. No one would have ever thought our nation would take such a dark turn. Let's hope it will change direction again.

giershift43
  3/13/2017 22:10 EST

Typo: brain tumor not rain

giershift43
  3/13/2017 22:13 EST

We do not know what will happen! Nor have we ever had a certain future. We deal each day with what we have and keep going. If someone knew what would happen that would be a great power.

MexJuan1
  3/13/2017 22:43 EST

There is none other than wait and see. Immovable object!!! You're last post, though, was amazing. That was some thought! Very insightful...

GigiB87
  3/14/2017 11:27 EST

Oiga! Es claro que no estoy segura, pero curiosa. Did Kelly Ann Conway really say Obama spied on A.O. with "cameras that turn into microwaves". Wouldn't be completely out of character.

GigiB87
  3/14/2017 11:32 EST

Oh. Let me clarify. Wouldnt be out of character for Conway, not Obama.

MexJuan1
  3/14/2017 11:36 EST

No, microwaves that turn into cameras. More of her and the administrations "Alternative Facts". Like why they need more time to investigate the trumphole's ludicrous, baseless charge that could have been proven as such in 5-10 minutes. Like Health Care for everyone and he won't touch Medicaid or Medicare and on and on and on... He's shoving it right down the throats of the ppl who elected him now. What else did they expect? Criminal business men don't keep promises, ever!

giershift43
  3/14/2017 11:37 EST

NAFTA Agreement
Under the NAFTA agreement, Mexico may not directly or indirectly expropriate property except for a public purpose. If it became necessary to expropriate, swift and fair market compensation must be paid, with any accrued interest.

I hope this will not change with an end to NAFTA.

kgarbo43
  3/14/2017 11:45 EST

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME HOW I CAN GET OUT OF THIS FORUM THERE IS NO A WAY OF CANCELLING THIS FORUM IT IS ANNOYING FLOODING MY E MAIL MEXJUAN USUALLY KNOWS EVERYTHING HELP I AM SOO TIRED OF ALL THESE POSTS NO I DON'T EVEN READ THEM

giershift43
  3/14/2017 11:46 EST

She said microwaves could be used for spying when asked about the wire tap.
It been on TV and video on the internet.
That was her way to not answer and redirect, Just gets more absurd all the time. Time for OA to provide evidence and they give us Kellyanne instead.

MexJuan1
  3/14/2017 11:46 EST

I am of the belief that everything that you can imagine BAD happening to, will. Breaking the Teacher's Unions, Veterans will get left further behind, Seniors forgotten, poorer and poorer relations with Mexico and The Middle East, China, Japan, LGBTQ, ALL MINORITIES, immigrants etc, etc, etc. This administration is just beginning to show it's true peacock feathers!

MexJuan1
  3/14/2017 11:48 EST

A cry in the dark from Garbo! LOL

kgarbo43
  3/14/2017 11:49 EST

YOU PEOPLE JUST MAKE ME SICK THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL FORUM I AM TRYING TO CANCEL MY MEMBERSHIP BUT WITH NO LUCK MAY SINCE YOU KNOW SO MUCH YOU CAN HELP

tucevich24
  3/14/2017 11:51 EST

Amen KGarbox43
Day after day my inbox is filled with the continued idiotic political rants of the truly ignorant and divorced from reality. Ugh!

GigiB87
  3/14/2017 11:52 EST

I agree with GS' last post about resistance, by the way. But right now I think we can influence enough people by just convincing them that the emperor is naked. It is obvious to most of the electorate already, isn't it? He was only put into place only because of our electoral system. I think (hope) we can add enough people to create a tipping point. But too much anger/hatred may, IMO, push people the other way, much the way excessive violence/rioting may have contributed to AO's election. I saw a similar thing in California in 60s/70s, where too much violence (I was in Berkeley) may have contributed to Reagan's election as governor,.and started his political career. IMO!

GigiB87
  3/14/2017 11:58 EST

Oh, and 'microwaves that turn into cameras' makes her sound almost normal (not quite). Thanks, Juan.

nelsonokelmgmailcom
  3/14/2017 12:02 EST

She must have caught "Delusional disease" from T Rump!!!

GigiB87
  3/14/2017 12:10 EST

And, t.v., exactly and specifically how are we ignorant and divorced from reality? Not that I care personally what you think, but I am curious about your reasoning, and if you even read what you are critiquing.

giershift43
  3/14/2017 13:06 EST

I thought I was answering a question. The interview was broadcast on several channels. Not exclusive to anyone.

giershift43
  3/14/2017 13:11 EST

She didn't say microwave turned into cameras. She just said microwaves could be used to do surveillance when ask about if she knew anything of the wire tap that was tweeted by Trump. She took an understandable amount of flax and tried to change it later. The deadline for providing evidence of a wire tap was upon them. They provided no evidence and then asked for more time. Then they try to say that Trump did really mean wire tap. I saw the tweets. Yeah that is what he said and trashed Obama that he did this.

giershift43
  3/14/2017 13:17 EST

Here is a copy of the tweet that now Spicer says he didn't mean and K.C. tried to change the subject:Donald J. Trump ? @realDonaldTrump
How low has President Obama gone to tapp my phones during the very sacred election process. This is Nixon/Watergate. Bad (or sick) guy!
7:02 AM - 4 Mar 2017

giershift43
  3/14/2017 13:25 EST

Anyone hear from RV Gringo lately. I read an old post that said that he lives in Chapala. I would like to know more about life in the various communities in that area.

giershift43
  3/14/2017 13:26 EST

After the analysis of the health care plan, MexJuan gets points for his view.

WoodwindWayne
  3/14/2017 13:40 EST

While on the Mexico Forum, click on "My Profile"...then click (below) on "Preferences" Scroll to the bottom and click or unclick the appropriate box concerning e-mails. Then smile :)

WoodwindWayne
  3/14/2017 13:57 EST

Kgarbo, hope that solves your problem...

kgarbo43
  3/14/2017 14:50 EST

Thank you I am so relieved I used to enjoy getting information and friendly topics

worxs
  3/14/2017 16:36 EST

Thank god there are more conservatives then the liberals(that have no lifes except for posting crap).

nelsonokelmgmailcom
  3/14/2017 17:00 EST

You are deplorable!!!

MexJuan1
  3/14/2017 17:37 EST

I just heard on the radio, a right wing station (I always wondered why there are so many right wing radio stations with radical hosts and so few, if any, liberal ones) anyway, they said that applications for citizenship to New Zealand from Americans was up 70%. I wonder why? ;-)

GigiB87
  3/14/2017 17:57 EST

I have heard there are so many right wing programs because ownership of radio stations has been severely consolidated into a few corporate bodies. And I suppose because generally listener volume, even for people like Limbaugh and Hannity (well. except Hannity) isn't great enough to support a television show. So we have an oligopolistic model, in economic terms, or so my friends tell me, which is really anti capitalistic, because it discourages additional competition. All I know about NZ is that it is beautiful and I have met a lot of New Zealanders while travelling who hate (well, dislike anyway) Americans, probably more so now.

giershift43
  3/14/2017 17:58 EST

I wonder why they aren't higher. If I were young enough to start a new way to life, I would join them.

giershift43
  3/14/2017 17:58 EST

I meant type start a new work
Life.

giershift43
  3/14/2017 18:00 EST

I hear the same thing. We are now an Oligarchy.

MexJuan1
  3/14/2017 18:03 EST

Very informative and now I know something I've wondered about for a long time. And I'm a Fly Fisherman so I know about New Zealand. Having tossed hand tied flies all over rivers, lakes and oceans of the Western United States, Canada and Mexico, NZ is a Mecca for Fly Fishing!

GigiB87
  3/14/2017 18:33 EST

So, tucevich24, you never answered my question. How, exactly, are we ignorant and divorced from reality, specifically?

MexJuan1
  3/14/2017 19:19 EST

That guy can't and won't answer any questions! He just throws barbs and calls ppl names like his hero.
If you want a strong dose of reality, SEARCH: THE NEW YORK POST, OP-ED, TICKET To HELL. 3/9/17. That article, about, says it all.

RobertG
  3/14/2017 19:46 EST

I have been in country for approx. four years. I am slightly more in tune to the mood of the local government and citizens toward ex-pats than most as I recently married an attorney. We live in the Lake Chapala area in Jalisco. On a day to day basis, you would hardly be aware that there had been a changing of the guard in the US. If you did not watch the news and avoided the rallies that the loonies have organized to make their voice heard, you would be totally oblivious to the changes. There have been numerous rallies and protests that have been entertaining but accomplished absolutely nothing. The day to day lives of practically every Ex-Pat in this area certainly has not changed. The major decision making for most of the Ex-Pats, and especially the snowbirds, revolves around where they want to eat their next meal The price of gas has increased considerably. The economy is O.K. as long as the snow birds come and spend their pesos in the local restaurants. The gringos are still buying and selling homes. But there is no panic in the streets. There is no feeling of resentment from the locals. It continues to be business as usual. The obvious disparities between the gringos that have and the typical Mexicans that have not will never change. But there simply has not been an explosion of negative sentiment since the election. You could visit this area and find as many other gringos, that life is very good here. The gringos and locals co-exist very well. So, it depends on your outlook, your attitude, your personal objectives, and your ability to adjust to a new culture. Every city, town, village, and state has its own individual issues and problems. Do your homework and research. Some areas are certainly better than others. Safety is an issue in some areas. As I mentioned, do your research. The permanent gringos in this area are extremely helpful and welcoming. NO PANIC HERE.

RobertG
  3/14/2017 19:46 EST

I have been in country for approx. four years. I am slightly more in tune to the mood of the local government and citizens toward ex-pats than most as I recently married an attorney. We live in the Lake Chapala area in Jalisco. On a day to day basis, you would hardly be aware that there had been a changing of the guard in the US. If you did not watch the news and avoided the rallies that the loonies have organized to make their voice heard, you would be totally oblivious to the changes. There have been numerous rallies and protests that have been entertaining but accomplished absolutely nothing. The day to day lives of practically every Ex-Pat in this area certainly has not changed. The major decision making for most of the Ex-Pats, and especially the snowbirds, revolves around where they want to eat their next meal The price of gas has increased considerably. The economy is O.K. as long as the snow birds come and spend their pesos in the local restaurants. The gringos are still buying and selling homes. But there is no panic in the streets. There is no feeling of resentment from the locals. It continues to be business as usual. The obvious disparities between the gringos that have and the typical Mexicans that have not will never change. But there simply has not been an explosion of negative sentiment since the election. You could visit this area and find as many other gringos, that life is very good here. The gringos and locals co-exist very well. So, it depends on your outlook, your attitude, your personal objectives, and your ability to adjust to a new culture. Every city, town, village, and state has its own individual issues and problems. Do your homework and research. Some areas are certainly better than others. Safety is an issue in some areas. As I mentioned, do your research. The permanent gringos in this area are extremely helpful and welcoming. NO PANIC HERE.

RobertG
  3/14/2017 19:46 EST

I have been in country for approx. four years. I am slightly more in tune to the mood of the local government and citizens toward ex-pats than most as I recently married an attorney. We live in the Lake Chapala area in Jalisco. On a day to day basis, you would hardly be aware that there had been a changing of the guard in the US. If you did not watch the news and avoided the rallies that the loonies have organized to make their voice heard, you would be totally oblivious to the changes. There have been numerous rallies and protests that have been entertaining but accomplished absolutely nothing. The day to day lives of practically every Ex-Pat in this area certainly has not changed. The major decision making for most of the Ex-Pats, and especially the snowbirds, revolves around where they want to eat their next meal The price of gas has increased considerably. The economy is O.K. as long as the snow birds come and spend their pesos in the local restaurants. The gringos are still buying and selling homes. But there is no panic in the streets. There is no feeling of resentment from the locals. It continues to be business as usual. The obvious disparities between the gringos that have and the typical Mexicans that have not will never change. But there simply has not been an explosion of negative sentiment since the election. You could visit this area and find as many other gringos, that life is very good here. The gringos and locals co-exist very well. So, it depends on your outlook, your attitude, your personal objectives, and your ability to adjust to a new culture. Every city, town, village, and state has its own individual issues and problems. Do your homework and research. Some areas are certainly better than others. Safety is an issue in some areas. As I mentioned, do your research. The permanent gringos in this area are extremely helpful and welcoming. NO PANIC HERE.

RobertG
  3/14/2017 19:46 EST

I have been in country for approx. four years. I am slightly more in tune to the mood of the local government and citizens toward ex-pats than most as I recently married an attorney. We live in the Lake Chapala area in Jalisco. On a day to day basis, you would hardly be aware that there had been a changing of the guard in the US. If you did not watch the news and avoided the rallies that the loonies have organized to make their voice heard, you would be totally oblivious to the changes. There have been numerous rallies and protests that have been entertaining but accomplished absolutely nothing. The day to day lives of practically every Ex-Pat in this area certainly has not changed. The major decision making for most of the Ex-Pats, and especially the snowbirds, revolves around where they want to eat their next meal The price of gas has increased considerably. The economy is O.K. as long as the snow birds come and spend their pesos in the local restaurants. The gringos are still buying and selling homes. But there is no panic in the streets. There is no feeling of resentment from the locals. It continues to be business as usual. The obvious disparities between the gringos that have and the typical Mexicans that have not will never change. But there simply has not been an explosion of negative sentiment since the election. You could visit this area and find as many other gringos, that life is very good here. The gringos and locals co-exist very well. So, it depends on your outlook, your attitude, your personal objectives, and your ability to adjust to a new culture. Every city, town, village, and state has its own individual issues and problems. Do your homework and research. Some areas are certainly better than others. Safety is an issue in some areas. As I mentioned, do your research. The permanent gringos in this area are extremely helpful and welcoming. NO PANIC HERE.

GigiB87
  3/14/2017 19:53 EST

Hopefully it will remain that way, after more than 2 months. I used to think that way about 1970s, 80s and 90s Mexico, pre cartels. Sad you would say the disparity between rich and poor will never change.

giershift43
  3/14/2017 20:00 EST

Thank you. I hope to move to lake chapala area next year. I look at real estate there daily and dream. Are there any places you would suggest avoiding or neighborhoods that you would recommend? Condo versus house ? Issues with water in some areas? Tips like that would be helpful.

GigiB87
  3/14/2017 20:56 EST

Still waiting, tucevich.

GigiB87
  3/15/2017 17:54 EST

Okay tucevich, guess that means we've heard the last of you? Didn't you say in one post you were a 'Democratic Strategist'? Guess we'll never know. I guess when you tell a whopper you might as well go big (like climate change is fake science). Boy, don't we wish it was fake. Now maybe we'll have to hope the Chinese take the lead on the fight to save the planet. Anyone hear about the ongoing efforts to bring back the Wooly Mammoth to help keep carbon gas from escaping from the Siberian tundra. True story.

MexJuan1
  3/15/2017 18:05 EST

How about we just save the elephants we have, they're endangered you know and believe/accept what 95% of the World's Scientists, Meteorologists, Naturalists (they're very smart ppl you know) are proving to and telling us and do the right things? Not an option at this point and time, I know. It's the Age of Nonsense...

GigiB87
  3/15/2017 18:14 EST

Just finished watching a local NM news story talking about how much worse immigrants in Albuquerque have been treated the last few months. In this case an African lady and program director was saying immigrants don't feel safe on the bus and are attacked verbally and sometimes physically. Hell, I don't feel safe on the bus here but I imagine it is much worse for them. Of course this could neeeeeeever happen anywhere else........

MexJuan1
  3/15/2017 18:23 EST

Course not! Like the person who's been "in country" for four years said. "NO TIME TO PANIC" in Mexico, right? I, kind of, agree but, it is time to plan because as long as the "disease" exists in Washington D.C. and Mar A Lago, Fla. it will have widespread consequences... Just observing the obvious. ;-)

GigiB87
  3/15/2017 19:01 EST

Check it out Juan. Not as bizaare as you make it seem. Actually have genetic material and a purpose for bringing them back. Dangerous times, drastic measures. Research it and then tell me what you think, or put tucevich back on..

GigiB87
  3/15/2017 19:04 EST

Oh, and by the way, humans were responsible for Wooly Mammoth's extinction. Sorry about tuvevich comment, low blow.

GigiB87
  3/15/2017 19:04 EST

Oh, and by the way, humans were responsible for Wooly Mammoth's extinction. Sorry about tuvevich comment, low blow.

MexJuan1
  3/15/2017 19:32 EST

He's either tired of listening to us "raving and ranting Morons " or is beginning to see what might be coming for the KofA. I doubt the latter. Yes, I've checked it out. Interesting and I get it. It's indicative of our "throw away and just replace it" modern thinking though. My idea of saving what we have is, probably, arcane at best nowadays. Maybe we can do both? Nah... I guess the warm weather elephants will have to be content being poached and ending up in the market as ashtrays, door stops or on some rich guy's wall. And we'll have to hope (there it is again) that the bio-genetically engineered Wooly Mammoths do what they say they will???

Cozumeldeb
  3/15/2017 19:35 EST

I am in Lake Chaplla/Ajijic right now, RV Gringo lived here for many yrs, but has moved due to health reasons..I can tell you this area is beautiful, near perfect weather all year round. said to be the largest ex-pat area in MX, Canadians and Americans mostly. Great medical care, assisted living care and 40 minutes from Guadalajara and some of the best hospitals worldwide. They even have their own VFW Hall and Shriners group..Many varied activities, golf courses, great restaurants, shops etc..We live in Cozumel, and love to visit the area..

giershift43
  3/15/2017 20:35 EST

My hope is to move to Lake Chapala area. I am trying to research areas around AJIJIc and compare renting versus buying. Thank you for the information.

GigiB87
  3/15/2017 21:09 EST

I doubt if the 2 are mutually exclusive. Problem with/for elephants (and us) too many g.d. people, IMO.

GigiB87
  3/15/2017 21:16 EST

I would like to get the hell out of the US, but am more interested in SA. Have spent a lot of time in Mexico and C.A. Don't want to live in expat enclave. Costa Rica is pretty safe but for me gets old fast. Love Argentina, been there before but a little scared to commit as hard to change mind once committed. May just stay in NM and move into the mountains. A lot of rural southwest areas are pretty cool. But can sure relate to getting the hell out of Dodge.

GigiB87
  3/15/2017 21:19 EST

And peace and goodnight to you all, especially tucevich and Mark Levin ( one probably listening to the other).

giershift43
  3/15/2017 21:40 EST

There will be consequences, but we don't know how it will play out. Too many variables at this point to see a clear result.

MexJuan1
  3/15/2017 21:41 EST

I've always wanted to live in Uruguay but it gets cold there! The Algarve Province, Southern Most tip of Portugal, Faro, Cabanas is pretty sweet too. And very affordable near the water. Some of the best beaches in the World. Europe scares me a little though. They're not in the best shape economically. Vosta, Italy is a nice, inexpensive choice as well. At one time it was in the Top 10 of least expensive cities in which to live in the World.

MexJuan1
  3/15/2017 21:43 EST

It's not the variables that concern me. It's the one constant.

giershift43
  3/15/2017 22:28 EST

Peace and good night to you as well

Pedroal46
  3/16/2017 12:16 EST

Here's my take on what will happen. Very little, if you are a relatively well of tourist or resident in Mexico, unless there is a new populist president elected. At least from the authorities. If the people suffer, or perceive themselves as suffering, that will clearly have an impact. And the Mexican authorities have never highly revered poor American travelers, at least from my experience. Best one can do is try to avoid doing anything to attract their attention, in that case. Medical marijuana or just plain old marijuana? Not particularly permissive, unless toking up with the son of the police chief, or someone like that. I saw plenty of it in Costa Rica, but police there are more permissive and you need you know how to do it without rubbing their nose in the fact Now, maybe things have changed in Mexico, and I am certainly willing to be corrected. Odd to me that American expats are willing to consider themselves 'guests' and not involve themselves in political activities while Mexicans in the US are quite the opposite. Could it be the income disparity???
On another note, did anyone see the Trump 2005 tax returns? And imagine what the response would have been to Obama claiming Bush Jr. had bugged the his campaign headquarters, or Michelle's work. Or Clinton claiming his relation with M.L. was 'very European'. We would still be hearing about it. Watch for the Republican hit machine to start focusing on next Dem presidential aspirant as soon as liberal opposition starts to solidify (hopefully E.W.)!

MexJuan1
  3/16/2017 12:57 EST

That's a, fairly, mild "take" on things I would surmise. If things do go badly, even worse than having the "Mad King" in the WH and Obrador is elected, how would you plan on distracting from being an American? If, in fact, you are? That, alone, could become the same for us here as it is for being Mexican, Muslim or any other immigrant in America.
His "War on Poverty" budget that just came out, if passed (I, sincerely doubt) will, slowly, kill poor ppl and seniors and totally ruin the ecology. he promised to "take care" of the inner cities and is cutting HUD by 31% and all Social Services. Meals on Wheels etc... "How much worse can it get" he told them" to con them into voting for him. "What do you have to lose" he said. They're going to find out in a very bad way. This, in combination with allowing the Police to do, almost, anything they want to do and the abandonment of Civil Rights issues (tell me that Sessions doesn't look like he hid in a White Hood at some point!) in these neighborhoods will, further promote and escalate the "War Zone" mentality in the inner cities. I never thought I'd say this but, what Charlie Manson said just might come to fruition! A good comparison of "men" actually. Neither is delusional, both are EVIL.

giershift43
  3/16/2017 13:06 EST

Yes Mexjuan and he is especially hunting those who elected him. I hope see a backlash at Republicans that may help temper AO plans. More reasons to leave the country. Do you think those who voted for him will catch on?

MexJuan1
  3/16/2017 13:12 EST

I can't speculate on that. They were dumb enough to vote for him. The 60% of his electorate might when his policies begin to effect them. The White Americans are, probably celebrating this announcement. his solid, 40-43% loyal base, I don't think, will not waiver.

GigiB87
  3/16/2017 13:28 EST

I hate to say this, but you can stamp your feet and fume and hold your breath and refuse to waiver and turn your back on potential allies if they lack your political purity, but so what? And
it won't do a g.d. thing to change anything. Trump is not a constant even if he is an unbelievable A.H., fraud, conman and want to be dictator. He needs to go, and fast. But climate change that threatens all life on our planet is much more of a constant and infinitely worsr, as is nuclear proliferation. Our President is a trivial piece of garbage and the sooner another 40 or 50 million people pick up on that the better off we will be. Now have at me! I'm going to turn off the computer and calm down and will check on the 'friendly' fire later.

MexJuan1
  3/16/2017 13:39 EST

You're all right gigi. Climate Change is disavowed. Military and Nuclear Proliferation both up considerably. He must go for the World to be safe. he wants War! I just meant that, currently, he and his barrage on America and the World, currently, is constant. he must go, no doubt. Climate Change IS the largest threat to mankind. N. Korea is a relevant Nuclear Threat as are many others. A 29% cut to the State Dept. virtually, removes America's "Soft Power". In other words, no diplomacy. Hard Power, Military Spending, etc, up 54%. It doesn't take a Math wiz to figure out that equation...

tucevich24
  3/16/2017 17:46 EST

Jeez, you people are such morons!

MexJuan1
  3/16/2017 17:51 EST

Hey Gigi, the name caller is back. Maybe he'll answer your question now? Don't hold your breath...

giershift43
  3/16/2017 18:42 EST

The only thing AO wants to spend money on is war. But he is cutting art, science, health and social programs. There will be nothing worth fighting for. He just wants to invade and conquer some country. I would not be surprised if he and Putin have a plan to divide up Europe. He is evil.

nelsonokelmgmailcom
  3/16/2017 18:45 EST

T Rump is a total disaster to the USA and the planet!

giershift43
  3/17/2017 08:58 EST

I agree he is a disaster and the first to get hurt will be his base, white rural people.

MexJuan1
  3/17/2017 09:33 EST

I have no sympathy for them at all. They made an uniformed and, obviously, stupid decision to support an unhinged, unqualified liar. When you "drink the kool aid", you suffer the consequences. Anyone who voted for that idiot and put him where he doesn't belong has no right, now, to complain about anything that happens to them. They got what they wanted!

giershift43
  3/17/2017 09:52 EST

It is a puzzle when it has and is so obvious that the man is a habitual liar that they thought he would honor promises to them.

GigiB87
  3/17/2017 18:45 EST

Good points guys. But if Trump manages to take us all on successfully it is only because we let him. Even the relatively conservative Albuquerque Journal in my town is blasting him. I guarantee you many, many Republicans despise him. Maybe not enough, and I don't know exactly what that means and I suppose some of them deserve what they get but that is small consolation for the rest of us and our children. 'F' Trump and his ilk and let's do everything we can to correct this travesty. You down with that, weird right wing internet voices (tucevich et al)?

GigiB87
  3/17/2017 18:57 EST

Just saw news story about proposed Mexican legislation to curtail many of their citizens' civil liberties. Not sure of the details, or how likely this is, but this disease is contagious and needs to be stopped.

tucevich24
  3/17/2017 19:38 EST

Hey Nitwit...his approval rating is 52%.

GigiB87
  3/17/2017 19:42 EST

You never answered my question, if you and tucevich are the same person, coward. Where did you pull out that %, by the way?

giershift43
  3/17/2017 19:43 EST

Really even Fox gives his a disapproval rating of 51% Disapproval.

margewoodfill
  3/17/2017 19:49 EST

poll/203198/presidential-approval-ratings-donald-trump.aspx

tucevich24
  3/17/2017 20:04 EST

Coward? Talking to your ilk is like talking to a wall. I previously posted a detailed summary of my background on Capitol Hill and you falsely asserted I claimed to have been a "democratic strategist." You just make things up. You totally ignore the reality that voters were tired of politicians that made promises with no intention of keeping them. Trump, whether you like it or not, is doing what he promised to do in his campaign. The primary criticism has been with respect to repealing Obamacare (not soon enough). The fact is he has only been in office since January 20th--and already has created 300,000 jobs and reduced the $20 TRILLION deficit by $62 billion dollars. The federal workforce is bloated and needs paring. Even Eisenhower as president lamented the bureaucrats blocking his orders ("as a general I gave orders and t was done. As president, unless I follow up 3 times, nothing gets done") The fact is that the interest alone on the $20 trillion debt crowds out available funding other worthwhile endeavors. Social Security Disability is already bankrupt (per the SSA Board of trustees and the Commissioner of SSA) which means the Old Age and Retirement Fund is being raided. Politicians have continually kicked the can down the road without addressing practical problems. The military has been pared back to dangerous levels to enable a strong and credible defense capability. History teaches us that weakness invites aggression. Strength insures peace.
Of course, none of this will mean anything to you or MexJuan as you simply choose to spew your political venom over and over with ongoing moronic rants. Try to engage in some critical thinking for a change instead of simply spewing out talking points from Rachel Maddow or the Huffington Post for a change.

tucevich24
  3/17/2017 20:12 EST

What poll? What was the "universe" of those polled? Are they registered to vote? Are evenly weighted with the actual voter registrations (a reliable poll will weigh the actual number of democrats, republicans, and independents). The reason all the polls were so far off in the last election was that they over weighed democrats to the exclusion of republicans and independents...it also depends on how the questions are framed...

giershift43
  3/17/2017 20:57 EST

All valid points

giershift43
  3/17/2017 20:59 EST

He promised everyone would be covered by health care
He did not say access and charge more the older you are.

GigiB87
  3/17/2017 22:19 EST

Here we go Tucevich. Eisenhower bemoaned the Military-Industrial complex as well. Pollsters were definitely off with Trump, in part because of last minute bashing of HC, we can argue about its validity. I defy you, you miserable angry old man, to present any evidence of over sampling Dems in polls. I have a Master's degree in Economic Statistics and can actually tell if your head is where I think it is. Do you deny 24,000,000 will lose healthcare if AO gets his way? And do you deny SS fund was fine until drained by Congress? It was designed to be self sustaining. Where exactly have the billions Trump has 'saved' come from? I believe we spend more on 'Defense ' now than a number of the countries below us in the list, correct? I call that dangerously low, suuuure. Maybe things could be tweaked with Defense and Healthcare, but you are symptomatic of generations of conservatives that have a dangerously flawed political and economic paradigm that invariably ends up costing more than it benefits. Do the liberals sometimes go too far, sure, but you lack the subtlety of perception it takes to see where exactly those weaknesses are, and would prefer to tear everything apart rather than take the time to see further. You probably thing climate change is either 'natural' or nonexistent, and that in itself makes you a dangerous fool. And the idea that many statisticians and poll takers would intentionally try to be wrong is ludicrous. I don't agree with RM on everything, but she certainly seems to be far beyond you in intellectual ability, acuity and integrity and I would take her word, because I respect her integrity, over a pathetic remnant of a earlier era like yourself any gd day in the week. Now let's here, in words you understand, your pathetic, simplistic drivel and I will take some Pepto and try to look at it, god knows why, in the morning.

GigiB87
  3/17/2017 22:30 EST

Oh, and Google Amelia Allen and Haley Pryor and their 'adventures' in a Santa Fe restaurant to see where the Trump era is taking us.

GigiB87
  3/17/2017 22:30 EST

Oh, and Google Amelia Allen and Haley Pryor and their 'adventures' in a Santa Fe restaurant to see where the Trump era is taking us.

giershift43
  3/17/2017 22:55 EST

Gigi's, I have a Bachelors in Econ. I'm impressed. Not joking. And you make sense to me.

GigiB87
  3/17/2017 23:32 EST

Thanks.

MexJuan1
  3/18/2017 09:19 EST

"tucevich" is FAKE NEWS. Is that an acceptable "spewing of talking points" for your "ilk"? Ahahahaha Oh and, how's that investigation that you cited so vehemently going into the "wire tapping" of your evil leader? Bipartisan Intel Committee Chiefs and ALL top Republicans have denounced it as being a "baseless accusation" but, I'm sure that you believe Spicer's ridiculous, concocted rant citing anonymously sourced news outlets with even more conspiracy theories and false accusations, one of which they have been told to speak no more and for which he has been made to apologize. It's amazing to me how they use the news to PROVE their inane points but, out of the other side of their lying mouths, call it FAKE NEWS! That can, only, be done when you have no shame, morals or ethics. No credibility, just like you... I, as others I'm sure, hope that when the Mexican ppl elect Obrador you'll be among the first group sent packing. You can go to W. Va. and starve and die with the rest of his base on ALL the "promises" he's kept. "Doing what he said he would do" ... Nonsense!

giershift43
  3/18/2017 10:01 EST

Mexjuan, I appreciate your passion and view of which I hold many. I just do not think descending to their level and name calling is helpful. I hope that people would not fall victim to fake news like the birther lie and the wiretap lie. Sadly bring jobs back and health care lies to misled the wishful thinkers should lead to disappointment and anger. Industry and commerce are changing in ways that factory jobs that use to be cannot come back.. As long as we have a profit driven health care, people are not a priority. Valuing truth and fact over repeating false hoods until those who do not think or verify needs to be what we value and promote.

GigiB87
  3/18/2017 11:32 EST

I can handle a little name calling as long as it is buttressed some good facts/data. Especially,for me anyway, in humorous vein.
(Bush Jr. was born on 3d base and thought he hit a triple.) Clearly for AO it needs to be more hard core humor. But I have to restrain myself at the gym to keep from flipping off the TV when I see his cara fea. Does that make me a bad person?

giershift43
  3/18/2017 11:41 EST

Gigb,
No it does not make you bad, just in touch with your feelings and in control enough to keep from making a scene.

MexJuan1
  3/18/2017 11:58 EST

No, it doesn't. "W" has become much more humanized and, actually, quite humorous at times but, it will never excuse the needless deaths and cost of quality of life to many young ppl, needlessly and, again, by lying to the American ppl by igniting an Unconstitutional War just to avenge H.W. and enrich Czar Cheney and his rich friends. I doubt that the same "humanity" will ever be considered for the current excuse of a president. Simply because it's just not there.

giershift43
  3/18/2017 12:04 EST

Mexjuan, I agree, if it weren't for their money and power, Those responsible for taking us into Iraq, should have been put on trial for crimes against the nation.

GigiB87
  3/18/2017 12:16 EST

Well, remember all the satires of Hitler. I remember Chaplin and that big balloon made to look like a globe he was bouncing into the air until it burst. Can be very effective as propaganda. Agree with imbecility of Iraq decision. Sad that these idiots just want another military adventure and more spending. For what did Eisenhower say the money for a bomber could be better spent, tucevich et al? Hint- it wasn't tanks and missiles.

GigiB87
  3/18/2017 12:17 EST

Well, remember all the satires of Hitler. I remember Chaplin and that big balloon made to look like a globe he was bouncing into the air until it burst. Can be very effective as propaganda. Agree with imbecility of Iraq decision. Sad that these idiots just want another military adventure and more spending. For what did Eisenhower say the money for a bomber could be better spent, tucevich et al? Hint- it wasn't tanks and missiles.

Rodrigo1974
  3/18/2017 16:11 EST

nobody seems to be focusing very much on the bum of a president that is in office in mexico. he's even less popular than trump. how about the crud politicians that run mexico? not that i'm a fan of trump in the slightest, but obama was doing a job on mexico and mexicans as well. it's just that the media concealed it.

stevenlloyd
  3/18/2017 16:33 EST

I was just in Mexico and have to agree in that every Mexican I met open to talking politics was quick to charge their president as being corrupt and ineffective. They also questioned how he won the election with such a small percentage of the popular vote (the Americans we were with at the time mused on how familiar that sounded). Still, this fascist US president is an embarrassment to all Americans, and woefully unqualified and unprepared to be president. His strongest attribute is being a source of comedy material for late night television – except it is really not funny anymore. This growing trend toward populism and nationalism is the precursor for global war. Trump is a very dangerous man and his mental health and even sanity should be questioned. These are very sad and scary times, and I think that ex-pats in Mexico should be getting ready to re-evaluate their situation.

Iturbide
  3/18/2017 17:10 EST

A good Post S LLoyd; echoing my thoughts & sentiments. The "Free World" is leaderless with fascist, dictatorship types trying to fill the void, encouraged by one , unwittingly. unshackling us all from a better world. Most of the free world, including Canadians, albeit with polite , proper decorum and diplomacy are aghast at what is going S. of our border as is rest of the world. And the very pillars of Democracy are in huge jeopeardy.
Mexico will prevail, I hope and believe; as in the end right will prevail, not might
the ":rogues gallery" will try and fill the void. It is a time now for calm, and constructive dialogue to

Rodrigo1974
  3/18/2017 17:10 EST

i think that the reason trump won was because of what a jaded candidate hillary clinton was and has been. i initially supported elizabeth warren and then liked dr. jill stein. bill and hillary robbed the hell out of haiti, where i am a regular traveler, which makes mexico look like the land of milk and honey. peace!!

Iturbide
  3/18/2017 17:10 EST

A good Post S LLoyd; echoing my thoughts & sentiments. The "Free World" is leaderless with fascist, dictatorship types trying to fill the void, encouraged by one , unwittingly. unshackling us all from a better world. Most of the free world, including Canadians, albeit with polite , proper decorum and diplomacy are aghast at what is going S. of our border as is rest of the world. And the very pillars of Democracy are in huge jeopeardy.
Mexico will prevail, I hope and believe; as in the end right will prevail, not might
the ":rogues gallery" will try and fill the void. It is a time now for calm, and constructive dialogue to

Iturbide
  3/18/2017 17:10 EST

A good Post S LLoyd; echoing my thoughts & sentiments. The "Free World" is leaderless with fascist, dictatorship types trying to fill the void, encouraged by one , unwittingly. unshackling us all from a better world. Most of the free world, including Canadians, albeit with polite , proper decorum and diplomacy are aghast at what is going S. of our border as is rest of the world. And the very pillars of Democracy are in huge jeopeardy.
Mexico will prevail, I hope and believe; as in the end right will prevail, not might
the ":rogues gallery" will try and fill the void. It is a time now for calm, and constructive dialogue to

Iturbide
  3/18/2017 17:10 EST

A good Post S LLoyd; echoing my thoughts & sentiments. The "Free World" is leaderless with fascist, dictatorship types trying to fill the void, encouraged by one , unwittingly. unshackling us all from a better world. Most of the free world, including Canadians, albeit with polite , proper decorum and diplomacy are aghast at what is going S. of our border as is rest of the world. And the very pillars of Democracy are in huge jeopeardy.
Mexico will prevail, I hope and believe; as in the end right will prevail, not might
the ":rogues gallery" will try and fill the void. It is a time now for calm, and constructive dialogue to

louixo
  3/18/2017 17:26 EST

I haven't checked into this forum in weeks, and it's hard to believe the political armchair quarterbacks are still at it!. What have you changed? What are you going to change? The answer is NOTHING! Why not spend your energies doing something constructive, and quit whining day in and day out.
Here's a NEWS FLASH. The Republicans WON!. The Democrats LOST. The earliest that can change is 2020. Get used to it, Get a life, and try to find something to write about, or find something to do that will be useful!!!! What a time waster this thread is!

giershift43
  3/18/2017 17:42 EST

People everywhere need to re-evaluate their situation. With Trump so eager to go to war, where will there be to go. He is alienating our allies. Mexico maybe safer than the U..S. How many missiles will be pointed at the U.S. given Trump's world view.

giershift43
  3/18/2017 17:44 EST

I like your view. Fear lingering and lies brought us fascism in the past and Trump now.

giershift43
  3/18/2017 17:48 EST

Trump winning is the Free world losing. We will talk and resist. Call us what you will. I don't hear whinnying, I hear discussion instead of blindly following a delusional leader.

stevenlloyd
  3/18/2017 19:21 EST

The only thing necessary for ignorance and evil to triumph and persist is for good people to sit back and do or say nothing. This trend toward populism and nationalism is not a topic to ignore but a phenomena sensible thinking people should be very concerned about. As previously stated by myself and others, this is a condition that can be recognized as a precursor to both previous world wars. The search to “get a life” will not be realized by a person sticking their head further into the sand. While it might be true the soonest Americans can hope for change is 2020, growing xenophobia and hate everywhere is not a topic to just decide to ignore. In this case silence is akin to acceptance.

giershift43
  3/18/2017 20:03 EST

I'm not silent, but I am getting to the point in life that I feel weakened and tired. I have fought the good fight. These days I measure what I can do to not be wiped out with fatigue.... I think they just want to kill off the weak and poor for their greed and power,

Iturbide
  3/18/2017 20:06 EST

S.Loyd another good post.. Hope not history repeats itself in this particular moment Too Dnaderous!+
.. Fear the past dark events will get be darker.. but let us all hope and have faith that good will prevail over its counterpart.

Iturbide
  3/18/2017 20:06 EST

S.Loyd another good post.. Hope not history repeats itself in this particular moment Too Dnaderous!+
.. Fear the past dark events will get be darker.. but let us all hope and have faith that good will prevail over its counterpart.

Iturbide
  3/18/2017 20:06 EST

S.Loyd another good post.. Hope not history repeats itself in this particular moment Too Dnaderous!+
.. Fear the past dark events will get be darker.. but let us all hope and have faith that good will prevail over its counterpart.

MexJuan1
  3/18/2017 20:08 EST

Very well said Mr. Lloyd! Change can come in 2018 for sure and, possibly, sooner if he keeps cutting his own throat with his Twitter Account and continues to break promises to his base. The, ultimate, worst thing that anyone can do is to shut up and take it. An evil bully loves it when that happens.

Cozumeldeb
  3/18/2017 23:18 EST

Tucevich, Where do u get your news? Let me guess..In the low 30's and sinking as Russia ties become clearer..BTW, West Palm is saying they can't afford him any more..9 trips to his fantasy world, this weekend to play golf and have a VA meetings, but forgot to invite head of VA so meeting cancelled..So he played more multi million $$ golf and approved slashing Meals on Wheels funding, because their is no evidence it works vs starvation..

giershift43
  3/19/2017 09:09 EST

More broken promises from Trump including still not producing his tax returns, now U.S. citizens will pay for the wall and coverage by health care has turn to access with rising premiums tied to age. I do not know how anyone can say he has kept his promises.

MexJuan1
  3/19/2017 11:03 EST

This is a BILLIONAIRE!!! To say that he's beholding to no one because his campaign ( Clown Show) was, totally, financed by his own money, which it wasn't, is nothing more than another lie. He is catering and will continue and only cater to the five million millionaires and the billionaires of America. That is, obviously, his focus... ie., 592 million or billion ( I'm not 100% sure with all the BS going on) dollars in tax breaks for the rich/wealthy and loss of coverage for, initially 14M (24M over the next decade) under the AHCA. I'm 65, on Medicaire and healthy but, I would be heart broken for the 60-64 age persons who MIGHT be able to afford Catastrophic Care only and the millions of poor, sick and disabled younger ppl who will just lose coverage. "Access" is BS! Everyone has "access" to a BMW. If you, only, make 25K/yr, you can't AFFORD it, right? I just saw a piece on the Happiest Country in the World, Denmark. Free Health Care, Free Education, 12 months paid Maternity Leave, 5 weeks/yr vacation from work etc. Described as a Social Democracy by a Danish Official. And yes, they pay 50% taxes and yes, they have problems but, money doesn't rule their lives. Care for and the happiness of their ppl does. U. S. at 13 with Brazil and Mexico a few ticks behind. A Capitalistic Dictatorship is not the happiest place to be... Obviously.

giershift43
  3/19/2017 11:13 EST

MexJuan,
I agree.

MexJuan1
  3/19/2017 11:20 EST

And with that, I'm going to spend the rest of my day, after a nice long walk this morning, on March Madness instead of the Political Madness. Might take a break for 60 Minutes but, after that, right back to the Tournament! Ciao toute'. ;-)

nelsonokelmgmailcom
  3/19/2017 11:22 EST

With the health program that T Rump, Pence, Ryan and ReThugLicans are touting many thousands of the "less advantaged" will die. That they will attempt to sweep under the rug. Heartless bastards all!!

giershift43
  3/19/2017 12:02 EST

That seems to be their plan for what Trump calls "losers." Anyone who isn't extremely rich.

GigiB87
  3/19/2017 15:00 EST

Tell us more about what job Obama was doing on Mexicans. Do you mean the ICE dam deportation s? I know the exemptions he was called a dictator for implementing seem to be gone. Don't necessarily disagree, just not sure what you mean Rodrigo.

GigiB87
  3/19/2017 15:03 EST

Sorry the dam after ICE was added by phone. Thinks its smarter than I am. Maybe true today.

giershift43
  3/19/2017 15:48 EST

I think the only reason Obama was called dictator was for the same reason they spread the birther lie. Political gain and exploitation of racism.

nelsonokelmgmailcom
  3/19/2017 15:53 EST

giershift43 RIGHT ON!!!!!

giershift43
  3/19/2017 15:56 EST

Which worked well with either the altright and the ignorant that like simple cause effect and knew little of history and how government worked. What Obama did with Mexico was maintain a friendly relationship of respect.

GigiB87
  3/19/2017 17:37 EST

And louixo, what did your misguided group do when Obama was elected. Worst President ever, dangerous radical Muslim who wasn't even born here. Communist, liar, you name it. Then they took your suggestion and sat back.... Oh wait, they took over state governments, partially through gerrymandering, poisoned the H20 of disadvantaged Michigan citizens and managed to take over House and Senate, with the help of Wikileaks and,Russia. That's exactly what the Dems are going to do, hopefully minus the water poisoning and the traitorous, possibly impeachable acts. Peace

MexJuan1
  3/19/2017 18:16 EST

Hey GigiB, relax girl. It's a beautiful Sunday! Hopefully, we'll know more tomorrow?! Comey does concern me though. His, irrelevant but, highly destructive 10/11 days before the election "reckless announcement" tells me that, either, he was corrupted by a Mad Man or, at the very least, had a preference. I'm concerned, as are others I'm sure, about his ability to be truthful as well as his credibility. As for Obama, his record speaks for itself in the face of an obstructionism Republican Congress and a Racist America. I do believe that his Foreign Policy may have been a bit weak but that man, as a "legitimate President" brought the U.S. back from the brink after the Bush/Cheney Agenda. A place that this a-hole is taking us back to and then some... Barack Hussein Obama (I love saying his entire name cause I know it just infuriates the Right. ;-) is and will be regarded with great respect and dignity. He was and is a highly intellectual and professional man who, as President, cared for the ppl of America and the World. "Cartoon Donald" will never enjoy that type of reputation or adulation. Well, except for what might be left of his (delusional) base after he's effed over the rest of them. So, relax and enjoy the rest of your day... Starting with Monday, this should be an interesting and telling week. One way or the other. The heat is on...

giershift43
  3/19/2017 19:21 EST

The insider of the Dems is working for themselves with crumbs and not much fight for the people. Sad, but what can I do at this point in my life. I guess remind people that what the nation has gone to is right wing. Obama was a moderate and called liberal.. I can only hope times will change for the better. I dream of a peaceful last chapter in Lake Chapala area.

GigiB87
  3/19/2017 19:59 EST

Im pretty relaxed, less so while writing note to tucevich. Am going to pick up new vehicle tomorrow, which gives me the ability to get out of Albuquerque. So looking forward to that. This town is in the top 5 for all the bad metrics, frequently first. Are Dems really living on crumbs? Like to see some proof. I know the Student Newspaper here is advertising dozens of jobs lobbying for progressive causes, more than usual. Still many liberal and some conservatiiv anti AO wealthy, and poor but motivated, donors.

giershift43
  3/19/2017 20:10 EST

That was a typing error. When I saw what came out even I wondered what I intended. The top leaders of the party have forgotten their base. They are too comfortable taking money from big donors and do not seem to really care about working people anymore. I was active in the Party in 2008. Even attended the DNC. I was very disappointed with how rigged it appeared.

GigiB87
  3/20/2017 01:08 EST

Tone deaf would be a good description, GS, for the Dems recently. D Party in New Mexico known for corruption. Google Mannie Aragon if you have time. 5 years in.Club Fed. Hopefully this will be a big time wakeup call for Dems. Peace and goodnight to you.

MexJuan1
  3/20/2017 04:46 EST

"Keeping up with the DjTrashians" just another "Reality Show" based on talentless, incompetent ppl who no one really cares about.
Gallup Polls have him (is there anything lower than lower case?) at a 37% Disapproval Rating. Even Jimmy Carter was twice that at the 60 day mark of his failed Presidency! And he is and was a very nice man!!! Of course, his crumbling base will dispute this, citing Fox News (even they denounced the "wire tapping" allegations as "baseless"), the likes of Mark Levin and a certifiable kook, Alex Jones, Hannity and "The Mooch" Anthony Scaramuchi (have you seen this guy? A real piece of work. He's been promised a position in the administration. Quelle supris!) as being biased, "Fake News" and announce his @real Approval Ratings at 52/53%. Don't " drink that Kool-Aid" either. It's NOT TRUE. Majority of 18-30 year olds (except for WHITES, of course! Young, dumb WHITE PPL) denounce him as an illegitimate president by far. Credibility is waning daily. his own words (lies retold as "truth" by his loyalists) are coming back to haunt him and kill EO's and legislation (totally ineffectual) and ppl are starting to come after him, physically, now. (This, I DO NOT endorse but, it is happening) Two at the WH and one, now, at Mar a Lago. Melting before our eyes is the "Wicked Evil from the East". If just one someone with balls (and another job waiting for them when they're fired) can stand up and tell the truth about what happened and what is, really, going on, he'll go down. The "LIAR in Chief" is hiding in Mar a Lago. Is on the run. Drowning in his own words. It's getting very hot in the kitchen as he appoints Loyalists to Cabinet Agencies as his "eyes and ears" to spy on potential enemies (ppl who tell the truth are his enemies) If that last fact doesn't smack of a Dictatorship, Bannon's Lenin , Fascism and Stephen Miller's Nazi tactics, I don't know what does? The Titanic is going down and he is the iceberg. The Hindenburg is crashing and he is the explosion AND the flame. Top Republicans won't back him on most everything. Allied Countries are aghast. There is a glimmer of hope that the country and the World will be saved from this evil.

MexJuan1
  3/20/2017 08:23 EST

ON THE UNITED STATES FALLING FROM 13 TO 14 ON THE SCALE OF THE HAPPIEST COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD:
The United States is falling in the ranking due to inequality, distrust and corruption. Economic measures that the administration of President Donald Trump is trying to pursue, added, will make things worse.

MexJuan1
  3/20/2017 19:17 EST

As "Dandy Don Meredith" would sing on Monday Night Football when a team was, obviously, going to lose, "Turn out the lights. The party's over... " Beginning of the end. They can, now, subpoena him and his tax returns. Awfully quiet on this subject today/tonight! Everyone must be out celebrating? Well, maybe, not everyone?

Cozumeldeb
  3/20/2017 19:22 EST

Fingers crossed, 37% approval and sinking, Russia connections + jerking healthcare from 60% of his supporters is NOT a winning plan.

MexJuan1
  3/20/2017 19:25 EST

Also dropped 220 places on Forbes List. Bad day for the King. No sympathy, whatsoever, here!

giershift43
  3/20/2017 19:31 EST

Yes MexJuan, I just read that too. So sad he apparently is as rich today as yesterday. I do not want to count on anything with AO. It was disturbing enough, surreal that he got into office at all.

MexJuan1
  3/20/2017 19:46 EST

Where I come from, wrong side of the tracks in a Steel Town in Ohio, you cause pain, you get pain! His is on the way. They've got things all lined up against him or they wouldn't be doing this. he will deflect blame, of course and in the end, just be sent on his way. Should be hung for treason but, him being gone will be good enough.

giershift43
  3/20/2017 20:36 EST

Mexjuan, I grew up in Cleveland. My father was a welder.

MexJuan1
  3/20/2017 20:47 EST

Cool. Youngstown/Warren area for me...lives in Strongsville for eight years a while back too.

giershift43
  3/21/2017 10:04 EST

Until age 16, we lived on the Southeast side of Cleveland then moved to Parma. Then Mentor in Lake County. I graduated first from Cleveland State in Economics and then got a MSSA from Case Western. In 1982 as the economy was imploding, my husband took a job in Columbus, Ohio. Where I live now. I am trying to figure out how to get moved to Lake Chapala given current entanglements and family in Columbus.
It is heart breaking to see how far to the right the nation has moved to the detriment of the 99%.

GigiB87
  3/21/2017 11:05 EST

Good time to be a sports fan in Ohio. Depressing how far the nation can move in national elections over a relatively small # of votes. Remember when it used to be said the two major parties were indistinguishable? Not so much now, IMO. Hope your dreams for the future come true and everything is wonderful.

giershift43
  3/21/2017 11:40 EST

Gigb, Thanks. I found myself writing my senators this morning asking why are profits in health insurance and for pharmaceuticals considered a right, but not health care for the people. The nation is 34th in health care, but first in costs. The for profit motive in health care has been failing while nations with national health insurance are less expensive and provide better care.

MexJuan1
  3/21/2017 12:15 EST

Wonderful? I don't know about that! First and foremost, the "fake" ,lying, incompetent president must be gone. They're getting close to his financials and Russian ties so, he might just resign. With all the highly illegal activities he's involved in already, he should have been impeached. You know the tax payers just paid for Don and Eric to go to Dubai to do "Trump business", don't you? Tip of the iceberg, no doubt. The U.S. will, still, have to deal with the ultra conservative Pence and the rest of DJT's merry band of fascists have to be gone too! The "dream", my dream is far from being realized. Anyone with half a brain could have seen this coming... America and the World have been and continue to be damaged from this abhorent event. Recovery is a long way off from the first step taken yesterday. And I would, vehemently, disagree with you concerning the disparity about the political parties. Evidenced, boldly, yesterday by Democrats focusing on the gravity of the danger at hand while Republicans sought to, basically and solely, address and concentrate on the subject of leaks. A true American, Dem/Rep should be deeply concerned about what, obviously, occurred and not about how we found it out. They (Rep.) just want to "shoot the messenger" so, you can, absolutely differentiate. Are most or all politicians corrupt and self serving? Sure. But the policy focus and implementation between the two is, remarkably, different. BTW, U.S. State Dept. is advising against Spring Break trips to Mexico. A good thing for those of us against drunk, disorderly, problematic coeds but, certainly, a bad thing for Mexico's economy should it send that money elsewhere...

GigiB87
  3/21/2017 14:25 EST

I give up. You win. Happy?

MexJuan1
  3/21/2017 14:35 EST

It's not about winning Gigi. It's about getting back to some sense of normalcy so we can all exist with a modicum of safety from the current evil environment in which we all exist. Don't "give up" ever. Continue to speak out against it until it is gone. You've made many good, insightful points that I have appreciated a great deal. I just happened to disagree with your last...

Cozumeldeb
  3/21/2017 14:47 EST

On the news today out of Cancun, college punks chanting, "Build the wall now!" Plus a lot of bad name calling of the local people..Trump-scum has unleashed the Ugly White Trash Americans.

giershift43
  3/21/2017 15:24 EST

That's awful. Incomprehensible

MexJuan1
  3/21/2017 15:49 EST

That's been my point all along. Through nasty exhibitions like that, the "Ugly Americans", negative administration policy towards Mexican immigrants coupled with the disrespect shown towards Mexico, their ppl and that STUPID wall, hatred towards Americans could, possibly, assimilate throughout the country. It is extremely sad...
I'm looking at Nicaragua, Portugal, Honduras, etc. I love it here and love my life here but, becoming "persona non grata" was not part of my retirement plan. DJT is a Cancer with wide spreading consequences. Thanks for reporting that to us Deb! I'm sure that it's an example of many incidents reported and unreported and a good reason why we must not remain silent. It might not change anything but, to say nothing is a sign of acceptance. Many persons have criticized those of us who have perpetuated this subject but, I maintain that the possibility of the current state could/will effect us, dramatically, as U.S. Expats here in Mexico. Therefore, it is an extremely important and pertinent subject.

giershift43
  3/21/2017 15:53 EST

I agree with you about DT. But Lake Chapala is so much a retirement community supported by expats that I think is may not have the kind of issues that you fear the most. There was an American woman there who owns a T-shirt store selling anti-Trump Tshirts.

MexJuan1
  3/21/2017 15:57 EST

That's great news! I hope you're right about that. If this jackass is removed from the WH and Obrador doesn't get elected in Mexico, we may have a chance yet? Bottom line, things have to change...

Cozumeldeb
  3/21/2017 16:44 EST

I agree 100% MexJuan..Hoping the investigation moves fast and we can dump Trump. I've not seen any indication of bad feelings in our area yet..Was in Guadalajara last week and again no issues or problems, lovely people and places..Don't pack up yet, but do cross Honduras off you list, not safe..

MexJuan1
  3/22/2017 17:24 EST

So now, chairman nunes has made it, virtually, impossible for the bipartisan intelligence committee to do it's job properly by lying for the liar in chief. I'm sure that was his goal. If politics is not removed from this process on this ridiculous claim, lie upon lie, and a Non Partisan Select Committee is not appointed to continue to waste time on this false wire tapping issue and get an honest look at the trump/Russia connection, Republicans like nunes, gowdy et al will foul the investigation purposely. Apparently, the head of the FBI and NSA's statements that there is no evidence that this ever happened mean nothing to a pathological liar... The insanity, lack of morals and ethics of trump and now nunes (and certainly trey gowdy) is astounding! There is no low too low to which they will stoop.

giershift43
  3/22/2017 17:43 EST

I agree, it will never end with an end to the corruption.

MexJuan1
  3/22/2017 17:48 EST

Highly corrupt business "man" to the most corrupt president in history in a corrupt political system with corrupt politicians to whom he can spread his cancer of lies. Nothing should come as a surprise but, it's just a delay and deflection of the inevitable.

giershift43
  3/22/2017 17:49 EST

I agree

GigiB87
  3/22/2017 19:17 EST

Looks like AO, if I am reading news correctly, is trying to get funding for additional Justice Dept. lawyers to assist in condemnation of land along the border so 'Wall' can be built there.
Can state property be condemned by feds? I know New Mexicans are trying hard to keep state land free of this waste of $$.
Just gets stranger and stranger.

MexJuan1
  3/22/2017 19:28 EST

Whether they can or can't, I don't know and with this crook, does it matter? Can/can't, will/won't, legal/illegal? I, really, don't think that any of these things matter to him whatsoever, do you?

worxs
  3/23/2017 10:48 EST

I am not afraid of that Virus from Africa... He is no longer president. Lets stack the supreme court with conservatives. It feels good that Trump is President. Time for the grown-ups to clean up the USA.

Cozumeldeb
  3/23/2017 13:20 EST

You live in Mexico? You took a wrong turn, go back to red state losers..

MexJuan1
  3/23/2017 13:39 EST

Enjoy your misguided adoration while you can. Wave your Confederate Flag high and wear your racism proudly. It must be empowering to be in that constantly diminishing 37% minority? That's about all I care to say to the likes of someone like you...

Cozumeldeb
  3/23/2017 15:28 EST

MexJuan..Ditto!

giershift43
  3/23/2017 16:56 EST

Mexjuan who are you talking to?

giershift43
  3/23/2017 16:59 EST

Now I know who Mexjuan was talking to. Good grief delusional hate monger

GigiB87
  3/23/2017 17:19 EST

Also stupid, or unbelievably ignorant and too lazy to make an effort to remedy that affliction.

worxs
  3/23/2017 20:21 EST

I wish the Canadians would quit giving their opinions on USA.

MexJuan1
  3/23/2017 20:23 EST

Was (see no need to anymore though) talking to "worxs" giershift. Not sure about the handle? Not worth remembering anyway...

GigiB87
  3/24/2017 11:24 EST

I have been receiving communications from Daily Kos (don't know what Kos means) a group that seems very focused and informed on ways of standing up to, and fighting, this disease we are suffering from. [email protected] Also like Nate Silvers internet 538 news letter.
Wonder about some of these weird right wing internet personalities life experiences and educational levels.

giershift43
  3/24/2017 14:21 EST

I have subscribed to Daily Kos for years. Best I can determine, it is another way to write cause. I like to read the Root as well for the African American perspective.

Cozumeldeb
  3/24/2017 17:20 EST

Daily Kos is a legit site supporting progressives + Hillary...

GigiB87
  3/24/2017 17:48 EST

Well I just took their advice and emailed our Senator Udall re: filibuster of Gorsuch nomination. May not do much, but just have to keep hammering away.

giershift43
  3/24/2017 18:01 EST

Thank you

GigiB87
  3/24/2017 18:49 EST

Ryan just pulled Obamacare repeal bill. Republicans didn't have votes. Admitted that for foreseeable future it is law of land.

MexJuan1
  3/24/2017 18:57 EST

Yes. They CANNOT govern! Total incompetence top to bottom is America's only saving grace. Not to mention bills that are anti populous at best. Trump is blaming Dems for no support when, in fact, it was the Republicans saying "NO" that doomed the bill. Even after he threatened them. They're NOT afraid of him! So much for the art of the deal...

giershift43
  3/24/2017 19:34 EST

They still blame it on OBama and the Democrats. This is truly the party of irresponsibility.

GigiB87
  3/24/2017 19:36 EST

Frankly, those idiots can bite me, esp Rep Nunes.

giershift43
  3/24/2017 19:37 EST

LOL that's the attitude!

GigiB87
  3/24/2017 20:21 EST

Back to Mexico and expats. Does anyone know how many US citizens are Mexican residents. Interesting to see what the contribution to Mexican economy is. Just discussing w/friend. Guess we can google it.

MsAlex
  3/24/2017 21:12 EST

According to the Mexican national census of 2010 there were 738,103 American and 7,943 Canadian year round residents of Mexico. That's a subtotal of 747,046. But in addition to these year round residents of Mexico, there are literally hundreds of thousands of "snowbirds" who come down for just the winter months, many of whom maintain homes in Mexico.

That's how I believe some people get to the often repeated estimate of "one million gringos" in Mexico. You can also presume that the numbers have grown over the past seven years.

Alex

MsAlex
  3/24/2017 21:12 EST

According to the Mexican national census of 2010 there were 738,103 American and 7,943 Canadian year round residents of Mexico. That's a subtotal of 747,046. But in addition to these year round residents of Mexico, there are literally hundreds of thousands of "snowbirds" who come down for just the winter months, many of whom maintain homes in Mexico.

That's how I believe some people get to the often repeated estimate of "one million gringos" in Mexico. You can also presume that the numbers have grown over the past seven years.

Alex

GigiB87
  3/24/2017 21:56 EST

Thanks. Just looked it up myself. Since those were 2010 figures, # may have grown. Saw a Mexican estimate of 2,000,000. Assuming 1,000,000 of permanent residents (excluding tourists) and a conservative estimate of $1,000 a month spent, that would be one billion a month spent in Mexico. Not trivial. And an economist like giershift knows injections of outside $$ into an economy have a multiplier effect on that economy, in this case maybe as much as 2.5. So that would be a couple if billion $ a month or more for Mexican economy. Has to be considered.

GigiB87
  3/26/2017 15:13 EST

Heartbreaking and hard to watch some of the things going on in D.C. Sort of a slow motion train wreck. Difficult to understand (and hope they figure it out soon) how many of those voting for AO see what he is doing as benefitting them. Sorry, I know this is supposed to be about Mexico. But once too much power is given to corporate interests it is difficult to get them to relinquish it, and they can rationalize almost anything they do to consumers and lower level workers as 'good for the economy' and thus good for everybody.

LeiaRowan
  3/26/2017 23:09 EST

Who the hell is AO?

LeiaRowan
  3/26/2017 23:09 EST

Who the hell is AO?

LeiaRowan
  3/26/2017 23:09 EST

Who the hell is AO?

GigiB87
  3/26/2017 23:16 EST

El agente de color naranja, el presidente.

giershift43
  3/26/2017 23:19 EST

Lol Agent Orange aka Donald.

MexJuan1
  3/27/2017 08:28 EST

Well Gigi, it is a conundrum, to be sure but, find some solace in these facts. He is now, totally, ineffective to legislate any policy or law. His base is beginning to turn against him as they see him screwing them and breaking the promises he's made to them as evidenced by the 37% approval rating. Wall Street is beginning their decent from belief in his false jobs and business claims. Most of what he's taken credit for had, already, been in the works in 2015 or the result of things Obama did. The "LEGITIMATE PRESS" will not go away and the liars are backing off their claims and/or apologizing. The Russia "thing" is not going away no matter what Nunes does and Manafort is coming forward to save his ass because he knows if he doesn't, he will end up in jail so, he might "spill the beans"? Or lie?! Remember, they did fire him rather abruptly. And others who were involved who were "dumping" their phones (a crime in and of itself as they we're told to preserve evidence) will start coming forward too, to save themselves. In other words, the rats are leaving the ship! DJT, more than likely, will get a subpoena for his financial and tax records (as will the others) and then turn tail and resign so, for the criminals involved in the collusion, the light at the end of the tunnel is a train headed right for them. The bad news is that America will still be stuck with Pence and, maybe, Ryan unless they can oust him before they're out but, in 2018, I expect Congress to go back into the hands of the Dems to undo some of the damage done by the most corrupt, most ineffective, worst president in history. More bad news is that Gorsuch will, probably, be confirmed. The Dems will filibuster and it's likely that McConnell will go "Nuclear " but, he may not as that will send a dangerous precedent going forward. So, the facts in place are promising. You just have to separate the wheat from the chaff. It's a shame this ever happened but, it did and, it's being dealt with in the proper manner. He was feared in the business world and could do and get away with anything he wanted. He is NOT feared in the political arena and will be held accountable.

LeiaRowan
  3/27/2017 08:50 EST

Matalo

Cozumeldeb
  3/27/2017 08:54 EST

Day by day Trump & Co are digging their own grave. Senate investigation just called in Jared Kushner.

MexJuan1
  3/27/2017 08:56 EST

Yes, the King's walls are crumbling. Stone by stone.

giershift43
  3/27/2017 09:13 EST

I hope they are found out and brought to justice, before they do too much harm.

giershift43
  3/27/2017 09:15 EST

One article:From Russia, With Oil
Explosive Details in the Trump-Russia Investigation

In the past week, there have been several startling revelations about the investigations into Donald Trump, his closest allies, and their ties to Russia. Not only has the existence of two investigations, one by the FBI and one by the House Intelligence Committee, been confirmed, but there is increasing information as to just what is being investigated: an alleged deal for Trump to advance Russian interests as President in exchange for 19% of the Russian state oil company Rosneft and Russian intelligence assistance in winning the election.

GigiB87
  3/27/2017 14:28 EST

This is unbelievable. I love it!! He certainly seems to have attained his level of incompetence (Peter Principle reference).
Washington Post had article on a So. Bend Indiana woman who thought the best of AO, and voted for him, thinking only the 'bad hombres' would go. Now her husband, by all accounts a model citizen, a business owner living in US since 1998, is sitting in an ICE detention center. Their attorney commented that this is 'hurting the entire community and people are scared.' And hopefully pissed (my words).

GigiB87
  3/27/2017 14:29 EST

This is unbelievable. I love it!! He certainly seems to have attained his level of incompetence (Peter Principle reference).
Washington Post had article on a So. Bend Indiana woman who thought the best of AO, and voted for him, thinking only the 'bad hombres' would go. Now her husband, by all accounts a model citizen, a business owner living in US since 1998, is sitting in an ICE detention center. Their attorney commented that this is 'hurting the entire community and people are scared.' And hopefully pissed (my words).

GigiB87
  3/27/2017 15:24 EST

Been reading up on Obrador, seems a little like Bernie Sanders. He wants to develop tourism in the south, and that doesn't indicate any ill intent towards expats, who contribute many $ towards the Mexican economy. This would be his third attempt at presidency. Of course, I am far from knowledgeable about Mexican politics, but many Mexicans must be starting to realize many ( maybe most) of us hate him (OA) as much as they do. Hopefully.

MexJuan1
  3/27/2017 17:49 EST

CHECK THIS ARTICLE OUT FROM THE NATIONAL REVIEW
President Trump, Be Wary of a Mexican Backlash

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by José Cárdenas
January 25, 2017 12:00 PM
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@JoseCardenasUSA
A Hugo Chávez wannabe is running for president and riding an anti-Trump wave south of the border.

After months of controversy, senior administration officials will finally sit down this week with their Mexican counterparts to begin discussing President Trump’s campaign pledges to renegotiate the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), impose tariffs on Mexican imports to discourage relocation of U.S. factory jobs, and force Mexico to pay for a wall along the nearly 2,000-mile-long U.S.–Mexico border. To say the stakes are high would be an understatement.

Yet the real challenge for Trump’s negotiating team may be not so much to accomplish those objectives as to keep the U.S.–Mexico relationship from flying off the rails and crashing in a heap of acrimony and recrimination. As it now stands, the Trump administration risks provoking a Mexican populist backlash that could result in a Mexican government led by a Hugo Chávez wannabe taking power in 2018, an outcome that could adversely affect U.S. prosperity and security for years to come.

Unsurprisingly, the manner in which candidate Trump has discussed Mexico has had its costs. There has been widespread angst and anger among the Mexican people, who resented being used as a whipping boy in the U.S. presidential campaign and feel betrayed after overcoming decades of skepticism toward the U.S. and working to entwine our economies and deepen cooperation on a range of issues, including security and counter-narcotics operations.

This uncertainty about the future of U.S.–Mexico relations also could not come at a worse time for the Mexican economy. The drop in international oil prices is sending the economy into a tailspin. According to a report this month by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence,

President [Enrique] Peña Nieto has enacted wide-ranging reforms in key industries — such as oil, communications, and finance — as well as education in an effort to enhance Mexico’s competitiveness, but growth has not increased significantly so far, and public support has soured amid corruption allegations, persistent violence, a weakening peso, and domestic crises such as the disappearance of 43 students at a demonstration in 2014.

As a result of the drop in oil prices and production, Mexico has lost about 5 percent of its GDP. Public debt as a percentage of GDP continues to rise, while foreign investment has been effectively frozen amid the uncertainty. The value of the peso is now at its lowest levels in decades and continues to be hammered by speculators after every Trump tweet mentioning the country. Earlier this month, riots and looting erupted after Peña Nieto’s broke his pledge not to cut subsidies for gasoline and prices at the pump rose as much as 20 percent in some places.


Buffeted by the poor economy, corruption scandals, and persistent violence, Peña Nieto has suffered at the polls. His approval rating has fallen to 12 percent this month, down from 24 percent in January, and is now one of the lowest for a Mexican president ever. Moreover, an overwhelming 80 percent expect an economic crisis and declining investment over the course of Trump’s presidency.

López Obrador’s strident rhetoric, appeals to nationalism, and rejection of politics as usual in Mexico may represent just the kind of leadership that Mexicans want to confront the Trump phenomenon.
Economic trouble in our southern neighbor should be on the radar screen of any U.S. president, but what makes the current situation that much more dangerous is that the person who stands to gain most from the turmoil is Mexican opposition politician André Manuel López Obrador, a left-wing populist rabble-rouser in the mold of the late Venezuelan president Hugo Chávez. López Obrador is running for the Mexican presidency (for the third time) in 2018.


In the past, AMLO, as he is known, has tested the patience of Mexicans with his demagoguery and penchant for mobilizing people in the streets, disrupting daily life. However, his strident rhetoric, appeals to nationalism, and rejection of politics as usual in Mexico may represent just the kind of leadership that Mexicans want to confront the Trump phenomenon.

Over the course of the past year, AMLO’s approval numbers have been steadily improving. A recent poll showed 27 percent of Mexicans supporting his National Regeneration Movement, against the rightist National Action party, with 24 percent, and Peña Nieto’s PRI (Institutional Revolutionary party), with 17 percent.


Last week, AMLO announced a tour of major U.S. cities in February. “Enough of being passive,” he said. “We should put a national emergency plan in place to face the damage and reverse the protectionist policies of Donald Trump.”

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An unfriendly government on our southern border could significantly complicate issues important to the U.S., on everything from border security, counterterrorism, and drug-war cooperation to deportations and restricting Central American migration — the main source of illegal border crossings — bound for the U.S. Continuing economic hardship, the likely result of AMLO’s state-centric approach, would also likely revive outward-migration pressures from Mexico to the United States, which have abated in recent years.

Reviewing NAFTA, developing an immigration policy that truly serves the national interest, and improving border security in the age of terror are certainly legitimate objectives. And President Trump is right to set them as priorities. But respectful, firm engagement — not confrontation — with our southern neighbors will be the surest way for President Trump to achieve those objectives.

And just fyi, Mexico is shopping the 2.5 Billion $ it imports in corn every year to Argentina, Brazil and Chile that it, currently, gets from the U.S. This country is not going to sit still and be abused and disrespected by the likes of DJT.

giershift43
  3/27/2017 19:04 EST

Mexjuan,
I do not like AO or his policies. But so far nothing he has tried has worked as planned by him.
What exactly do you think will happen to American citizens Living in Mexico? Being unhappy with our government is not the same as hatred of the American people and tourists.
I think being afraid plays right into AO's hand.

giershift43
  3/27/2017 19:04 EST

Mexjuan,
I do not like AO or his policies. But so far nothing he has tried has worked as planned by him.
What exactly do you think will happen to American citizens Living in Mexico? Being unhappy with our government is not the same as hatred of the American people and tourists.
I think being afraid plays right into AO's hand.

GigiB87
  3/27/2017 19:13 EST

Ouch!!! And this from WF Buckley's periodical. Haven't read it all but will do do now.

GigiB87
  3/27/2017 19:38 EST

Our business guy in New Mexico, Jerry Pacheco, director of NMIBA, of course despises Trump but doesn't paint nearly as dark a picture of Obrador (Mexican Presidential Hopeful Takes Populist Tone, Albuquerque Journal "Business Outlook', 3/27) Not saying he's right. Don't know. May email and ask him further. jerry @nmiba.com

MexJuan1
  3/27/2017 20:02 EST

Well, you're right for the most part. He's proven to be quite ineffective so far with nothing but a lot of bluster coming out of the gate and, in reality, could be chased out within the year. I think this thing with Nunes was created by him to plant doubt concerning the House Intel Committee's ability to be impartial and or to enjoin an Independent Special Committee/Counsel that he could kill by not signing for it or that would give him another year while it was voted on, made law and selected. That's the process. I'm not afraid! I am concerned for us and what may come to pass for those of us in a country he has, specifically, targeted and whose Govt. Officials are wary of and protecting against, that's all. Last I looked, he's still there and far from through creating controversy and causing trouble... This is an evil person and to not be mindful of that, in my estimation, would be neglectful of myself and others. I've never claimed that "the sky is falling" but, it never fails one to be informed. I do, for the most part, agree with your assessment though and just by his nature could render himself inconsequential...

elsidmx
  3/27/2017 20:18 EST

I've seen ZERO effects from the policies of the new president in the USA on my life here in Mexico.

I do not expect to see any in the future either.

Many Mexicans (legal or illegal) likely will have more jobs in the USA as a result of rebuilding the failing infrastructure across the USA and yes,
even the proposed "wall".

Mexico protects it's borders from illegals entering. That's what governments are supposed to do.

MexJuan1
  3/27/2017 20:42 EST

I'm happy for your optimism. If, in fact, the wall does get built and an infrastructure bill gets passed? As for the United States Govt. keeping ppl out, if it had done that, there would be no country there. It was built on immigrants. Legal and illegal. The U.S. Govt. stole the land for the country from "REAL" Indigenous Americans, raped their women and killed their men.

GigiB87
  3/27/2017 20:44 EST

How long has he been in office? 3 months, 45 to go? Give it time. eisdx, where do you live in Mexico?

giershift43
  3/27/2017 21:00 EST

I seAO as a personality disorder. He shares in common with people with personality disorders the failure to take responsibility for anything and stirrup chaos in others. It's a life long pattern. So I don't expect him to change. My hopes are on forces external to him to end this . He will blame others to the bitter end and needs to create chaos and in his case be the center of attention.

giershift43
  3/27/2017 21:08 EST

She had a family reunion last year in Galveston. At dinner my one cousin kept joking about wondering if this is where our grandparents got into the country. We can't find documents for them. As for a wall keeping people out or in, what the cartel has boats and planes. So who will the wall keep out migrant labor that is needed. There is already discussion of how much money is being lost due to the travel ban.
OA doesn't seem that be able to even understand the complexities of the situations he reckless plans are creating.

giershift43
  3/27/2017 21:11 EST

Typo: We not She in previous post.

giershift43
  3/27/2017 21:25 EST

I just know I want to live in the Ajijic area and hope it will continue to be a welcoming area. What I think about is whether to buy or rent, and to know how to do either.

GigiB87
  3/27/2017 21:33 EST

Does buying tie you down? I've owned a bunch of houses in the past. Kind of locked in if something goes wrong. But you're probably better at that stuff than I ever was. None of my business, and know nothing about real estate market in Mexico, but it seems like some kind of a long term lease might work. But N.O.M.B., just thinking out loud.

giershift43
  3/27/2017 22:00 EST

Your thoughts are appreciated. I have rental property here in Ohio. They were part of a plan to fund retirement and it does help.
The lake chapala area seem to have rentals go fast. I haven't rented for a long time, but it would make it easier to leave if I changed my mind. I just have a fantasy of my house with indoor outdoor lives no and a view. But fatansies are often not as good in reality.

MsAlex
  3/27/2017 22:41 EST

You may "know" you want to live around Lake Chapala, but the neighborhoods around here run the gamut. Living in Riberas is nothing like the Racquet Club, which is nothing like the town of Chapala, which is nothing like Chula Vista Norte.

The surest way to make a mistake is to decide quickly and on your first impression.

But that's the beautiful thing about retirement: you can take your time (if only we'd all remember to).

:)

Alex

giershift43
  3/27/2017 22:54 EST

Thanks. So far San Anotonio is a place where I come back . Sure there are places that I like that are just too expensive. I want to look more. Walkability would be helpful or close to the careterra.

GigiB87
  3/28/2017 08:15 EST

Just curious, elsidmx, where in Mexico do you live? I'd like to know where you experience zero effects from ongoing policy changes in Washington. I live in Albuquerque, NM, and all I see is the pain from these actions. Like to go somewhere where I don't see all this ongoing fear and tension. So whereabouts in Mexico is this? Not asking for your street address, just the town or general area, if you prefer.

GigiB87
  3/28/2017 18:19 EST

I believe AOs approval rating, according to Gallup, hit a new low (personally, a new high point for me!) of 36%. May it keep descending, and pull down the ratings of legislators who support his destructive, dehumanizing policies.

giershift43
  3/28/2017 18:37 EST

I have no idea why it is that high.

richmcintyre
  3/28/2017 19:42 EST

'I haven't been down in Mexico lately, but hard to say it is as safe as it was 15 or 20/years ago. And odds are it won't get any better for a while."

Then why are you shooting your mouth off on an ex-pat forum, and pretending this is "your" thread? Every time I open a thread on this site, I am treated to your uneducated, never lived there (and apparently haven't visited in the last century) BS.

Why don't you give it a rest and try crossword puzzles?

richmcintyre
  3/28/2017 19:42 EST

'I haven't been down in Mexico lately, but hard to say it is as safe as it was 15 or 20/years ago. And odds are it won't get any better for a while."

Then why are you shooting your mouth off on an ex-pat forum, and pretending this is "your" thread? Every time I open a thread on this site, I am treated to your uneducated, never lived there (and apparently haven't visited in the last century) BS.

Why don't you give it a rest and try crossword puzzles?

MexJuan1
  3/28/2017 20:02 EST

I do live in Mexico. I visited 15-20 years ago many times also and, for the most part, it is safer now than it was then. So you, who haven't even been here seem to be the one who is "shooting his mouth off". And if it does become more dangerous or unsafe, it will be due to the mistake in the WH. so, crawl back into your little 36% hole, read and buy into, mostly false and uninformed Sate Dept. Travel Warnings and continue to support that abcess you call a president...

Rodrigo1974
  3/28/2017 20:09 EST

once again, it's trump did that, and trump is doing that. damn him, everyone writes on this thread. i'm no fan of trump and even supported jill stein but nobody dares to point out that the mexican government and its oligarchy have no reason to confront their 'problems' and issues. those mexicans who are not influencial and/or affluent have little choice but to try to escape, trump or no trump. opportunism will forever triumph as long as fatalism and escapism defeat any desire to confront problems in mexico, as opposed to running away from them!

Rodrigo1974
  3/28/2017 20:13 EST

nearly all of you are deeply convinced that governmental entities can solve all of our deep-rooted problems and such just isn't the case, either in mexico or in the u.s. dream on, guys!!!

Rodrigo1974
  3/28/2017 20:14 EST

nearly all of you are deeply convinced that governmental entities can solve all of our deep-rooted problems and such just isn't the case, either in mexico or in the u.s. dream on, guys!!!

nelsonokelmgmailcom
  3/28/2017 20:14 EST

I live in PV and feel totally safe. There are some petty thefts. I hear over and over of people losing their wallet and getting it back completely intact. They have a special tourist police force to help befudled visitors. Housing varies depending upon what you want to pay. I have never been hassled by the locals in the 3 1/2 years I have been here. I keep up on the news and know that I am much safer here than in MANY cities in the USA. I am loving Mexico and its generous hard working people. The culture is very different. That is what makes it so much fun.

GigiB87
  3/28/2017 21:10 EST

Why don't you grow up and tend to your own affairs? Too much to ask, I guess. Where do you live in Mexico,?

giershift43
  3/28/2017 21:12 EST

No one is asserting that government can solve all our problems, but an effect government can help provide opportunities for to facilitate people solving their problems. It is a false claim to say wanting good government means what is wanted is for it to solve all its peoples problems.

GigiB87
  3/28/2017 21:19 EST

Sorry, last post was directed to rchmcyntire 's (sp.?) clever suggestion.

GigiB87
  3/28/2017 23:00 EST

Rodrigo is correct about Mexico, of course. But aren't Trump's policies hurting the Mexican economy and a thus disproportionately impacting the poorest, which of course is why they may want to leave. No one I have read on this thread is suggesting government has all the answers. But in a complex society of 300,000 (US) or 180,000 ?(Mexico) it needs a greater role than Trumpites want for us. (Dismantling the EPA, really?) And if you tell me I can still drive anywhere I want in Mexico, camping on the beach or in the countryside, day or night, then, I will agree that Mexico is safer now than it ever was. I remember 10 years ago, more or less, the NY Times was calling Mexico a failed state, so I imagine things have improved since then at least. But don't try to lecture me about the right to speak about Mexico because I currently don't live there. That's a ridiculous, parochial argument. You can live in Mexico and know more about the US than a neighbor of mine in California who thought New Mexico was another country and Obama was a muslim. But some of you Trumpites (and even the occasional progressive, sorry to say) don't know more..
you just want to shut the rest of us up. Which is despicable.

GigiB87
  3/28/2017 23:06 EST

Sorry, needed to add 3 more zeros to Mex. and US pop. Hard to avoid mistakes writing in this little box.

giershift43
  3/29/2017 04:55 EST

This goal of dismantling our government and institutions plays into the hands of foreign interested to weaken America. I do not think this claim of giving the people freedom from health care and gutting education does anything but weaken America for enemies to control us.

GigiB87
  3/29/2017 10:42 EST

It certainly seems to directed to deconstructing the middle class even further, unless AO can make us better off by bringing American business back. Seems more likely to create a poorer, less educated (,well armed) electorate. Of course, I'd hate to be AO once they realize he is a snake oil salesman. Doubt if history will speak well of him
(I pray we have a history.)

GigiB87
  3/29/2017 11:05 EST

And now, of course, European scientists have come out staying the US will be acting against it's own interests by adopting AOs climate change plan..Duhhh! We need to stop this idiot.

Rodrigo1974
  3/29/2017 11:06 EST

Trump was unable to 'dismantle' obamacare, thank God. This is his first major failure. i'm not worried a bit. it's all downhill from here. deporting hard working undocumented family folk who keep the u.s.'s fruits, veggies, carwashes, and restaurant prices at an affordable level and keep our social security system, already in dire trouble, afloat, is just for sure. in reality, he wants these folks there so he can exploit them in his construction industry. the guy is a con artist and shouldn't even be taken seriously, with the likes of brooklyn senator chuck schumer and manhattan city counselwoman melissa mark viverito constantly monitoring him and opposing his every move.

giershift43
  3/29/2017 11:09 EST

The whole Trump
Addenda is created to make America fall further behind and less powerful. Easier for Russia to dominate.

giershift43
  3/29/2017 11:11 EST

If you the .S. to compete make college easier to attend to upgrade skills.

GigiB87
  3/29/2017 11:13 EST

Sorry, I should have said anti-climate change plan. Hope you are correct, Rodrigo, but cuts of EPA, dismantling of Justice Dept. , just announced reinvestigation of tackling Obamacare, proposed cuts of local programs such as aid to water companies in rural New Mexico. I guarantee you Schumet, Bernie, etc. etc. are very worried.

GigiB87
  3/29/2017 11:15 EST

Schumer, dammit! I hate my telefono!

MexJuan1
  3/29/2017 13:09 EST

"Exxon urges Trump to keep US in Paris climate accord".
This was the headline in today's Financial Times.
Seems strange that the largest OIL Company in the World sees validity in Climate Change matters and the "Idiot in Chief" doesn't??? Well, I guess, under normal circumstances it would. Under this situation he, constantly, comes down on the wrong side of what is intelligent, informed and right. That's because he is unintelligent, uninformed and wrong. In a word, incompetent.

DeniseLR
  3/29/2017 13:46 EST

Well, despite the bitching and moaning by some, I think this thread is doing a pretty good job, with many detours, of discussing the effects of..... etc. etc. Were all worried, even the ones that keep yelling at us to shut up, for one reason or another. We just need to keep hammering away at anyone considered influential in stopping this diseased avalanche {mixed metaphor?} of misguided policies. Don't know how to influence Mexican policies as a non citizen, but AO certainly has done much to influence them in the wrong direction, sadly.

giershift43
  3/29/2017 13:55 EST

Aside from those short comings, he is corrupt too.

giershift43
  3/29/2017 13:57 EST

States effected adversely by the dumb whited Wall, are making there concerns known. They need trade with Mexico.

GigiB87
  3/29/2017 19:13 EST

Yes, GS, New Mexico, even the conservative Republican Hispanic governor is concerned. Wild guesstimate, but I believe NM annual trade with Mexico is 1 billion +. And our state is in serious financial difficulties, so this is more important than ever.

MexJuan1
  3/29/2017 19:34 EST

Mexico can and will, very much, hurt the U.S. and many States by taking their business elsewhere. They ARE shopping! Immigrants are now going to Canada. American farmers in the West are having labor problems. One put an ad in the local paper and got NO, ZERO, NADA responses. But, the WH is panicking, using Nunes as a "lackey" to sabotage the House Intel investigation and blocking Sally Yates testimony. Spicer is ,totally, losing his cool daily. Looks like the Senate has two, actual, adults though to conduct a comprehensive and complete investigation. Between them and the FBI, they'll get to the truth, whatever it may be, and render Nunes and the House of Reps inconsequential. Not sure if Pence/Ryan will preserve NAFTA or not?

GigiB87
  3/30/2017 00:30 EST

So: unrelated to Mexico but not the internet. House of Rep voted (correct me if I'm wrong) 215 to 205 to allow sale of personal data by internet providers, including medical, personal, financial info. I suggest bombarding them with as much misinformation whenever feasible and possible. How does this help US citizens (unless you consider corporations citizens).

giershift43
  3/30/2017 07:01 EST

They did vote to not protect citizens over business

GigiB87
  3/30/2017 12:44 EST

Off topic again, but had argument with BF over Gross Domestic Products of countries. US (2016) and China were at the top. Interesting that Russia was 12, Brazil 8, Mexico 15, both down, probably due to decline in oil and gas prices. I believe, not 100% sure, Russia was 11, Mexico 12 the year before. B,F. observed. jokingly, that Brazil could become a nuclear and military force more easily than Russia, at least in terms of GDP. And Mexico wasn't far behind. I don't know, just found it interesting. Don't expect AO will push Mexico to militarize (not because he knows what he's doing), just makes one wonder how far Putin can push it before things collapse again.

MexJuan1
  3/30/2017 12:55 EST

Two articles I've read last night and this morning. Mexico sends Economic/Trade Contingency to China and is shopping Asia, Middle East, Central and S. America to remove itself from trade with U.S. If they make this happen, and I hope they do, it will have a huge impact on the U.S. being it's 3rd largest trade partner. 2nd article states Mexicans choosing Canada over U.S. to vacation. My spirits are buoyed by them "fighting back". Russia's economy has been declining for many years. One of the main reasons they did what they did in U.S. election and are doing what they're doing in Germany, France, The Netherlands Belgium,etc...

GigiB87
  3/30/2017 13:22 EST

Not trying to be contentious, but couldn't find any evidence of Russian long term (depends how you define long term, I guess) economic decline, although it has declined big time the last few years (Oil and Gas) prices and,
like everyone else a few years before (worldwide recession). Just found it interesting the great cold war enemy has a GDP about 1/15 of the US, and less than that of Brazil. What Mexico is doing makes smart economic sense. The point hopefully isn't payback, but to make the best economic and political decisions for Mexico. And that is to diversify its options.

MexJuan1
  3/30/2017 13:39 EST

I don't think the point of Mexico's actions are "payback" in any sense of the word. Defensive, yes. Otherwise, why wouldn't they have made these moves before? They honored the NAFTA treaty and once it was threatened were, somewhat, forced into defensive action. China, potentially, will be building cars in Mexico as per this article... If Mexico was "smart" they would raise the level of income and provide more opportunity to it's workers to maintain it's population.

Cozumeldeb
  3/30/2017 17:31 EST

IMO, Pence will go down with Trump ship, and who knows how deep Putin ties go, large % of GOP meet with Russian leaders..Senate is heating up on the first day..Trump is not smart enough and is too lazy to have done legwork..New Steele overview today in vanity Fair laid a lot out.

giershift43
  3/30/2017 17:42 EST

I hope but as we message, Trump is trying to turn charges about Russia is somehow Obama's fault.

worxs
  3/30/2017 18:25 EST

Let me see..
Russia reset by Hilary, Obama caught on open mike telling Russian that he will have a lot more ability to appease Russians after the election. Obama letting Hilary sell off 20% of US Uranium production for a 145Million Clinton Foundation contribution. Whoa.. not to mention Podesta's family involvement in Russian banking and their multi year Clinton relationship backed by Obama.

Lets see if the bike riding landscaper responds to this....

GigiB87
  3/30/2017 18:34 EST

Is that Obama communication to then Secty of State to sell off Uranium holdings for big time contribution to Clinton foundation able to be substantiated? Not saying you are wrong, at all. Just want some credible sources. Can you provide some?

MexJuan1
  3/30/2017 18:41 EST

Just keep watching the Senate Intel Investigation. And wait for the FBI's as well. I know that the Clinton's are crooked too but, the Uranium charge has been proven to be an out and out lie so, deflect all you like. It's getting very, very hot in the trump kitchen.

giershift43
  3/30/2017 18:41 EST

Never heard about it. I just figured Trump wanted the Senate investigators and the Congressional ones at the Whitehouse to discuss the investigation about Russia and find a way to turn it into blaming someone else.

worxs
  3/30/2017 18:42 EST

Let me see.. Russia reset by Hilary, Obama caught on open mike telling Russian that he will have a lot more ability to appease Russians after the election. Obama letting Hilary sell off 20% of US Uranium production for a 145Million Clinton Foundation contribution Cited in "Clinton Cash" by
PETER SCHWEIZER
Peter Schweizer is the President of the Government Accountability Institute and a best-selling author. Whoa.. not to mention Podesta's family involvement in Russian banking and their multi year Clinton relationship backed by Obama. Lets see if the bike riding landscaper responds to this....

GigiB87
  3/30/2017 18:44 EST

So, worxs, are you lying to us or, unknowingly spreading lies, or do you have some proof of your assertions?

MexJuan1
  3/30/2017 18:50 EST

Not to mention you're just, slightly, off subject. The, current, investigation concerns, already, proven and accepted Russian interference in the 2016, U.S. Presidential Election and the involvement of the trump campaign, trump surrogates and trump as to their cooperation and/or collusion. Selection of that subject is not working for the current administration. Not working for you either.

MexJuan1
  3/30/2017 18:55 EST

He's just another republicon conspiracy theorist attempting to deflect from the truth and the subject at hand. He's learned well from a very poor example and grabbing at straws as what, actually, happened becomes more evident.

GigiB87
  3/30/2017 18:58 EST

Doesn't seem to want to support his assertions, anyway. Loses all his credibility. Who is bicycle riding landscaper?

MexJuan1
  3/30/2017 19:04 EST

He was referring to me as he ran after his baseless, unproven, conspiratorial lies and charges. I guess that's what you do when you back a loser?

giershift43
  3/30/2017 19:24 EST

And that says what about Trump?? Once there was the Teapot dome scandal too. That is not the issue of the day and it does not change the investigation of Russian involvement in our Elections.

giershift43
  3/30/2017 19:26 EST

Today the investigation is about the Trump campaign. Changing the subject does not answer the question.

MexJuan1
  3/30/2017 19:26 EST

"worxs" like all the rest of them just throw spaghetti at the wall and hope that something sticks. He and his comments are irrelevant.

giershift43
  3/30/2017 19:29 EST

I agree with Mexjuan .

stevenlloyd
  3/30/2017 20:14 EST

Observing this whole Trump fiasco has been like watching a long drawn out train wreck with each car crashing into the one in front as it catches up – and it just never stops. I am so embarrassed for my American friends, neighbors and cousins (and to think we thought George Jr. was a sad joke). The only folk I am more embarrassed for are the ones who desperately try and continue to make excuses for this client – so woefully unqualified, unsuitable and unprepared to be president of one of the once greatest countries on the planet. So sad.

Cozumeldeb
  3/30/2017 20:20 EST

Total BS on Hillary and uranium story, disproven repeatedly...BTW, tonight according to Wall Street Journal, Michael Flynn said he will talk for criminal immunity..End is near for Trump & crew.

GigiB87
  3/30/2017 21:28 EST

You know what? You may not agree, but I like to try engaging some of these people and seeing what I can do to alter their viewpoint. Just my thing, maybe quixotic to you, and not yours. Maybe just vanity. Doubt all of them are subhuman. Also interested in the ' subject of the day,' whoever feels authorized to determine that. But continued watching of this train wreck isn't healthy (already have trouble sleeping and take one b.p.pill daily) and it certainly is easy to become a prisoner of the moment. Sorry, that's just my take on it. Goodnight!

Cozumeldeb
  3/30/2017 21:46 EST

Well stated..It is an embarrassment to all Americans that we allowed such a worthless man to our highest. High note, not for long.

MexJuan1
  3/31/2017 00:08 EST

No reason to apologize about how you feel. You have that right to attempt to "fix" things. I, of course, would disagree. There are subhumans among them. Who else would or could support those types of policy towards others? Some stupid, naive, misguided, desperate etc, but, I see no need in trying to alter their views at all. I see it as a deep or not so deep character flaw when someone follows or allows themselves to be effected by such an obvious miscreant. And I make no apologies for my observations. I see most, if not all, Politicians corrupt or criminal. Not to discount that there, probably, are some good ones among the fray. The bad ones prey on the type of ppl I've described. Fool them with false promises and rhetoric, lies. The ones who have ethics and morals left, thankfully, are going to save us this time. The legitimate media has not let us down either. They've taken a beating in this situation and have never waivered and will be vindicated in the end. Trump was and is so narcissistic and employed that trait to succeed in business where the players may not have been smart enough to overcome him. He thinks he's the "smartest guy in the room" which has turned out to be a mistake in this arena. He's out of his element in politics and they are smarter than him and unable to be bullied. The same can be said for the media. Ppl will start protecting themselves (Flynn seeking immunity) and running scared from Congress and the FBI. Making deals and talking. That's just the way things work for a criminal organization which we will all find out, this was. I feel no sympathy for treason or ppl that have supported the players. Especially when it's been this obvious... And I sleep very, very well!

blodg
  3/31/2017 07:09 EST

Only 93 more months to go!

DeniseLR
  3/31/2017 12:32 EST

Had a question for Juan. I know you mentioned that the Clinton's are crooked. You may very well be correct, I am just wondering what actions (other than serial philandering and lying to Congress by Bill 20 or so years ago, (which I personally didn't think was that egregious at the time but do think may have cost Gore the election - it was so close, just like this last one) you are referring to. I never liked her all that much, which is why I voted for Obama, but always thought she was bright, well informed and competent. So, seriously, what are you pointing to?

MexJuan1
  3/31/2017 12:55 EST

Your sentiments and feelings, pretty much, reflect mine concerning the Clinton's. And I agree with you on your assessment of Hillary. I think that Bill showed poor judgement in his "tarmack meeting" with AG Lynch and Hillary equally on her handling of the Private Server. She won the popular vote and I'm pretty sure that almost 70% of the population, currently, would rather have her in the WH now. The "White Men" who just hate blacks and women, of course, would not. Fyi, I do not include myself in that group.

MexJuan1
  3/31/2017 13:00 EST

In hind sight, I should not have said "crooked". I believe that they have made some poor choices in their activities and behavior. Bad choice of words on my part. I like the Clinton's, think Bill was a good President and feel as though Hillary would have been a quality, competent and qualified choice as well. Thanks for making me rethink my words and thoughts and correcting my position...

GigiB87
  3/31/2017 14:36 EST

Didn't say there were no subhumans among them ( or any group). Said they weren't all subhuman, and anyone who believes that is perpetrating a very sad and dangerous tradition. One (2, really) characteristics of a sociopath are an overwhelming narcissism and a permanent lack of empathy. They sleep very well too.

giershift43
  4/1/2017 17:00 EST

Agent orange for his hair

GigiB87
  4/2/2017 17:14 EST

If you look at what is happening in Venezuela today, well, it is the unlikely that could happen again in US (don't know enough about Mexican political history and infrastructure to comment) But 5 years ago I would have said the same about a tone deaf, narcissistic cerdo becoming..... Can't say the word! Starting to give as much $$ as I can to the Dems, though more of an independent. By the way, I was forced to watch FNews in the gym and his hair was looking a very bright yellow. Classy! (sarcasm)

GigiB87
  4/2/2017 17:21 EST

And, according to Amy Goodman and James Moynihan, your internet data now available to the highest bidder. We need to find out who is going to do this and, IMO, go elsewhere. My medical records are on line. Hope those are inviolate. Have to check.

MexJuan1
  4/2/2017 22:48 EST

I've never kept any records online. Nothing medical, banking, etc. Just use my phone for amusement and opinion. He's attacking the First Amendment now too so he can sue the media. Courts are suing him for inciting violence. He's created such a lovely World in which to live, hasn't he? Oh, and I read today that 401K Retirement Plans are going to become worthless because there's more being taken out than is going in. Baby Boomers and ppl panicking over everything that's being done to them... Proves one thing to me. The 401K System was nothing more than a Ponzi Scheme. So glad I took mine out 2 years ago!!!

giershift43
  4/3/2017 07:29 EST

There has been caution not to draw down too much 401K so it lasts. There are always negative articles and that little man with the grey cloud over his head. Cults having specific dates for the end of the world. Life has never been certain. Imagine those who survived the Great Depression and WWII.

MexJuan1
  4/3/2017 13:45 EST

I understand what you're saying. I'm just wanting ppl who are still "in" to be informed and careful. The article I read said a 100K policy could be worth only 10K if the downfall comes. That would be disastrous to most anyone. And don't be fooled by this "trump bump" in the Market either. It's, solely, motivated and machined by his super rich friends. His "job saving" policies, trade wars and total incompetence and lack of diplomacy will cause a major sell off at some, not too distant, point. The rich ppl will sell off to drive stock prices down to buy in again at low prices. The "every day" guy will just lose...

giershift43
  4/3/2017 16:25 EST

No investment is ever a sure thing. It helps to think a head to some extent. I try to err on the side of caution, but no risks no gain either. Often people tend to operate on the premise that whatever is going on will continue to go on as it has. We can scare ourselves into being immobilized. One reason I don't take the advice of investment planners is because I do not want anyone to blame but myself. Still I have bought bought rental property and invested in mutual funds. But I do it conservatively although I am politically and socially a progressive. I do think that the rich and powerful do create scenarios to take advantage of the rest os us. As was the set up when 2008 crashed and what the "we need to get government off the backs of business" allows they to cheat the unsuspecting.

MexJuan1
  4/3/2017 16:39 EST

OK. In that respect (2008) there's a sub prime commercial real estate loan bubble and a sub prime auto loan issue, both in the works and set to bubble over. That's not even mentioning the Japanese Real Estate market over reach that will be effective World Wide. We're back to unqualified persons buying cars and homes with no money down and ARMS (Adjustable Rate Mortgages) are a part of the home buying landscape again. With those elements in place and deregulation being at the forefront of this administrations policy, 2008 again, can't be far off. The devil is, always, in the details. Ppl must pay attention to the equation because it determines the result. It's, really, simple math that is inescapable.

MexJuan1
  4/3/2017 17:10 EST

In other words and more simpler terms "Greed, Bank and Corporate Crime are back in fashion" G.W. Bush's policies on steroids with an unethical, immoral person leading the way with far reaching effect.

giershift43
  4/3/2017 20:34 EST

I have heard that about car loans. Where in real estate is that happened? Malls are standing empty. Retail selling is going online. But what subprime real estate is going on?

MexJuan1
  4/3/2017 20:38 EST

It's commercial real estate. Malls, Strip Plazas, Brick and Mortar Storefronts etc...

MexJuan1
  4/3/2017 20:39 EST

It's commercial real estate. Malls, Strip Plazas, Brick and Mortar Storefronts etc...

giershift43
  4/3/2017 20:42 EST

I just reread your post commercial
Real estate that makes sense to me. So how can people's le protect themselves. I'm a small investor in rental homes. Due to 2008, there are a lot of renters and a need for residential rentals. I buy my cars cash. I'm afraid to be overextended.! It's not bad to buy a little gold to set aside just in case. I try to keep a diversified portfolio and tend to be overweighed in value stocks.

MexJuan1
  4/3/2017 20:53 EST

Sounds like you're doing OK. I have some rentals too. Divested my 401K 2 years ago when I retired and got out of the Stick Market when it reached 21,000. Every person has to do what's right for them and their, particular, economic situation. I'm no economic guru by any means. I just try to stay informed. I don't trust the Market AT ALL at this point and I, certainly, do not trust the current administration in any way, shape or form! We're supposed to "learn" from history and mistakes made. Not make them again less than 10 years later. That's just the arrogance of the "man who would be king".

giershift43
  4/3/2017 21:09 EST

If you pulled your money out of the stock market, where did you put it?

MexJuan1
  4/3/2017 21:26 EST

Bonds and Gold. And when the Market corrects (and I don't mean by 10 or 20% because, eventually when trump/russia is found out or his lies all come to pass and it crashes) if I'm still alive, I'll get back in. Otherwise it's in trust for my kids and granddaughter.

giershift43
  4/3/2017 21:34 EST

Do you hold gold or gold mutual funds. I have some balanced funds that are 60 to 40% bonds.

Ramzfan
  4/3/2017 23:07 EST

You know Juan, If I hadn't read so many of your liberal rants, I would tend to agree with you once in a while. I find though, that you are so anti-Trump that you can't see any of the good that the man does. If you're going to live here in Mexico and criticize what they're doing in the U.S., don't you think that you should try to see both sides...?

MexJuan1
  4/3/2017 23:30 EST

No! The words trump and good don't even belong in the same sentence...irregardless of liberalism or conservatism, he is the ultimate worst thing that could have ever happened to the U.S. and the World. If left there long enough, all will see that come to pass. Does that answer your question?

Ramzfan
  4/3/2017 23:39 EST

Sorry Juan, I disagree. I believe that he is trying to level the playing field between Mexico and the U. S. What he is requiring is the same set of laws that Mexico imposes on expats. Building the wall seems to be the only way the U.S. can slow the influx of illegals.

nelsonokelmgmailcom
  4/3/2017 23:42 EST

Ramzfan, Juan is totally correct. There is NO GOOD that T Rump does. He is a disaster to anyone who is not wealthy or a corporation. He is destroying vital government agencies that have important functions. His every act benefits the fossil fuel industry, big pharma, insurance companies, the NRA, the banks and--and--and!! He has done not ONE thing to benefit the people who put him in office, the middle class and the less prosperous. He is a total disaster. He and the ReThugLican party are gutting the democracy (?).

Ramzfan
  4/3/2017 23:55 EST

Not one thing...? How about the thousands of jobs that he's saved by keeping companies in the U.S? How about the billions of dollars that he's saved taxpayers by eliminating wasteful projects? Consider what he's doing about the Obamacare program that's costing people far more than they ever paid before. No, I think you have it wrong. He is trying to get people back working and off of the government dole.

MexJuan1
  4/4/2017 00:06 EST

You're entitled to your opinion and I to mine. You, obviously, believe the untruths promulgated by the right. All of which can be refuted by the actual truth. As far as Obamacare, it is NOT perfect but can be fixed. I guess that you agree with letting 14 to 24 million ppl being left uninsured, essential health provisions being taken away and the 50-64 aged population not being able to afford anything more than, possibly, catastrophic care? As well as the rich and wealthy getting a 380BILLION DOLLAR tax break in the offing? Not to mention the promise he made that EVERYONE would be insured, have better coverage and it would be cheaper... Swallow his lies, lose your soul.

MexJuan1
  4/4/2017 00:15 EST

And you must be talking about that wall that Mexico was, definitely, going to pay for? The one NOT covered item for item in the Budget Proposal that will fall on American tax payers... The list of lies is far reaching and well documented.

giershift43
  4/4/2017 07:38 EST

I don't see any good in Trump.

MexJuan1
  4/4/2017 08:05 EST

That's because you have a functioning brain, common sense and the ability to, actually, see an anomaly when you see one. On the other hand, if a person has a passion for someone who has disdain and hatred for ppl, likes criminals and arrogant, self indulgent, pathological liars who think they're above the law, enjoys mysogony, racism and xenophobia and can totally ignore incompetence and the pending danger it can cause, that type of person would, somehow, see "good" in this, so called, "man"? It's just a matter of good judgement vs bad...

giershift43
  4/4/2017 08:12 EST

Would one of these "liberal" bashers please define liberalism. It is not a dirty word that describes evil characteristics.
It has to do with being open to change. You apparently have accepted Fox alt right propaganda and no longer think for yourself. Try using facts instead of alternate facts that support a view based on lies.

giershift43
  4/4/2017 08:16 EST

How is Trump leveling the playing field? Seriously by insulting a trading partner. Do you think if U.S. employers didn't keep hiring them they would keep coming? Do you think that good factory jobs will really come back, when they are now done by robots and computers? Trump has factories in China. He isn't thinking about employing Americans. Look at what he does instead of what he says.

MexJuan1
  4/4/2017 08:18 EST

Here's a good example: He just got done inviting the president (dictator) of Egypt to the WH, who never should even be allowed in the country, let alone the WH and lauded him as "doing a great job". The "great job" he's done is to imprison all of his opposition and put the hammer down on his ppl. All under the underwriting of Saudi Arabia because Egypt is, virtually, broke without them. DJT has this penchant, even an admiration for dictators which, if he could get away with it in America, is what he would be. No morals, no ethics, no soul...

giershift43
  4/4/2017 08:18 EST

RAM,
The wall will not keep out illegal aliens. The cartel owns boats and planes. Also most illegals came here legally and overstayed visas. How will a wall fix that. But to hell with the facts, when you need a scapegoat to redirect the publics attention.

giershift43
  4/4/2017 08:22 EST

From today's headlines, "Blackwater founder held secret meeting to establish Trump-Putin back channel"E-

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The Boston Globe
Tweet Share 193 President Donald Trump.
OLIVIER DOULIERY /EPA

Trump is working to destroy the country to gain power for him and his family. Incredibly nepotistic and self serving.

giershift43
  4/4/2017 08:24 EST

TOP STORIES

Is Trump Pushing for an Imperial Presidency?
“I alone can fix it.” To Donald Trump’s supporters, his words at the Republican National Convention were a rallying cry. To his critics, they were a warning. Part 3 of the Times Editorial Board’s series of editorials on the Trump presidency assesses his “dangerously authoritarian vision of the presidency”: “What’s uniquely threatening about Trump’s approach … is how many fronts he’s opened in this struggle for power and the vehemence with which he seeks to undermine the institutions that don’t go along.”

MexJuan1
  4/4/2017 08:30 EST

I think "The Wall" is just a phallic symbol for DJT's ego. It is geographically impossible to build, as you say gier, will do little to nothing to "curb the tide" (technology would do a much better job but way, way over an idiot's head) and if built in total, highly doubtful, will cost AMERICAN TAXPAYERS, NOT MEXICO AS PROMISED, some 27 Billion dollars. I was just reading about the contractors on it this morning. Bids, proposals and a 30' Mock Up will cost 200-500K alone. Contractors are getting death threats and any Mexican Contractors bidding are being considered traitors.

giershift43
  4/4/2017 08:35 EST

Last night there was a T.V special on how American landholders will be forced to sell land on the border and a huge amount of money they will loose. It included the story of one farmer to whom this happened 10 years ago. They end of having their land behind the border wall although in the U.S. It has been a disaster for them. And the Wall did not stop the problem. Also the flow of immigrants to and from the Mexico and the U.S. is a net 0. That is as many immigrants leave and enter. But scapegoating them is great politics.

MexJuan1
  4/4/2017 08:39 EST

Just happens to be Betsy DeVos' brother. Another "coincidence" I suppose??? In the Seychelles. Middle of The Indian Ocean. A shade Clandestine... Here comes more "SMOKE"

giershift43
  4/4/2017 09:06 EST

no coincidence. pervasive corruption

giershift43
  4/4/2017 09:23 EST

Today:

ICE, CCSF arrests 4, seizes 1.6 tons of cocaine in Puerto Rico

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ICE HSI special agents, working jointly with officers of the Caribbean Corridor Strike Force (CCSF), arrested four men March 27 and seized a 9mm Glock pistol and 18 rounds of 9mm ammunition while attempting to smuggle 1.6 tons of cocaine. Full Story


How will the wall stop this. Misguided and expensive non-solution.

Ramzfan
  4/4/2017 09:40 EST

Sounds like ICE is already doing what Trump wanted them to do...way to go!

Ramzfan
  4/4/2017 09:44 EST

Sometimes we're so blinded by our pre-conceived notions about someone, that we can't see the good side of them.

giershift43
  4/4/2017 09:45 EST

They have been right along including under Obama. Subscribe to their page. The wall will take funds from where it works!!

giershift43
  4/4/2017 09:47 EST

Funny that is what I think your problem is. "liberals" are bad. Discount facts even create an alternate reality to support a larger lie.

Ramzfan
  4/4/2017 09:54 EST

Interesting..."it is not a dirty word describing evil characteristics", yet thousands of liberals rioted, turned over & burnt cars, looted stores, beat people up and refused to accept the election. They are STILL whining about it in the states. Was the other side happy when Obama won? No, but they didn't destroy other people because of it.

giershift43
  4/4/2017 10:02 EST

I'm a liberal, I haven't participated in a riot. Most haven't. Did they arrest rioters and have them declare a political conviction? If they riot, they are liberal?? really.

MexJuan1
  4/4/2017 10:09 EST

And isn't Puerto Rico part of the United States? Just asking...

Ramzfan
  4/4/2017 10:26 EST

Please Giershift...I'm not saying "YOU'RE a rioter". What I'm saying is that you didn't see this type of protest when Obama won. The reason being that most conservatives are adults and they know how to deal with life. Don't take things so personal.

giershift43
  4/4/2017 10:26 EST

Yes it is

Ramzfan
  4/4/2017 10:33 EST

Puerto Rico is a TERRITORY of the United States. I don't understand the question...

giershift43
  4/4/2017 10:54 EST

So they suggest what some moral
Superiority?? Or that his ties to Russia are ok. How does that change our current situation? I was a teenager in the 60's. Race riots took place because ... look at the causes and not just condemn the symptoms without thorough investigation. Why was that even relevant to the conversation?? It wasn't.

Ramzfan
  4/4/2017 10:54 EST

Giershift, the Wall is only a start. The come by boat, by air and by land. This will slow down the land invasion. You can't throw up your hands and say "oh, we can't stop them!" You have to begin somewhere.

Ramzfan
  4/4/2017 10:57 EST

Hahahahaha...and you laugh at others for believing Fake news...!

giershift43
  4/4/2017 11:02 EST

The wall is a distraction and the nature of the problem misrepresented. Taking funding from other areas that fight illegal immigration and weakening the efforts. Mexico and Latin American can are not the only place that undocumented immigrants are from. The majority comes legally but over stay their visas. Trump built factories in Asia and now points a Mexico. Deflecting scrutiny from where he makes his money and blaming others. It is a pattern that he continues.

Ramzfan
  4/4/2017 11:05 EST

I see nothing wrong with President Trumps alleged ties to Russia. I was a kid in the sixties too. It would be kind of nice to have Russia as our ally, wouldn't it...?

giershift43
  4/4/2017 11:06 EST

Specifically what fake news? And who is laughing. It's not funny. Again try to stick to the subject. I have subscribed to the ICE website news for years.

giershift43
  4/4/2017 11:09 EST

Mexjuan, this morning Kramer's advice was hold cash, but stay the course. I thought you
Might like reviewing it. I struggle with what to do as well.

Ramzfan
  4/4/2017 11:12 EST

The wall is a campaign promise and, unlike his predecessor, he is fulfilling ALL his promises. Of course there are other countries that provide illegals. He is trying his damndest to block them too, but the liberal judges are trying to create roadblocks. Give him time, he will succeed. The difference between Trump and others is that HE SUCCEEDS AT EVERYHING THAT HE ATTEMPTS TO DO... !

Cozumeldeb
  4/4/2017 11:33 EST

Ramzfan, Please Google pics of tea party folks hanging Obama, burning him in effigies, marching in the streets.. Corporations funded the tea party folks, now called the Freedom Caucuses, albeit just as crazy and obstruction minded for 8 yrs..How's your 401k compared to Bush yrs..

Cozumeldeb
  4/4/2017 11:33 EST

Ramzfan, Please Google pics of tea party folks hanging Obama, burning him in effigies, marching in the streets.. Corporations funded the tea party folks, now called the Freedom Caucuses, albeit just as crazy and obstruction minded for 8 yrs..How's your 401k compared to Bush yrs..

Cozumeldeb
  4/4/2017 11:34 EST

Ramzfan, Please Google pics of tea party folks hanging Obama, burning him in effigies, marching in the streets.. Corporations funded the tea party folks, now called the Freedom Caucuses, albeit just as crazy and obstruction minded for 8 yrs..How's your 401k compared to Bush yrs..

giershift43
  4/4/2017 11:37 EST

It is a huge expense without conclusive evidence it will do what is promised. I think his promise ignores sound analysis of the problem and ignores negative consequencess . Careful analysis should not be ideological. Again anyone who doesn't agree is labeled a bad liberal. And all
Liberals are wrong. This is propaganda not discourse.

giershift43
  4/4/2017 11:39 EST

Can you enumerate previously broken promises by liberals and please define how they are liberal? I remember "no new taxes promise."

Ramzfan
  4/4/2017 12:09 EST

Gier, when Obama put billions into the "green energy" projects that were supposedly going to be the wave of the future, it was a tremendous expense without conclusive evidence that it would work. It didn't...! The only ones who made money were Obama's cronies who took the money and folded the businesses. President Trump is trying to pay for this wall now, by charging anyone sending money to Mexico from the U.S. a 2% fee. I think it's a brilliant idea.

GigiB87
  4/4/2017 12:14 EST

The problem Ramzfan ( hope they start winning) is that it is difficult to find the good stuff, starting with his calling Obama a liar by claiming he was a natural born citizen and ending with his just saying 'What the hell?' on climate change and dismantling the EPA. Obama, supposedly soft on deportation, deported more undocs than Bush Jr. Reagan was the one that provided blanket amnesty, but $ not provided for the provisions to secure border properly. Now Trump is going much too far with it, as he does.with everything. Having businessmen run government may be great for their egos but we need statesman and policy people and humanists, IMO. By the way, what to you think Trump has done that's so great. Putting KA. Conway in as a spokesperson was. pretty entertaining, I admit.

GigiB87
  4/4/2017 12:27 EST

And, Ramzfan. why don't you start enumerating the green energy projects that failed, just saying that isn't enough. And now we have huge windmill farms in NM. Ever heard of venture capital? All projects arent expected to succeed, although we hope they do. And have you seen that huge, and I mean huge, solar energy collector on the edge of the Mojave desert.. Things are changing,,

Ramzfan
  4/4/2017 12:31 EST

Let's see...how about "You can keep your doctor and your existing insurance if you want."...?

Ramzfan
  4/4/2017 12:31 EST

Let's see...how about "You can keep your doctor and your existing insurance if you want."...?

Ramzfan
  4/4/2017 12:38 EST

Let's see...how about "You can keep your doctor and your existing insurance if you want."...?

giershift43
  4/4/2017 12:39 EST

AND all will get health care coverage and it will be great...
has been changed to access to insurance and still not cost less...

giershift43
  4/4/2017 12:44 EST

From the public response at the idea of repeal, it still helped a lot of people.
No it did not work out as planned, but it also did not have the supported it needed and was undermined by many governors.

MexJuan1
  4/4/2017 12:52 EST

Most major cooperations are AGAINST his lack of renewable energy policies and his non EPA head of the EPA. Even EXXON MOBILE has come out against it because that are saving so much money. he is abandoning Environmental Protection Policies to "save" Coal jobs that are not there any more and the Steel Industry that he cannot bring back. he used steel from China to build his own bldgs! He's a bald faced liar and ppl like you just "believe" his lies. He claims that the Dakota Pipeline will create 28,000 jobs initially. In the speech I'm watching right now, the claim jumped to 42,000! The State Dept., his own State Dept. has said that it will create between 28 and 50 sustainable jobs. He lies, you believe it. A very sad equation...

Ramzfan
  4/4/2017 13:07 EST

Green energy failed Obama projects: let's begin with Solyndra, Evergreen Solar, Beacon Power, Sun Power, etc, etc. There were BILLIONS OF DOLLARS lost with these catastrophes, but the libs just shrugged them off as the cost of trying to do something new. The difference today is, we have a President that actually knows how to build things and knows how to invest money.

giershift43
  4/4/2017 13:17 EST

I am sure there have been promises by candidates throughout history that never came to fruition. But the idea that it is the exclusive domain of a specific party or even subgroup is faulty on its face and not productive. At some point who ever is in power needs to be evaluated by his own actions and results and not justify failure by redirecting us to the imperfections of others. Time to quit padding the buck as an excuse to not take responsibility.

Cozumeldeb
  4/4/2017 13:20 EST

Malarkey Ramzfan, fact check your comments, on fact check site, not Fox, 18% accuracy rate. Fact check.org took Romney to school on his $90 billion claim about Obama's solar/green investments..Do u live in MX?

giershift43
  4/4/2017 13:21 EST

And trump is no longer running against Hillary nor Obama (you know the man he said was Kenyon which was a lie. He then tried to blame Hillary for his promoting a lie. )

MexJuan1
  4/4/2017 13:22 EST

Yes he does. His process;: Rip off subs by not paying them. Use undocumented immigrants as labor. Use foreign products. Destroy the environment (Watch the documentary, You've Been Trumped about his Golf Course in Scotland) he doesn't care about you or anyone else. Only himself. he tells you what you want to hear them does what he wants for him and his wealthy friends who, mostly, don't like him either. (Read NYT OP-ED "TICKET TO HELL") Educate yourself man. Don't just believe...

Cozumeldeb
  4/4/2017 13:29 EST

Malarkey Ramzfan, fact check your comments, on fact check site, not Fox, 18% accuracy rate. Fact check.org took Romney to school on his $90 billion claim about Obama's solar/green investments..Do u live in MX?

MexJuan1
  4/4/2017 13:32 EST

You're expecting waaaaay too much I'm afraid deb. "They" just BELIEVE. FACTS DO NOT MATTER TO THEM...

Ramzfan
  4/4/2017 13:37 EST

That is EXACTLY what Donald Trump is doing. Taking responsibility & draining the swamp of those who have made false promises in the past! It won't be easy with all of the naysayers that oppose him, but he's only been in office for 2 1/2 months...give him a chance.

Ramzfan
  4/4/2017 13:43 EST

Sorry Gier, but I'm one who still believes that it wasn't a lie. I will be happy to admit I was wrong if it's ever proven that he was really born in the U.S., but now that they are finding that his birth certificate was forged and his brother came out with his Kenyan birth certificate, I am a long way from admitting defeat.

MexJuan1
  4/4/2017 14:00 EST

Now, I know you're delusional. He filled the swamp within the swamp with billionaires and Goldman Sachs! Man, you're just dumb!!! So, when he's done throwing up all of his smoke screens on his involvement with Russia. His ever entangled web of Page, Manafort, Sessions (who should already be in jail for perjury) Stone, Flynn (who is ready to save his ass by giving him up) DeVoss' brother now, his "lackey" Nunes et al and the "adults in the room" send him and all the other swamp lizards packing, I'll be glad to talk with you. And, if he's exonerated well, shame on me. I doubt the latter because if he was the True American he, you and all the other believers say he is, he would want to get to the bottom of this issue. But, as we all know, he just wants to deflect from it with lies and false accusations proven by the "adults", which is making him the ineffective governing and legislative president he is. Failed "Travel" (Muslim) Ban, failed Health Care (really a huge tax break for the rich) Plan, ridiculous Budget Proposal that will fail (we all know he wants WAR) no Tax Reform due to failed AHCA and on and on. So, after that ridiculous and uneducated comment about him "draining the swamp" I now know that you're just a "lackey" too and have no idea about that which you are saying so, bye...

giershift43
  4/4/2017 14:06 EST

I see no evidence of either, just nepotism and self serving policies.

giershift43
  4/4/2017 14:09 EST

Rhetoric is not policy nor action, more redirection and fabrication without evidence in context of a history of lies.

giershift43
  4/4/2017 14:12 EST

Not much can be said to that. Delusional is how it impresses me. Bizarre belief against all factual evidence. No point in confusing you with the facts.

Ramzfan
  4/4/2017 16:32 EST

John, haters like you are hardly worth my time...

Ramzfan
  4/4/2017 16:35 EST

Lies? What lies exactly...?

giershift43
  4/4/2017 16:48 EST

I don't argue with a persons delusions. Seriously it just makes them
More adamant.

Ramzfan
  4/4/2017 16:54 EST

I agree.

Ramzfan
  4/4/2017 17:00 EST

The truth is, Gier, I kind of like you & I enjoy reading your opinions. You're not like most liberals who are not happy unless they're calling you names. At least you converse with a. decent vocabulary and grouping of good topics.

GigiB87
  4/4/2017 18:08 EST

Ramzfan, I was willing to listen to you until you really put your foot up your rear with the Obama birth certificate comment. Now I am convinced you are either stupid, a liar,or both. And a real hater, the sneaky kind who pretends to be something he is not so that people will listen. I don't hate you, just choose to ignore you (no big loss for you I'm sure) because you are either too stupid or ignorant to really talk policy or, more likely, too dishonest.

giershift43
  4/4/2017 18:24 EST

Gigi is basically correct. Delusional disorder has crossed my mind as a nonjudgmental assessment.

giershift43
  4/4/2017 21:33 EST

There is prejudice in your comment . I don't know what you have been taught or believe a liberal is, but the idea that it means something uneducated and dishonest is a recent invention created by those who have an adgenda that includes repeating discounting opinions and information by labeling it liberal. This label suggests you should not believe what is presented.

Cozumeldeb
  4/5/2017 07:56 EST

Draining the swamp? At last count he has 8 Goldman Sachs swamp monsters in his cabinet, and u think he cares about you? Bizarre thinking..

Cozumeldeb
  4/5/2017 07:56 EST

Draining the swamp? At last count he has 8 Goldman Sachs swamp monsters in his cabinet, and u think he cares about you? Bizarre thinking..

Cozumeldeb
  4/5/2017 08:01 EST

The core of your argument is wrong. His mother was an American citizen, game over. Racist hate will hurt you..Why would u want to live in MX? Your hero has targeted MX with lies.

Ramzfan
  4/5/2017 10:33 EST

Deb, what makes someone a swamp monster? The fact that they make a good living? Being rich...? People with a good education and a good job are not monsters. Unbeknownst to most liberals, they are the best people to help get us out of this mess we're in.

nelsonokelmgmailcom
  4/5/2017 10:37 EST

Ramzfan you are suffering from recto cranial insertion!!!

giershift43
  4/5/2017 10:56 EST

Again you make these statements about what liberals thinks and believe. I think you are remarkable prejudiced. You do not seem to even know what a liberal is . The ties to benefit Wall St were what has often been sited as being part of the swamp. How do you define the swamp??

giershift43
  4/5/2017 11:00 EST

She is devoid of critical thinking and a lot of circular thinking. If you do not agree with her she can dismiss you as you are a liberal and that means incorrect on the face of the argument. More like lack of an argument. Sound like Fox new brainwashing. Keep saying it and repeat it. Get others to repeat it and it makes it true. False premise and no facts.

Ramzfan
  4/5/2017 11:03 EST

Maybe Nelson, but but I'm not suffering from the notion that people who make a lot of money are evil. Success is the backbone of America and those that can't see that, or don't believe that are either fools or liberals. Wait, is there a difference...? Lol

GigiB87
  4/5/2017 11:10 EST

Es verdad, nelson. Y es un milagro que ya continua a decir nada, con tanta discapacidad.

giershift43
  4/5/2017 11:19 EST

Nelson? Is this a reference I'm not understanding?

GigiB87
  4/5/2017 11:28 EST

nelson made the physically difficult if not impossible suggestion a few posts back, amiga.

nelsonokelmgmailcom
  4/5/2017 11:45 EST

Sigue vomitando el material que rodea su cabeza. Muy oscuro y no es un lugar agradable para ser!

nelsonokelmgmailcom
  4/5/2017 11:46 EST

Sigue vomitando el material que rodea su cabeza. Muy oscuro y no es un lugar agradable para ser!

giershift43
  4/5/2017 12:10 EST

Oh now I get it. I swear I was looking up historical references online. Nelson Mandela.
Admiral Nelson, LOL

giershift43
  4/5/2017 12:11 EST

You guys will motivate me to learn Spanish.!

Ramzfan
  4/5/2017 12:14 EST

Sorry, too much trouble to translate.

nelsonokelmgmailcom
  4/5/2017 12:18 EST

You missed Nelson Rockefeller

giershift43
  4/5/2017 12:20 EST

News of the day:President Donald Trump's initial presidential memorandum placing Bannon on the NSC raised eyebrows by giving Bannon a permanent spot on the council while excluding the director of national intelligence and the joint chiefs of staff from meetings that did not cover issues pertaining to their roles.

According to reports at the time, Trump didn't even realize he was signing a memorandum that gave Bannon that role.

Trump's National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster — who replaced Mike Flynn — had been weighing a change to the NSC structure since he ascended to the role.

And multiple reports said Bannon was only given that role to police Flynn — and was no longer needed as a permanent NSC member after Flynn resigned in February

Trump didn't know what he was signing!!!

Ramzfan
  4/5/2017 12:26 EST

You know Gier, anybody can make up disparaging news and post it. Without a name of where it comes from, it's just more FAKE NEWS.

giershift43
  4/5/2017 12:30 EST

You are correct. Thank you

Cozumeldeb
  4/5/2017 13:08 EST

I certainly do not think rich people are bad, usually well educated. Yet folks like you trashed Hillary for Goldman Sachs speeches..6 of Trump nominees lied during confirmation process, which is against the law, all confirmed with next to ZERO experience.

nelsonokelmgmailcom
  4/5/2017 13:27 EST

Cozumeldeb There are some highly principled wealthy! Bill Gates, Paul Allen, George Soros, Michael Bloomberg, Raymond Perelman, Pierre Omidyar, Warren Buffett and others. They are concerned for others. Then there are the Waltons, Kochs and others are greedy selfish creeps who will NEVER accept that they will have enough wealth. They will screw all others to get more. These groups can be identified as Democrats and conservatives respectively.

GigiB87
  4/5/2017 14:28 EST

Well, AOs approval rating down to 35%. Hopefully soon to be in the 20s. Maybe then more in Congress will get a clue (just a hopeless optimist, I guess).

giershift43
  4/5/2017 14:48 EST

Today he defended O'Reilly"s against sex harassment allegations. LOL.

nelsonokelmgmailcom
  4/5/2017 14:51 EST

Birds of a feather flock together!

GigiB87
  4/5/2017 14:52 EST

Good God,! What an absolute and utter embrassment and piece of... well, fill in the blanks.

giershift43
  4/5/2017 15:07 EST

MexJuan, I think about this stuff a lot. Why did you decide to move into bonds?

With interest rates due to rise that mean bond prices will come down. I was thinking stocks were less risky. I don't pretend to understand it all, but I try to...

GigiB87
  4/5/2017 15:14 EST

Bond prices may fluctuate with interest rate, but you are guaranteed a certain return, aren't you, once purchased? And some are tax free. Anyway, sorry to butt in. Interesting that bond market is many times larger than stock market, but Dow gets all the attention. Less sexy but more stable, perhaps. Gold, however, a lot of 'experts' just see as another commodity.

MexJuan1
  4/5/2017 15:42 EST

Safety. I have cash put back too. Rental properties and SS income to pay bills. I have no faith in this false Market and fake president. he promised 3-4% GDP and last month's (with all the jimmied job growth most left over from Obama's Policies and all the money he, supposedly, saved the country) GDP was 1.6%. Industry is ignoring his move towards coal because they're saving so much money on renewable energy and Natural Gas. he will not be able to bring steel back either so, once he's abolished all of the last administrations policies that have been working, albeit, at a slower rate and fails to deliver on an unsustainable growth of 3-4% GDP, along with his other failed policies and lies, I believe, as do many economic experts (from "silly" institutions like Harvard) that the bottom will fall out of, what is already based on supposition, a false Market. There is, currently, an assault on 401K and Retirement Plans. I agree with you and feel that, if he remains where he is, that interest rates will go much higher but I, also, feel that, due to deregulation of Wall Street and Banking (remember "W" and 2008?) that greed, corporate and banking crime will return again. Let's face it, DJT makes "W" look like a great president and look what happened with his deregulation and the only option that DJT will, eventually, have is the same one "W" had. WAR. If they can, somehow, get him out, which we all know is very difficult, I think, even then, the chaos will effect the Market dramatically so, I'm just being safe as I DO NOT TRUST THESE PPL AT ALL! Did you notice the Market was up almost 200 pts. today and it's closing down?

giershift43
  4/5/2017 15:49 EST

All markets eventually changed me down. It's just a matter of when. I have some Roth money I could take out, but it's hard to give it up too. I took some money up last fall from health care mutual funds and paid off a rental. But I still have 4 mortgages. I'm 67 and get social security as well another public pension. It's hard to trust any of our institutions as they are under attack .

MexJuan1
  4/5/2017 15:56 EST

Just be careful and stay informed. Read fact based articles that you feel are pertinent to your situation. The Market had based a lot of this "trump bump" on Tax Reform. The last time Tax Reform was passed, 1986,it took R.R. two (2) years to do. Do you have faith that this joker can do any better? One of the reasons there was such a sell off today was because Paul Ryan said that Tax Reform "is a long way off. " And you're right. Institutions (and ppl) under attack with more to come. Me, I like to sleep at night! ;-)

giershift43
  4/5/2017 16:04 EST

Yes I did see that the market was high and ended low. I think about when to sell a chunk and ask my husband. But he always leaves it up to me. I have thought about pulling out money to buy a house in chapala. I struggle and don't know what to do. I'm sure after the way the market went up, profit takers will or have moved in.

MexJuan1
  4/5/2017 16:06 EST

Very, uneasy times. No doubt.

giershift43
  4/5/2017 16:10 EST

I agree with you on Trump and Ryan and deregulation leads to speculation and crashes. Deregulation led us to 2008 and will do it again. I even started buying a little gold here and there in fear of a complete collapse to try to reduce my fears.

Ramzfan
  4/6/2017 09:41 EST

Six of Trumps nominees lied...? Which ones? What were the lies?

giershift43
  4/6/2017 09:52 EST

Flynn is the top of the list.

Ramzfan
  4/6/2017 09:54 EST

O'Reilly never made sexual harassment remarks...talk about liberal B.S.!

giershift43
  4/6/2017 10:09 EST

I don't know why so many want to lie about Trump. Today:‘CBS News has learned that U.S. investigators are looking into whether Trump campaign representatives had a role in helping Russian intelligence as it carried out cyberattacks on the Democratic National Committee and other political targets in March 2016.’

Again being liberal only means one is lying when you believe Fox propaganda. You are a true believer. right or wrong nothing touches your deep seated beliefs. Blames the press, Blame Obama and Blame liberals. I clearly do not agree with you. I am proud to be a liberal who likes education and finding facts and seeking social justice. Not "alternate fact" We are all Bowling Green... And there never was a Bowling Green massacre for liar number 2.

Cozumeldeb
  4/6/2017 10:19 EST

AG Sessions lied in hearings saying no contacts with Russians.
Ed Sec DeVos on anti LGBT rights.
Stephen Munchin, foreclosure King, on "robo" signing of home foreclosure docs illegally.
SOS Rex Tillerson, lied about lobbying for Russia, to get Russian sanctions lifted.
HHS Sec Tom Price, buying medical stocks and promoting same stocks illegally.
EPA Scott Pruitt, claimed never used private server when in office, he did and showed he was in constant contact with Big Oil/Koch Bros doing their bidding.
Source: www.propublica.org, Google and many sources available.

Ramzfan
  4/6/2017 10:26 EST

Thanks Deb, I'll do some research on those.

MexJuan1
  4/6/2017 13:07 EST

Here are some things on which you don't have to check sources...
Sessions: Recused from investigation of Campaign's involvement with Russia. Flynn: Fired for lying. Now seeking immunity? Bannon: Removed from NSC seat (and threatening to quit, take his ball from the "playground" and go home) FBI/NSA announcing investigation into Trump Campaign collusion with Russia. FBI adding resources and agents to investigation. Wiretapping "tweet" Claim debunked by FBI/NSA, high ranking Republicans and all other Intelligence Agencies. Nunes: Recused from House Intel investigation and under investigation by House Ethics Committee for revealing Classified Information. DHS Secy. saying "The Wall" will NOT be built as promised. "Geographically impossible" AHCA Bill withdrawn before embarrassing loss in The House. AHCA 2 headed for similar fate. All, indisputable, FACTS. And there is so much more. "And the beat goes on... "

giershift43
  4/6/2017 13:33 EST

And the endless lies of AO and redirection to create a distraction from important issues. His love of Putin who supports Assad and Assad who murders children. AO now tries to take credit for Obama's accomplishments with the economy. The nepotism alone is troubling.!! A man who blames China for taking jobs away as he has factories there?? Give me a break. "all liberal lies." No, but if you don't like the facts you call it a liberal bias. Facts are not biased. I still want to see his tax returns. IRS says being audited is no reason not to show them, but he stands there and says , "only I can make America Great.," Great for who the oligarchs.

giershift43
  4/6/2017 13:51 EST

Trump shirts were made in China, Bangladesh, Honduras and Vietnam. PolitiFact Virginia found some Trump sport coats made in India. The Clinton campaign pointed to import data from 2007 that showed a Trump men’s shirt shipment marked as made in South Korea. He wasn't caring about the American people than. No reason to believe he does now.

MexJuan1
  4/6/2017 13:57 EST

Well, that's because, he doesn't, never did and never will. DJT cares about DJT, that's it. There are supporters of his that know that now and have spat out the Kool Aid. The die hards who have "swallowed" it completely will just go down with the ship it seems? Why? Who knows?

GigiB87
  4/6/2017 14:28 EST

Didn't one of them deny speaking to the Russian ambassador during the campaign.? Truthfully, I just don't obsess on the day to day stuff. There are so many investigations going on right now. I can assure you many Republicans hate his guts (McCain/dumb to get caught, helittle Mario, Lyin' Ted, mocked Jeb Bush, etc.etc.) I sort of get his appeal to people left behind but many of us in both patties are dumbfounded that people actually believe many of the things

GigiB87
  4/6/2017 14:39 EST

Damn thing cut me off . That actually believe the things he says that are at best just wrong, at worst flat out bold faced malicious lies. And the problem is he is onlyba populist president because he says he is. I would love to see any of his actual policies that would help those of us that have worked all our lives. I suppose you could argue that deporting undocs might provide better paying jobs for citizens, but I'm not so sure of that. Destroying unions cutting healthcare, demolishing the EPA, sweeping firings at justice dept. None of these things are going to help us find good jobs, or protect us when our child falls ill,, or keep big business from making us sick when it pollutes our air and water. Many seem to think Trump is such a dumpster fire Pence with be our president within the.year.??!!

GigiB87
  4/6/2017 14:53 EST

Sorry, I missed all the much more thorough responses. Just woke up to Ramzfan question. Scenario changing daily, but I have faith that enough voters will finally get it. Dems are far from perfect, and many problems and scandals in my state. But a lot of people are fed up with the good old boy network and will figure out that the myth that unfettered capitalism is the rising tide that floats all boats is jusy that, a myth. (Wonder if any other threads at EE have over 700 posts?)

MexJuan1
  4/6/2017 15:04 EST

It's the most pressing, disturbing issue in the World! Including Mexico. It deserves all of the attention and exposure that it gets and can receive. The ambitious discrediting that he and his supporters engage in is to deflect attention and attempt to make "us" look like complainers who need to go away. A bully wants ppl to keep quiet and fears exposure more than anything else. The "New Normal", the status quo is, highly, unacceptable and no one, the legitimate media, Democrats, Liberals, even some Republicans, will shut up and let it be... Not if it takes 7Mil posts!

giershift43
  4/6/2017 15:28 EST

Yeah liberal just make up stuff and get women to make false charges. The liberals are so powerful they can get people to lie like that.

giershift43
  4/6/2017 16:23 EST

Gigi, I agree. It is awful.

Ramzfan
  4/6/2017 16:31 EST

Juan, you sound like a bitter, bitter man. To judge someone without being able to see what they can do, is the sign of somebody who is very insecure, or worse yet, a liberal. This man has been extremely successful in everything he's done. Why would you doubt him in the presidency?

Cozumeldeb
  4/6/2017 16:47 EST

Ramzfan, turn Fox off, Trump has been a con man for decades, screwing workers, small business people by not paying them, forcing lawsuits that a little guy can't begin to out last his lawyers, Trump U fraud, pussy grabbing assualt tape, rape allegations of underage girls he brought from Eastern Countries to work at his "modeling" agency, ignoring facts that Trump is a liar, cheat + thief..Not to mention Russia owning Trump.

Cozumeldeb
  4/6/2017 16:47 EST

Ramzfan, turn Fox off, Trump has been a con man for decades, screwing workers, small business people by not paying them, forcing lawsuits that a little guy can't begin to out last his lawyers, Trump U fraud, pussy grabbing assualt tape, rape allegations of underage girls he brought from Eastern Countries to work at his "modeling" agency, ignoring facts that Trump is a liar, cheat + thief..Not to mention Russia owning Trump.

RVGRINGO
  4/6/2017 16:49 EST

Actually, he would probably have been more successful if he had just put his father‘s millions in mutual funds. But, if you have millions that you inherited, you can attract talent and fire those who are not “yes men“, and hope the rest don‘t jump ship; which is what is starting to happen now.
But, he did marry an attractive model from Slovenia, where the US government is now buying statin drugs, instead of from Wisconsin, to give to veterans & others. The Slovenian company that makes them recently sold a resort hotel to an “undisclosed buyer“.
Why am I suspicious of this liar?

MexJuan1
  4/6/2017 16:53 EST

Don't confuse this guy with truths and facts guys. He's incapable of that type of comprehension. Attack me all you like. You don't know me and it won't change a thing. You've learned well from your "Sensai" grasshopper... ;-)

giershift43
  4/6/2017 17:37 EST

Funny I think MexJuan has a good understanding of the political situation. He does not sound bitter to me.
AO is now at a 35% approval rating.

giershift43
  4/6/2017 17:44 EST

Mexjuan,
Have you seen that Dimon is giving out warnings for the economy.

Mine went up so much recently, that it makes me thing I should pull some money out on general principles.

giershift43
  4/6/2017 18:35 EST

Hey but tell everyone he is the best and will save you. Amazingly stupid. Great people don't need to brag and can stand on their accomplishments. AO is a con man.

GigiB87
  4/6/2017 18:50 EST

Personally, the guy I really respect and would listen to about the economy (not that I personally have any $$ to invest, FYI) is Paul Krugman, who is nobel prize winning economist and writes column for NY Times. Is he always right? Probably not,.is anyone???!!! But regarding the economy he is smarter and more knowledgeable than almost. Do conservative U of Chicago types make some good points as well at times, of course. But many of Milton Friedman's ideas (another Nobel Prize winner I believe), perhaps the leader of the group, have been tossed aside by the new Right as too liberal, astonishingly. Strange days indeed.

Ramzfan
  4/6/2017 20:04 EST

Gier...who is AO...? Is that A--hole Obama...?

GigiB87
  4/6/2017 20:06 EST

Nope, we're referring to your momma!

Ramzfan
  4/6/2017 20:08 EST

CozumelDeb...can I have some of what you're smoking...?

giershift43
  4/6/2017 20:17 EST

Agent Orange in regard to his hair. You know the guy who thinks if you are rich you can grab a women by her genitals. AS in no gentleman and no integrity.

I had hoped the Chinese President would grab Melania by hers and say he thought it was the custom.

giershift43
  4/6/2017 20:39 EST

Cozumeldeb, I agree completely

giershift43
  4/6/2017 21:38 EST

I agree. Unfettered capitalism is a theory and not a fact. They teach it in school like many other theories. Competition may work well in manufacturing but not services especially health insurance, education and prisons. It breeds corruption in those systems

Ramzfan
  4/7/2017 12:43 EST

Hey Juan, what Trump did last night kind of blows your theory that " he only cares about himself", doesn't it...?

nelsonokelmgmailcom
  4/7/2017 12:55 EST

Ramzfan-- No it does not blow Juans theory. T Rump was just trying to bolster his sagging popularity and make himself look like a "tough guy" who knows what he is doing. Not too many years ago he came out stating that the USA should stay out of Syria. Rump does not know what he believes. He has switched sides more often than the Staten Island Ferry.

nelsonokelmgmailcom
  4/7/2017 12:55 EST

Ramzfan-- No it does not blow Juans theory. T Rump was just trying to bolster his sagging popularity and make himself look like a "tough guy" who knows what he is doing. Not too many years ago he came out stating that the USA should stay out of Syria. Rump does not know what he believes. He has switched sides more often than the Staten Island Ferry.

Ramzfan
  4/7/2017 12:56 EST

Steven Lloyd...I just had to comment on your post from 2/11...my wife and I were also very concerned leading up to the election. We had considered both Mexico & Ecuador as possible havens. Then SURPRISE! Trump won and all is great again in America! I can't wait to see the changes he makes to the previous administration's policies...!

MexJuan1
  4/7/2017 12:57 EST

"AMERICA FIRST". Just another broken promise proving nothing. Done illegally in keeping with everything else he does and doing very little other than to be a precursor to Wars to come from Iran and N. Korea. Highly ineffective as only 23 of the 59 Tomahawks, actually hit the base. Great expenditure of 30+ million dollars! No damage to runways, just some infrastructure. Peacocking. That's all it was...

giershift43
  4/7/2017 13:05 EST

Not for me. He has a lot of heat on him about the Russians, this is a ready made way to distract. I do not seem him as doing anything that does not promote himself first. I just hope it was the right way to handle it, for all our sakes.
I have been a mental health clinician for a long time. Personality disorders like Trump especially when they are ego syntonic. That is support how he thinks things should be are not going to change.

giershift43
  4/7/2017 13:08 EST

like what taking health insurance away from many and tax breaks to the rich while gutting public education and cutting funding for medical research. I do not see that as making America Great.

Ramzfan
  4/7/2017 13:09 EST

No heat...this is Russian saber-rattling at best. The whole world is proud of DJT and America right now.

giershift43
  4/7/2017 13:09 EST

Wasting taxpayer money on supporting his wife in one place and playing golf in Florida every weekend. He could care less about the rest of us.

giershift43
  4/7/2017 13:18 EST

0-to-strike in 6 days: Trump's snap decision on Syria should worry US
© Getty
Things escalated fast. Last Friday, key administration officials UN Ambassador Nikki Haley and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson publicly acknowledged that they would no longer seek to oppose the Assad regime. On Thursday evening, the Trump administration fired 59 Tomahawk missiles at a Syrian airfield in response to the Assad regime’s use of chemical weapons on civilians.

Whether or not you agreed with this specific decision, the complete reversal — in only six days — of the Trump administration’s policy on Syria should worry anyone who cares about the future of U.S. foreign policy.

giershift43
  4/7/2017 13:20 EST

Funny Trump winning made me decide that I need to leave. Applications to Canada have just blown up.

At my age, Mexico is a better bet.

giershift43
  4/7/2017 13:24 EST

"America First" is a slogan, not a policy, not a plan and not a strategy. Rah Rah and then what.

worxs
  4/7/2017 14:13 EST

Typical for the 4 amigos- bicycle riding landscaper, pampered Deb from Coz - , Gear shift and goof ball. LOL They rarely have a good idea between them.

Ramzfan
  4/7/2017 14:14 EST

That's the way Gier...always look for the negatives...!

Ramzfan
  4/7/2017 14:20 EST

No longer opposing a particular regime has noting to do with opposing mass genocide and the use of chemical weapons. It doesn't matter if it's Canada or Britain...if you needlessly slaughter your own people with chemical weapons, that endangers the whole world...!
Is hatred for Trump your only natural feeling...?

Ramzfan
  4/7/2017 14:23 EST

Hahahahaha...that's good, Worxs...!

Ramzfan
  4/7/2017 14:23 EST

Hahahahaha...that's good, Worxs...!

Cozumeldeb
  4/7/2017 14:43 EST

Your limited ability to react to news is stunning..Keep blaming others for your low IQ.

Cozumeldeb
  4/7/2017 14:46 EST

WW3 is a plus? You + worx are delusional.

MexJuan1
  4/7/2017 14:47 EST

I, personally, have no hatred for anyone and have never, once, said that I hate him. The hatred, bluster and name calling comes from him and ppl like you and "worxs". I feel the same empathy for those men, women and children in Syria that any other sane person would. We should all thank our lucky stars that we weren't born into that state. You, always, get your issues mixed up by the desire to defame and be accusatory. Cogent and salient conversation, as does being a "real" Leader/President takes focus. Snap policy changes and lack of focus from the leader of the Free World will just lead to chaos. Similar but, ultimately, supremely more dangerous than the chaos he's, already caused in the U.S. Govt, The U.S. and other parts of the World. His policy towards Syria did a 180 in 6 days, Supposedly as a matter of the heart? The "Dictator" in him made a snap judgment to show his power with no strategy, no end game and w/o consulting Congress, which is the rule! AUMF does not apply because Syria's action presented "no significant danger" to The United States. So, his action was illegal and may be challenged as such. To be, brutally, honest, had he gone through proper channels (which he doesn't because he thinks that he is the only proper channel) and made a strike to, totally, destroy that Air Base and immobilize Syria's Air Force, I could have been behind that all the way. This isn't The Wild, Wild West. Things have to be done consistently, with purpose, policy, strategy and a focus on the results and reactions to your actions. The Nuclear World in which we live is no place for a Maverick...

GigiB87
  4/7/2017 14:57 EST

I hate him. One strategy that is tried and true for presidents, dictators, prime ministers, kings and queens, is, when popularity is low and getting worse, to start a war. This gets the attention away from domestic scandals and creates the appearance of being tough on Russia. Nixon did it NY declaring a 'War on Drugs'. Putin is doing it to detract from weak economy (GDP lower than Brazil). May be very propitious for AO, at least in short term. We'll see about long term, which sadly may not work out for any of us.

GigiB87
  4/7/2017 15:01 EST

'By' declaring, not 'NY' declaring. Bleep this phone, and AO!

giershift43
  4/7/2017 15:22 EST

The heat about the Russian connection and interference in the election is what the reference was about. The investigation into collusion with the Russians.

giershift43
  4/7/2017 15:33 EST

No the facts, not alternate facts.

giershift43
  4/7/2017 15:39 EST

Gigib you are correct. And already some have said send you children first.

GigiB87
  4/7/2017 15:55 EST

Gracias, Amiga. Did you notice one of the women who settled tweeted to AO that they have a forced mediation agreement at F--ks and that many of the women would have preferred to have taken it further had the option been available. Many of the poorly informed think these people are gold diggers rather than victims, unaware that by presenting their grievances publicly they face the possibility they may be committing career suicide.

GigiB87
  4/7/2017 15:59 EST

Sorry, referring to O'Reilly sexual harassment cases at F--ks. Can't blame phone this time.

giershift43
  4/7/2017 16:05 EST

Fear of retaliation is no small part of why so many of these crimes are not reported nor pursued. Even if a woman wins she will be blamed that she caused it.

Cozumeldeb
  4/7/2017 16:16 EST

Absolute truth, the Rethugs/Pretend Christians have worked against women's rights for 50+ yrs and now rethugs slammed through an illegal Supreme Court judge..Neil Gorsuch, who gave us the Hobby Lobby decision.

Cozumeldeb
  4/7/2017 16:16 EST

Absolute truth, the Rethugs/Pretend Christians have worked against women's rights for 50+ yrs and now rethugs slammed through an illegal Supreme Court judge..Neil Gorsuch, who gave us the Hobby Lobby decision.

giershift43
  4/7/2017 16:18 EST

Oppression of woman is supported by AO and the alt right.

giershift43
  4/7/2017 16:24 EST

Today Rand Paul:
I believe that nothing about this situation has changed. Military action is not in our national security interest and should not be authorized. Our prior interventions in this region have done nothing to make us safer, and Syria will be no different.

There is no doubt Assad is a brutal dictator. But if we seek to remove him, we must ask what comes next. Assad is fighting radical Islamic rebels, including large parts of ISIS. Who would take over Syria if Assad is deposed? Experience in Libya tells us chaos could reign, and radical Islamists could control large parts of the country.

Make no mistake, bombing Assad means the United States is fighting on the same side as ISIS and other radical Islamists in Syria. This is a dangerous and morally wrong policy.

AO forgets he is not King.

giershift43
  4/7/2017 16:32 EST

Trump cannot and knows that he cannot bring manufacturing back as it once was because it is changing forever in ways that make that an impossible promise. Here is one example of why it will not come back:Adidas unveiled their latest 3D-printed shoe last night, the Futurecraft 4D. The shoe is a huge improvement on their last 3D-printed runners, which were more of a concept than an actual product.

The new version is better suited for mass production – Adidas plans on selling 5,000 pairs this upcoming fall, which will scale up to more than 100,000 pairs by the end of 2018. While the company hasn’t announced the price, expect the first run to still be priced as a limited edition shoe. The first 3D runners retailed for $333, but sold secondhand for many times that.

Technological changes are forcing it to change and the kind of jobs to change.

giershift43
  4/7/2017 18:14 EST

While Trump speaks of feeling sympathy for the Syrian people who have suffered at the hands of Bashar al-Assad, it is hard to believe that his words are genuine when he not only has called for a ban on Syrian refugees, but has also repeatedly refused to challenge Russian President Vladimir Putin on his longstanding, troubling alliance with Assad and Recep Tayyip Erdo?an, the President of Turkey.

This news about the U.S.’s attack, which was carefully planned so that it would have the least possible amount of impact on Russia, is just the latest sign that there is more going on between Trump and Putin than he would like to have the American people believe.

Ramzfan
  4/7/2017 18:28 EST

Gier, it is very obvious that you are a liberal conspiracy theorist. Why can't you EVER believe that there is an ounce of good in Donald Trump? You ALWAYS have to find fault with anyone you don't agree with. If this had been Obama showing some aggression, you would be 100% on board. (Oh excuse me, Obama never had the balls to do what Trump just did...!

Ramzfan
  4/7/2017 18:33 EST

Gier, who's AO...? Does that stand for Alias Obama or who...?

giershift43
  4/7/2017 19:14 EST

Agent Orange for the color of Tump's hair. And why do you ask the same question you ask previously to make a nasty comment. When in doubt blame Obama, even if you have to make it up the toadies applaud.

giershift43
  4/7/2017 19:16 EST

Don't put words in my mouth. And quick confusing critical thinking and facts with, "liberal conspiracy." When you you reject information that is the typical response instead of using facts and a reasoned argument.

nelsonokelmgmailcom
  4/7/2017 19:52 EST

If T Rumps dog died he would blame Obama

giershift43
  4/7/2017 19:55 EST

Hey it worked for years

stevenlloyd
  4/7/2017 20:18 EST

To find something even more ridiculously foolish than Donald Trump one only has look to one of the fake news dupes who continue to make excuses for this woefully unprepared and unqualified moron. Those of us who thought our American cousins should be deeply embarrassed by having George Jr as their president really had no idea just how embarrassing it really could get for our friends – or how dangerous.

Ramzfan
  4/7/2017 20:31 EST

So Gier...now you're a Rand Paul fan...?

GigiB87
  4/7/2017 20:44 EST

Kathleen Parker, not to my knowledge known as a raging liberal, has an informative column today I just read in Albuquerque Journal, 'Trump continues to misdirect'. Had a few jabs at Dems, but mostly all AO.

giershift43
  4/7/2017 21:07 EST

Stevelloyd, You are correct!!
He will take us anywhere to any end for his own gain. Short term thinking and what does he get for it. Throw a war

giershift43
  4/7/2017 21:09 EST

Again do not put words in my mouth. But the critics come from both sides.
He didn't care if refugee children died.
Now he cares, I have reason to doubt it.

giershift43
  4/7/2017 21:13 EST

Maybe it is time to ask is there anything Tump could say or do that you do not defend???
Lies, diversion, fake news blaming Obama, blaming liberals and not taking responsibility for what he says and does . The nepotism. Have you drunk the cool aid?

Ramzfan
  4/7/2017 21:27 EST

You're the one putting words in Trumps mouth Gier...of course he cares if refugee children die. He knows though, that we MUST have a border plan if America is going to remain safe. We cannot take all of the worlds people. It's another thing though, to sit by and allow a madman to kill children. No one in their right mind wants to see that happen.

giershift43
  4/7/2017 23:28 EST

You mean what he said and I saw in videos I made up? Ok
Question: you said that since he was elected, you no longer need to leave the States? Why are you on this site? It is for those who are either expats or looking to become expats. I don't see you asking questions or providing answers about moving to Mexico.

giershift43
  4/7/2017 23:34 EST

In 2013 Trump and it is on video saying to not bomb Syria . Same situation gassing civilians. I did not see evidence that the country was over populated? We have an aging population and would benefit from having young immigrants. He never said that we do not have room. That is a new rationalization for him refusing to accept refugees including children.

ghammond
  4/8/2017 08:00 EST

Hey giershift43 do the lights ever go out in your mothers basement?

giershift43
  4/8/2017 08:31 EST

6th grade idea of an argument

hrlee7804
  4/8/2017 10:19 EST

I left reading this f###king thread 3 weeks ago because of all the dribble. I am still trying to find a reason the site owner puts up with the non Mexican Expat content.....It stopped having any of that a long time ago. I guessing the ads being sold now between messages may answer that. I used to come here and be excited to see what is going on. I am so sick and tired of hearing all of this that I really don't have any faith in those involved on the rest of the topics on Expat Exchange that they chime in on. Why don't you flop over to religion or corruption in the medical field or sports and give politics a fricking rest. You guys act like Trump did not get voted into office. Where are the Americans that voted for Trump? and why are they not here to support him? Oh, ya, now I remember. They are working or doing something constructive and not just jacking their jaws! "Disappointed with you in Oregon"

Ramzfan
  4/8/2017 12:04 EST

I find it amazing that a certain few people on here are so blinded by their hatred for DJT that they cannot see the forest because of the trees. They still believe that Trump is in cahoots with the Russians, even though he just slapped them across the face with his missle attack on the country they were sworn to protect.

GigiB87
  4/8/2017 12:28 EST

I don't believe with any certainty that Trump is ' in cahoots'. I do believe as do all our intelligence agencies that the Russians interfered with our presidential election. So should you. Impossible to quantify the effects, obviously. And it is clear that some of his associates have had inappropriate connections with 'Eastern Block',/thus their recusals. Now, don't think the CIA and other agencies haven't done the same, many times (like installing the Shah of Iran and, if I recall, overthrowing a democratic ally elected government there in the process). There are 3 ongoing investigations, I believe. If there is anything out there it should surface. If you think the Clintons made big bucks with Uranium sales (dubious) why is it so hard to believe Trump may (and I say MAY!) have similar relations? Finally, why is it that Putin seems, from what we have seen so far, to prefer Trump over Clinton? And just as a side note. I really don't get where Julian Assange is going with all his inopportune leaks, some of which have admittedly been beneficial, why he is still alive, considering all those he has pissed off ( Im not advocating harming him) and how our gov. agencies and DNC could be so inept as to
continually it seems, let themselves be hacked, exploited and embarrassed.

Ramzfan
  4/8/2017 12:46 EST

Finally Gigi, a letter with some common sense behind it! I believe to a certain extent, that the Russians might have interfered with our election. For what purpose, I don't know. You can call me blind, but I am almost positive that DJT was not involved. I do believe that Putin prefers Trump to Hillary due to the fact that he likes tough people and doesn't like dealing with women or liars. (Just my opinion)
Lastly, I don't know why Assange is still alive or out of jail. His revelations have been interesting but not something I place a lot of stock in. I cannot figure out why the DNC or ANYBODY has not been able to stop the hacking, but then again, that's not my field of expertise. I do believe that the whole world will become more cyber-security conscious because of Assange and so, hopefully that will be a good thing.
Cheers, Steve

giershift43
  4/8/2017 13:00 EST

You assume that those who think poorly of Trump hate him. I don't. I have serious concerns about him that are not easily dismissed, especially by being called names for having those concerns.

GigiB87
  4/8/2017 13:02 EST

A lot of the other letters have common sense and perception behind them. It is hard for you to see it because there is so much emotion associated with Trump. So you are basically damning with faint praise. A lot of us felt the same for years when the criticisms about Obama came out. There were clearly problems with his presidency, but the off the wall flat out silly stuff colored everything else and overshadowed any rational, constructive comments, which we all need. I didn't start out despising him, but followed him for years, from his books to his ventures in professional football and hisngolf course construction I'm Scotland and his ridiculous TV shows ( my opinion). His birther BS, which I have now heard him blame on HRC, really did it for me. I despise him, I believe rationally, and I think once you know him better you will come closer to sharing my opinion. Now, I hope I am wrong and he becomes a transformative President we all can admire. Wouldn't bet a cent on it, and neither should you.

GigiB87
  4/8/2017 13:10 EST

And I do despise him, not ashamed of admitting it, and would consider him evil, if sociopaths, who have no real sense of right and wrong, can be considered evil. That doesn't mean I will insist on this to my grave, and I'm sure I'd sleep better at night if I didn't hate his f----ng guts, but grew up in a family with someone like this, understand what they are capable of, which many of us brought up in more loving, trusting environments do not. How many blacks and Hispanics do you know who absolutely despise him,,? They have known people like him all their lives and get (understand) him. Believe me. I didn't hate either Bush, I despise AO.

giershift43
  4/8/2017 13:28 EST

GIgib, I don't think I have the energy to hate, but I do think DT is basically evil by his narcissism.
Your criticism are not blind name calling or labeling people that don't agree with you. There have been so many instances documented of DT just lying or promoting lies for self serving reasons to not recognize them is follie.

GigiB87
  4/8/2017 14:17 EST

Thanks, GS.

Cozumeldeb
  4/8/2017 17:58 EST

ghammond, do u seriously want to blather lies like ramzfan? Do u live in MX?

GigiB87
  4/8/2017 18:57 EST

Oh, and bite me, hrly7804, and 7805, 7806 and so on... At least in terms of #s probably one of the most successful threads on the site. Sorry you don't believe in freedom of speech. Hundreds of other choices for you on this excellent site.

MexJuan1
  4/8/2017 22:22 EST

Love the spunk Gigi! You go girl!!! No one will shut me up either. The investigations are ongoing. No matter the deflections. No matter who he, illegally and needlessly, bombs. Which, BTW, did nothing but inflame the situation and further danger the innocent Syrian ppl.

GigiB87
  4/8/2017 22:45 EST

Thanks Juan. And hrlee7804, sorry you are so disappointed. Maybe you could contribute something coherent to this infuriating thread. Talking about Mexico.... Do you think this multi-billion $ wall is a good idea,.given the possibility of catapults, tunnels, drones, airplanes, boats, submarines, diversionary tactics in one spot to climb over at another, etc. etc. And by good idea I mean do the benefits outweigh the costs?
Oregon is a very liberal state, overall. Maybe Oregon might be disappointed in you. (Sorry, cheap shot.) So how about answering my question.

MexJuan1
  4/8/2017 23:27 EST

Wall, as promised, won't be built anyway. And I wanted to say, I take exception to the comment made about "working". You have heard of RETIREMENT, haven't you. Which I, fully, earned by "working" for 42 years. And, I am, completely, enjoying my RETIREMENT. I've heard that BS line so many times from guys like you, on talk radio and from "lackey" conservatives. You ppl are so narcissistic that you think you're the only ones who work and that ALL liberals are on Welfare or incapable of employment. It's just a ridiculous line and lie that is so trite... Not to mention predictable. So, like the rest of your kind, either join the conversation with something factual and intelligent instead of degradation and name calling, which seems to be your forte. Or stay away. Ignore it. Live YOUR fruitful life and leave us to wallow in our inequities (that's sarcasm, just in case you can't recognize it. ;-) You know, like the truth. And facts. And a dismal, incompetent, failing president... And the fact that the very bad choice America has made is and will effect us all in a very bad way! I just read a credible article today about how, if Mexico elects Lopez Obrador, things will get very bad between the U.S. and Mexico and those of us expats who are living here so, it's a "real" thing so, deal with it... If, in fact, you even do live here in Mexico?

nelsonokelmgmailcom
  4/8/2017 23:54 EST

MexJuan GOOD POST! The conservatives who think liberals are on welfare need to extract their heads from their gastrointestinal tract. If you look at any facts it is the red states who have the majority of persons on welfare, Medicaid and other governmental give away programs. They are the "taker states". It is unfortunate that the recipients of government aid are too poorly educated and informed to realize that they are voting against themselves. This ignorance has been cultivated by the ReThugLicans for years. Look at the link showing the taker vs giver states. http://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=9XCnapO%2f&id=89F5ECA7E1D91B3E4220A69FDA99B202BEA34E9D&q=taker+states+vs+giver+states&simid=607999883998267119&selectedIndex=15

giershift43
  4/9/2017 09:03 EST

It is hard to stay out of a political discussion when the President has vilified the people of a long time ally trading partner and the country in which the people in this blog either live or are planning to live. Especially when the stability of the man in the oval office is and has been widely questioned. He lies incessantly and his supporters do not seem to be bothered by it. Meanwhile he embraced a historical enemy and now bombed an air base without approval of congress. The world is on edge. Why wouldn't we.

giershift43
  4/9/2017 09:03 EST

It is hard to stay out of a political discussion when the President has vilified the people of a long time ally trading partner and the country in which the people in this blog either live or are planning to live. Especially when the stability of the man in the oval office is and has been widely questioned. He lies incessantly and his supporters do not seem to be bothered by it. Meanwhile he embraced a historical enemy and now bombed an air base without approval of congress. The world is on edge. Why wouldn't we.

LeiaRowan
  4/9/2017 09:16 EST

Not selfish? trump? wow, are you delusional,.. trump owns stock in the company that makes those missiles. He made an extra billion for his company by firing them into Syria.

giershift43
  4/9/2017 09:23 EST

Liberals are in general people who understand that we are a part of a larger system and demonstrate responsibility not only for ourselves, but other people. The right has worked to spin this to wanting something for nothing. So incorrect. I am 67 and still working part time. I have worked 43 years in my profession and a good couple of years before then. I am willing to pay taxes for a better society, one that takes care of it's people and promotes the general welfare. That is what will make America strong and great. I have more than once been told by a Fox news toady that I am not like other liberals. HUH?? What does that mean. I have saved for my retirement. I have invested and have never wanted others to take care of me, but am aware that life is complicated and the world changes constantly. We need to work to make sure everyone has a fair chance. That idea has been under attack by a few rich and powerful to play a large part of the population against each other so they can increase their wealth unfettered.

MexJuan1
  4/9/2017 09:33 EST

As the Syrian bombing missions on it's ppl continue from that airport where little damage was done. Of course he made money! One thing you can be certain of: if trump does something, anything, he does it for trump. His delusional "sheep-like" followers, think that he, actually, cares about them, America and the World. Billionaires care about two things. Themselves & M O N E Y! Especially this billionaire!!!

giershift43
  4/9/2017 11:03 EST

Mexjuan that is consistent with his patterns of behavior. This leopard is not changed his spots at this point in his life.

MexJuan1
  4/9/2017 11:14 EST

I, personally, don't like that, particular, analogy. Leopards being one of my favorite wild and magnificent animals being used in the same sentence as the likes of trump. I agree though but how about changing it to a "skunk of different smell"? ;-) just a suggestion of personal preference. Semantics...

giershift43
  4/9/2017 11:59 EST

Mexjuan, works for me. Or personality patterns tend to be very hard to change.

GigiB87
  4/9/2017 12:56 EST

I acknowledge I probably sound like a hypocrite to some for saying this, considering some of the things I have said about Trump, but there isn't a firm divide between liberals and conservatives. It is more like a continuous line. All liberals don't agree on everything, some of us embrace some conservative ideas, and some ideas/policies have gone from being embraced by one group to being accepted by the other, or both. Many of us were appalled at the right's reaction to the Obama presidency. I am hoping, perhaps naively,.that the current Trump ascendancy is a diseased aberration, but I do agree with Biden who says that he has learned to accept the fact that his opponents are at the least sincere, though perhaps misguided. It is easy to attack the character and sincerity of the right wing buffoons on talk radio, and most of the commentators on F---ks. I am so sorry that Alan Combs died, and I wouldn't be surprised if the AO victory contributed, and most of the inarticulate idiots who do a drive by on this thread, but wr are are in a war of ideas, and now political strategy and tactics ,,(fake news, hacking etc.) The right has to a large extent conceded the social arena to the left ( not entirely, don't put words on my mouth,)...condemning racism, supporting gay rights etc. But we are in an economic battle with global corporate forces that has the potential to reverse all these advancements and leave those of us left in a devastated planet with overheated oceans, polluted air and water. And the worker drones and those who think about political ideology the way some embrace religion and who don't think with any clarity about the big picture need to wake up.

hrlee7804
  4/9/2017 13:19 EST

Gigi...Do I think building the wall is a good idea? Without all the facts I certainly can't make that call. Your list of ways to defeat the wall certainly come into play and will also have to be dealt with. I think 100% the wall won't solve many problems because the problem is peoples morals. Drugs are a moral issue. Good upstanding folks don't associate with them. AND YOU CANNOT LEGISLATE MORALITY! So this world has gone to hell in a hand basket because we got too fat, lazy and rich. This civilization will come to an end because of it and it will start over someday probably. In the mean time we are putting band aids on cut arteries. I get in the mix when I hear people talking like they know something when all they know is what some news service tells them. MSN says one thing and FOX another....where is the truth? They don't care because it is about advertising $ and not reporting the truth. I refuse to have a discussion about my views on politics because by definition the American citizen knows very little about the truth. Just someone's perception of the truth. Science is something you can hang your hat on because it is fact and proven. Politics are a mess because we as a people are a mess. Everyone wanting something for nothing and most not willing to work for it and getting worse. Someone said we are officially on the 4th generation of inner-city families that if you asked them "what do you ?" they don't have an answer or know anyone that does have an answer. I do believe we have more Americans voting for a living that working for a living. There is something wrong with a society that houses their ageing parents and allows those on public assistance to have a new tv and 28" wheels on their banger mobile. As a government we can't even stop crime anymore because we let it get out of hand(bleeding heard democrats) and now the bad guys out number us on the streets and in our government. Hillary and Donald.....Really, the best we had to choose from. Who the F**k else would want the job?

giershift43
  4/9/2017 13:32 EST

What I have read about the wall is that it is not effective in our age of technology.
If you want to keep out cartels, they own boats and planes. The also own people in powerful positions. It will also adversely effect landowners on the border. There is also a lot of false information about how much undocumented low level workers cost. They are not eligible for medicaid nor food stamps. I have been a social worker for more than 40 years and have assisted hundreds of people apply. No one gets medicaid without documentation of legal status. So many of the problems that are to be reduced by keeping out low level workers were not accurate anyway.
Sure we need to protect our borders, but from what and how is not addressed by a wall. Also most undocumented immigrants come from those who came here legally and overstayed their visas. Students who just stayed, etc. Many are not from latin America. It is also a very expensive proposition to have a brick and mortar wall when our infrastructure needs work. Then the issue of bringing back jobs in manufacturing neglects that many have been eliminated through automation. We need massive retraining and education efforts to prepare people for the world we live in and the one we are entering which include 3D printers that are on the verge of mass manufacturing. No way to turn back the clock on this. So I do not see much of what DT promises as based on the world we live in as much as the one we used to live in and wishful thinking.

GigiB87
  4/9/2017 13:34 EST

I asked about the wall because that was really the tipping point for his election, IMO. There are a lot of facts out there and you must have an opinion. To me it is overkill, and I have spent time near the border and seen a rancher murdered by cartels because, I believe, he wouldn't take a big bribe to cross his land.. I know felons who have firearms, people who sell food stamps for drugs, and have read about women on welfare who prostitute their children. And who abuse Medicaid and cheat the IRS (allegedly) but the solution is to, IMO, crack down on abuse, not cut it off. Still believe most who get it need it, though some Dems give stuff out like candy to get political support. However, how much more damage may be done by big time white collar criminals?

giershift43
  4/9/2017 13:37 EST

hrlee since you brought up the drug issue. Treating it as a moral issue has never been effective. Treating it by attacking the supply has been an abysmal failure. The Columbians found that out. The problem has been better addressed by focusing on health and demand. The huge profits caused by keeping it illegal feed the cartels and do not deter users which create demand. Alcoholism was never successfully treated as a moral issue either. I suggest you consult a site called Chemistry not Character. The nature of addiction is not one of simply making bad choices or moral failing.

GigiB87
  4/9/2017 13:57 EST

And I do appreciate your response, hrlee. We're actually talking a little policy. Thanks. Meth is the big time problem (and I guess cheap heroin) both from Mexico, now. DEA statistics haven't in the past documented the problems accurately because they have traditionally only counted US labs seized (great book, 'Methland:) No perfect solution,.unless. we want to adopt ,Saudi (and maybe now Filipino)/approach and just execute all users and dealers. How far should our personal freedom go,/and why shouldn't I be able to use any drug I want if no one else is harmed? Not advocating,. just asking. And I imagine many more have been exploited or killed over oil.

MexJuan1
  4/9/2017 14:16 EST

Check out articles on Portugal's legalization of ALL DRUGS, decriminalization and socialization/rehabilitation policy in effect since 2001. Still in very effective existence to date. They we're faces with soaring HIV and addiction rates and high crime. It, virtually, eliminated the Black Market and "Street Drugs" that kill ppl, dramatically lowered HIV occurrences and developed a usable and effective social rehab system instead of just putting ppl in jail to repeat the cycle. You're not going to stop drug usage, ever! Control, effective treatment, elimination of "Black Market" traffic and treating ppl like they're "sick",which they are, and not criminals has worked in Portugal. Very progressive approach, no doubt and way beyond the scope of a conservative American mind for sure! Jeff Sessions announcing, yet, another War on Drugs that will not work. The U.S. is complicity in the problem because it makes their systems money...

GigiB87
  4/9/2017 14:37 EST

Just curious, Juan. You may be right. I'm not so sure. Easy to have an opinion. I have plenty, but would you stake your career and reputation on drug legalization? Have you ever been in rehab, used any narcotics other than pot, known many users of heroin, meth or crack? So is it progressive to legalize heroin? And what would that entail? Would we have to monitor and regulate quality. Hell, we can't even do that with prescription drugs. Porgugal, like Holland, is a small country not exactly comparable to the US, which borders Mexico. Not much cheap coke,/plenty of heroin and meth I'm sure. I'd like to see Xanax and Oxycontin available to all. Is that a good idea? Can't compare the 2/,,countries without more info. Personally, I'd like to keep alcohol legal, but given the number of deaths I've seen from DUI and hard core alcoholism I would certainly like to see more regulation at some level. Don't have the answers, just not sure and playing devil's advocate.

GigiB87
  4/9/2017 14:45 EST

And I will make an effort to check out articles. Germany apparently also has an apparently effective open door prison system for treating the most violent offenders. I like it, but have learned to be mistrustful of anyone with a vested interest in a particular project who are then called upon to report on it and defend it. Kind of like the drug treatment industry we have in the US. Or the hopefully declining for profit prison system.. Complex issues .particularly in a country with states with a large level of autonomy.

giershift43
  4/9/2017 14:46 EST

GiGib,
My experience with the Social Welfare system is not a passing one. I have worked in it and on behalf of children and persons with disabilities. Nothing is given out like candy nor simply. People often come to me and ask how can someone get disability or food stamps, with the belief that everyone around them gets it. That it is done easily. I can tell you that is not what I know first hand of the system. There maybe some who cheat, but that is true of tax cheats as well and off shore accounts. But no one in the State of Ohio can get medicaid nor food stamps without proof, documentation of need and legal residency.
As for getting disability it takes a lot of documentation and also an independent evaluation to be approved. Many people are denied frequently and repeatedly. My first husband had a brain tumor that eventually killed him. I know the system and had to laugh out loud when I drove him to be examined first hand by one of the doctors employed by Social Security. He took all his meds, had trouble walking and lost his ability to read and write. Then they review every few years and anyone on disability better have appropriate documentation and professionals to back it. I think the idea that it happens easily is part of the redirection of our attention and playing the working people against each other.

giershift43
  4/9/2017 14:49 EST

I just received this:K.T McFarland, President Donald Trump’s deputy National Security Adviser, has been asked to step down from her role after less than 3 months on the job.

More chaos

When it comes to controlling drugs, some consider the war on Drugs (notorious failure) as a Republican full employment program. It never can be won and employs a lot of people.

giershift43
  4/9/2017 14:51 EST

I agree with MexJuan on this.

Our war on drugs keeps criminals rich and a large bureaucracy playing a game that is not winnable, but sounds tough on the campaign trouble.

giershift43
  4/9/2017 15:01 EST

If making the drug trade illegal with serious penalties worked, it would be over by now. It has failed. And the war on drugs employs lots of people as well as the prisons system.
If it worked I would be all for it.
I live in Ohio we have a huge heroine problem here. I have counseled families . It is horrible, but as long as the demand is there and the money, it will continue. People with the problem need to be able to get treatment without fear of prison and a way to control what they use. Force and has not inhibited it. And in terms of counselors and treatment facilities, they are already overwhelmed and are not needing more customers. The same attacking the supply failed with alcohol and will fail unless the supply can be fixed to no longer yield the sought after result. Which is what was done to Meth.
There is a documentary on it somewhere on the net. You can probably find it if you look.

hrlee7804
  4/9/2017 15:02 EST

Giershift.....did you really say adiction is not simply making bad choices or moral failing......! Holy sh#t. Think that is in the defination. Some cultures, races or DNA may make some more prone to addiction. I will give you that but where is our responsibility to make good choices? ?? If my lifestyle is hanging in a bar or snorting or sniffing or shooting then blame mommy? What we need is another bleeding heart program to spend tax money on. Life is not fair or easy. The sooner folks learn that the easier life is. If you (not you) are too stupid to understand that a society that can give you freebies will eventually take it away and you as a society will suffer.

GigiB87
  4/9/2017 15:03 EST

Believe me, I said and stand by the fact that I personally know numerous people, including undocs who use other people's ID, to get assistance,.who find ways to play the system. Including MDs and Social Service workers. You have to recognize the fact that all States are different and have the authority to dispense Medicaid and EBT. So you can only speak for your state or your agency. I also said that most are deserving to receive these services, but there is plenty of fraud and abuse. You can't monitor whether my Zia pueblo friend sells her and her childrens EBT for 1/2 off to buy crack. You can't monitor the ineptness in New Mexico Medicaid coding and billing (the Feds pay 70%,) which may havevcaused our Medicaid fund to go broke and services to be cut. I still maintain benefits outweigh costs, but that abuse should be monitored more carefully. That is all I'm saying.

giershift43
  4/9/2017 15:10 EST

From a CNNreport:Here we are, four decades after Richard Nixon declared the war on drugs in 1971 and $1 trillion spent since then. What do we have to show for it?
The U.S. has the largest prison population in the world, with about 2.3 million behind bars. More than half a million of those people are incarcerated for a drug law violation. What a waste of young lives.
In business, if one of our companies is failing, we take steps to identify and solve the problem. What we don't do is continue failing strategies that cost huge sums of money and exacerbate the problem. Rather than continuing on the disastrous path of the war on drugs, we need to look at what works and what doesn't in terms of real evidence and data.
Opinion: The end of the war on marijuana
The facts are overwhelming. If the global drug trade were a country, it would have one of the top 20 economies in the world. In 2005, the United Nations estimated the global illegal drug trade is worth more than $320 billion. It also estimates there are 230 million illegal drug users in the world, yet 90% of them are not classified as problematic.
In the United States, if illegal drugs were taxed at rates comparable to those on alcohol and tobacco, they would yield $46.7 billion in tax revenue. A Cato study says legalizing drugs would save the U.S. about $41 billion a year in enforcing the drug laws.


Studying the brain to understand what causes some people to become addicted looks like something that has not been studied enough.

GigiB87
  4/9/2017 15:11 EST

And maybe it is just the company I keep but almost everyone I know has made up places they have supposedly gone to look for work while on ,'Unemployment' and decided not to declare income they thought they could hide to the IRS, and reported a lower used vehicle sales price to MVD to save registration fees. And from what I've heard the worst abusers, and those in general least likely to give $ to charity, are the wealthiest. Don't know about that, but it wouldn't surprise me.

giershift43
  4/9/2017 15:20 EST

No it is recognized as meeting the criteria for a disease.
Where have you been living?
Do you still think schizophrenia is caused by bad parenting??

No addiction is not as simple as having made a bad choice. Similarly to some people can drink socially and other become addicted are more complicated and not moral issues.

How much time have you put into studying these social problems?

GigiB87
  4/9/2017 15:20 EST

Well, respectfully, have to charge phone. Check out the scientist who set up a ,'rat park' for coke addicted caged rats and studies on returning, heroin addicted Vietnam Vets who stopped once home. Social factors, stress, poverty etc. Current Drug Abuse system not working. We all agree. Too bad we can't have one state that can try something radical and see what happens. Peace.

giershift43
  4/9/2017 15:26 EST

No one is blaming mommy either.
There is individual responsibility for handling our problems, but not everyone who uses or have used becomes addicted. It is more complicated than that.

It seems that you jumped into the rhetoric of people are irresponsible and that's it or parents are to blame. That is not what it is about at all. But biological components are not insignificant and helping people work through denial and working to change would better describe the approach. No one gets a you have no responsibility for your decisions is not the same as it being a moral issue. Bad people do this and good people do not.

giershift43
  4/9/2017 15:31 EST

I did not say that never happens, but I also do not think that accurately describes the situation anymore than some people cheat on their taxes does.

Both have some validity, It is just not a comprehensive evaluation of the situation. It also does not mean the wall will end that. Since many of the undocumented entered with visas and then just overstayed their visa. The wall will not address that.

But here is a quote I came across today that is on a different subject that you might appreciated,‘Xinhua, the state news agency, on Saturday called the strike the act of a weakened politician who needed to flex his muscles. In an analysis, Xinhua also said Mr. Trump had ordered the strike to distance himself from Syria’s backers in Moscow, to overcome accusations that he was “pro-Russia.”

giershift43
  4/9/2017 15:34 EST

By the way I have been a social worker for 43 years.
I have my independent license and like other professions there is a board to oversee anyone who might abuse the position. If you want to look at corruption we can look into many situations and fields including real estate. That is why we establish regulations and governing bodies.

giershift43
  4/9/2017 15:42 EST

And DEA agents may get involved in corruption as well. We tried mandatory sentencing and what was set up, private for prisons that created a new brand of corruption. It is also paid for with tax payer money.

I want solutions that work. Not just that pose more solutions that have been tried and failed miserably. There is probably more than one approach and part to the problem. It is not all or none. Corruption needs to be weeded out where ever it lives. No specific population owns it. Yes there are doctors who have committed fraud. There are individuals who cheat and no one reform movement will end corruption for all time.

giershift43
  4/9/2017 15:46 EST

Some people do recover. Again it is not a one size fits all. And if any aspect of the treatment for addicts of all kind that exists is personal responsibility for fighting the addiction.

The war on drugs has been a waste. The studying of addiction is still in it's infancy. Looking at it as other than a moral issue is what is new.
The struggle to find what works is still that a struggle, but a Trillion dollars spent on the War on Drugs hasn't worked.

giershift43
  4/9/2017 15:50 EST

This was published in 2011:Addiction is a chronic brain disorder, and not merely a behavioral problem or simply the result of taking the wrong choices, according to the American Society of Addiction Medicine (ASAM), which has given addiction a new and long definition. ASAM says that addiction is much, much more than a behavioral problem involving excessive drugs, sex, gambling or alcohol.

When most of us witness compulsive and harmful behaviors in family members, friends, and even public figures, we generally focus on the use of the substance or the obsession target and their behaviors as the problem.

GigiB87
  4/9/2017 17:54 EST

Just curious, giershift, are you talking to me or to hrlee?

GigiB87
  4/9/2017 18:22 EST

Okay, here goes. I have a doctorate in economics (BFD) and have been in rehab. I know people on both sides of the spectrum and generally find that people that like to beat you over the head with their credentials and not their ideas are the ones you should mistrust the most. The Rat Park study was more recent than 2011, I believe. Wasn't he on Bill Maher on HBO about 2014? No one is denying the drug war is a failure, and I am certainly not saying addiction is anything other than multi- faceted. But I have worked for the state and have seen people repeatedly misdiagnosed by inept healthcare workers who are too busy or too entitled to do their job properly. I have seen people lose their jobs because of medical records mistakenly released to employers

giershift43
  4/9/2017 18:35 EST

The American people are being taken to the cleaners:For a man who seemingly can’t keep former President Barack Obama’s name out of his mouth, a comparison of their presidential travel expenditures seems fitting.

According to new reports, not even three months into his presidential tenure, Trump has cost U.S. taxpayers at least $24 million to cover expenses for trips to his Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm, Beach Florida nearly every weekend. To put that in perspective, President Obama spent approximately $24 million on travel over the first two years of his time in office. Since taking office, Trump has spent 9 out of 11 weekends at a Trump-owned property. (but we can't afford meals on wheels.)

JPH
  4/9/2017 18:39 EST

Can this particular post be erased from delivery into an 'In' Box or do we have to delete ALL the complete Daily Info' Service ? I am fed-up with having to now automatically delete over 60 posts a day o this subject when it is a post of political-comment & personal self-interest NOT anything to do with information relevant to anyone seeking useful info' to assist and make sense of living in MX _ AND, there are other nationalities than American who actually visit/live in MX !!!! This has been mentioned by other Readers as it drags on. MODERATOR - WAKE UP !!!!!!

GigiB87
  4/9/2017 18:41 EST

And I understand both sides of some issues related to some economic and social issues. Of course there is a brain component. But I doubt if you will find many people who try heroin once or twice who fail to become addicted. I currently living next door to a recovering heroin addict and have known many. I firmly believe that if we could control for quality heroin would be less damaging than hard core alcohol addiction. Since it is illegal we'd have to compare it to bath tub gin in prohibition times. So are you suggesting a pill that will stop the cravings for heroin, because methadone was such a BF success. Anyway, sorry, I guess the drug problems are sort of your thing and you are probably a lot more knowledgeable than I. Try spending some time on the street
with some of these folks. May change your perspective,. as I am sure being a social worker would change mine. So sorry if I was rude. And JPH,.bite me.

giershift43
  4/9/2017 19:11 EST

To anyone who is willing to listen. I get passionate over some subjects. Lol

MexJuan1
  4/9/2017 19:13 EST

Ditto...

GigiB87
  4/9/2017 19:19 EST

Don't we all. Just wish I didn't embarrass myself when I get too worked up and overstate my case or say something that makes perfect sense to me but isn't presented in a way that makes sense to others ,or alienate people I generally agree with by trying to beat them over the head with one particular point, even tho I am 100% sure at that moment I am correct.

giershift43
  4/9/2017 19:21 EST

Recently I had a friend whose nephew died of a heroin overdose. He start posting wanting death penalty to pushers. I said that I didn't agree. Which set him off. I explained to him that I would be for it if it did any good. Yes these are very bad problems, but the pervasiveness of the problem is. Such that we could have public hangings and it would not stop this thing. For any dealer arrested or killed there are dozens to replace them. The desire for the produce is beyond reason . Often the way addicts die is when the cut down or try to stop then use again as they had and overdose. There is so much that is not yet know or understood about the nature of this compulsion , but putting people in jail has just given us the largest prison population in the world. It is something that I have given more than a passing thought.

MexJuan1
  4/9/2017 19:40 EST

We're all just imperfect humans when it comes down to it. Possessing and expressing any belief in what you feel should never embarrass you. Embarrassment and shame should fall to the shoulders of those who defy inescapable facts and truths.

Ramzfan
  4/9/2017 20:35 EST

Our president hasn't vilified the Mexican people, Gier. All he has ever said is that he wants to vet those coming over the border and make sure that they are in our country LEGALLY! Furthermore, he does not lie incessantly. On the contrary, everything that he promised during the campaign is coming true. As far as embracing a historical enemy, I think it's great! You keep your enemies close. And finally, you need to read the Constitution before you embarrass yourself any further. The president doesn't need the permission of Congress in order to launch a tactical strike. He only needs it to declare war.

Ramzfan
  4/9/2017 20:50 EST

Gigi, the bottom line is: are they LEGAL...? We are not allowed to go into Mexico without papers. We also have to show reasonable finances, we can't work while we're in Mexico, we are allowed six months to register our car. Don't you think that AMERICANS should have the right to know who's in THEIR Country...?

Ramzfan
  4/9/2017 21:10 EST

Gier, I agree completely that the war on drugs hasn't worked and cannot work. The government doesn't want it to work! It employs too many people. My answer would be to legalize ALL DRUGS. If someone wants to use them, make them free. If they want to get off of them, help them. If they don't want off of them, let them die. What this would do is eliminate the drug cartels, reduce drastically the robberies and car-jackings, eliminate the need for as many prisons, prison employees, parole officers, etc. It will never happen though, because all of the gov't employees will not allow it to.

giershift43
  4/9/2017 22:46 EST

You know I do not see it as you do. As he said , I could shoot someone and they wouldn't care. Following DT fills a need in you that lets you filter out clear contradictions and lies. I just hope he does not damage the nation and world beyond repair. Grabbing a woman where he wants. Ecaise he is so important is not a decent man.

GigiB87
  4/9/2017 23:29 EST

I know a number of people who have quit, almost always going to something else, preferably pot but not always. I'm sure not advocating the death penalty, but it is not true that no one will be affected and will stop. The question is how many, and is it a large in enough % to be effective. More effective to kill the.dealers. The Saudis have public beheadings. Disgusting and unacceptable in our world, but I'm sure it has an effect.
Speaking of disgusting, Bill O'Reilly and Fox has paid out $13 million to 5 women and so far more than 40 advertisers have left F---ks. Que lastima.
AGAIN, NOT ADVOCATING DEATH PENALTY FOR DRUG USERS OR DEALERS. Prefer treatment for most non violent offenders,. but won't do much if they don't want help. And alcohol abuse is a much, much bigger social problem, both in terms of violent crimes.and health costs to society..
(And I promised myself I'd stay off this site tonight. Apologies to all, and to all a ....)

giershift43
  4/10/2017 07:47 EST

Here's a new report that may interest you. 7 women overdosed this morning in the Fayette County Ohio County jail.
Ohio has a huge problem and being in jail didn't stop them from getting it.

This should be an interesting investigation. Do with it what you will.

MexJuan1
  4/10/2017 08:01 EST

Last month, March, there were 189 OD's in the county (Trumbull) where I lived in Ohio. So far, in April, there have been 8 OD deaths. Ohio is changing rx laws for Drs. that allow them to prescribe opioids for only 7 days at a time. Exceptions for Cancer, Chronic Pain etc. That's only going to make the problem worse, forcing ppl out into the "streets". Like I've said many times, you are NOT going to stop drug usage, especially, this way! The United States is not progressive enough in their thinking on this issue and the Criminal Justice System, Jails, Police and Sheriff Depts. the Courts, Lawyers etc make way too much money to do it the right way. It's a vicious conservative complicit circle. Conservative thinking, motivated by money and an uncaring attitude towards ppl can eff up a wet dream!

giershift43
  4/10/2017 08:12 EST

Yes, it is totally out of control. Not a minute after the report on Fayette County, there was a report of 5 overdoses at the Franklin County Work Release program. I live in Franklin and work part time at a counseling agency.
The waitlist for counseling is way too long. If I were up to it, I could work night and day. The War on Drugs and mandatory sentencing has failed. At this point in my life, I do look at resting and that is part of my dreams of Lake Chapala. Ohio and Indiana are described as having heroin epidemics. There are people who have found their way out of it, but it takes commitment, hard work and significant supports. So maybe this helps understand why I get so emotional over it. Today I will try to take a break from it all. Get some rest and day dream about my future home in the peaceful villages of Lake Chapala.

Cozumeldeb
  4/10/2017 08:23 EST

Ramzfan you forgot to fact check again! "Mexico is not sending us their best people, they are sending us murderers, rapists and I assume a few good people." If that's not filling an entire group then what is? You are on the wrong side of history and are being played.

Cozumeldeb
  4/10/2017 08:27 EST

Ramzfan, again no fact checking, estimates are as high as 40% of foreigners are in MX illegally. They come and stay without papers.

giershift43
  4/10/2017 08:35 EST

Mexico is NOT "sending us" people.

The government of Mexico is not conspiring to send us those they do not want. It is the kind of problem that could be worked on together if you do not insult them. By the time DT said this we already had a net zero immigration from Mexico. So maybe you should fact check. When we have a criminal cross the border to hide in Mexico, did the U.S. government send them. No

Cozumeldeb
  4/10/2017 08:46 EST

Giershift, I think u misread my comment to Ramzfan. He said Trump never villified the MX people, my Trump quote "MX is not sending their best people, they are sending murderers, rapists etc....I live in this beautiful country, and am very ashamed of Trump.

Ramzfan
  4/10/2017 09:49 EST

You had me on this one until you started blaming conservatives Juan...who makes all the laws? Which party writes the most laws? Difference between conservatives & liberals is that conservatives want people to live their own lives, liberals want to live people's live for them...!

Ramzfan
  4/10/2017 09:51 EST

Well Deb, isn't that true...?

Ramzfan
  4/10/2017 09:51 EST

Well Deb, isn't that true...?

giershift43
  4/10/2017 09:57 EST

When the system worked, they wrote the laws together. All or none thinking and the blaming does not solve problems. I really need to do something else today than read this blog.

Ramzfan
  4/10/2017 10:19 EST

Are they legal? What will Mexico do if they catch them? Just because they do it doesn't make it right.

Ramzfan
  4/10/2017 10:33 EST

Settle down Gier...your hatred for DT is showing again. In the first place, DT used that rhetoric in his campaign. He knows better but when you're up against one of the worlds greatest liars, you do what you have to do. Yes, I believe that the majority of Mexicans coming over are good people. But we have a problem. They are ILLEGAL! Now I know for a fact, that the only reason the Dems want them here is for their illegal votes. If they truly want to make a better life for themselves, do the paperwork and come over legally. I have no problem with that. Hell, I love Mexicans! You notice though, that I am saying "Mexicans" and not the others that come through Mexico to get into our country.

MexJuan1
  4/10/2017 10:38 EST

OK. That "call out", I'll accept. I should have just said Politicians period. Anything to do with drugs, they won't touch. They just want to "war" on it. Any referendum on legalization is left up to the voters so they don't take a side on drugs. I should have said "political thinking" by Politicians who don't want to be associated with any form or fashion of supporting drugs. I'll take my medicine on that one...; -)

Ramzfan
  4/10/2017 10:41 EST

Hey Juan, we agree on something. Nice.

MexJuan1
  4/10/2017 10:42 EST

And wealthy Republican farmers and business owners want them there for cheap labor... I've seen that in action,first hand, in the landscape industry.

Ramzfan
  4/10/2017 10:49 EST

Why are the "wealthy farmers" all Republicans...? I can't argue with you on that, except to say that those who want to make a better life for themselves & their families will usually take risks to get ahead and will work harder & smarter to make those risks pay off.
Once they begin paying off, it's amazing how many of them become Republicans...!

MexJuan1
  4/10/2017 10:57 EST

Yes. I admit it when I make a mistake or I'm not 100% right. I hope you'll be able to do the same? Have seen little evidence of it, so far...

Ramzfan
  4/10/2017 11:01 EST

Juan, when I said that we agree on something, I was not being petty and talking about you taking the blame...I was talking about the drug problem in America and that we both look at it the same way.

giershift43
  4/10/2017 11:23 EST

Of course they are not legal when they are fleeing justice. This is not something done by the citizens of only one country. Again even before Trump starting his Wall, the policy was to deport undocumented that committed crimes and under the man you despise, there were a huge number of deportations. Numbers and discussion about it is out there and I subscribe to the IMS news website. The other thing the next flow of immigrants from Mexico was 0. That is as many people from here were going there as there to here. If our government wanted to reduce undocumented it could have encouraged the Mexican Government to do more to raise wages in Mexico. I have friends who are undocumented. As I learned the specifics about why they came without documents, it helped me understand. In Mexico it is very hard to get a passport. A person must have so much money in the bank and/or own land. So those struggling to get work and get desperate have no opportunity to do it legally. I know a family here that has been here 10 years and work at the same company. They are decent hard working people and are an asset to our country. There are people who are not, but that is true of our citizens as well. My grandparents came from Eastern Europe. We don't know if they were legal or not. The immigration system needs to be examined for serious and effective solution. Scapegoating one group and attributing social problems to them that are not quantified looks more like scapegoating as they did in Germany before WWII. So that is my take on it. I do not think that I can change your mind. But I do not think the Build the Wall and make them pay for it is based on anything but the desire to have a simple solution that also redirects our attention. Before we have a solution to a problem and careful analysis of it might be beneficial. There will be untoward side effects of the action that have not even been discussed. Slogans and cheers are not solutions. Only time will tell.

giershift43
  4/10/2017 11:28 EST

Mexjuan,
The emotion of the current geopolitical situation is working on us all. You care and feel strongly. It happens.

giershift43
  4/10/2017 11:46 EST

Saying we need analysis and planning instead of slogans is not hatred of DT. Sorry you take it that way. Blind defense of him. I also learned that Mexicans have little problem getting Mexican passports once they are here. It's a crazy situation and not only one party has responsibility.

giershift43
  4/10/2017 12:07 EST

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/03/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s

Is one website that tries to find facts. I am sure there are others.

giershift43
  4/10/2017 12:12 EST

I thought the conservative issue tended toward "law and Order" and defending those with money and blaming the poor. If that is not valid then help me learn how it is. What I wish for is looking at what we know, what we need to know and finding policies that are not ideological to the exclusion of what works. Of course there needs to be an ethical framework. Or we could do what the Philippines did and just let there be a bounty on anyone suspected of drug dealing and let the killing begin.

Ramzfan
  4/10/2017 12:21 EST

Gier, thought you had other things to do today?
First off, I want to commend you on your writing skills. Very nice to see someone who can communicate the way you do. Secondly, I want to say that I too have friends/acquaintances that are illegal. I talk to them all the time about becoming legal. Or even getting a green card. Most of them do not want to go through the hassle. And many of them DONT WANT TO BECOME CITIZENS. As I've said before, if a person wants something badly enough, they will find a way to get it. I will even help some of them, so that they don't get arrested. But they have to be willing to put in some effort. (And money) I know that they make enough money to be able to set aside 10% a month towards getting a green card and a passport. They don't seem to want to make the effort. Perhaps once they're deported and the wall is in place, they will think harder. Not trying to be hard-hearted here, just stating the facts of life.

giershift43
  4/10/2017 12:57 EST

For those who want more information about problems in immigration, you can subscribe to: https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/21-charged-fraudulently-enabling-hundreds-foreign-nationals-remain-us-through-fake- It is about a lot more than our southern border.
I do I have medical appointments today. Gee thanks your your concern!!

I have interests in a lot of areas. Economics, personal finance, but my graduate work was in social sciences. So I have invested my time energy and resources in those areas. I like learning more and gathering information. So yes I have opinions and work to support them with data and reasoned arguments. Bite me

Cozumeldeb
  4/10/2017 13:24 EST

Ramzfan + MexJuan, the US has exploited MX labor for over 100 yrs...Bringing them in for huge infrastructure projects for cheap labor then booting them out again and again..

nelsonokelmgmailcom
  4/10/2017 13:27 EST

Ramzfan You are totally deluded by the fake news on Faux news. Most of your statements below are TOTAL BS. Something that you seem to be a master at. I have included comments in CAPS

Settle down Gier...your hatred for DT is showing again. In the first place, DT used that rhetoric in his campaign. He knows better HE IS STILL USING THAT RHETORIC but when you're up against one of the worlds greatest liars, HILLERY IS NOT A LIAR. THAT IS THE KOOLAID THAT THE RETHUGLICANS HAVE BEEN SPEWING FOR THE LAST 8-9 YEARS. THE RETHUGS HAVE SLIMMED AND SLANDERED HER MERCILESSLY. IT IS LYING AND CHEATING. THE ONLY WAY THAT THEY CAN WIN. you do what you have to do. Yes, I believe that the majority of Mexicans coming over are good people. But we have a problem. They are ILLEGAL! Now I know for a fact, that the only reason the Dems want them here is for their illegal votes. MORE BS. RELIABLE STUDIES INDICATE THAT THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE OF ILLEGALS VOTING. T RUMPS CLAIM OF MILLIONS IT TOTALLY UNSUBSTANTIATED BS. If they truly want to make a better life for themselves, do the paperwork and come over legally. THE RETHUGS HAVE REFUSED TO DO COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM. IT IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO "DO THE PAPERWORK" I have no problem with that. Hell, I love Mexicans! You notice though, that I am saying "Mexicans" and not the others that come through Mexico to get into our country. THE "OTHERS" ARE FLEEING VIOLENCE AND HORRIBLE CONDITIONS. THEY QUALIFY FOR ASYLUM AND WOULD BE LEGAL TO REMAIN IF THE GOVERNMENT HAD THE NECESSARY RESOURCES TO PROCESS THEM.

You are a blowhard spewing ignorance and lies. Crawl back under your rock!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nelsonokelmgmailcom
  4/10/2017 13:29 EST

Cozumeldeb WELL SAID!!!

giershift43
  4/10/2017 15:13 EST

I don't think it's a coincidence that Fox news doesn't report on Black money and corruption and fraud by corporations. It is paid to blame the poor. They are powerless and can't fight back.

GigiB87
  4/10/2017 15:24 EST

Interesting that environmental considerations and capitalism don't have to be viewed as antagonists: just heard that Tesla just became most valuable car maker in US- 51 billion bucks.
But don't get the huge increase in California gas tax (43 cents/gallon I believe). Price already sky high. Don't live there anymore but when lived on the Ca. border with Arizona everyone who wasn't passing through would leave Needles and drive across Colorado river into Arizona where gas was $1/gallon less. Lo siento, odiosados, que no discutia problemas mejicanas ( es odiosados una palabra?) y nuestro protagonista, la naranja grande.

Plumeau1
  4/10/2017 17:40 EST

Wow...you guys, do not have much to do in a day to keep that topic alive, it's been ongoing since the election result were decided, you should create your own little blog and let expat exchange keep on doing what it does best, IAM getting completely fed-up,
Mister Moderator or Mrs. Moderator...anything you can do ???

Plumeau1
  4/10/2017 17:40 EST

Wow...you guys, do not have much to do in a day to keep that topic alive, it's been ongoing since the election result were decided, you should create your own little blog and let expat exchange keep on doing what it does best, IAM getting completely fed-up,
Mister Moderator or Mrs. Moderator...anything you can do ???

Plumeau1
  4/10/2017 17:40 EST

Wow...you guys, do not have much to do in a day to keep that topic alive, it's been ongoing since the election result were decided, you should create your own little blog and let expat exchange keep on doing what it does best, IAM getting completely fed-up,
Mister Moderator or Mrs. Moderator...anything you can do ???

lindaceleste
  4/10/2017 17:54 EST

I second that request.

GigiB87
  4/10/2017 18:03 EST

Me too! My god,what are we doing to attract all these angry unidentified females. Bill O'Reilly fans, anarchist hit squad? God only knows. Where is that moderator, this thread must be the opiate of EE. Can you third something?

MexJuan1
  4/10/2017 18:05 EST

Forum:
synonyms: meeting, assembly, gathering, rally, conference, seminar, convention, symposium, colloquium, caucus; informal get-together; formal colloquy
"forums were held for staff to air grievances"
setting, place, scene, context, stage, framework, backdrop;
medium, means, apparatus, auspices
"a forum for discussion"
Mexico and the state of affairs in Mexico for the country, it's ppl and those of us expats who have chosen to live here have been a part of this for a year and a half or more. Mexico has been the subject of the angst and ire of the new American administration from the start and will remain so in one form or another, possibly, effecting those of us who chose to live here in a deleterious manner. The subject and conversation, like it or not, is pertinent. You've aired your grievance which is your right. I'm, fairly, certain that you can delete the emails once seeing the subject. I believe that Americans living in this particular country under these particular circumstances should remain aware and informed. Like any "hot button" issue, it gets a little overheated at times and off point. I don't care for that part of it either so, I just delete...

GigiB87
  4/10/2017 18:10 EST

I'm sorry, I know its immature, but I really get a kick out of these indignant responses. I know conservatives are big on letting the market decide almost everything, except...... Yeah, exactly.

lindaceleste
  4/10/2017 18:17 EST

MexJuan- You're POV is understood. However, many posts have gone far afield of thread title and personal gibes detract from proposed collegiality of the forum's intent.

Ramzfan
  4/10/2017 18:19 EST

I agree with you 100% Gigi, though not for the reasons you might hope for. California is the most liberal state (except for NY) in the union. Taxes there are never a surprise. I live in Nevada because I moved out of California 30 years ago. I love Mexico and the Mexican people. I won't pay CA gas prices unless I'm forced to,. If there's a way, the smart people will figure out how to beat it...!

giershift43
  4/10/2017 18:22 EST

The conversation reflects divides in our nation. The election did not end that. It underscored it. There is also a cloud over this last election as interference continues to be investigated.
Sadly there is serious worry about the destabilization of the world and increasing war clouds. I usually disrupt my personal concerns with work which I still do. Unfortunately, I'm not able to for a bit. And when I work, I am in the middle of the problems of people effected by policies of our society. Many are afraid. This election is the first time in my 43 years of social work that the agency sent up guidelines for helping reduce post election anxiety. There I have to be calm and reassuring and use every tool I can to help us. WE a NOT in normal times.

Ramzfan
  4/10/2017 18:25 EST

Interesting that you chipped in plum. Just because YOU have no interest, doesn't mean that all of us have to stop. Try finding a different topic...!

GigiB87
  4/10/2017 18:27 EST

RZ I left too. Don't think I disagree with you on everything, although Rams have been a bit of a lost cause since Greatest Show on Turf. Born in LA. Don't follow liberal path on everything. But AO is just way, way too over the top for me. We all have family members we don't agree with and conservatives ( or liberals) we like and liberals ( or conservatives) we can't stand. No?

Ramzfan
  4/10/2017 18:29 EST

Keep on deleting, if that what suits you...you're a typical liberal...!

Ramzfan
  4/10/2017 18:29 EST

Keep on deleting, if that what suits you...you're a typical liberal...!

giershift43
  4/10/2017 18:31 EST

The conversation reflects divides in our nation. The election did not end that. It underscored it. There is also a cloud over this last election as interference continues to be investigated.
Sadly there is serious worry about the destabilization of the world and increasing war clouds. I usually disrupt my personal concerns with work which I still do. Unfortunately, I'm not able to for a bit. And when I work, I am in the
middle of the problems of people effected by policies of our society.
Many are afraid. This election is the firs
t time in my 43 years of social work that the agency sent up guidelines for helping reduce post election anxiety.


There I have to be calm and reassuring and use every tool I can to help us. WE a NOT in normal times.

giershift43
  4/10/2017 18:33 EST

I do not see MexJuan as the problem.

GigiB87
  4/10/2017 18:36 EST

Thanks, GS. You are absolutely correct. We don't agree 100% No one does, but it is possible to be - or try to be -classy, respectful, objective and open minded. Not that I am exactly the role model for that description. Nor is you know who......

giershift43
  4/10/2017 18:37 EST

Today: On Monday, the committee held an open hearing on the subject, with FBI Director James Comey and National Security Agency Director Mike Rogers both appearing as witnesses.

In the hearing, Comey confirmed that the FBI is investigating possible coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia’s attempts to influence the election. President Trump’s unsubstantiated allegations that he was wiretapped by then-President Barack Obama also came up for discussion, with both Comey and Rogers saying there’s no evidence of any such surveillance.

And the desire to continue to liberate the neediest of the country by cutting the social safety net is not going to quiet people. I already see people already struggling with hard choices and few options. Being told again in this thread that I'm not like other liberals is like same I am not like other ______ , so prejudiced that the people who rely on this belief system don't know they are prejudiced.

giershift43
  4/10/2017 19:48 EST

Alcohol addiction is a bigger problem and with social pressure to drink harder to stop.

My view is the higher penalties for drug dealers just raises prices and makes the drug dealers more ruthless. Just pointless. It is not conclusive that the death penalty is a deterrent. Mandatory sentences aren't. There needs to be a wider use of it not for all, but for addictions in general as a medical problems. I have treated individuals who have successfully recovered. I also have 2 friends from my youth. Who entered recovery for alcohol and have 35 or more years of sobriety. They subsequently did well in life. Those people do not get continued attention. Not news worthy. People do not generally advertise that they are in recovery. But if someone overdoses it makes the news. I do some contract work for TRICare. I do some quality review. They have started to recognize that punishing people does not help. Increase emphasis on identification and treatment. But the world I work in is not what most people are familiar. We use to beat the evil spirits out of the mentally ill or blame birth defects on sins of the parents. Science and knowledge need to be valued.

giershift43
  4/10/2017 19:52 EST

Mexjuan, I think you are just O.K.!!
And wouldn't it be great if we all could be?

giershift43
  4/10/2017 20:09 EST

Today's news:
Washington Post reporter David Fahrenthold, whom President Donald Trump called a “nasty guy” for doggedly investigating his dubious charity foundation claims, won the Pulitzer Prize on Monday for national reporting.

Fahrenthold not only pored over documents and called hundreds of organizations while reporting on the president’s charitable foundation during the 2016 campaign, but he brought readers real-time social media updates and turned to them for additional tips. In October, Fahrenthold also broke the news that Trump boasted about groping women in an unearthed “Access Hollywood” outtake.

GigiB87
  4/10/2017 20:24 EST

If you said that the death penalty, in your professional opinion, is not
an effective deterrent I would probably agree. And raising the price effectively and sufficiently will effect anything, although the demand for addictive is inelastic, does not respond well to price changes, at least upwards. It is also important to consider the existence of substitutes, meth for crack, oxys for heroin, Listerine for booze, etc. Just examples off the top of my head, only one I have seen recently is homeless drinking listerine. We can debate forever but you need to testify and lobby your own state legislature, if you haven't already. I support everything we can do to help addicts but have been lied to, preyed upon and stolen from by too many to have as much sympathy as some. But I would probably vote with you so I am the wrong person to lobby and I will leave further responses to others.

MexJuan1
  4/10/2017 20:28 EST

You are, absolutely, right and I couldn't agree more. I attempt to stay on point and relevant and want to be informative and helpful. I've, probably, been called more names and reviled for factual exposures than anyone. At the same time, I, probably, am not, totally, innocent of over expressing my opinions and getting my heart too involved. It's difficult when ppl just ignore facts and truths. It's easier to not care but, I'm not built that way. And I've never stopped answering what questions I could in helping someone with their move to this fantastic country if I had knowledge or information that could help them.

giershift43
  4/10/2017 20:39 EST

Who is deleting?? But you sure are into stereotypes.

GigiB87
  4/10/2017 20:42 EST

Just to finish up, I don't think (know) meth isn't generally used by long time crack users as a substitute. It is substituted by populations. Heroin epidemic boomed due to cheap Mexican black tar heroin, at least around here. There are needles lying in the street everywhere. I have known many who sell their methadone to buy heroin and crack. And there is a violent crime epidemic in Albuquerque. I live in the center of it right now. Everyone has an opinion about why people are dying and those of us who care sedate ourselves,. worry endlessly and pray. Or finally just leave. Good night.

MexJuan1
  4/10/2017 20:44 EST

My last post was directed in response to lindaceleste BTW. I was taking my "old man, late afternoon nap" after my daily, long, afternoon walk, so, it took me a while to get back to you. Sorry

MexJuan1
  4/10/2017 20:50 EST

Hey. Take care of yourself Gigi. You matter and I've always appreciated your input... I have a personal connection to this sickness too. My, only, brother (I am the oldest of 7 with 5 sisters) died with a needle in his arm 14 years ago.

giershift43
  4/10/2017 20:51 EST

More news today:
Palm Beach County, the location of President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort, wants to make Trump reach into his own pocket to pay for his security detail. Commissioners have suggested that a special tax be placed against the property, unless the federal government reimburses the costs.

giershift43
  4/10/2017 20:55 EST

And drug addiction has been around a long time.

I remember years ago when T.s And B.s were the substitutes. I worked a couple of years in a city ER. That was one piece of my education.. The lengths those addicted will go to get what they crave is long. Alcoholics drinking wood alcohol if nothing else available. Whatever we are doing is not working.

giershift43
  4/10/2017 21:08 EST

I thought when I retired that I would a lot more advocacy in general. I didn't know my health would be so much of a problem. Fatigue and pain have been with me for 35 years, but getting older has not helped. And yes, I worked sick and stuck it out as long as I could and that is what liberals do. I took care of my aging parents. They never went to a nursing. home that is also what liberals do.. For those who have some preconceived stereotype. And my husband dying of cancer lived at home until he died. I worked all day and came home to my kids and my sick husband and had my own chronic health problems... That is what this liberal did. And after I advocating for persons with disabilities including sitting on the Ohio DD council for 5 years. That is what this liberal did. I am tired of some Fox news brain washed one dimensional thinker telling me about what liberals are. When my husband died. I invested in real estate to help replace the lost income. Because that is what liberals do too. ... Whew there is my tirade for today.. And my Daddy didn't loan me a million dollars. I had to earn my money. That is what liberals do!!

giershift43
  4/10/2017 21:11 EST

One more thing, I am prochoice; but adopted a child. Because that is what liberals do.

lindaceleste
  4/10/2017 22:20 EST

MexJuan - I understood your reply. I am currently in Oaxaca (staying as far away from tourist zones as possible) and will be here for another six weeks. People have been incredibly kind to me. Conversation re: Trump administration is generally "how did that happen? " The only anti-US sentiment I have encountered is a handbill posted in La Noria neighborhood urging people to "buy Mexican, not US products. "(Sounds oddly familiar! ) I tried to attach a photo of the notice but the email kicked back.

lindaceleste
  4/10/2017 22:20 EST

MexJuan - I understood your reply. I am currently in Oaxaca (staying as far away from tourist zones as possible) and will be here for another six weeks. People have been incredibly kind to me. Conversation re: Trump administration is generally "how did that happen? " The only anti-US sentiment I have encountered is a handbill posted in La Noria neighborhood urging people to "buy Mexican, not US products. "(Sounds oddly familiar! ) I tried to attach a photo of the notice but the email kicked back.

giershift43
  4/11/2017 11:15 EST

GiGiB,
Good write!

GigiB87
  4/11/2017 13:35 EST

Thanks GS, I have come to respect and appreviate your opinion.

GigiB87
  4/11/2017 13:41 EST

Ditto to Juan!

GigiB87
  4/11/2017 13:55 EST

Although I think if we become too agreeable it may kill this thread. But so much in news-I love GS daily summations-that remind me of a professional wrestling event just discussing them should keep it and irate responses going. In summation, not a lot of discussion about AO on street here either but it is often because topic is so sensitive no one wants to start a fight. And here people have guns and will shoot you! Yeah,no sh.... In Oaxaca you have to get out of town and visit marijuana grows ( not sure, maybe also heroin production out there now as well) to guarantee a bad outcome.

GigiB87
  4/11/2017 13:56 EST

Although I think if we become too agreeable it may kill this thread. But so much in news-I love GS daily summations-that remind me of a professional wrestling event just discussing them should keep it and irate responses going. In summation, not a lot of discussion about AO on street here either but it is often because topic is so sensitive no one wants to start a fight. And here people have guns and will shoot you! Yeah,no sh.... In Oaxaca you have to get out of town and visit marijuana grows ( not sure, maybe also heroin production out there now as well) to guarantee a bad outcome.

Ramzfan
  4/11/2017 13:59 EST

Gigi, what does AO stand for?

GigiB87
  4/11/2017 14:07 EST

El agente de color naranja. Don't mean to be disrespectful to you, but to him....hell yeah!

MexJuan1
  4/11/2017 14:11 EST

True that!!! Before leaving Ohio, due to Concealed Carry and such relaxed gun laws, crime on persons and racial issues and anger in the country, I kept to myself, period! I expressed zero anger behind the wheel, watched my surroundings in Convenient Stores, Banks, etc and stayed vigilant around my home, adding locks on doors, making sure to be well lit up at night. Stayed clear of talking Politics, even with family (Ohio, historically, being a Republican State) I am so much more relaxed here in PDC, not driving, walking/biking around just about anywhere, eating at a restaurant. Too old for "clubbing" and don't drink or do drugs (dont smoke either) so I stay clear of that scene. If someone, a local, wants to mention politics, I keep it general, not tipping my hand, remain agreeable as I am anyway to their concerns and make attempts to get off the subject. I feel much safer here than I did in Ohio, even though I lived in a safe neighborhood, there was some crime. Definitely in the city. And the drug problem and guns were everywhere"!

MexJuan1
  4/11/2017 14:15 EST

Most all family and friends were "gun toters" and CCW Advocates. Me, being, sometimes, the sole person totally against guns, I just kept my mouth shut so as not to engage in any useless discussions/arguments.

giershift43
  4/11/2017 14:24 EST

Even though I occasionally go into a rant. Thanks. Where in Mexico do you think about living?

GigiB87
  4/11/2017 14:33 EST

Me? Have considered Baja and Yucatan. But am thinking about heading down to Peru, although Lima sounds almost as bad. (pollution, crime, congestion) as Mexico City, and checking it out and heading to Bolivia. Want a few more adventures while still can. BF is in sync with me on this, although travel on a limited budget can strain any relation. Well, off to store (Smiths).

giershift43
  4/11/2017 14:55 EST

Oaxaca how about visit coffee growers instead . Great coffee and chocolate, best yet toasted chocolate covered coffee beans.

giershift43
  4/11/2017 15:03 EST

I saw the following post today: Trump could have done more damage to that airfield , if he bought it and ran it like a business.

GigiB87
  4/11/2017 15:08 EST

Been there twice and visited a bunch of these little towns that specialized in various crafts. Mystified local children with 'magic' when I stood outside car and pointed at window while friend surrepititiously used switch to make power windows go up and down ( long time ago). Saw same stuff sold in Guatemala as 'local' and hung around town square drinking coffee. Explained to them afterwards about power windows. Young black hippy was arrested and imprisoned, reportedly for taking LSD and disrobing ( entirely) and jumping in Zocalo fountain. Quite an adventure.

GigiB87
  4/11/2017 15:09 EST

Been there twice and visited a bunch of these little towns that specialized in various crafts. Mystified local children with 'magic' when I stood outside car and pointed at window while friend surrepititiously used switch to make power windows go up and down ( long time ago). Saw same stuff sold in Guatemala as 'local' and hung around town square drinking coffee. Explained to them afterwards about power windows. Young black hippy was arrested and imprisoned, reportedly for taking LSD and disrobing ( entirely) and jumping in Zocalo fountain. Quite an adventure.

giershift43
  4/11/2017 15:21 EST

Sounds like a riot. What year were you there?

GigiB87
  4/11/2017 16:18 EST

Mid seventies. Twice, drove from Eugene once.

GigiB87
  4/11/2017 16:44 EST

Ended up in Mazatlan headed back broke with bald tires so we slept on beach (on tables under these shelters roofed with palm fronds to avoid big crabs coming out at night) and made friends with this kid (young man) from PR who helped us sell the air conditioner from car at junkyard for needed,$.
Juan, what you said makes me think of that Pretenders song about Ohio which seems more pertinent now than ever.

GigiB87
  4/11/2017 17:40 EST

Just FYI GS, this was a long time ago. I was very young and immature. Had some very painful experiences and some great ones and did a lot of dumb things but never, ever felt in physical danger in Mexico back then. Also visited Mitla.

GigiB87
  4/11/2017 18:08 EST

GS, last post today, I promise.. Never felt danger, except parts of Mexico City. Uncomfortable at times from unwanted attention, yes.

giershift43
  4/11/2017 18:29 EST

I did not get a chance to travel much when I was young. I went to Oaxaca in 2013. The. Cancun last year then lake chapalA this year. I love lake chapala area and would like to move there. I like OAxaca, but not enough English speaking people.

giershift43
  4/11/2017 18:33 EST

You had an adventuresome youth.

Cozumeldeb
  4/11/2017 19:28 EST

Hola from Cozumel/QRoo/Yucatan for years, but many wonderful places in MX, live on social security in most places..Suggest u avoid Baja, cartel/narco problems growing fast..

MexJuan1
  4/11/2017 19:38 EST

I'd agree with the latter for sure! I live on SS check in PDC, travel and save money from my check every month. Nice apartments, furnished and equipped at very reasonable rental rates, inexpensive Public Transportation, most necessities withing walking distance, eating out (great food) for next to nothing, friendly locals and safe. Cancun airport 45 minutes away on an inexpensive and very comfortable bus ride. Great beaches both local and tourist. Cozumel Ferry and Cozumel a nice added attraction for a day or weekend excursion too! Great place to live.

Ramzfan
  4/11/2017 20:36 EST

If you're older, like I am, Chapala or Ajijic are just perfect.

GigiB87
  4/12/2017 12:46 EST

Just saw a book I probably will buy new, rather than wait 4 used/paperback.
Jan Mayer:
Dark Money: The hidden history of the Billionaires behind the rest of the radical right.
Is any of this unfortunate phenomena pertinent to Mexican politics?
(Guess if you live down there may want to moderate comments, not trying to create problems. Just trying to relate to Mexico to avoid imbecilic ravings. But then thought about that potential problem as I was writing it.)

giershift43
  4/12/2017 13:22 EST

You will never hear them exposed on Fox news. They just bash and scapegoat the poor in favor of the rich even the crooked rich.

MexJuan1
  4/12/2017 13:33 EST

"The FBI obtained a secret court order to monitor communications from former Trump adviser Carter Page in summer 2016, according to law enforcement and intelligence officials. (The Washington Post)
The FBI obtained a secret court order last summer to monitor the communications of an adviser to presidential candidate Donald Trump, part of an investigation into possible links between Russia and the campaign, law enforcement and other U.S. officials said.

The FBI and the Justice Department obtained the warrant targeting Carter Page’s communications after convincing a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court judge that there was probable cause to believe Page was acting as an agent of a foreign power, in this case Russia, according to the officials.

This is the clearest evidence so far that the FBI had reason to believe during the 2016 presidential campaign that a Trump campaign adviser was in touch with Russian agents. Such contacts are now at the center of an investigation into whether the campaign coordinated with the Russian government to swing the election in Trump’s favor."

Uh oh! Not looking good for the trumpster... FISA Warrant=Not Good

giershift43
  4/12/2017 13:58 EST

Mexjuan,
I am following it as well.
DT's followers have been compared to those at Jonestown. If anything he says is true, the it's all true and they keep following. Cult like.

MexJuan1
  4/12/2017 14:02 EST

That's all well and good for them but, facts are facts and a FISA Court Order is some serious business...

giershift43
  4/12/2017 14:06 EST

From the Economist:
‘America’s CEO is out of his depth. The art of political compromise is new to him. He blurs his own interests and the interests of the nation. The scrutiny of office grates. He chafes under the limitations of being the most powerful man in the world. You have only to follow his incontinent stream of tweets to grasp Mr. Trump’s paranoia and vanity: the press lies about him; the election result fraudulently omitted millions of votes for him; the intelligence services are disloyal; his predecessor tapped his phones. It’s neither pretty nor presidential.’

giershift43
  4/12/2017 14:29 EST

I was not suggesting that FISA was not serious. I have been watching the many connections between the Trump campaign and Russian connections. Let's hope it finds the facts and makes them public.

GigiB87
  4/12/2017 16:39 EST

From what I have been reading, maybe Ivanka should be Secty. of State and conducting our foreign policy.

GigiB87
  4/12/2017 16:50 EST

I get there are reasons to flee California. I like it's liberal leanings but it also spawned Reagan and periodically swings Republican just like the US. Also a top 10 economy if a country and, and this is what I am getting to, met its goal of producing almost 1/2 state's electricity from large scale solar power plants for 3 hours on March 11. Governor Brown no longer Gov. Moonbeam, but savvy and prescient, IMO.

giershift43
  4/12/2017 17:02 EST

It sounds like she already is and selling jewelry at the same time.

giershift43
  4/12/2017 19:59 EST

Excerpt from the news:
MEXICO CITY (AP) — Mexico is mobilizing to resist President Donald Trump's policies in ways that range from the sensible to the strange.

Mexican negotiators are hammering out a trade deal with Europe in a bid to reduce reliance on U.S. markets following Trump's pledge to renegotiate the North American Free Trade Agreement and his efforts to stop companies from moving U.S. plants south of the border. The U.S. receives three-quarters of Mexico's exports and supplies half its imports.

Faced with the U.S. president's anti-immigrant stance, Mexico has set up workshops and hotlines to educate migrants about their rights in the face of deportations, though those have actually have fallen about 13 percent since Trump took offic

Ramzfan
  4/12/2017 20:16 EST

Just gotta hate those damn billionaires, Gigi...those SOB's have all that money. Who cares if they earned or it? They HAVE it, that's what counts! They never gave ME any of it! I worked my ass off all my life as a ( pick one) School Teacher, Postman, Nurse, Counceler, etc. and I never made a million! What did I do wrong? Just because I saved my money and never took a risk in life doesn't mean I shouldn't be rich. Just because they pay 90% of the U.S.'s taxes, doesn't mean I shouldn't hate them! Damn, I wish the U. S. was a Socialist country...damn Capitalism....!

GigiB87
  4/12/2017 20:21 EST

Don't hate all billionaires, or all conservatives, liberals, whatever.... Wasn't I lauding Elon Musk recently? Have less respect in general for some of those born on third base who thought they'd hit a triple. Or who use unearned fortunes to support ill advised
poorly conceived political machinations.

giershift43
  4/12/2017 20:38 EST

Gigib explains it well. Also those who have honestly contributed and made money is worthy of admiration. Having money does not mean greater morality nor intelligence. But in recent years no matter how muscular they have it does not seem
To be enough and blaming all problems on those who are not rich is false. It is easy to bash the relatively poor and powerless. There had once been an ethos that the more you are given the more you owe. Contributing to the betterment of your country was part of what was the right thing to do. Caring about others was not called a liberal conspiracy. And crime and corruption are found in all classes of society. Address the issues with facts and truth.

giershift43
  4/12/2017 20:43 EST

Capitalism works fine in some segments of the economy , but not all. It is an abysmal failure in health insurance , prisons ( still paid for with public money) and for profit schools. It's fine for the production of goods . Our military is collectively funded so are roads and police. There is no pure capitalism. And you
Misspelled councilor. It is counselor.

Ramzfan
  4/12/2017 20:43 EST

Gier, it's because they've been helpless for the past eight years while Obama and his sheep ran wild. Hell yes, they're willing to follow him!

GigiB87
  4/12/2017 20:44 EST

So if it doesn't matter whether I earned it or not can I access your bank account and transfer your hard earned savings into mine? Hypothetically, of course. You must admire the Mexican cartels. Maybe they can offer you some work.

Ramzfan
  4/12/2017 20:53 EST

"You have only to follow his incontinent stream of tweets to grasp Mr. Trump's paranoia and vanity" Gier, what has he been paranoid about? Where has he been wrong? EVERYTHING that DJT has tweeted has proved to be true. THATS what bothers the libs...!

GigiB87
  4/12/2017 21:03 EST

My last post was a little over the top. Sorry. Personally, the problem does not lie with capitalism or socialism. Both exist in our healthcare system, (Medicare, Indian Health System, VA) by the way. The problem is devising a fair and equitable regulatory system to minimize corruption and exploitation. The profit motive can be very useful for innovation and technological debelopment, but without adequate monitoring you have a-holes who charge exponentially more for a medical device used to save children's lives. Socialist programs suffer from similar weaknesses. These structures need to be analyzed in more depth to really see where the theft, exploitation and general corruption really come from.

And to AO,Hail Hydra!!!! (Nerdy, immature comic book reference.)

giershift43
  4/12/2017 21:58 EST

Ram, I did not write the article. I quoted it from the Economist magazine. But saying that Obama was wire tapping Trump Tower was a baseless claim. That for one. I found Obama brilliant, not perfect. But I did well during his administration including my investments. I do tend to see you as ignoring a lot of information that discredits Trump. But not my problem.

giershift43
  4/12/2017 22:01 EST

Gigib, your fine. You work to me reasonable and are thoughtful. You are sincere.

Ramzfan
  4/12/2017 22:16 EST

Gier, "wiretapping" and "bugging" are basically the same thing. It now is coming to light, although Susan Rice continues to say she was authorized to do so.. The Bottom line is that I continue to believe most everything DJT says and you don't. That's why we're different. Nothing wrong with that, except we'll never be able to agree on anything political.
You thought Obama was brilliant, I did too. He bamboozled the world and made them believe he was an American citizen. It takes a very brilliant person to do that. Liberals followed him like he was the Pied Piper. I continue to believe though, that this will all come to light and be proven in my lifetime. Cheers

giershift43
  4/12/2017 22:23 EST

Ram, did you pay attention to the news today ? No impropriety found in the FISA regarding Carter. No evidence of any improper surveillance . None zip as reviewed by both parties and that includes Rice's role.

giershift43
  4/12/2017 22:29 EST

Flynn, Carter Page and Manifort all are found having ties to Russia. Now manifort is retroactively registering as a foreign agent? All Trumps men. It looks more than a little suspicious.
By the way, I know you will love this, I was an alternate delegate pledged to Obama in 2008. I attended the local caucus and won the alternate position. So if you want reasons to hate me, here's one more.

Ramzfan
  4/12/2017 22:33 EST

I hadn't seen that. It seems to me though that Trumps original tweet said something to the effect of "Obama had been tapping my phones in Trump Tower during the campaign." I don't know the exact wording, but I don't recall him mentioning "proper" or "improper" surveillance?

giershift43
  4/12/2017 22:55 EST

First Trump said he was witetapped. Then he changed it to meaning some general term for surveillance. When the Russian connection would come up, he and his surrogates tried to say the real
Story is Obama and his paper surveillance of Trump tower. No evidence of any such thing has been provided. The records that Nunes said he saw were they reviewed by the investigating congressional committee this week and no evidence that supports Nunes or Trumps claims were found You can look it up in news on the net. It is likely still out there. Pick Amy source you want.

giershift43
  4/13/2017 08:45 EST

From the news today:
"Even though former Trump campaign chairman and foreign agent Paul Manafort resigned from the president’s team last year, his financial connections to Donald Trump were far from over.

According to a new report from The New York Times, the same day Manafort stepped down as campaign chairman, he was hard at work “creating a shell company … that soon received $13 million in loans from two businesses with ties to Mr. Trump, including one that partners with a Ukrainian-born billionaire and another led by a Trump economic adviser.”

MexJuan1
  4/13/2017 09:09 EST

I see the Exchange was busy last night! I was busy too... Most comments relevant and true, expect for the "Cult Follower's" totally debunked, disproven delusions. Dangerous ppl in our midst. But, totally irrelevant. Anyway, I think that there is one, and only one, hope for this sham presidency to, in part, succeed in some ridiculous manner that would still lead to WAR. Bannon, Miller and Spicer need to go. Conway has become irrelevant and may quit anyway. The "adults" in the room, led by H.R. McMaster need to take over and my hopes for DJT's removal due to collusion with Russia still stand and are looking stronger every day! Big article yesterday about Mexican Govt. Officials meeting in Mexico City to talk about dealing more with Europe etc in foresight of trump leaving NAFTA in the wind. Among his other Anti Mexico policies. I hope this country sticks it to him but good! Just wonder where and how that will leave us Expats? Anyone read that article?

Cozumeldeb
  4/13/2017 10:56 EST

It was announced yesterday there were 3 FISA warrants, but only Page named so far, big speculation on other 2..I'm thinking Manafort + Flynn..IMO, I think Manafort is the big fish, and FBI is baiting the hook for who rolls first..They need to hurry this process along..

MexJuan1
  4/13/2017 11:00 EST

Takes time to get the case effective. Good things are worth waiting for... And I'm thinking, this is going to be REALLY GOOD!!!

giershift43
  4/13/2017 11:00 EST

Britain’s spy agencies played a crucial role in alerting their counterparts in Washington to contacts between members of Donald Trump’s campaign team and Russian intelligence operatives, the Guardian has been told.
Article today on the Russian connection:
GCHQ first became aware in late 2015 of suspicious “interactions” between figures connected to Trump and known or suspected Russian agents, a source close to UK intelligence said. This intelligence was passed to the US as part of a routine exchange of information, they added.

Over the next six months, until summer 2016, a number of western agencies shared further information on contacts between Trump’s inner circle and Russians, sources said.

giershift43
  4/13/2017 11:02 EST

The analogy to the Jonestown cult followers and Trump followers can be found on NPR, the discounting of lies if there is even one truth in many statements. Not my idea, but their arguments seemed reasonable.

Ramzfan
  4/13/2017 11:27 EST

Gier, Gier, Gier....you had me going for awhile, but then I decided to Google what "the Guardian" actually is. According to what I read, the Guardian is a "far left, liberal-leaning publication that caters to those with a liberal appetite". Thanks, but no thanks. I believe in reading articles from both sides of the media stream. (Although it's tough to find both sides)
At least now, I know what to expect from another British publication.

MexJuan1
  4/13/2017 11:35 EST

Just saw a report the he will spend (the tax payers $$$ he cares sooooo much about) more in travel in one year than Obama did in 8 years. Palm Beach County is looking to rezone Mar a Lago to mitigate huge cost to them. Besides the FACT that taking anyone to a "business" that he owns, thus promoting it while "serving" as president, is ILLEGAL. GAO INVESTIGATING. MOST CORRUPT president IN HISTORY! HANDS DOWN... He's like a rich college kid on a "Bender" on Daddy's money.

giershift43
  4/13/2017 11:36 EST

The idea that liberal leaning means not true is your bias taught by Fox. But I got it from more than one source and watching CNN. Not exclusive to one source. Not trying to get you.

giershift43
  4/13/2017 11:38 EST

(CNN)Paul Manafort's lawyers have been in discussions with the Justice Department and he is expected to register as a foreign agent in a bid to resolve questions about his past work for Ukraine, according to sources briefed on the talks.

Manafort and his lobbying firm have been under FBI and Justice Department scrutiny as part of a broader anti-corruption probe of the former Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych.

giershift43
  4/13/2017 11:40 EST

This was under FOX news:
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump's former campaign chairman Paul Manafort will register with the Justice Department as a foreign agent for lobbying work he did on behalf of political interests in Ukraine, led at the time by a pro-Russian political party, his spokesman said Wednesday.


Manafort is the second Trump campaign adviser to have to register as a foreign agent since the election. The confirmation that he intends to register comes as the Trump administration has been facing heavy scrutiny over the foreign ties of former campaign advisers and other Trump associates.

By registering retroactively, Manafort will be acknowledging that he failed to properly disclose his work to the Justice Departmen

giershift43
  4/13/2017 11:48 EST

Mexjuan,
I have been following this story as well.

Ramzfan
  4/13/2017 11:49 EST

That's why he's a "former" campaign advisor. Where's the news...?

giershift43
  4/13/2017 11:54 EST

Everyone who does not agree with you is not lying just because you do not like what they find. But the article explains why Trump began attacking our long standing ally of the U.K.

None of us know how this will turn out, but if Hillary being under investigation disqualified her (I am not Hillary fan) then let's be consistent.

MexJuan1
  4/13/2017 11:59 EST

Let me be clear on that as well. NOT a Hillary fan either. I think the Dem. Nomination was stolen from Bernie or he gave it up for a "deal" or the Greater Good but, I would have voted for him. The way it was scammed though, I think trump was The Manchurian Candidate and wouldn't/couldn't have been beaten.

Ramzfan
  4/13/2017 12:05 EST

Juan, be careful...the venom you're spewing could possibly get into the eyes of some level-headed people. How about posting the name of where you hear/read some of this propaganda that you like to spout? It would be nearly IMPOSSIBLE for DJT to spend more than your hero Obama on travel...! And to say that a man who won't even accept a salary for what he's doing, a man who has already got everything anyone could want, is "acting like a rich college kid on a bender with somebody else's money" is just an example of pure liberal ignorance!

MexJuan1
  4/13/2017 12:09 EST

Not with standing your name calling. All true, all fact. I know, both strangers to you...

giershift43
  4/13/2017 12:16 EST

MexJuan, I agree with you about Bernie having the nomination stolen. I still write letters to my senator saying so and to end the Superdelegate system.

Today among the list of Trumps reversals is: 7. The administration is already watering down its lobbyist ban. High on the list of Trump’s promises in his “Contract with the American Voter,” released last October, was an ironclad “five-year ban” on White House officials becoming lobbyists after they leave the government. Bloomberg reported yesterday that the administration has “granted a waiver” so that senior White House budget adviser Marcus Peacock can leave to take a job as a top lobbyist for the Business Roundtable, even though he signed an ethics pledge that included the five-year ban. JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon chairs the Business Roundtable. He’d been a favorite of the Obama White House, and he’s looking for ways to increase his juice with Trump. (so much for draining the swamp)

giershift43
  4/13/2017 12:18 EST

Huge difference between what DTrump Says and does. Nato is now Good and our military really isn't in bad shape.
He just says whatever and knowledge may develop later. But his list of reversals is growing.

giershift43
  4/13/2017 12:24 EST

Ram, I agree with Juan.
I see you as having drunk the cool aid.

Again who is this liberal that lies for what evil purpose. I am proud to be a liberal, open minded and desire to find facts over dogma and theories that are not facts.

giershift43
  4/13/2017 12:28 EST

Downside of air strike:

WASHINGTON — An airstrike by the American-led coalition fighting the Islamic State killed 18 Syrian fighters allied with the United States, the military said on Thursday.

The strike, on Tuesday in Tabqah, Syria, was the third time in a month that American-led airstrikes may have killed civilians or allies, and it comes even as the Pentagon is investigating two previous airstrikes that killed or wounded scores of civilians in a mosque complex in Syria and in a building in the west of Mosul, Iraq.

giershift43
  4/13/2017 12:33 EST

I just read this and could not resist:
Of all of this, Fox News host Tucker Carlson asked Ann Coulter, “What should people who supported the President, in the beginning, think of what’s happened in the last week?”

Coulter’s response was truly mind-boggling.

She spoke ostensibly on behalf of the Trump supporters who have broken with the President over his Syria strike. Many such individuals have broken with Trump on account of the military intervention being nothing more than “starting a pointless war.” Ironically, these people may have at least somewhat of a point, seeing as nothing substantively positive has come of the Syria strike.

giershift43
  4/13/2017 12:38 EST

Consequences are not always intended. This is going to be expensive and have long term untoward side effects:
As President Donald Trump moves to expand deportations of undocumented immigrants, a team of rapid-response social workers in Los Angeles is hoping it can come to the aid of children who may be left behind or endangered by immigration enforcement actions.

The Los Angeles County Department of Children and Family Services’ Multi-Agency Response Team, known as MART, has been sending specially trained social workers to the scenes of law enforcement busts for years. It now hopes to work alongside Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), the federal agency tasked with enforcing immigration law, so that social workers will be present in the event that children are involved when agents make arrests.

MART often works with law enforcement agencies including the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD), the county’s Sheriff’s Department and the Federal Bureau of Investigations (FBI). When children are involved, the team is there to shield them from dangerous situations and helps find them placement with family members or in protective custody.

Ramzfan
  4/13/2017 12:53 EST

Juan, I am Bott calling you any names...all I'm asking is to know who some of your phantom sources are?

Cozumeldeb
  4/13/2017 13:02 EST

Ramzfan, you seem to want everyone to do your work/research..Turn off hate radio + Fox. Use fact check and Google..Your leader has flip flopping on majority of promises..3 FISA warrants outed this week, only named one, Carter Page, 2 others not named yet, I'm guessing Manafort is the big fish who will end this Presidental farce.

Ramzfan
  4/13/2017 13:06 EST

Gier, I may have drank the Kool-Aid (incidentally, you mis-spelled Kool) but it sure is quenching after eight years of trying to swallow macerated bull droppings. I don't know who the liberal you're asking about is? Perhaps I misunderstood the question.

Ramzfan
  4/13/2017 13:19 EST

Gier, it's no different than having your parents arrested. The kids have to go somewhere. Same goes for the parents who are voluntarily deporting themselves...they don't have to break up their family...take them with you!
Incidentally, I think you meant to say "untold side effects" in your previous post.

Ramzfan
  4/13/2017 13:25 EST

Deb, I don't want anyone to do my fact-checking....I just would like to see those who post information list from what source they got it. Otherwise, it's Fake News!

giershift43
  4/13/2017 13:30 EST

Washington (CNN)After a review of the same intelligence reports brought to light by House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes, both Republican and Democratic lawmakers and aides have so far found no evidence that Obama administration officials did anything unusual or illegal, multiple sources in both parties tell CNN.

Their private assessment contradicts President Donald Trump's allegations that former Obama national security adviser Susan Rice broke the law by requesting the "unmasking" of US individuals' identities. Trump had claimed the matter was a "massive story."

giershift43
  4/13/2017 13:32 EST

I can't even go to the grocery store and back without a new drama. Huge bomb dropped on Afghanistan.

I never drank Kool aid, not even as a kid.
I hope civilization survives this guy.

giershift43
  4/13/2017 13:36 EST

When you do not like a report, you attribute it to being a liberal source. Like that means it cannot be the truth.
By the way I subscribe to both right and left publications and read as much as I can find the time to read. Or maybe can stand. I am a proud liberal and you will like this, I was an alternate delegate pledged to Obama in 2008 for my district. Obama is not even progressive. He is what used to be called moderate. The spin on him was not based in reality , but on an irrational need to tear him down. I would have continued toward activism, but health reasons have slowed me down.
By the way RAM, What did you do for a living?

giershift43
  4/13/2017 13:42 EST

DT just realized a strong dollar makes our goods expensive. Where did this man study?? Did he ever study. That is basic economics.

MexJuan1
  4/13/2017 14:00 EST

You just sound like a trump, ventriliquist dummy. "FAKE NEWS, FAKE NEWS, FAKE NEWS" What "schtick" or "tack" are you going to take after the FBI gets all of their REAL FACTS in line and the criminals start "singing" to save themselves by implicating the ppl above them? The BIG FISH (good movie BTW) You're so irrelevant, so trite and do your thinking through another person's sick mind. You ask for sources, which are EVERYWHERE btw for the same reason. So you can call it Fake News. I once had a discussion with a trumper who assailed the article and source that I sighted and a cpl of posts later, he used the same source to back up his man. Like your "King", you ppl use whatever suits you at the time. So convenient...

giershift43
  4/13/2017 14:12 EST

Mexjuan, that is why the amnalogy to Jonestown and cultists. Truth is irrelevant.

MexJuan1
  4/13/2017 14:22 EST

That guy's not even worth the effort it takes me to type a post. If he made ANY sense at all, which he doesn't, then a, somewhat, intelligent conversation might ensue. Anyone who's still a "birther" (even DJT abandoned that ridiculous conspiracy!) He must be listening to Alex Jones and the like and reading Breitbart News. Idiots and nut jobs. I'm done with that guy! Just a "good ole boy" I imagine...

giershift43
  4/13/2017 15:20 EST

Analogy. I have always been a terrible typist.

Cozumeldeb
  4/13/2017 15:47 EST

He studied at the "best schools and has the best words."

giershift43
  4/13/2017 16:53 EST

And he says like he has an intellectual disability and about himself!!

worxs
  4/13/2017 17:35 EST

Analogy? You have been a terrible person and lack education.

giershift43
  4/13/2017 18:44 EST

Ram wanted another source:Washington (CNN)British and other European intelligence agencies intercepted communications between associates of Donald Trump and Russian officials and other Russian individuals during the campaign and passed on those communications to their US counterparts, US congressional and law enforcement and US and European intelligence sources tell CNN.

The communications were captured during routine surveillance of Russian officials and other Russians known to western intelligence. British and European intelligence agencies, including GCHQ, the British intelligence agency responsible for communications surveillance, were not proactively targeting members of the Trump team but rather picked up these communications during what's known as "incidental collection," these sources tell CNN.
The Russia story just keeps getting worse for President Trump
The Russia story just keeps getting worse for President Trump

giershift43
  4/13/2017 18:53 EST

Oh yeah on his campaign promises:
But recently Trump has racked up an unusual number of flip-flops, with some interesting implications for the rest of his presidency. To begin, let’s look at what he has changed his mind about just in the last few days:

He now thinks NATO is no longer obsolete
He won’t label China a currency manipulator
He now thinks the Export-Import bank should stay
He now likes Janet Yellen and may renominate her as Fed chair
The federal hiring freeze he ordered has now been lifted
You can look at each of these reversals and come up with an ideological interpretation. For instance, on the economic ones, you might say they represent the ascendance of the Wall Street wing of Trump’s advisers. Welcome swamp animals!

Ramzfan
  4/13/2017 21:42 EST

Or you could look at it as an aspiring new president who's not familiar with Washington politics having to set new rules until he finds which ones he can trust. Of course, you folks wouldn't understand that, as you are so set against him that you would NEVER admit that that was the FAIR WAY to look at him...!

Ramzfan
  4/13/2017 22:55 EST

Juan, your venomous posts are hardly worth my reply. Why do you hate me and want to call me names? Because I believe something different from what yo believe? That's hardly a reason to answer someone who is trying to ask you a civil question. All I asked was who were your sources? If you had any, it should be a simple question. Not one that causes you you lash out at a perfect stranger as if they'd insulted your family. No, judging from your latest reaction, I would guess that you couldn't name a source, because it was all hearsay. You know what they call a reaction like yours...? "Little man syndrome ". Have a nice day.

giershift43
  4/14/2017 00:31 EST

Right yeah that's it!!!

giershift43
  4/14/2017 09:39 EST

Juan is not venous. Ram, you are.

giershift43
  4/14/2017 09:57 EST

More like a poor typist.

giershift43
  4/14/2017 10:00 EST

The scale and cost to society is much larger. These kids will stay here and we will pay for them.

giershift43
  4/14/2017 10:03 EST

Trump has poor judgement and poor vetting.

nelsonokelmgmailcom
  4/14/2017 10:04 EST

Ramzfan You draw MY ire because you post things that are patently untrue. You regurgitate ReThugLicon talking points that they espouse to keep the deplorables happy. In one of your posts I went through and refuted your drivel point by point. You and the cons are literally destroying the fabric of the USA and taking away protections for the middle class and "less fortunate". Every appointment by Rump has been a disaster. He is removing actions by Obama, JUST BECAUSE THEY WERE IMPLEMENTED BY OBAMA. An example is intentionally screwing students who have tried to better themselves, by removing regulation on lenders who seek to implement unfair conditions on loan holders.

The ReThugLicons are destroying democracy, the planet, and world order. Ignorant sheep like you are despicable.

GigiB87
  4/14/2017 10:19 EST

Are we being punished for pushing this thread up to around 1000 posts by getting updates on every single thread on Mexico forum,? Boyfriend has threatened to take phone away. I replied he just wants to watch p--- which he didn't find amusing but neighbor thought hilarious. Sorry if offensive in past but serious times and we need to get it together, people. Frequently don't agree with Republicans and don't always trust Dems (many or most politicians) . Hope we
can come to terms on proper path for country and heal the divide with Mexico.
Question: What is the best way to advise or discuss dealing with Mexico's economic and social problems? Movement here from there down in numbers but that may change and for most I believe it is for economic improvement, not freedom from persecution. I'd probably do the same if in that situation if I could move and go from minimum wage to earning,.relatively, dozens of times that. Especially with children
Peace

ghammond
  4/14/2017 10:24 EST

Ram, Don't bother to try to have a conversation with them. They have the CNN virus. Anything that is stated on the Clinton News Network (formerly known as the Communist News Network), MUST be 100% true. No other views are tolerated by these people, the most tolerant of Liberals. They will beat you to within an inch of your life trying to infect you with the "Virus", no quarter given. I took a break and went to the beach. I let the "sunshine" disinfected me, now I'm immune from the effects of these Trolls. Live well my friend. Surround yourself with with light and don't let their darkness in.

Ramzfan
  4/14/2017 10:28 EST

Nelson, that is strictly your opinion and you are entitled to it. However, it appears that at least half of America disagrees with you. That's why they voted for Trump. You can make up all the cursor names that you want, but he is still the people's choice. Relax...you've only got eight more years of him...!

nelsonokelmgmailcom
  4/14/2017 10:31 EST

Ramzfan Rump will not complete 4 years!!!

GigiB87
  4/14/2017 10:32 EST

Communist network would be Pravda. You are either exaggerating of poorly informed. I don't always like CNN, everything is end of the world to them but calling them Communist indicates you probably have very little idea of the definition of Communism, or are just name calling.
Hail Hydra (from all us 'communists')

Ramzfan
  4/14/2017 10:39 EST

On top of that Nelson, President Trump is not removing laws "just because they were passed by Obama".... he is removing them because of several reasons: 1. They hurt the economy. 2. They hurt working people. 3. They were unnecessary. 4. To piss off liberals. (I just threw that in for laughs)

Ramzfan
  4/14/2017 11:04 EST

Gier, you asked what I did for a living...I worked I the sign business all of my life. I am now retired and take care of my properties and my grandson. I also volunteer with civic organizations as much as I can.

Ramzfan
  4/14/2017 11:04 EST

Gier, you asked what I did for a living...I worked I the sign business all of my life. I am now retired and take care of my properties and my grandson. I also volunteer with civic organizations as much as I can.

Cozumeldeb
  4/14/2017 11:20 EST

MexJuan 1, Agree 100%, not worth a keystroke..These good ole boys, alt right jackasses will suffer first and the most..Bust out losers blaming everyone because they've wasted their lives in some backwoods State.

Cozumeldeb
  4/14/2017 11:20 EST

MexJuan 1, Agree 100%, not worth a keystroke..These good ole boys, alt right jackasses will suffer first and the most..Bust out losers blaming everyone because they've wasted their lives in some backwoods State.

giershift43
  4/14/2017 11:23 EST

I too manage my own properties, 6 rentals and have my granddaughter living with me.
I started and ran a nonprofit on top of my full time job for a while. As I said I was widows at age 50.
My parents owned a grocery store at one point in time. I have invested a significant amount of time in education as well.
I believe in education for democracy and not simply repeating slogans.

MexJuan1
  4/14/2017 11:26 EST

Abstract thinking here. As liberals (actually, I'm a Socialist and would have voted for Bernie) are prone to do. "Think" that is and not just follow. I have thought, for many years, decades to be exact that, the American Political System should change to having two (2) Presidents. Totally separate from one another. One with an intellect and a heart for the ppl to handle Domestic Policy. One with well qualified Military Advisors (so he doesn't even have to have a brain or a heart) to handle Foreign Policy. Obama was, admittedly, weak on Foreign Policy and DID NOT want to be a War President but, w/o him saving America from the failed Bush Policies, (losing 800K jobs per month when Obama took office. Banks and large businesses (auto) failing, needing bailed out, Wall Street in full criminal mode) we wouldn't even be talking about any of this at all. This president doing the exact opposite of what he said he would do, no surprise as EVERYONE knew or should have known that he'd be a War Hawk. Selling the American ppl, poor and Middle Class, down the river but, being tough on foreign enemies but, in the offing, headed for Nuclear War with N. Korea. I had an Uncle who was all effed up from The Korean Conflict in the late 40's. Imagine what will happen now? Anyway, abstract but, logical thought. I think the "job" is just too big for one person, that's all so, go ahead and hit me with all you've got. I, really, don't care about taking s#@t from irrelevant ppl, believe me... I pushed NO hatred, venom or unsubstantiated rhetoric. I'll, probably take crap for my "out of the box" thinking but, to me, it makes sense.

giershift43
  4/14/2017 11:26 EST

I am both personally responsible and care for others. I do continue to work part time as a counselor and do assessment for nursing facilities PRN. Some contract review of Tricare.

It takes a little more knowledge than printing a sign.

giershift43
  4/14/2017 11:27 EST

I am both personally responsible and care for others. I do continue to work part time as a counselor and do assessment for nursing facilities PRN. Some contract review of Tricare.

It takes a little more knowledge than printing a sign. I have also had systemic lupus for 35 years. I'm such a snowflake.

Ramzfan
  4/14/2017 11:30 EST

"Flip-flops?" I hardly call them that...more like negotiating tactics. Put the pressure on and they will come around. Something Obammy never learned to do.

Cozumeldeb
  4/14/2017 11:31 EST

ghammond, when was Ted Turner a communist? You remain factless and pathetic.

giershift43
  4/14/2017 11:33 EST

Today I am loading my family up and going to Oglebay for Easter. So long. I hope by next year to at least have a Winter home in Ajijic.
My late husband served in the Navy and worked for the defense department. He was an engineer. I helped him go to college as well. We lazy yellow bellied liberals.

Cozumeldeb
  4/14/2017 11:36 EST

FISA warrants disclosed this week are the beginning of the end. Suggest you muckrakers start checking world news, Guardian, BBC etc..Your hate stations have softened your brains.

giershift43
  4/14/2017 11:38 EST

Go Cozumel Deb. !!
They have been duped by empty promises that only make a few rich at the expense of the welfare of the nation.

Cozumeldeb
  4/14/2017 11:39 EST

Enjoy your weekend and best of luck on Ajijic, we were their last month, wonderful climate + people.

giershift43
  4/14/2017 11:49 EST

Liberal stance: War is bad because it kills innocent people.
Alt Right: War is bad for my portfolio, but all that money in the military industrial complex and a chance to profiteer. Right to life as a way to oppress women. But killing is good.

ghammond
  4/14/2017 11:50 EST

Cozumeldeb; Ted Turner has been a communist since he married "Hanoi" Jane Fonda! Perhaps before that. As a Vietnam Vet I will never forgive or forget that traitorous bi-ch.

giershift43
  4/14/2017 12:22 EST

Mexjuan,
I too am a Bernie Supported. The Democrats have abandoned their base.
But oh look at all the war profiteering that will go on. And after all so many poor get to be killed off and more for the rich. Miserable corrupt in the name of religion and the "right."

MexJuan1
  4/14/2017 13:07 EST

I am NOT in favor of WAR but, N. Korea is testing missiles as a precursor to ICBM's that could reach the U.S. I'm in favor, in part of what was done in Syria, although, I think his Air Force should have been taken out completely. He's still bombing his ppl from that Air Base so, the strike was, pretty, ineffective I'd say. And the ISIS strike in Afghanistan,the 10 Ton MOAB, is being supported by even the Fake News outlets that I watch. Bottom line, Dictators, War Criminals and Terrorist must be confronted! Innocent ppl will die, yes. They, already are dying. They, always, do in War. If I were Pence, I'd be cancelling my trip to S. Korea for sure! And the rich will ALWAYS get richer. Nobody can stop that. I was, always, frustrated that Obama didn't do more but, again, he was a "Dove" and an intelligent man. trump is not! He's a Chest Thumper and, although, he will, more than likely start a War with N. Korea, maybe a Nuclear War with S. Korea and Japan in imminent danger. He's NOT doing any of this anyway. It's H.R. McMaster, Genls. Kelly and Mattis. America should be glad those guys are there. Otherwise, Domestic Policy is a sham, disastrous and horrifically mindless/heartless. Spicer should go but, he'd just be replaced by another person to lie for his boss. Maybe Conway? Can you imagine? Bannon, Miller, DeVoss who will destroy the education system, Pruitt, who will destroy the country and the Earth in his bidding for the Fossil Fuel Industry, Price, who will destroy Health Care, Sessions, who is just a racist, homophobe, White Supremacist and a YES MAN to trump and a few more must go or that country, the poor and middle class, have no chance. I am scared as hell over what is happening and what may come however necessary it may become. I think the Preemptive Strike may happen tonight because Kim Jung Il is readying six (6) test missiles to celebrate Daddy's Birthday tomorrow. If that happens, it will be on! I don't pray. See no use for it as an Atheist. If you do pray, start now. Don't think it will help much but, if it helps you, do it!

giershift43
  4/14/2017 19:42 EST

Lol. And lol
Again. One more lol!!!

giershift43
  4/14/2017 20:10 EST

Ahhhhhh

giershift43
  4/14/2017 20:10 EST

Ahhhhhh

giershift43
  4/15/2017 03:45 EST

Both Fonds and Ted Turner very rich people and own a lot of capital that makes income. Yep they sound communistic alright. I do not think so.

Cozumeldeb
  4/15/2017 10:00 EST

Fonda/Turner remark was in response to comment from ghammond who said CNN was a communist network, I replied, "didn't know Ted Turner was a communist." That's when it went off the tracks..

giershift43
  4/15/2017 10:55 EST

I guess anyone who is not alt right is communist. Same crazy label and dispose of any contradictory information to a persons beliefs. Fanatical

Ramzfan
  4/15/2017 12:40 EST

I find it very strange that so many people are calling for the release of DJT's tax returns. What are they going to show...? Who cares? We all know that the man is extremely rich...he makes more in one year than most of us will make in a lifetime. What is it that people want to see? Any deductions that he takes have to be legal or he couldn't file his returns. Hmmmm....you don't suppose it's just plain jealousy and nosyness, do you....?

giershift43
  4/15/2017 12:46 EST

His tax returns can show conflicts of interest and to whom he owes money. Important stuff. That you don't understand that is troubling. His disclosure statement are less comprehensive . He also lied about if they are being audited that he cannot sow them per the IRS. He can show them . He just won't . Every president since Nixon has.

MexJuan1
  4/15/2017 12:52 EST

Don't even answer that guy. He knows why. He's only trying to get a "rise" out of ppl by citing obvious and ridiculous premises. He's just a misfit antagonizer.

giershift43
  4/15/2017 13:09 EST

Mexjuan good. Point or most of us just can't understand how ignorant Trump supporters are. But if you talk to a few of them , the lack
Of general information is striking.

MexJuan1
  4/15/2017 13:24 EST

I know but, he does this every day. He lays out some ridiculous, accusatory, pointless point then lays back and waits for ppl to be upset. Like asking me for my "sources" about what I've said when they're everywhere that anyone with half a brain can see. He knows that 80% of the American ppl want DJT to release his tax returns and he knows why! He just believes that whatever trump or Fox News or Alex Jones or Breitbart says is true. He's an instigator, nothing more and worth no sane person's time. I'm done talking (he has no conversational skills) to him and now done talking about him. I'd hope others would do the same (your choice, of course) and stop indulging him...

Ramzfan
  4/15/2017 13:52 EST

I guess I'm just too accepting. If he has something to hide, I'm sure he's smart enough that he would have hid it. If he owes money to a corporation or a bank, so what? I guess I'm just not the conspiracy type that likes to believe there's a motive hidden in every Republicans closet. I believe DJT when he says that his motive is that he wants to see America become great again. Just call me old ignorant Steve.

giershift43
  4/15/2017 14:07 EST

Mexjuan, thanks have a nice weekend.

nelsonokelmgmailcom
  4/15/2017 14:27 EST

MexJuan1- I was going to respond to his stupidity on Rumps taxes. BUT I have determined that he is not worth the time spent. I have noted from his posts that he is either very naive or a liar. Both fit the typical ReThugLicon!!!

Cozumeldeb
  4/15/2017 15:58 EST

Do you live in a bubble? Any person who got away for 18-20 yrs NOT paying a dime of taxes because of casino BK, who loses money running casinos?, Also consider what banks finance him, NO US Banks, Russia, Cyprus, and others sketchy sources, like FL real estate deal, when he sold a Russian Oligarch a house for double what Trump bought it for, that's called money laundering, 60 mins had a big story on that..Google it.

Ramzfan
  4/15/2017 15:59 EST

Well, well Nellie, I knew it wouldn't be long before before the bottom-dwellers started calling names & began trying to make themselves sound important. Those that lack the intelligence to ask questions usually begin by trying to make others think that they know it all already. My reason behind wanting to know what the big deal was about the Presidents taxes was, it was never important enough to all you libbies to even see Obamas birth certificate and you poo-pooed anyone that even questioned his legitimacy. Why the furor over DJT's tax returns? It took the buffoon over three years to produce his certificate, that means Donald has 2 3/4 years to go...!

Cozumeldeb
  4/15/2017 16:12 EST

Sort of overlooking the birther BS was proven false repeatedly and Cheeto finally admitted it to, also his mother was an American so only willfully ignorant bought it. There was never a question about his legitimacy as President, did u question Cruz's when he was running. I post verified facts because I believe in it and posters like u trying to throw a wide/empty net with little or no facts are a joke..Presidental candidates for decades have released their tax returns, Hillary released 25 yrs of returns yet they still vilified her for speaking fees, lies, lies..How about you study up on Russia/Putin and enlighten us on who will be the 1st to roll on Trump.

Cozumeldeb
  4/15/2017 16:22 EST

Sort of overlooking the birther BS was proven false repeatedly and Cheeto finally admitted it to, also his mother was an American so only willfully ignorant bought it. There was never a question about his legitimacy as President, did u question Cruz's when he was running. I post verified facts because I believe in it and posters like u trying to throw a wide/empty net with little or no facts are a joke..Presidental candidates for decades have released their tax returns, Hillary released 25 yrs of returns yet they still vilified her for speaking fees, lies, lies..How about you study up on Russia/Putin and enlighten us on who will be the 1st to roll on Trump.

Ramzfan
  4/15/2017 18:20 EST

Well, well, even though I wasn't addressing her, here comes miss Nasty herself. How's your day going Debbie? Still watching MSNBC? Like I said, it only took a little over THREE YEARS for Obammy to release his birth certificate...Trump should probably release his tax returns in less time than that...!

katzgar
  4/16/2017 16:08 EST

why are you bringing right wing looniness into this?

katzgar
  4/16/2017 16:08 EST

why are you bringing right wing looniness into this?

katzgar
  4/16/2017 16:08 EST

why are you bringing right wing looniness into this?

katzgar
  4/16/2017 16:08 EST

why are you bringing right wing looniness into this?

katzgar
  4/16/2017 16:08 EST

why are you bringing right wing looniness into this?

katzgar
  4/16/2017 16:08 EST

why are you bringing right wing looniness into this?

katzgar
  4/16/2017 16:08 EST

why are you bringing right wing looniness into this?

katzgar
  4/16/2017 16:08 EST

why are you bringing right wing looniness into this?

katzgar
  4/16/2017 16:09 EST

why are you bringing right wing looniness into this?

katzgar
  4/16/2017 16:09 EST

why are you bringing right wing looniness into this?

katzgar
  4/16/2017 16:09 EST

why are you bringing right wing looniness into this?

GigiB87
  4/16/2017 16:11 EST

Yeah! Let's at least hear some funny (funny ha! ha!,/not funny peculiar) looniness.

Ramzfan
  4/16/2017 18:08 EST

Sorry Gier, but you misspelled "venomous" in your post from 4/14. Just pointing it out, as you seem to feel that you are the spelling marm...!

Ramzfan
  4/16/2017 18:08 EST

Sorry Gier, but you misspelled "venomous" in your post from 4/14. Just pointing it out, as you seem to feel that you are the spelling marm...!

katzgar
  4/16/2017 18:20 EST

Somebody made a comment about Obama's birth certificate which is just more right wing racist crap

katzgar
  4/16/2017 18:20 EST

Somebody made a comment about Obama's birth certificate which is just more right wing racist crap

GigiB87
  4/16/2017 18:21 EST

Has anyone heard or read Pope's Easter Sunday message? Much more heard and revered in Mexico than USA, I am sure.

GigiB87
  4/16/2017 18:24 EST

Katzgar, not only RWRC but STUPID or LYING (or both) RWRC.

richmcintyre
  4/16/2017 18:54 EST

"Ramzfan
new message
4/15/2017 13:52 EST
I believe DJT when he says that his motive is that he wants to see America become great again. Just call me old ignorant Steve."

That works for me, "old ignorant Steve." But don't be so down on yourself. It isn't your fault you are a victim of fetal alcohol syndrome.

richmcintyre
  4/16/2017 18:55 EST

"Ramzfan
new message
4/15/2017 13:52 EST
I believe DJT when he says that his motive is that he wants to see America become great again. Just call me old ignorant Steve."

That works for me, "old ignorant Steve." But don't be so down on yourself. It isn't your fault- you are a victim of fetal alcohol syndrome.

GigiB87
  4/16/2017 19:01 EST

But.....what is his possibly delusional idea of great? If he keeps it up I wouldn't be 100% surprised if China supplants USA as #1 economy, military power, environmental leader and moral authority on governmental policy ,(since who can believe Trump?) Things change. Britain used to be us.

katzgar
  4/16/2017 19:09 EST

The make America great again BS appeals to the ignorant deplorables. America is great now.

katzgar
  4/16/2017 19:09 EST

The make America great again BS appeals to the ignorant deplorables. America is great now.

katzgar
  4/16/2017 19:09 EST

The make America great again BS appeals to the ignorant deplorables. America is great now.

katzgar
  4/16/2017 19:10 EST

The make America great again BS appeals to the ignorant deplorables. America is great now.

GigiB87
  4/16/2017 19:11 EST

Not, sadly,. for everybody.

katzgar
  4/16/2017 19:19 EST

"Well, well Nellie, I knew it wouldn't be long before before the bottom-dwellers started calling names & began trying to make themselves sound important. Those that lack the intelligence to ask questions usually begin by trying to make others think that they know it all already. My reason behind wanting to know what the big deal was about the Presidents taxes was, it was never important enough to all you libbies to even see Obamas birth certificate and you poo-pooed anyone that even questioned his legitimacy. Why the furor over DJT's tax returns? It took the buffoon over three years to produce his certificate, that means Donald has 2 3/4 years to go...!"

A post like this is classic deplorable ignorant racism. The federal elections commission certified Obama as qualified. The fact that you are unaware of that simple fact is just symptomatic of how ignorant Trump types are at the very least a civics 101 class is in order. You are just going to have get used yo the idea that America had a black man in the white house.

katzgar
  4/16/2017 19:19 EST

"Well, well Nellie, I knew it wouldn't be long before before the bottom-dwellers started calling names & began trying to make themselves sound important. Those that lack the intelligence to ask questions usually begin by trying to make others think that they know it all already. My reason behind wanting to know what the big deal was about the Presidents taxes was, it was never important enough to all you libbies to even see Obamas birth certificate and you poo-pooed anyone that even questioned his legitimacy. Why the furor over DJT's tax returns? It took the buffoon over three years to produce his certificate, that means Donald has 2 3/4 years to go...!"

A post like this is classic deplorable ignorant racism. The federal elections commission certified Obama as qualified. The fact that you are unaware of that simple fact is just symptomatic of how ignorant Trump types are at the very least a civics 101 class is in order. You are just going to have get used yo the idea that America had a black man in the white house.

GigiB87
  4/16/2017 19:35 EST

Thanks, gs43, for complimentary post of 4/12. Hard to keep up sometimes, this thread moves so fast.

Ramzfan
  4/16/2017 20:45 EST

What right-wing looneyness...? I'm just speaking my opinion. Have you heard me call anybody "looney?" I don't call people names. Of course, I happen to be a conservative...!

Ramzfan
  4/16/2017 20:45 EST

What right-wing looneyness...? I'm just speaking my opinion. Have you heard me call anybody "looney?" I don't call people names. Of course, I happen to be a conservative...!

Ramzfan
  4/16/2017 20:50 EST

Well Kat, I guess that make his brother a racist then, because he was the latest one to produce a copy of Obamas Kenyan birth certificate. Haha!

nelsonokelmgmailcom
  4/16/2017 20:54 EST

Ramzfan- Opinions are like A$$holes. Every body has one!!!

Ramzfan
  4/16/2017 20:55 EST

I'm sorry Kat, I wasn't aware that this thread was for left-wing loonies only....!

giershift43
  4/16/2017 22:01 EST

I agree with Mexjaun, Do not answer him anymore.

giershift43
  4/16/2017 22:01 EST

I agree with Mexjuan, Do not answer him anymore.

GigiB87
  4/16/2017 22:08 EST

Don't you think everyone would be all over this B.C. 'outrage' if any proveable validity. I would say that alone makes you bat sh...
crazy, except that you are also a Ram's fan, so we have 2 things. And of course no one in Kenya ever,.ever tries to lie, decieve or cheat anyone for financial gain, especially not over the internet. That Obama. How gullible could we be?

Ramzfan
  4/16/2017 23:28 EST

Just hang in there kiddies...eventually, it will be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. And when that day comes, his "legacy" will be wiped from the face of history..

Ramzfan
  4/16/2017 23:28 EST

Just hang in there kiddies...eventually, it will be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. And when that day comes, his "legacy" will be wiped from the face of history..

Ramzfan
  4/16/2017 23:40 EST

You know what I don't understand about liberals? They never want to hear an opposing view on anything. Instead of trying to listen and possibly learn something, they close their minds and bury their heads, not entirely unlike a camel. If someone poses a question that they cannot answer, their most common response is to call that person names and curse at them. I've often likened it to a sense of insecurity.

Cozumeldeb
  4/17/2017 00:07 EST

Why are you posting, right wing loonies 3x?

GigiB87
  4/17/2017 00:39 EST

I hear he shot Kennedy as well. You may have to pull a 'Snowden' in order to escape all these secret Obama cultists still in deep cover in the government who surely won't permit you to keep speaking this dangerous truth. Don't forget to write. From Russia with ...

katzgar
  4/17/2017 08:25 EST

like I said dumbass deplorables...camels dont bury their heads. You white nationalists need to stay in your bunker.

katzgar
  4/17/2017 08:25 EST

like I said dumbass deplorables...camels dont bury their heads. You white nationalists need to stay in your bunker.

katzgar
  4/17/2017 08:25 EST

like I said dumbass deplorables...camels dont bury their heads. You white nationalists need to stay in your bunker.

katzgar
  4/17/2017 08:26 EST

like I said dumbass deplorables...camels dont bury their heads. You white nationalists need to stay in your bunker.

katzgar
  4/17/2017 08:26 EST

like I said dumbass deplorables...camels dont bury their heads. You white nationalists need to stay in your bunker.

katzgar
  4/17/2017 08:27 EST

like I said dumbass deplorables...camels dont bury their heads. You white nationalists need to stay in your bunker.

WoodwindWayne
  4/17/2017 10:36 EST

So Katzgar, click on Post a Reply once when posting a reply. This is not rocket science.....

WoodwindWayne
  4/17/2017 10:38 EST

There's a time lag between clicking post and the actual post....

Ramzfan
  4/17/2017 10:40 EST

Katsgar...hahahahaha...!

WoodwindWayne
  4/17/2017 10:48 EST

Yeah Ram, I mean dumbass deplorable x 6= overkill, no?

giershift43
  4/17/2017 11:45 EST

Katzgar,
Mexjuan pointed out that Ramz just likes getting people upset. That is why I do not answer him anymore nor confuse him with things like facts.

nelsonokelmgmailcom
  4/17/2017 11:53 EST

giershift43- Well said. Everyone should just ignore this troll (Ramz). He is not worth any time spent attempting to cure his total ignorance. He just gets off on being an A$$hole.

nelsonokelmgmailcom
  4/17/2017 11:53 EST

giershift43- Well said. Everyone should just ignore this troll (Ramz). He is not worth any time spent attempting to cure his total ignorance. He just gets off on being an A$$hole.

Ramzfan
  4/17/2017 11:57 EST

So true...I enjoy seeing liberals get upset when I pose questions to them that are too difficult to comprehend. Questions like " name your source?" It's easy to answer "there are lots of sources out there, look it up!" But that's not my job...I didn't make the statement. The point is, for those whose brain matter will accept it, is that if you make a statement about somebody, be willing to back it up with your source. And don't say "MSNBC" or "CNN" because we all know those are as fake as the "Washington Post."

Cozumeldeb
  4/17/2017 18:06 EST

Ramzfan, you need counseling, meds and more. You ask for sources, they are supplied and you ignore..Agree with others can't block him on this site, but sure as hell can ignore him.

MexJuan1
  4/17/2017 18:15 EST

I tried to tell everyone... That guy's just not right in the head! Correction though deb. I got my crime figures at Numbeo >crime>ranking_by_country. That's if, in case, you we're asking me? I wasn't sure but wanted to give you the correct search.

GigiB87
  4/17/2017 18:16 EST

Just curious, Ramzfan, what is your educational background?

GigiB87
  4/18/2017 17:48 EST

Author Richard C----mentioned in his column today that AO, if policies were sexual identities,wouldn't know which bathroom to use. Russia now for, China a friend. NATO no longer obsolete. Goldman Sachs, who he said has 'total, total control' over Ted Cruz and HRC, are prominent in his administration. NAFTA remains in place, Obamacare law of the land. A retreat to the status quo, says C----.
By the way, where is that pesky wall? I'm starting to look forward to it. There used to be an overpass in No Cal that just stopped, went nowhere. This could be just like that. A partial wall as a monument (well, more of a sad reminder). Don't get me wrong still hate every minute of this mess. (Blanks in word starting with 'C' were because computer told me word was 'forbidden'.)

GigiB87
  4/18/2017 17:52 EST

'for' seems to be a word my pacifist phone prefer to 'foe'. Don't know why C---- is a forbidden word by EE either.

MexJuan1
  4/18/2017 18:13 EST

Was that forbidden word Conway? Sure would fit! And you're, absolutely, correct. It's a "HOT" mess, no doubt. He's, basically, sold out to China now in the N. Korea deal other countries, say there's trouble from Iran, will know that they can hold him and the U.S. hostage for protection from an enemy. An extremely bad precedent. And did he ever show his "true colors" by calling Erdogan to congratulate another Dictator on his corrupt election? I swear his ass is in his head and he's sitting on what brains he has left. The hits just keep on coming, don't they? We've got two, maybe three hopes. 1. He's forced to show his tax returns, somehow, and the "REAL" DJT with foreign ties and he walks. 2. Russian collusion proven by the FBI and 3. There's been an uptick in talk of IMPEACHMENT as Rep. Congressman are getting heat from their constituents as well as many Rep. Senators and House Reps becoming disillusioned with him and no longer afraid of him. He's making them look bad, causing them "YUGE" heat and has them very concerned about 2018! They only need 24 Republicans to make it happen.

DeniseLR
  4/18/2017 18:39 EST

I read same column. Richard, then a 'C', an 'O', an 'H', an 'E' and an 'N'. Liberal syndicated columnist.

katzgar
  4/18/2017 19:30 EST

There's been a lot of publicity to recently about how Putin is trolling all over the Internet supporting Trump messing in American elections messing in French elections Ramzfan is likely just another Putin troll.

katzgar
  4/18/2017 19:31 EST

There's been a lot of publicity to recently about how Putin is trolling all over the Internet supporting Trump messing in American elections messing in French elections Ramzfan is likely just another Putin troll.

katzgar
  4/18/2017 19:31 EST

There's been a lot of publicity to recently about how Putin is trolling all over the Internet supporting Trump messing in American elections messing in French elections Ramzfan is likely just another Putin troll.

katzgar
  4/18/2017 19:31 EST

There's been a lot of publicity to recently about how Putin is trolling all over the Internet supporting Trump messing in American elections messing in French elections Ramzfan is likely just another Putin troll.

katzgar
  4/18/2017 19:31 EST

There's been a lot of publicity to recently about how Putin is trolling all over the Internet supporting Trump messing in American elections messing in French elections Ramzfan is likely just another Putin troll.

MexJuan1
  4/18/2017 19:36 EST

More likely, he's just irrelevant...

DeniseLR
  4/18/2017 19:37 EST

I would hope the Russian intelligence services could come up with a more sophisticated troll. May have missed it, but can't recall his ever bad mouthing.V.P.though. Quien sabe?

Ramzfan
  4/18/2017 19:56 EST

Hey KittyKatz, why don't you learn how to post on here. You only have to push the button once! It's not rocket science you know...! Hahahahaha..!

MexJuan1
  4/18/2017 19:58 EST

And it speaks... Happens to all of us brainiac. The site's had a glitch for a while now. Guess always looking to the far right, you must have missed it?

Cozumeldeb
  4/18/2017 22:54 EST

MexJuan1, correct... Hopefully the end is near..FISA warrants will end this farce..Plus other countries have verified tapes. We won't have to leave our paradises.

MexJuan1
  4/18/2017 23:56 EST

Well yes but, not so fast Deb. Even if we get lucky enough to have the bombastic abhoration gone, a Pence/Ryan run America doesn't make me feel a whole lot better. They're both a bit unhinged too! Although, running the trumpster out of town will take a lot of the illegitimates with him. Bannon, Kushner, Miller, Sessions, Conway, Spicer, DeVos, Pruitt and Price and all the "lackeys" like Nunes. We need to keep H. R., and Mattis, I think and maybe Kelly and Cohn who have got him this far by their expertise and somewhat moderate advise. They key to trump's demise will be what happens in the 2018 midterms as well. I don't have a "soft spot" for Politicians in general but the fact is, Democrats care about ppl, Republicans just don't! So, if Pence becomes Prez and Ryan V. P. (still very scary) Congress must be in control of the Dems to counteract them... I do see hope on the horizon though. ;-)

katzgar
  4/19/2017 08:19 EST

I was right the guy is just another one of those Kremlin basement trolls

katzgar
  4/19/2017 08:20 EST

I was right the guy is just another one of those Kremlin basement trolls

MexJuan1
  4/19/2017 14:48 EST

Read "Trump's Ethical Squalor is Worse Than You Thought" Washington Post by Jennifer Rubin posted just an hour ago. It will tell you about the UNETHICAL, IMMORAL CRIMINAL who is (attempting) to run America and the Free World. He is where he is for one reason and one reason only! SELF ENRICHMENT... Maybe two? SELF GRANDISEMENT... to inflated his, already, self inflated ego. The clock is ticking on him "trump trainers"...

DeniseLR
  4/19/2017 15:06 EST

Fox just dropped Bill O'REILLY. Nice not to have to constantly hear about all his BS. Wonder who's up next.

MexJuan1
  4/19/2017 15:08 EST

That's GREAT NEWS!!! Like I said, the clock is ticking on TRUMP...

Cozumeldeb
  4/19/2017 15:17 EST

Pence was in cahoots with Manafort, and was in from the beginning, he'll go too..Ryan's approval rating is lower than Trump's and he's got some anchors on him to.

MexJuan1
  4/19/2017 15:20 EST

I don't trust ANY of them! Maybe, after this criminal activity is ALL revealed, it will be SPECIAL ELECTION TIME? Wouldn't that be setting a new precedent?

Cozumeldeb
  4/19/2017 15:31 EST

I believe it calls for that, we still have very dicey info, #1 why the hell did the Dems/ President Obama inform the public.. McConnell and the rest of those crooks, Lord know how deep in the GOP goes, certainly the upper echelon..Chaffetz bails today, Ryan can't be far behind.

giershift43
  4/19/2017 16:10 EST

Now if Fix would just go away or better get honest!

Cozumeldeb
  4/19/2017 16:23 EST

Hopefully that Judge Jeanie, Eric Bollinger, Greg Whatever..

giershift43
  4/19/2017 16:31 EST

I hope so as well. In the mean time, I try to stay busy.

giershift43
  4/19/2017 17:48 EST

I hate spell correct, Fox would get honest.

DeniseLR
  4/19/2017 19:16 EST

For me it justifies the revulsion I have always felt for O'Reilly, his insensitivity and his arrogance.

DeniseLR
  4/20/2017 09:55 EST

Enough New England Patriots skipping their meeting with President at White House to warrant discussion on sports talk channels. I wouldn't go either. Lots of family arguments when Tom Brady and Bill Belichick came out in support of T.Rump. Obviously NFL not nearly as big in Mexico as futbol, but still pretty big. Keep running into capitalist focused people who don't know much about his past (in my opinion a 'Developer' is the least creative, innovative and impressive of the potential billionaire set, except those who inherited everything) and think jobs are just going to drop from the sky. Maybe from the military-,industrial boys if we get into more wars.

DeniseLR
  4/20/2017 10:27 EST

And it appears over 20,000 retired miners will see their health care benefits collapse soon unless Trump and Congress comes up with a fix soon.

giershift43
  4/20/2017 10:32 EST

He cares nothing for the people of the nation!

giershift43
  4/20/2017 10:32 EST

He cares nothing for the people of the nation!

MexJuan1
  4/20/2017 11:50 EST

Exxon Mobile seeking release of sanctions to resume business in Russia. Who didn't see that one coming? Further evidence of collusion, no doubt. trump deporting "Dreamers" now and going up against the same "Mexican" (from Indiana) judge who ruled against him in his fake trump university scam. I like the "Dreamers" chances...

Ramzfan
  4/20/2017 12:13 EST

I find it extremely interesting that the libbies are pushing the notion that DJT's support is waning among legal voters. The truth is, his support has never been stronger! Those of us who voted for this man are thrilled with what he has accomplished thus far. He is bringing America back from a pussified nation to a nation of power and respect. He is weeding the garden of crooked cronyism and replacing it with men of power and respect. It will not be long before ISIS is a thing of the past and violent terrorists will be either eliminated or drastically thinned from our population. Hopefully, it will not be too long before some of the fake news sites like MSNBC are gone also. God bless Donald Trump!

MexJuan1
  4/20/2017 12:24 EST

Did "someone" just post "something"? Like a FANTASY?

Cozumeldeb
  4/20/2017 14:12 EST

Ramzfan you are a hoot, you need further troll training. Everyone on Twitter needs to search Trump regret voters, settle back and read comments, "I voted for him and now realize I betrayed my country." I got some sites sent to me this AM..Loads of sites with hundreds of thousands of Trump voters, realized they've been conned..Ramzfan spend some time there, or not, your kind will hold tight to their mistakes until u are destroyed..How many government programs do use?

worxs
  4/20/2017 15:11 EST

Thank goodness there are only 4 blatantly anti-american libtards on this site. Pampered Deb, Gear head, Gigi and landscaping Juan. Most Mexicans have a lassize faire attitude about Trump and the US.

DeniseLR
  4/20/2017 15:30 EST

So, Ramzfan, what is your educational background and any other experiences you may have had that granted you the uncanny perception you so clearly possess to see something so many of us are unable to perceive or grasp.? Inquiring minds want to know. We need savants such as yourself to keep this thread going. Let's hear it, don't be modest.

MexJuan1
  4/20/2017 15:50 EST

Like I said Deb. Did "someone" say "something"? Like a FANTASY?

Ramzfan
  4/20/2017 15:58 EST

Deb, once again, as I always ask, send me the names of your "hundreds of websites" that you love to post as "sources" for your liberal B.S.

MexJuan1
  4/20/2017 15:58 EST

And, like I've said before, he just puts something out there against ALL fact and truth and leaves, just to aggravate and agitate. Or, he's just THAT dumb? Take your pick. Either way, he's, certainly, NOT worth answering and, especially, confronting with any actual facts or truth! He's, probably, just upset that one of his heroes, a true Media Liar and Sexual Predator, Bill O'Reilly is gone in disgrace...

DeniseLR
  4/20/2017 16:06 EST

So, respectfully, don't answer him. I'm sure there is some place for people like him in the world, if he is a real person. I just want to see whether he is prepared to back up anything he says or is just catfishing (playing games). You may disagree. No harm done that I am aware of.

MexJuan1
  4/20/2017 16:40 EST

Oh, he's harmless alright. Just, blatantly wrong and ridiculous in his speak. If you cite fact that is EVERYWHERE, he just attacks you for your "sources" so he can down play them and ridicule you. Yes, there's a place for him. I just can't say exactly where on this forum but, without exception, he is unworthy of any knowledgeable response to the fantasy world in which he exists. That's it for me. Won't answer him, done wasting time, even, talking about him...

Cozumeldeb
  4/20/2017 19:16 EST

Words, grow up..MX has thousands of liberals/ Democrats more than Rethugs..If u live here, and do not value your life in MX, time to head north..Ex-pats world wide know and understand the value of this country + the people. To support a scumbag Russian president and live here makes you a worthless POS. BTW, 1st time I've been called "pampered."

Cozumeldeb
  4/20/2017 19:19 EST

Workzs + Ramzfan are laughable, factless, and enemies of US + MX.

Cozumeldeb
  4/20/2017 19:21 EST

Bahaha, so right MexJuan1, you're a gardener and I'm pampered..Stupid, willfully ignorant runs wide and deep with these tools.

Cozumeldeb
  4/20/2017 19:23 EST

I told you where to source, Twitter, go to search box, type in Trump regret voters..Keep you busy for a week at least..Multiple sites, be sure to click follow so u get updates.

MexJuan1
  4/20/2017 19:26 EST

You've got to admit. They're "good" at what they do. Whatever it is. Probably sending tweets and emails to Fox right now supporting O'Reilly and telling them what a big mistake they've made letting the sexual predator go?

DeniseLR
  4/20/2017 20:55 EST

So,Juan, why are you the one talking about him and making a huge deal about a sad misinformed fool and, on top of that, telling other adults who to speak with which is something done to children and citizens of North Korea. I don't take him that seriously. Believe in redemption for most, just not sociopaths like Trump. Him I take seriously. Maybe this thread has gone on too long.

Cozumeldeb
  4/20/2017 21:04 EST

DeniseLR, bad day? What huge deal? Anyone may make a comment and seems odd to question that from you?

DeniseLR
  4/20/2017 21:05 EST

Sorry if that came off a little harsh. Hope things take a turn for the better for all of us, and those that think they already are wake up soon.

MexJuan1
  4/20/2017 21:06 EST

No, you're correct in your admonishment of me. I've spent way too much time on that subject. But, I never "told" anyone to not speak to him. I advised others to make up their own minds as to addressing his ridiculousness and false facts and truths as well as attempting to reason with someone who thinks the way he does. I am no one to "tell" anyone what to do or not to do or say. I guess my disgust with his maladjusted diatribes got the better of me. I don't take him seriously and do, as do you, take trump and what's going on, very seriously so, if you tool exception to my actions, I apologize to you, sincerely.

DeniseLR
  4/20/2017 21:14 EST

Thanks Juan. Ditto.

Ramzfan
  4/20/2017 21:26 EST

Deb, you know, I find your posts quite funny sometimes. Especially this last one where you talk about the thousands of libbies living in Mexico and if you value your life, you better head North. Hahahahaha...I live in Mexico 6 months a year, when I can. This year I'm tied up and have only spent about a month there. I don't fear for my life though. Most of the Mexican people I know are very open minded.(even the gardeners, although some are more ignorant than others) The ones I find who are the most non-tolerant are the snobbish American & Canadian Liberals. They have never learned to play well with others and consequently, they have a difficult time adjusting to adult conversations. Just sayin'...

MexJuan1
  4/20/2017 21:33 EST

You're welcome and thank you for "calling me out" like you did. I appreciated it as we all should when we're going overboard. I was a top notch athlete in my younger days and the most important lesson I ever learned in all of my athletic endeavours was humility. As well as taking criticism which you get in boat loads from overbearing Dad's, coaches, managers, fans etc (EVERYBODY!!! ;-) )

DeniseLR
  4/21/2017 00:02 EST

You got a point about some liberals, Rmzfn, style over substance at times, except you ain't so f'n tolerant yourself. Happy national weed day, Juan. (Cavs very big tonight, for Ohioans.) Seriously, about the weed! Let's hope it gets legalized in more states. Too tolerant for you, Rz?

Pedroal
  4/21/2017 16:14 EST

Good intentions seen as greed and stupidity by right wingers. Under Obama the world had hope. We tried to actually save $$ on healthcare by requiring insurance, just as with car owners. Preventive care might mitigate catastrophic health episodes and save lives of good people. Other methods of intervention were attempted in hot spots around the world, particularly economic sanctions with partner countries. Climate change, a major threat for the 21st century, was tackles and treaties attempted. Deportation of undocs continued, but more humanely. And we were trying to continue to decommission nukes and leave the Mideast alone whenever possible.
All through his presidency the Republicans made every attempt to thwart his every move, going so far as to accuse him of being a muslim, a communist and a fraud born in Kenya. And the right wing hate machine went to far as to call plans that may have been originally conceived by a conservative or libertarian dangerously radical.
Well, fools. Here you are. Now what? Do you feel safer, are you richer yet. Is the swamp drained yet or do we have to destroy all our social safety nets before all I'd right with your sad world. We didn't learn s.... from Junior, did we? Now we have a robber baron, a ruthless throwback to a US past hoped long dead. Not surprising he and Putin get along. They are the same thing when they look into each other's dead eyes.

Pedroal
  4/21/2017 16:42 EST

Just spent 10 minutes composing and submitting a post. Nada. Thought I'd try a shorter one + see if I'm socially acceptable now.
Hail Hydra, AO!

MexJuan1
  4/21/2017 17:29 EST

Good post Pedroal! Well, the rich ARE getting richer as evidenced by the Stock Market. The proposed AHCA was designed to kill off the sick, poor and elderly and rather than promote peace, we are now on the cusp of a Nuclear War. Not only with N. Korea but stirring up unsubstantiated accusations, at which he is a MASTER, against Iran that have been denounced by his own State Dept, saying that Iran is in compliance. All this will do is strengthen the hard liners in Iran that want to develop more nukes. he's "ginning" up War and controversy to deflect attention from his collusion with Russia to get elected. It won't work! he HATES Obama and is a RACIST AND BIGOT like many other of his "crew" (Bannon, Sessions, Miller etc) and no matter what it is, he just has this penchant and focus to undo EVEYTHING Obama did just due to his jealousy and hatred of Obama (a Black man who was accepted into the High Society social circles that in which he not accepted. Class vs No Class. And to answer your question, NO, The U.S. learned NOTHING from "W" who, almost, ruined the country. If this guy isn't chased, he will ruin the country and then some. Just a sideline: They've now reported over 5,000 non criminal illegal immigrants including DACA. If you're an American Expat in Mexico, better not over stay your Visa and you'd better have your papers in order if you have them. It may not matter, anyway if this continues...?

Pedroal
  4/21/2017 18:09 EST

Gracias, que lastima que mas no escuchan las lecciones de historia.

MexJuan1
  4/22/2017 04:01 EST

The "Psycho" president of The (failing) United States is, in aid to his Rich and Wealthy "friends", has, now, signed orders taking aim at repealing Dodd-Frank leading back to total deregulation for Banks and Wall Street so, if you've got a 401K or Mutual Funds, Stocks etc, be forewarned! The Architect, Robert Rubin )and good friend of Steve Mnuchin) former co-chairman at Goldman Sachs and author of the late 90's dereg laws that lead to the financial collapse of 2008 is advising. Mnuchin also a GS Alum, now Secy of the Treasury and the "get rich by kicking ppl out of their homes guy" in cahoots with the DEVIL is attempting to return us to the crookery of Big Banks and Wall Street that, without the genius of President Obama and his, competent Staff and Cabinet would have financially bankrupt America and much of the World from the further dereg policies of The Texas Dumbass "W". In concert with thede efforts, Big Banks, so far in just 4 months of 2017 have bought 1 TRILLION $ in assets and large amounts of Retail and Commercial Debt are being swept up by Wall Street. A precursor to another Mortgage Default Scam of 2007-08. The American Economy is weak, the unemployment % is pure "FAKE NEWS" and jobs are NOT coming back like the Liar in Chief said they would.. GDP Growth in March a paltry 1.6% and with current deportations, Huge Republican Farmers, Growers, Meat Packers, Construction Contractors, etc are not able to replace cheap immigrant labor with Americans who WILL NOT EVEN ANSWER ADS to work for Minimum Wage (or less) so they will struggle as well. They voted for this idiot so I hope they fail miserably like their "Savior" has. So, bottom line, PROTECT YOUR INVESTMENTS! Yes, it's going to take a little while to happen but, the strong effort to go back to dereg policies that made the Rich Wealthy and all but destroyed the American Middle Class are "in the works". Consumer Protections are all but gone and we're headed for, yet, another deep and steep decline. Billionaire investors like Buffet are hoarding cash. Others are investing in Bitcoin and Muni Bonds, Gold and Silver, which is what I did, already, with my money when The Dow hit 21,000. There's been a, somewhat, steady decline since hitting that mark. If you're wealthy, you're good to go. If you're anywhere in the spectrum of the Middle Class, you'd do best to get on the defensive from the designated by 41,000 Psychiatric Professionals who have signed a Petition to remove DJT from office due to his Mental Instability as per Article 4 of the 25th Amendment citing that he is Mentally Unfit to serve his duties to the American Public as president. Like that revelation was a mystery already? BUYER BEWARE!!!

katzgar
  4/22/2017 08:34 EST

Der schmittle is und der vottlemitten fettle mippen mit der hitten ya! Ya!

katzgar
  4/22/2017 08:34 EST

Der schmittle is und der vottlemitten fettle mippen mit der hitten ya! Ya!

katzgar
  4/22/2017 08:36 EST

Der schmittle is und der vottlemitten fettle mippen mit der hitten ya! Ya!

katzgar
  4/22/2017 08:36 EST

Der schmittle is und der vottlemitten fettle mippen mit der hitten ya! Ya!

katzgar
  4/22/2017 08:36 EST

Der schmittle is und der vottlemitten fettle mippen mit der hitten ya! Ya!

giershift43
  4/22/2017 09:20 EST

Pedroal,
I agree. The ACA was an effort to improve the health care system and a political compromise. Even years later many uninformed people did not understand that it was never meant to create health insurance at no charge. Seriously one of the complaints was "I make good money and am not eligible for free health insurance." I support Bernie Sanders vision of Medicare for all to keep it simple as possible. But the corruption and profit motive in health insurance perpetuates the mess and exorbitant costs.

giershift43
  4/22/2017 09:27 EST

They know they are setting up the people to make another killing for cheap assets. Deregulation is a license to steal and cheat. I need to get back to buying more gold. I review the markets daily. I try to figure out to pay off more of mortgages on rental homes or just buy gold, so if I have to leave the country fast it will spend anywhere. Then I calm down and hope that it will not be as bad as I worried it will get. Sometimes I think no matter what, there will be no where to run.

katzgar
  4/22/2017 09:39 EST

I know paranoid hysteria is the in thing now but things have been much worse in the past. The ones that have it tough are the low education boomers, the ones that are loosing their jobs to automation. Overall the US economy is doing quite well. Should one be in the go hide before things collapse mindset really have thought things through. Should the US collapse and demand for Mexican oil and remittances from the US dry up and demand for Mexican mfg'd products dry up the Mexican economy will collapse. Expats will be nothing but targets for the newly impoverished Mexicans even more so than they are now.

katzgar
  4/22/2017 09:39 EST

I know paranoid hysteria is the in thing now but things have been much worse in the past. The ones that have it tough are the low education boomers, the ones that are loosing their jobs to automation. Overall the US economy is doing quite well. Should one be in the go hide before things collapse mindset really have thought things through. Should the US collapse and demand for Mexican oil and remittances from the US dry up and demand for Mexican mfg'd products dry up the Mexican economy will collapse. Expats will be nothing but targets for the newly impoverished Mexicans even more so than they are now.

giershift43
  4/22/2017 09:41 EST

I subscribe to an expat Ecuador website too. But I still plan on Mexico. I mention this because the discussion on this site is not so different. Here is a quote from the Ecuadorian site: "it may come to pass that Trump will find himself hoisted on his own petard or in this case his own cannard !"

giershift43
  4/22/2017 09:44 EST

Mexjuan are are living in Mexico as you invest?

I just struggle with buying a house there and then having income, if it all comes to collapse. No way to feel safe.

MexJuan1
  4/22/2017 09:47 EST

Yes but, I won't buy here. Too many variables and chances to take. Rent is cheap and I'm not tied down...

giershift43
  4/22/2017 10:44 EST

We hope to move by 2018. Buying or not is a big issue. I have only rented 2 years in my life, so it is hard to get used to thinking that way. But being free to travel is I want matters too.

Cozumeldeb
  4/22/2017 10:44 EST

I've posted in the past, we bought in MX in 2001, pre retirement, rented it out and then retired in 2010, never have we regretted it. We still have our home in the US and split time..But in today's Twilight Zone world, Mexico is the best full-time choice IMO.

MexJuan1
  4/22/2017 10:51 EST

Renting leaves you free from everything other than paying rent and I have one utility, electric that is so inexpensive I should be ashamed of it! No Real Estate Taxes, Renters ins is pennies or pesos. I keep my place near and clean. Come and go as I please with other ppl there to keep an eye on things. It's imperative to maintain friendly relationships with other tenants. I did build a safe bolted into my wall though for cash and important papers. It's a great life! For me, anyway.

Ramzfan
  4/22/2017 10:56 EST

Hahahahaha hahahahaha.....stop it gardener....! Hahahahaha...I can't take any more...!

Cozumeldeb
  4/22/2017 10:57 EST

I always advise folks to rent or Airbnb for at least a yr or more..Real time living v vacationing is not the same..Rents are usually lower than US. Also need to decide house or condo. We went condo route, reluctantly, never having lived in one, but it was a good move for us..Turnkey and safety 2 good reasons, no problems when you are gone, full time security. I've listened to many people, "I want to live in the community with the wonderful MX people, and they are wonderful people..But there is NO zoning in MX and these people don't sleep, neither do their chickens, dogs, horses etc..Had friends who built a beautiful home, after a few yrs the lot next door became a dumping site and across the street all nite bar opened up..We love MX!

Cozumeldeb
  4/22/2017 10:59 EST

Agree it is paradise..Enjoy life now.

MexJuan1
  4/22/2017 11:13 EST

Happy Earth Day! Here Are All The Terrible Things Donald Trump Has Done So Far.
Here are some of the major ways President Trump has changed climate and environmental policy in his first 100 days.

By Dominique Mosbergen

MexJuan1
  4/22/2017 11:17 EST

President Donald Trump gave many signals on the campaign trail that his presidency would be a disaster for the environment. He called global warming a “hoax” and “bs” vowed to dismantle the Environmental Protection Agency, and undo regulations to revive the fossil fuel industry.

Almost 100 days into Trump’s tenure, the fears of environmentalists, scientists, public health advocates have been confirmed — and then some.

MexJuan1
  4/22/2017 11:18 EST

On the day Trump took office, a page devoted to climate change action on the White House website disappeared. Four days later, Trump signed executive orders reviving the controversial Keystone XL and Dakota Access pipelines, a move that set the tone for a series of swift and sweeping changes to the nation’s climate and environmental policies that were soon to follow.

MexJuan1
  4/22/2017 11:20 EST

Dismantling environmental protections is one area where Trump has made quick work. “Donald Trump’s foreign policy and legislative agenda may be a confused mess,” wrote the Los Angeles Times’ David Horsey earlier this month. “But his administration’s attack on the environment is operating with the focus and zeal of the Spanish Inquisition.”

On Saturday, April 22 ? Earth Day ? thousands of scientists and environmentalists will be marching on the National Mall to push back against what they say is Trump’s blatant disregard for science and his assault on the planet. Here’s an abbreviated timeline of some of the major environmental actions Trump has taken in his first 100 days.

MexJuan1
  4/22/2017 11:24 EST

Trump signed legislation repealing the Stream Protection Rule, an Obama-era regulation that sought to protect U.S. waterways from coal mining operations. The rule required coal mining companies to avoid practices “that permanently pollute streams, destroy drinking water sources, increase flood risk and threaten forests.” The regulation mandated the testing and monitoring of waterways before, during and after mining operations, and required companies that had used controversial practices like mountaintop removal mining to restore land to its “previous condition” once mining is complete.

MexJuan1
  4/22/2017 11:32 EST

Feb. 28, 2017: Clean Water Rule threatened

The president signed an executive order aimed at dismantling the Waters of the United States rule, also known as WOTUS or the Clean Water Rule. Trump instructed the EPA and the Army Corps of Engineers to reconsider the environmental rule that designated which of the nation’s waterways should be protected under the federal Clean Water Act. The rule extended protection to 2 million miles of streams and 20 million acres of wetlands that hadn’t been clearly covered under the original law. A repeal of the rule could threaten the drinking water of 117 million Americans and the health of many species, including endangered birds and marine life. Food safety and industries from farming to recreation safe water regulations could be thrown out

MexJuan1
  4/22/2017 11:33 EST

March 2, 2017: Methane emissions info scrapped

The EPA threw out a regulation requiring oil and gas companies to provide more detailed information about their drilling facilities, including reporting on what equipment they use and how much methane, a potent greenhouse gas, is emitted. “Today’s action will reduce burdens on businesses while we take a closer look at the need for additional information from this industry,” Pruitt, the EPA administrator, said. The methane rule was seen as a critical component of the U.S. plan to slash emissions as part of the Paris climate agreement.

MexJuan1
  4/22/2017 11:35 EST

As first reported by The New Republic, the EPA’s Office of Science and Technology removed the word “science” from its mission statement.

March 15, 2017: Car pollution standards rolled back

As automakers pushed the Trump administration to lift regulations on their industry, Pruitt announced that the EPA would reconsider Obama-era fuel-efficiency standards for some vehicles.

MexJuan1
  4/22/2017 11:39 EST

Obama had introduced rules aimed at limiting greenhouse gas emissions from passenger vehicles, in a bid to reduce the carbon footprint of the U.S. transportation sector, which accounts for one-third of the country’s CO2 emissions. Based on those rules, carmakers would be required to have an average fuel-economy rating of 54.5 miles per gallon across its entire fleet sold in the U.S. by 2025 (or about 36 miles per gallon in real-world driving). According to an EPA report released in the last days of Obama’s tenure, this new standard would reduce greenhouse gas emissions by an estimated 6 billion metric tons over the lifetime of the new vehicles.

MexJuan1
  4/22/2017 11:40 EST

Trump, however, has signaled that he wants to roll back these regulations as much as possible. As Vox explained, Obama’s fuel economy targets are more or less locked in through 2021, but the door remains open for changes between 2022 and 2025.

Pruitt said his agency would be taking a “fresh look” at the 2022-2025 standards. These rules are “costly for automakers and the American people,” he said.

Pedroal
  4/22/2017 11:41 EST

Wow! I hope another financial collapse due to repeal, or just ignoring, of financial regs put in place to avoid such an event, isn't the real 'swamp draining' that is coming. Last time it was world wide. Sometimes people don't get that.
Just heard last night Syrian Air
force relocated to a Russian air
force base so, as usual devil is in the details and military analysts seem to think this was an error (
big f...up)
Cal or write congressman and support sane candidates. Please.

giershift43
  4/22/2017 11:49 EST

The ruining of the nation.

giershift43
  4/22/2017 11:52 EST

Trump or not the move forward is for less dependency on oil. Tesla is an example. Trump is trying to help out his oil billionaire buddies at the expense of clean air and human lives.

giershift43
  4/22/2017 11:55 EST

Instead of protecting the people from corporate greed. Trump is sacrificing people for profits. Let the suffering begin!!

Ramzfan
  4/22/2017 11:56 EST

MexJuan, you whine about how the people who have money make too much of it, and the middle class doesn't have a chance at survival. Do you realize how many jobs were lost with most of Obamas unnecessary EPA regulations? Do you know how many jobs were lost when he shut down the coal industry? You can't have it both ways. DJT is bringing back jobs and just because of your blinding hatred for him and capitalism, you have to admit that America is once again on its way to being the world leader again. Hell, it's only been 3 months...wait until you see us a year from now!

MexJuan1
  4/22/2017 12:00 EST

The White House released its preliminary “skinny budget,” which proposed deep and sweeping cuts to several science and environmental agencies, including the EPA and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. The budget proposed a 30 percent reduction in EPA funding — a cut that could see hundreds of people involved in climate change change research losing their jobs and the elimination of more than 50 EPA programs.
The budget would also slash Energy Star, the voluntary initiative that boosts energy efficiency in appliances, electronics and buildings. Grants for ozone pollution cleanup efforts and international climate programs like the United Nations’ Green Climate Fund, would cease, as would some funding for the cleanup of several of America’s most important water bodies, including the Great Lakes, the largest surface freshwater ecosystem in the Western Hemisphere, and the Chesapeake Bay, the nation’s largest natural estuary.
The budget also proposes halving the funding for enfir Act, which aims at reducing air pollution, and removing funding completely for the Clean Power Plan (more on that below).


March 28, 2017: Trump takes aim at Obama’s climate plan

Trump signed the “Energy Independence Executive Order,” a directive that weakens many Obama-era climate and clean energy initiatives. First, the order called for a review of the Clean Power Plan, Obama’s signature program to fight global warming and one that was central to America’s plan to reach the goals laid out in the Paris climate agreement. The plan aimed to reduce carbon emissions from existing power plants by 32 percent below 2005 levels by 2030.
The executive order also reversed Obama’s moratorium on new coal mining leases on federal lands, and instructed the Department of Interior (led by former Montana congressman and climate skeptic, Ryan Zinke) to begin reviewing several regulations for oil and gas extraction on federal lands, including national parks.
The directive made clear that the Trump administration would be abandoning Obama’s climate roadmap. “We have a different view about how you should address climate policy in the U.S., and we’re going in a different direction,” a senior White House official told reporters the day before the executive order was signed.
" I can’t get into ultimately what that means from an emissions standpoint,” the official added. “I have no idea.”
The EPA asked a federal appeals court to delay arguments over a rule that prevents coal-fired power plants from releasing toxic chemicals, including mercury, lead, arsenic and other pollutants, into the environment. In its court filing, the agency said it wants to first review the regulation as “prior positions taken by the Agency … may not necessarily reflect its ultimate conclusions after that review is complete.”
The filing came days after Pruitt announced his intention to postpone compliance deadlines for the Mercury and Air Toxics Standard (MATS) rule, which was finalized in 2011 and is currently in effect. “I have decided that it is appropriate and in the public interest to reconsider the rule,” Pruitt wrote in an April 12 letter.
The MATS rule has been tied up in the court system for years. Shortly after the regulation was finalized, a coalition of industry groups and conservative states ? including Oklahoma, which Pruitt then represented ? sued the EPA to stop it. In 2016, Pruitt sued a second time to block the regulation.
The D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals was expected to hear oral arguments on May 18 to determine whether the rule should be upheld, after a 5-4 Supreme Court decision led by Justice Antonin Scalia found the EPA had not adequately considered the regulation’s cost.
This is an argument Pruitt has repeatedly touted, claiming that the MATS rule would put an undue financial burden on the energy industry. However, as the Associated Press notes, most power plants nationwide are already on track to comply with the new standards. According to the Environmental Defense Fund, companies have been able to accomplish this at a fraction of the expected cost.
The rule is expected to have a tremendous impact on public health. An earlier EPA analysis concluded that the regulation would prevent up to 11,000 premature deaths, 4,700 heart attacks, and 130,000 asthma attacks every year.
Rhea Suh, the president of the National Resources Defense Council, called the past three months “100 Days of Harm.”

“Like any arbitrary benchmark, the 100-day point of a new president’s term normally tells us only so much about what’s to come. In the case of President Trump’s all-out assault on our environment and health,however, we’ve already seen more than enough,” wrote Suh in a recent column. “Trump has acted again and again to undo half a century of bipartisan progress in protecting our rights to clean water, air, and lands. He’s moved to part ways with longstanding American values of conservation in the public interest. And he’s betrayed the covenant we’ve forged with our children to leave them a livable world.”

More than 60 percent of Americans said they disapproved of how Trump is handling the environment in an April Quinnipiac University poll. Fifty-two percent of respondents said they “are embarrassed to have Trump as president.”

Activists have said it’s not too late to stop Trump’s anti-climate and anti-environment agenda. While his executive orders have garnered a lot of hype, a majority of them have not yet had a substantive impact on actual policy.


Concerned citizens just have to be swift, and smart, in combating these threats.

“We can’t afford to focus all of our energy on reacting to the parade of bad ideas and morally bankrupt policies that are pouring out of Washington,” wrote Sierra Club’s Executive Director Michael Brune in an op-ed last month. “We must also push back with better ideas and smarter policies for the world that we want to create.” SORRY FOR ALL OF THIS BUT, I WANTED TO PRESENT ALL THE FACTS THAT THIS UNEDUCATED MORON IS DESTROYING AMERICA AND, ULTIMATELY, THE PLANET ALL FOR THE SAKE OF MONEY!!! AND THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING IF HE ISN'T CHASED OUT... SO, HAVE A GREAT DAY!

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giershift43
  4/22/2017 12:00 EST

LOL. great description. I have read postings that describe what they hate about Mexico. It was so funny. We generally like the openness and cows mooing or the Gas sellers are simply amusing to us.

DeniseLR
  4/22/2017 12:01 EST

Things have been worse in the past. We've had 5 mass extinctions. I know that sounds glib, but most no longer remember the Great depression and WW2, or even the Vietnam war and Cuban misdle crisis. That is part of the problem. Even the last recession, which came very close to being worldwide, is not remembered, or if so dimly, many young voters. Climate change seems pretty devastating and irreversible, and what sort of armed conflicts will that spawn? Let's at least fight locally when we can and try to get Congress back. Don't like Dems that much at times either, but what choice??? Go Green Party or whatever if it works where you live.

giershift43
  4/22/2017 12:04 EST

So Cozumeldeb,
Where did you buy?

What I liked about Lake Chapala among other things was the climate. Never too hot nor cold. I already live in a Condo in the States and there are pros and cons as with all types of living situations. I like not having to arrange for yard work or even think about it. My best wishes to those marching in Washington today. You can't make America great through ignorance.

katzgar
  4/22/2017 12:07 EST

MexJuan, you whine about how the people who have money make too much of it, and the middle class doesn't have a chance at survival. Do you realize how many jobs were lost with most of Obamas unnecessary EPA regulations? Do you know how many jobs were lost when he shut down the coal industry? You can't have it both ways. DJT is bringing back jobs and just because of your blinding hatred for him and capitalism, you have to admit that America is once again on its way to being the world leader again. Hell, it's only been 3 months...wait until you see us a year from now!

your post is just made up right wing crap. We had a black man in the WH and you just need to man up and accept it.

katzgar
  4/22/2017 12:07 EST

MexJuan, you whine about how the people who have money make too much of it, and the middle class doesn't have a chance at survival. Do you realize how many jobs were lost with most of Obamas unnecessary EPA regulations? Do you know how many jobs were lost when he shut down the coal industry? You can't have it both ways. DJT is bringing back jobs and just because of your blinding hatred for him and capitalism, you have to admit that America is once again on its way to being the world leader again. Hell, it's only been 3 months...wait until you see us a year from now!

your post is just made up right wing crap. We had a black man in the WH and you just need to man up and accept it.

katzgar
  4/22/2017 12:07 EST

MexJuan, you whine about how the people who have money make too much of it, and the middle class doesn't have a chance at survival. Do you realize how many jobs were lost with most of Obamas unnecessary EPA regulations? Do you know how many jobs were lost when he shut down the coal industry? You can't have it both ways. DJT is bringing back jobs and just because of your blinding hatred for him and capitalism, you have to admit that America is once again on its way to being the world leader again. Hell, it's only been 3 months...wait until you see us a year from now!

your post is just made up right wing crap. We had a black man in the WH and you just need to man up and accept it.

DeniseLR
  4/22/2017 12:13 EST

Katzgar, I apologize. I thought you had some brains. Define 'Great'. I thought you said we were never not great in some post. Hate to day it but your rhetoric sounds a little like a crazy, part Jewish Austrian house painter. Congratulations! You've won the dumb ass over the top award.

giershift43
  4/22/2017 12:13 EST

On youtube check out the "Patriots" video. Well done. Resist hatred and racism!!

MexJuan1
  4/22/2017 12:17 EST

I see now. You're just another delusional Racist. Part of the 35% that would follow that criminal into Hell. That's fine! Enjoy the ride and we'll see. We'll see.

MexJuan1
  4/22/2017 12:25 EST

Good call Denise and kat, I don't HATE trump or rich ppl or anyone. I, believe, I've explained that several times. Hate is not an emotion that I carry around. Too much negative baggage. What I have no tolerance for, you might say, is stupidity, ignorance and incompetence. Three traits "your man" and the 35%er's have in spades. he is SO ENAMOURED by himself and you ppl are so enamoured by him that he can do and say, literally, anything and he and you buy a into it, regardless of any facts or truth or any common sense. It's just unconscionable and defies definition beyond being a Cult.

MexJuan1
  4/22/2017 12:29 EST

;-) I believe that "sanity" has left the room Pedro, I'm afraid.

giershift43
  4/22/2017 12:29 EST

Things were blamed on Obama that were not his creation. The economy is changing no matter who is the President. Blaming Obama is like an echo chamber of dupes parroting who is to blame with no real solutions except redirecting the blame. Climate change is real and the economic collapse of 2008 was caused by deregulation, not Obama. But that requires actually spending time gathering facts, not alternate facts. We need air and water and the land is still being lost to rising waters. Pretending climate change is not real is not a solution.

giershift43
  4/22/2017 12:33 EST

I do not have the energy to hate nor is it productive. Turning reason that does not support your beliefs is now labeled hate. The echo chamber goes on... and on... Don't think just label and redirect,

giershift43
  4/22/2017 12:36 EST

I do not hear Mexjuan whine. He makes good points and the world is on edge. If I do not agree with you and think Trump is making bad decisions that will hurt most people, is that how you define whining? You do sound like a line from a WWII movie NAZi describing Jews. "always whining on their way to the camps."

giershift43
  4/22/2017 12:39 EST

Today Trump says he is visiting Walter Reed while he "It sounds nice for the President to say that he’s going to visit the Walter Reed Medical Center, right? It’s nice for Trump to identify the people being treated at that facility as “our bravest and greatest,” right?

Well, not entirely. The problem is simply that for Trump to make a show of honor for American veterans is nothing more than a flimsy cover-up for his overall disrespect for the armed forces. Trump, for instance, in treating the prospect of going to war so lightly, has shown himself to have little to no regard for the very lives of the members of U.S. Armed Forces.

Trump is simply using his comments here, and the visit as a whole, to justify keeping American veterans and current members of the Armed Forces in a state of endless terror. Trump has done nothing for the floundering American veterans’ healthcare system, and he’s cut funding to other important social programs for veterans as well."

DeniseLR
  4/22/2017 12:40 EST

If you are enlightened enough to do what needs to be done without hate more power to you. I cant, thougn I admit it frequently clouds reason and doesnt help. I do believe in forgiveness and redemption. How about disgust, anger, distaste, revulsion.? You sound pretty pissed at times, Juan, justifiably. I just think sometimes, well... What does the poor Peruvian farmer who has just had his family die because medicines donated by the international community were kept and sold by a corrupt Lima politician? Not being frivolous, just don't know how to avoid hatred sometimes in face of vicious, senseless cruelty and stupidity.

giershift43
  4/22/2017 12:45 EST

I am kind to incompetent people, but not in positions of power. Not ones that lead a cult to destroy the nation. And that is what we are witnessing. I remember when we were allowed and respected for having differences of opinions. Now they label anyone who does not agree and repeat the echo ...

Who will be blamed next and if one cannot argue the facts, they argue the source and make up alternate facts to do anything to cover self serving actions and decisions. Being racist and sexist is now ok because it is simply anti-political correctness. Let's redefine morality to excuse any immoral decision for political expedience.

MexJuan1
  4/22/2017 12:47 EST

It's just Whites hating the Black Man. Plain and simple. Makes it much easier for them to blame and hate him. It's "built in" to his skin color. I read an article once (I don't remember where so don't bug me about sources, OK?) about how the White Guts are bothered by Black ppl at their Golf Clubs. Even if it was President Obama. They just don't want them in their "Good 'Ol Boys" Rich WHITE MENS place. Racism is alive and doing very, very well in America and will grow, exponentially, during this administration. I read this morning that the appointee to head the Civil Rights Dept. is a Stanford Grad, White Woman known for Racial Discrimination Lawsuits against, you guessed it, WHITE PPL. Like I said "SANITY" has left the room. Just another anti agency appointee with a "lean" against the Dept. Like Pruitt to the EPA. So much for fresh air, clean drinking water and Civil Rights but, just what The White Supremacists and Racists want! Makes no logical sense but, that's we we have, right now, anyway...

giershift43
  4/22/2017 12:52 EST

Funny in the last economic crisis, I did not see a lot of rich people losing their job. They cleaned up on what the economically distressed were forced to lose. The only time there is worry about the deficit is if there are programs that help the majority of the people. How about raising taxes on those who have the wealth. No jobs are created without demand and that is created when most people have more money, not just a few. There has been a lot of money made but not shared by all. It goes to the top at the expense of the rest of us including low wages or wages so low they are eligible for food stamps. Then the ruling classes solution is cut the food stamps and blame the poor. More than 30 years of the trickle down failure and lie.

giershift43
  4/22/2017 12:54 EST

Not a single member of Congress who reps the territory on the southwest border supports Trump’s border wall request

MexJuan1
  4/22/2017 13:03 EST

Well, his 35% supporters emulate and imitate what he does so, there you have the genesis. We're back to, "if Bobby jumped off a cliff would you follow him? " kid stuff.

giershift43
  4/22/2017 13:09 EST

‘As Trump likes to say, the election is over. How about less campaigning, more learning how government actually works? When things don’t go well Trump goes into his MAGA bubble, the 30% of Americans who actually like him. Put away the binky, expand the tent.’

Trump just recently announced that a strong dollar is bad for American manufacturing. How dumb is that. He sounds like a young teenager who just discovered what all the adults already knew. It is bad news that his ignorance leads.

giershift43
  4/22/2017 13:10 EST

‘As Trump likes to say, the election is over. How about less campaigning, more learning how government actually works? When things don’t go well Trump goes into his MAGA bubble, the 30% of Americans who actually like him. Put away the binky, expand the tent.’

Trump just recently announced that a strong dollar is bad for American manufacturing. How dumb is that. He sounds like a young teenager who just discovered what all the adults already knew. It is bad news that his ignorance leads. Americans will still buy elsewhere. It will make foreign goods cheaper.

giershift43
  4/22/2017 13:16 EST

A stat of interest 700 deaths due to shooting in Chicago. 2 a day. My nephew lives there. Ajijic seemed pretty safe to me.

Ramzfan
  4/22/2017 13:35 EST

Pure liberal speculation Gier...give him a chance...!

katzgar
  4/22/2017 13:37 EST

"Katzgar, I apologize. I thought you had some brains. Define 'Great'. I thought you said we were never not great in some post. Hate to day it but your rhetoric sounds a little like a crazy, part Jewish Austrian house painter. Congratulations! You've won the dumb ass over the top award."


I neglected to put the quotes in, you will see that the top part of the quote is not my statement but that would requiure you to pay attention. The bottom part are my words.

katzgar
  4/22/2017 13:37 EST

"Katzgar, I apologize. I thought you had some brains. Define 'Great'. I thought you said we were never not great in some post. Hate to day it but your rhetoric sounds a little like a crazy, part Jewish Austrian house painter. Congratulations! You've won the dumb ass over the top award."


I neglected to put the quotes in, you will see that the top part of the quote is not my statement but that would requiure you to pay attention. The bottom part are my words.

Ramzfan
  4/22/2017 13:42 EST

I have no argument with anything that the gardener wrote.(except for his last capitalized paragraph) He's right! Ain't it great...? Go Trump!

giershift43
  4/22/2017 14:09 EST

LABEL AND DISPOSE same old same old.

MexJuan1
  4/22/2017 14:20 EST

I'll tell you what "ram". I'll give him a chance when he stops punishing the every day working man and the poor and disenfranchised. I'll give him a chance when he stops lying and making false accusations to attempt to deflect from his campaigns involvement with Russia. I'll give him a chance when he starts, actually, doing what he days he'll do like NOT deport non criminal immigrants or Dreamers. I'll give him a chance when he and the Republican Party introduce and pass an, actual, health care plan and not one that discriminated against
the sick, poor and elderly and was just a huge tax break for his wealthy friends. I'll give him a chance when he starts to listen to ppl, Scientists with degrees who have solid research on Climate Change which, by the way, most of the rest of the knowledgeable World ascribes too. I'll give him a chance when he wants to find out the truth about Russia's intervention into our Democratic System instead of scamming with a Chairman of one of the investigatory committees. I'll give him a chance when he develops something more than a "knee jerk" foreign policy based on his spoiled brat, Silver Spoon Daughter's emotions. I'll give him a chance when he starts spending time "working" in the White House" like he said he would and stops spending 3+ million $/ weekend golfing, on average, every 3rd day since in office. I'll give him a chance when he stops violating the numerous ethics violations that he's been violating since day one. I'll give him a chance when (too late for this one, of course) he starts appointing qualified ppl to Cabinet and Advisor positions and not just friends, family and loyalists (multi million dollar contributors) who are anti whatever agency he nominates for or appoints to and not qualified. I'll give him a chance when he stops bragging about his "Big League" Electoral College victory and admitting he lost the Popular Vote by 2.8M. I'll give him a chance when he starts acting like an adult and not a spoiled brat, 13 year old rich kid who is taking advantage of his situation. I'll give him a chance when he stops using the office he has no business in for personal and family gain... In other words, when Hell freezes over because he'll never do ANY of those things. he's nothing more than a crooked, con man business man who lied to and scammed ppl, built buildings, cheated and destroyed ppl and destroyed the environment. Pretty much the same thing he's doing now. he's received a chance he should never have received and with further investigation into his and his cronies crimes (treason,collusion with an enemy nation, perjury), with any luck, it won't last much longer...

giershift43
  4/22/2017 14:31 EST

How do cuts in science and education make a nation great. Keep them ignorant and repeat propaganda. That is what dictators do. That is what Trump is doing. If our nation comes a part and weakened by ignorance, he will have helped his buddy, Putin. As long as he enriches himself and his family and tells you to hate your allies, he is making the nation what???

nelsonokelmgmailcom
  4/22/2017 15:18 EST

MexJuan1 VERY WELL SAID. Ram needs to crawl back under his rock with the other trolls. T Rump is a total disaster for common people in the USA. He is bought and paid for just like ALL ReThugLican politicians and a few democrats. Their anti-science, anti-education, anti-woman, anti-intellectual, anti-arts, anti-minority, and anti-democracy ways are destroying the planet and society as we know it. Impeach Rump, Pence, and Ryan, at the very least, for crimes against humanity and treason.

worxs
  4/22/2017 15:36 EST

I guess we have a fifth libtard. Half Nelson....Hang in there Ram!!

LOL So many redistribution of wealth supporters... so little money

DeniseLR
  4/22/2017 15:43 EST

Yup, Katzgar. You don't see yourself as a little crazy quoting someone's post to make, not just an obscure, but a nonexistent point.

DeniseLR
  4/22/2017 15:53 EST

Apologies if I am misinterpreting anyone's post. Sometimes tone is everything and it is hard to pick up on sarcasm, irony etc. And for the budget expert who made the last post I read, there seems to be plenty of $$$ for bombs. How much do you think that big one we just dropped in Afghanistan cost? You should know, being a budget expert and all....
(That was sarcasm.)

DeniseLR
  4/22/2017 15:54 EST

Apologies if I am misinterpreting anyone's post. Sometimes tone is everything and it is hard to pick up on sarcasm, irony etc. And for the budget expert who made the last post I read, there seems to be plenty of $$$ for bombs. How much do you think that big one we just dropped in Afghanistan cost? You should know, being a budget expert and all....
(That was sarcasm.)

giershift43
  4/22/2017 16:00 EST

Money for war, but nothing for the people. We can afford health care and education and that would make a greater . War won't .
Tonight check out Netflix Bill Nye saves the world. Not Donald Trump!!

giershift43
  4/22/2017 16:02 EST

Ram might benefit from a reprogramming camp for cult members.

giershift43
  4/22/2017 16:02 EST

Ram might benefit from a reprogramming camp for cult members.

Ramzfan
  4/22/2017 16:06 EST

Right Gier, you sound like a true economics major. I'd love to see you go head to head with someone like Trump, who actually understands how the economy and making a profit works. You libbies think you have everything figured out, but the truth is, your desired economy is based upon sharing someone else's wealth...!

giershift43
  4/22/2017 16:09 EST

Name calling does not answer questions nor identify nor address issues . American has never been wealthier. The weath has been concentrated in the hands of a few or the Oligarch. They tell you to blame the poor to distract you from seeing what's going on. It's easier to control the uneducated so dumbing down the public serves their purpose

MexJuan1
  4/22/2017 16:28 EST

Hey, everybody does what they do best! And the "Dumbing Down" of America has been happening for 15-20 years now with "W"'s "No Child Left Behind". My daughter is 36, her husband 37. Both teachers, both quit years ago due to just getting kids ready to pass tests and not, really, teaching. Plus the fact that the kids are so bad and misbehaved and as a teacher, you can do NOTHING but send them to the Principal who can do NOTHING as well. They're back in class later that day or the next. DeVos ruined education in Michigan, just ask a Michigander or read about it. The Education Budget is being cut to build that ridiculous wall so, she'll have less to work with doing the same poor job. Hell, her family gave 200Mil to trump for his campaign. Maybe they can finance a proper education for the country? They'll have to concentrate on keeping her brother out of jail first though for setting up that "back line" of communication between trump and Putin through Dubai and his Blackrock Co.... Tough break... ;-)

giershift43
  4/22/2017 16:28 EST

I do have a B.A. in economics from Cleveland State U. I just didn't have my father loan me a million dollars and then bail my failing casino out.
I have invested pretty well on my own.
But I still do not know why you are on this site? You think Trump has created a promised land, be happy and live there.

I swear I have not nor needed to file bankruptcy once. I did not open a fraudulent school to rip off people either nor stiff even on contractor.

But you like rhetoric over reality. Enjoy

giershift43
  4/22/2017 16:31 EST

I do understand compound interest pretty well and Trump could have more leaving a Million in the stock market for 30 years.

How many great people need to tell you they are great. Seriously

giershift43
  4/22/2017 16:40 EST

Ramz what makes you an expert, echoing what Trump tells you?? He tells you he is great. He tells you he will make everything great. He also is a habitual liar. But a great one. Anyone who has to brag about himself isn't great in my eyes. If making a lot of money makes you great, you must love Al Capone.. It doesn't matter if you lie and cheat and take advantage of others, just steal all one kind.

Cozumeldeb
  4/22/2017 16:56 EST

Ramzfan, you still hanging around? Thought you'd be in mourning losing O'Reilly Liar.. Obviously? you do not live in MX, definitely not your kind of place..And no sport in discussing facts +news with u...Your Man-child hero will be gone soon..FISA warrants will end it.

MexJuan1
  4/22/2017 17:10 EST

Well, not only is O'Reilly gone but, Alex Jones defense in attempting to gain custody of his children is that, he's a "Performance Artist" so, his buffoonery, bluster and Conspiracy Theories are ALL, just an "ACT" and not REAL!? Imagine that revelation to the right wingers who have used a Sexual Predator and a Fraud as their source of "Real News"? Including the trumpster. Yet, they have the cajones to call the legitimate media, Fake News. Shameless arrogance is quite an attractive character trait, is it not?

DeniseLR
  4/22/2017 17:23 EST

Actually, bonehead, I believe GS has B.A. in econ. Trump is a fu....ng developer who knows how a business works. Macroeconomics, not much of a clue. Not to say he is incompetent. I wish he was, he wouldn't be where he is. You cant really be that stupid,.can you? It has to be some kind of an act.

MexJuan1
  4/22/2017 17:33 EST

Won't be Charlie Sykes. They, probably, think he's a sell out because he tells the truth and appears on MSNBC. Tucker Carlson is an out and out, through and through, bald faced liar just like Rush and Hannity so it might be them. And there's always the "closet homosexual" Michael Savage, Mark Levin, a YUGE Conspiracy Theorist and The Wicked Witch of the Right, Ann Coulter! So many choices! What to do, what to do?

giershift43
  4/22/2017 18:06 EST

i have some business experience as well. Both for profit and nonprofit. I just didn't get handed a million dollars. I also treat people honestly.

giershift43
  4/22/2017 18:27 EST

Describing our best educated as elites to try to make them sound like education is bad has been part of the campaign to dumb down American. No nation can be great that keeps its people ignorant .

giershift43
  4/22/2017 18:35 EST

For Ramz they invented simple interest!

Cozumeldeb
  4/22/2017 18:44 EST

Giershift43, you are exactly right, and that's why 600 Science marches are happening all over today..People are resisting..FBI/Comey hurry up.

MexJuan1
  4/22/2017 18:47 EST

trump bragged 17-18 times (documented) about what and how much he would do in his first 100 days. Now that he's done nothing, "the benchmark is ridiculous" he says. That must be an example of his flexibility? This guy is a true sham who is out of his comfort zone and in way over his head...

MexJuan1
  4/22/2017 18:53 EST

I'm with you on Comes and the FBI Deb but, actually, I like the silence a bit. It tells me they've got plenty to work on and are being thorough. When something like this comes down, you want all your t's crossed and i's dotted and everything lined up so there's nowhere for the defendants to run. Get it right then drop it like a bomb!!

giershift43
  4/22/2017 19:49 EST

Meanwhile the Louisiana coastline is sinking and like some Monty Python movie as the water rises the deniers say that "It isn't happening."

giershift43
  4/22/2017 20:29 EST

former judge now serving as a school board member in suburban Cincinnati has been charged with felony human trafficking of a minor, felony inducing a minor to engage in sex and a third count of giving alcohol to a minor. The indictment was obtained by River City News publisher Michael Monks, who described Nolan as an, “outspoken and controversial” political figure.

Judge Tim Nolan of California, Kentucky represents District 5 on the Campbell County School Board. Yesterday afternoon he was lead into court wearing handcuffs as the “perp walk” was filmed by the local CBS station.

Just the kind of person one expects to support Trump.

giershift43
  4/22/2017 20:45 EST

The way Trump speaks who wrote his college term papers or did his father buy him a degree! Think about it.

Ramzfan
  4/22/2017 21:05 EST

I agree Gier, but that's what our country has been doing for the past eight + years...!

Ramzfan
  4/22/2017 21:10 EST

Oh yeah, "Global Warming" is happening Gier... we just had the biggest Winter in our history here in Reno, Nevada. More ice & snow than ever before...!

Ramzfan
  4/22/2017 21:15 EST

The way President Trump speaks is the way we all should speak...straightforward & to the point, no bullsh*t, say what you mean but be polite and mainly, avoid the political correctness...!

Ramzfan
  4/22/2017 21:23 EST

CozumelDeb...I use less government programs than what I pay taxes for, but you don't hear me bitching about anything except welfare, illegals & those that take unfair advantage of the system...!

giershift43
  4/22/2017 21:48 EST

Tell that to the people of the Marshall Islands . They are sinking and they had to leave.

Cozumeldeb
  4/22/2017 22:24 EST

Ramzfan, welfare is pennies v subsidies to Oil, Walmart and gazillions held offshore by Corporations, GE, Apple etc..U pay about $5 a month to people welfare..Don't be a guppies.

giershift43
  4/22/2017 22:29 EST

He does not sound honest nor direct. He sounds crude with poor grammar. Oh yeah. "I have a good brain." " I have the best words." Brilliant

giershift43
  4/22/2017 22:33 EST

Do you drive on roads? Did you attend public schools? Can you run a business without an infrastructure to conduct business. How about the sewer system and water ? Street lights and fire and police. Do you live in a cave?

MexJuan1
  4/22/2017 22:46 EST

Small minds attract small minds. Anyone who cites there's no Global Warming or Climate Change from a cold winter in Nevada has an amazingly small mind and an even smaller view of what is, actually in reality happening in the country and the World. I told everyone and now I know that he doesn't even have the capacity to comprehend anything beyond the idiocy of DJT. This is an individual with a truly low IQ...

giershift43
  4/22/2017 23:12 EST

Cozumeldeb is correct.

katzgar
  4/23/2017 06:05 EST

Ramzfan is your classic right-wing uneducated old white deplorable

katzgar
  4/23/2017 06:05 EST

Ramzfan is your classic right-wing uneducated old white deplorable

MexJuan1
  4/23/2017 06:59 EST

In doing some research this morning, the following is a list if the countries in the World that have, voluntarily, applied a Carbon Tax; They include: Denmark, Finland, Ireland, the Netherlands, Norway, Slovenia, Sweden, Switzerland, and the UK. Finland introduced the World's first carbon tax in 1990, initially with exemptions for specific sectors.Dec 9, 2016.............. Each one of these countries rank ahead of the United States in being Socially Progressive in providing for the needs of the ppl that live in these countries and rank ahead of the U.S. (way ahead of Mexico in the interest of full disclosure) in providing for the WELL BEING of their population. They are Socially Progressive, provide for the needs of their ppl and have set a foundation for the WELL BEING OF THE "PEOPLE". In other words and simpler terms, they CARE about how the ppl in their country are doing and their Quality of Life. The United States ranks 16th. Theses countries, also, rank higher than America (10th)
with the exception of one or two, Slovenia I know, in being Economically Successful and all are more Culturally Progressive and successful than the U.S. which is not even in the top 10. Admittedly and I'm sure that we all know, Mexico is far down the list in these categories. Not as far down as you might think though. Usually, somewhere in the 50's. When it comes to Medical Care and the quality thereof, the U.S ranks 37, just ahead of Slovenia. Mexico is at 61. And the highest, overall Crime Rates are in two countries. America and Canada. Belize ranks 4th, Mexico is #12. Knowing that I'll be attacked for my "sources" I checked and cited multiple source lists. So, bottom line, in what I and most conscientious thinking ppl would surmise, Mexico may not be the greatest place in which to live categorically but, it's very beautiful and pretty laid back, highly affordable and as long as you have your finances in order and take reasonable care to keep yourself safe, it's a pretty nice place to live. On the other hand and unless these various categories and statistics don't matter to you and you think with a, somewhat, simpler and narrow mind, the United States is not the "Greatest Country in which to live" any more, statistically speaking in the cited categories of which any reasonable person would deem, somewhat, important. As far as Political Stability goes, America ranks at 20, Mexico comes in at 72 out of 178 countries. The two most influential countries in the World are The United Sates (1) then Russia. Taking that last issue into consideration with the current charge of collusion between the two countries, the unpredictability of both leaders and the incompetence, lack of leadership and legislative abilities, level of distrust and corruption and steadily declining, abysmal approval and performance ratings, DJT has put the U.S. and the World at great risk with rates of decline in quality of life, to be fair, not all on his watch but, surely to fall or fail by his, apparent disdain to care for the population and the World's too as evidenced by his proposed but, thankfully, failed policies and his inept and Hawkish Foreign Policy. The sooner he's "shown the door" and on the way out, the better off the U.S. and the World will be!

katzgar
  4/23/2017 07:53 EST

your statements are ridiculous to the point of insanity. The us and Canada have the highest crime rate? Really? You must have found one of the bales from Colombia washed up on the beach. https://www.numbeo.com/crime/rankings_by_country.jsp

katzgar
  4/23/2017 07:53 EST

your statements are ridiculous to the point of insanity. The us and Canada have the highest crime rate? Really? You must have found one of the bales from Colombia washed up on the beach. https://www.numbeo.com/crime/rankings_by_country.jsp

katzgar
  4/23/2017 07:53 EST

your statements are ridiculous to the point of insanity. The us and Canada have the highest crime rate? Really? You must have found one of the bales from Colombia washed up on the beach. https://www.numbeo.com/crime/rankings_by_country.jsp

giershift43
  4/23/2017 08:57 EST

Kat, You are judging all of Mexico by one experience. That is the problem.
That is not how it is done. It does relate to crimes in other countries as well.
There is crime in Mexico and the U.S. and Canada. I have been the victim of crime in the U.S. From my experience to then describe the country as crime ridden invites a discussion of comparison to other countries.
I have been to Mexico and not been a victim of crime. So does that mean that there is no crime in Mexico. No.

giershift43
  4/23/2017 08:58 EST

Kat, You are judging all of Mexico by one experience. That is the problem.
That is not how it is done. It does relate to crimes in other countries as well.
There is crime in Mexico and the U.S. and Canada. I have been the victim of crime in the U.S. From my experience to then describe the country as crime ridden invites a discussion of comparison to other countries.
I have been to Mexico and not been a victim of crime. So does that mean that there is no crime in Mexico. No.

Ramzfan
  4/23/2017 12:14 EST

I just read where President Trump has saved American taxpayers over $60 BILLION DOLLARS in just 3 months with his de-regulatory measures. Now, THATS what we put him in office to do...!

giershift43
  4/23/2017 12:57 EST

He is also costing lost money in travel and tourism to the millions. And Trump always tells everyone how great he is and inflates his success even in the face of proof. He is not credible.
But if you are a true believer. Go for it be happy. Bye

giershift43
  4/23/2017 13:05 EST

Aside from millions in the first year in travel, hundreds of million are expected to be lost to American Universities by foreigners who pay full tuition.
But then Trump people belittle the educated as they work to dump down society to make them easier to prey on.

DeniseLR
  4/23/2017 23:08 EST

Ramzfan, if you ever feel curious look up 'The tragedy of the commons'. Its not a partisan reference, ,Please don't think of politics like a religion or a game. Give some serious thought to what you would do if you had to make serious choices and live with the consequences.
I would have to concede, and could prove,.some liberal programs are I'll conceived, poorly planned, or become corrupt. Dems in NM, not technically liberal, I guess, are traditionally more corrupt, but they are usually the ones in power so have greater opportunity. Priests can be horrifyingly corrupt, considering their vows. Some cars are pieces of s.... Do we get rid of all cars, go back to horses (might not be a bad idea)?' Or fix things. Destroying is not fixing. Look up 'the tragedy of the commons'. I hope you do.

MexJuan1
  4/23/2017 23:25 EST

"Nothing in the World is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" That's a quote from someone for whom I have great respect and is applicable to someone for whom I have great disgust. The former and the latter are very deserving of each feeling. The latter may be getting a bit too much credit in the quote but, for the most part, it's quite accurate.

DeniseLR
  4/24/2017 02:03 EST

I wonder if the sociopaths who may be very intelligent, but who just don't care ( lack any empathy) and who are some of the politicians, corporate heads, and religious leaders who control the people you are referring to aren't even worse. They're many of the ones who sentenced Galileo to house arrest, who discourage birth control in poor nations whose populations are
out of control, who sent Solzynetsin to Siberia. and who order the police to arrest citizens on Iran for reading the wrong books, dressing incorrectly. or dancing 'inappropriately'. The other group is a huge problem
Sometimes I wonder, and I men this seriously, if the world would be a better place without humanity. If we can't evolve to stop all this senseless waste and mindless causes I'm sure it will. Our time individually is short, (as by the way is the time of humanity compared to the time of life on earth) so we should do
our best to make things better for each other, but we can't even agree on that

DeniseLR
  4/24/2017 02:36 EST

But people can change. I have come to accept things I didn't like and didn't want to hear. It took some time and I definitely resisted but it does happen. So there is hope.

giershift43
  4/24/2017 07:41 EST

Denise describes it well. Power corrupts. That is why having checks and balances matter.

MexJuan1
  4/24/2017 07:45 EST

Yours, is a Monster of a post and THE PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTION of this, particular, subject in this forum. It's the reason I chased Politicians from my porch for 40+ years in the States, why I don't believe in a god and why I think/know that Organized Religion is, possibly, the bain of our existence. You know you're being kind in calling it "humanity", don't you. The word, itself, connotes some sense of decency within the scope of it's definition and pronunciation. You mean PEOPLE! And, therein lies my idea of god, godliness, goodness and spirituality. No sane, thinking person, in my mind anyway, can, actually, believe that there's some "flowing haired, bearded, old and sage man up there, somewhere, floating in the sky, watching over us and keeping us on the straight and narrow" nor, conversely, could that same person think that there's a "Blazing Hell" in the Pit of the Earth where a "Red Beast" waits to torture us for all eternity for our sins. Those entities are among us every day. Religion was designed, invented to CONTROL THE MASSES, plain and simple! If you went to College or are a scholarly person who can read and comprehend, with a mind that, actually "thinks", you've read about and know that! The Bible. A "story", passed down through the ages about ppl and situations good and bad and a lot if hocus pocus and unbelievability. How many WARS, still going on today, have been fought in the name or for the sake of religion? It's just ridiculous! Modern Wars, promulgated, mostly, by the U.S. "Devils" since Korea are fought for Social, Political and mostly Economic reasons. So, it's INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE, NOT HUMANITY wherein lies the good and bad. The spirituality and/or godliness or lack thereof who carry around the Heaven and Hell of this Earth in their benevolent or maladjusted, sick minds. Has religion exerted some affectation on them? Of course it has but it collects them into controlled, mindless groups of ppl who think about their own values and their own god. Control, Political Attitudes, Zealous, Jealousy of Possession, Arrogance over being "RIGHT", Self Righteous Attitudes, good or bad, caring or not are hauled around in the imperfect minds of ppl who, on a good day, utilize 3-6% of their brains! Heaven and goodness, caring about others exists right here on Earth. Hell and the Devil are amongst us as well. It doesn't take a Genius to see it! To know who cares about others and the right things and who cares about themselves and the wrong things. These subjects have been the gist of my last few posts and the quote that I posted. It's an, ongoing battle between Good and Evil right here on Earth that determines our Well Being and Happiness as a Society. Some ppl are strong enough in their will and resolve to find and hold on to their happiness and well being within the scope of their own minds and existence. "Ignorance IS Bliss! " Others are effected by the Evil ppl in the World and are confused and unhappy. And, certainly, it's unavoidable in times like the current. Evil ppl who are self absorbed, self centered, self promoting, arrogant, thoughtless of others, desirous of control and power over others and exorbitant in their exhibition detract from the good and make no positive, healthy contribution to the advancement of the Human Race. IT'S PEOPLE! And, currently, EVIL is winning out. I stay within myself and the scope, of what I can handle and vent to maintain my sanity to sustain the "good" within. The "bad" comes out at times but, that's inevitable. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly. When the Good is at the fore, the Bad and Ugly are, constantly tearing them down, nipping at their heels with minutia and lies to malign them and regain control. When the "BAD" is ruling, it's obvious and AWFUL in policy and the existence of what should be and the absence of harmony as the good and caring just try to cope. PEOPLE are good and bad. It doesn't take much effort to see WHO is WHICH! There is a stark realization and obvious difference between the two.

nelsonokelmgmailcom
  4/24/2017 08:38 EST

DeniseLR BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!

DeniseLR
  4/24/2017 08:42 EST

To me, respectfully, everyone is both good and bad- maybe that's what you meant,-and, except for extremes, they can be very hard to evaluate. Someone can dislike me for something I've forgotten about and act like a jerk to me snd be, unbeknownst to me, a pretty decent person. A great priest, doctor, lawyer, butchrr or baker can have terrible secrets. (I could have probably said leaders. in my last post.). Children raised to hate certain groups may come across as evil - many Japanese seem to hate Jews- maybe they are, or just misinformed- but whole countries? Maybe on any real level we're all evil, or just part evil, and we struggle over it and argue about % (of evil we ate and that we've done.. I have owned guns for protection-you may think that makrs me evil or misguided- but I also think the way we cage, process and. ,treat our food populations (euphimism) is, while efficient, in the true capitalist spirit, one of the most disgusting things I have ever witnessed.. This while we make cute cartoons for children about talking animals.If anyone reading this decides to call me a weirdo f... off and remember the gun part.. Any way, I prefer the term enlightened rationality, or enlightened self interest, which takes into account the big picture and tries to extend one's self interest and caring outwards. No real answers here, I know. Just questions.
Questions, just curious: Would you prefer to be what you consider 100% good and disliked or maybe 80% good and liked?
Not sure what my answer would be, but I wouldn't consider myself that great. I don't do enough for others and sadly many you help come to depend on it, but also try not to harm..Its complex. Would like more friends but don't like to lie too much in order to be sociable and if you can't be truthful without a common interest ( sports, knitting, music whatever) it can get pretty dissatisfying, as can ignoring all the important topics.
Latet

DeniseLR
  4/24/2017 08:45 EST

Thanks Nelson, Juan.

MexJuan1
  4/24/2017 08:54 EST

You got it. That's what I meant, for the most part. It's a constant "battle"! Inward and out...with many external factors making ppl who and what they are. As far as guns go, my feeling is that it's just giving into the fear and, further, contributing to the problem. Another example of "Normalization" of evil.

MexJuan1
  4/24/2017 09:07 EST

I, also, think that various levels of intelligence (IQ, Education) common sense and how a person was raised ( respect, consideration, empathy, discipline, entitlement ) are factors as well.

katzgar
  4/24/2017 09:46 EST

"Kat, You are judging all of Mexico by one experience. That is the problem.
That is not how it is done. It does relate to crimes in other countries as well.
There is crime in Mexico and the U.S. and Canada. I have been the victim of crime in the U.S. From my experience to then describe the country as crime ridden invites a discussion of comparison to other countries.
I have been to Mexico and not been a victim of crime. So does that mean that there is no crime in Mexico. No."

no i am not judging by one experience. you are gilding the Lily. Your assertions that there are mass graves of students in the US is ridiculous

MexJuan1
  4/24/2017 09:59 EST

This poor excuse of a man/person is the most elementary, classic example of stupidity and evil. He hits ALL of the bullet points!
If you support or have anything in common with him, some heavy duty self introspection should be a high priority.


Donald Trump brags that he got 'higher ratings than 9/11' in interview about first 100 days

President said high viewer numbers 'are tremendous advantage'
Rachael Revesz Monday 24 April 2017

Mr Trump said he did not watch CNN or MSNBC anymore to avoid 'negativity' before work.
Donald Trump boasted that his “ratings” were higher than broadcasts of the 9/11 terrorist attacks in an interview about his first 100 days in the White House.

In an interview with the Associated Press, the President railed against the “fake media”, former rival Hillary Clinton and the election during which he lost the popular vote.

When asked if he thought he had changed how people vote, Mr Trump pointed to his “very high ratings”, claiming they increased by two or three times when he appeared on the Sunday morning shows.

THE 'MAINSTREAM MEDIA' TRUMP DESPISES IS DOING ITS JOB BRILLIANTLY
He highlighted Chris Wallace’s Fox News show.

“It had 9.2 million people. It’s the highest they’ve ever had. On any, on air, [CBS’ John] Dickerson had 5.2 million people,” he said.

“It’s the highest for ‘Face the Nation’ or as I call it, ‘Deface the Nation’. It’s the highest for ‘Deface the Nation’ since the World Trade Center. Since the World Trade Center came down. It’s a tremendous advantage.”
Several hours after the attacks on 11 September 2001, during which almost 3,000 people died, Mr Trump was interviewed on radio and claimed that since the Towers came down, he now owned the tallest building in Manhattan. He was also condemned for claiming around $150,000 of government funds for small businesses to get back on their feet after the attacks.

The President also falsely claimed that he saw Muslims clapping and cheering as they watched the Towers fall, which could have contributed to an anti-Muslim rhetoric that led to a 65 per cent spike in hate crimes against Muslims in 2015, as found by the FBI.

In the AP interview, the President also claimed that Democratic representative Elijah Cummings told him he would be the “greatest President in history”. Mr Cummings has repeatedly called for an investigation into the President and his campaign team’s dealings with Russia, and has criticised Mr Trump’s health care proposals.

“There’s going to come a time when Trump isn’t going to be in office,” he said last week. “The question is what's going to be left after the storm.”

World leaders 'should ignore Donald Trump on climate change'

giershift43
  4/24/2017 10:28 EST

Critical thinking involves weighing facts on multiple levels. Who made the sweeping statement that Mexico is crime ridden. There States in Mexico and not all the same.

nelsonokelmgmailcom
  4/24/2017 10:34 EST

Puerto Vallarta has been named the safest city in Mexico. I'm loving it here!!! https://www.vallartadaily.com/news/puerto-vallarta/puerto-vallarta-safest-city-mexico/

Ramzfan
  4/24/2017 10:46 EST

Wish I could join you there Nelson. You know, one of the biggest problems in having Donald Trump as our President, is that everything is booming...no time to take vacations when business is everywhere! Oh well, I took enough time off over the last eight years. It's kind of nice to get back to making money again...!

MexJuan1
  4/24/2017 10:46 EST

Good point! If you cite, only, Drug Cartel activity, you would consider Mexico crime ridden. If you cite Drugs, Inner Cities and Gang Activity, you would consider the U.S. crime ridden, I suppose? On the whole, statistically speaking, Mexico and the U.S. are equally safe.

MexJuan1
  4/24/2017 10:49 EST

Case in point!

nelsonokelmgmailcom
  4/24/2017 10:51 EST

Ramzfan you are truly delusional. The country is NOT booming!! Stop believing all of T Rumps lies. That is all that he spews!

giershift43
  4/24/2017 11:10 EST

That's good to know.

giershift43
  4/24/2017 11:11 EST

That's good to know.

giershift43
  4/24/2017 12:49 EST

Mexjuan, on guns I agree with you.

MexJuan1
  4/24/2017 13:16 EST

Yes! The NRA and ppl are qualifying themselves with the 2nd Amendment from some 240 years ago. The "Protection from the Govt." argument is, simply, ridiculous! "Guns" kill ppl and these are NOT Pioneer Days or The Wild West anymore... Fear begets fear and 2nd Amendment proponents as well as the NRA thrive on fear. And then the "dummy" signs an order to allow 75,000 severely mentally affected ppl, who can't even conduct there own financial affairs, the right to buy a gun??? America is a regressive country with no common sense anymore. And you hunters, have you heard of a GROCERY STORE? I've seen Rabbit, Bison, Squab, Pheasant etc in them. You want to create jobs? Allow a heavily licensed, small amount of hunters who pay a high price for a license to hunt Wild Game and start a chain of stores that sell it. It's the 21St Century. We don't need to hunt for our food. I know that you Republicans just want to KILL SOMETHING! GET RID OF THE GUNS! They're an antiquated concept that promote the wrong ideals and attitudes...

giershift43
  4/24/2017 13:35 EST

Mexjuan, when you tell me about the guns you are preaching to the choir. I already believe it is insane for profit and to keep people fearful.

MexJuan1
  4/24/2017 13:47 EST

I appreciate that but, unfortunately, we're, pretty much, in the minority on that subject. And with the powerful NRA donating millions to both sides of the aisle, I don't expect anything to change. One good and unexpected piece of news though. Gun sales have been down close to 20% in each month since the "golfer in chief" was elected. The NRA promoted fear that Obama would take ppls guns away so, during that time, gun sales we're high.

giershift43
  4/24/2017 13:53 EST

Mexjuan,
Here is another unintelligible quote
from Truump:
TRUMP: I don’t know yet. People want the border wall. My base definitely wants the border wall, my base really wants it — you’ve been to many of the rallies. OK, the thing they want more than anything is the wall. My base, which is a big base; I think my base is 45 percent. You know, it’s funny. The Democrats, they have a big advantage in the electoral college. Big, big, big advantage. I’ve always said the popular vote would be a lot easier than the electoral college. The electoral college — but it’s a whole different campaign (unintelligible). The electoral college is very difficult for a Republican to win, and I will tell you, the people want to see it. They want to see the wall, they want to see security. Now, it just came out that they’re 73 percent down. ... That’s a tremendous achievement. ... Look at this, in 100 days, that down to the lowest in 17 years and it’s going lower. Now, people aren’t coming because they know they’re not going to get through, and there isn’t crime. You know the migration up to the border is horrible for women, you know that? (Unintelligible.) Now, much of that’s stopped because they can’t get through.

MexJuan1
  4/24/2017 16:06 EST

That's his usual, look how great I am, Bowery Boy, fifth grade banter. Lmao! I'd rather be penniless than be a buffoon like that. And failing in the worst way at a job he's got no business or intellect having. His numbers are pure bluster and ALWAYS WRONG but, he knows that he can say ANYTHING and his base will buy into it. So sad...to know there's ppl like that out there. Personally, I'd buy into believing in aliens before I believed one word that came from his crooked tongue!!! So many examples of talk like that but, that's a good one! Thanks

DeniseLR
  4/24/2017 18:39 EST

WARNING, ILL ADVISED RANT ABOUT FIREARMS AHEAD AND OTHER ISSUES BOUND TO PISS SOMEONE OFF/I usually take a weapon when we head out camping for extended periods in isolated areas. Anyone have a problem with that one? The area I live in is rife with gangs, crime and violence. If we thought the police would protect us I wouldn't need one. I respect the pacifist approach...its not me. At least not in these times. And if you think a firearm isnt useful out in the middle of nowhere....Personally, I think anyone who can watch what happens at a slaughter house (do you know what a Judas goat is?)and still eat steaks, or who thinks euthanizing shelter animals is 'humane'_ is more critique worthy than a responsible gun owner (not an oxymoron). Though I dont tend to like gun nuts. But that's just me. Understand all the arguments, pro and con. And am certainly for additional controls,/restrictions. Make me feel safer! There are small business owners in Albuquerque So. Valley that have been held up multiple times at gunpoint. AO sure hasn't done that (made me feel safer, that is. I'm sure he's pulled off plenty of robberies)

DeniseLR
  4/24/2017 18:50 EST

Just read that, in a tit for tat move against our ,(argh) president, a group of politicians led by C. Cardenas, son of a former Mexican president, is spearheading a movement to repeal the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. Pretty 'interesting', to say the least.

MexJuan1
  4/24/2017 19:47 EST

OBAMA’S BARRAGE OF COMPLETE SENTENCES SEEN AS BRUTAL ATTACK ON TRUMP
By Andy Borowitz


CHICAGO (The Borowitz Report)—In an appearance at the University of Chicago on Monday, former President Barack Obama unloaded a relentless barrage of complete sentences in what was widely seen as a brutal attack on his successor, Donald Trump.

Appearing at his first public event since leaving office, Obama fired off a punishing fusillade of grammatically correct sentences, the likes of which the American people have not heard from the White House since he departed.

“He totally restricted his speech to complete sentences,” Tracy Klugian, a student at the event, said. “It was the most vicious takedown of Trump I’d ever seen.”

“About five or six sentences in, I noticed that all of his sentences had both nouns and verbs in them,” Carol Foyler, another student, said. “I couldn’t believe he was going after Trump like that.”

Obama’s blistering deployment of complete sentences clearly got under the skin of their intended target, who, moments after the event, responded with an angry tweet: “Obama bad (or sick) guy. Failing. Sad!”


For the "Bath Tub Ring" of trump supporters who may not be smart enough to realize, this is satire! But, sadly, oh so true!

giershift43
  4/24/2017 20:21 EST

MexJuan,

LOL well done.

giershift43
  4/24/2017 20:21 EST

MexJuan,

LOL well done.

giershift43
  4/24/2017 20:23 EST

I am not familiar with the treaty. What is it?

peggyjune
  4/24/2017 21:23 EST

Got have some humor:

OBAMA’S BARRAGE OF COMPLETE SENTENCES SEEN AS BRUTAL ATTACK ON TRUMP

This was a good one. Those educated people (LOL) who know grammer.

Ramzfan
  4/24/2017 22:17 EST

Nice post Denise! I agree wholeheartedly. I hate the fact that we must carry guns for ours and our families safety, but if that's what it takes, so be it. My step-daughter packs a small handgun with her wherever she goes. Not that she plans to use it, but let someone mess with her or her kids....! I am very happy with the gun registration staying the way it is. I don't want to see anymore states/cities like Chicago. Toughest gun laws in the U.S. and highest rate of gun deaths! It shows that when you take the guns away, only criminals will have guns...!

Ramzfan
  4/24/2017 22:27 EST

Whaaat...? C. Cardenas doesn't like the fact that the U.S. Is only enforcing the same laws that Mexico has and enforces. (Only more lenient)
Go ahead and break the treaty...you're not going to get any land back...!

DeniseLR
  4/24/2017 23:55 EST

Hey, I'm just glad to have some new posters, other than the 4,5 or 6 of us. Not that I don't enjoy and appreciate commentary by Juan and GS and others, but I do miss the angry cries to the moderator to extinguish this abomination of a thread.
Unrelated to the above, politics - of course one individual in particular - these days reminds of the W.R. Hearst quote that one will never go broke underestimating the taste of the American public.

MexJuan1
  4/25/2017 04:17 EST

Or P.T. Barnum's (who was, also, a scam artist, business man and consummate con man) "There's a sucker born every minute"?62,979,879 to be exact. 46.1% of the Popular Vote or, just south of 2.9 Mil. less than his opponent for his edification and those who maintain the outright lie of a "mandate". I too, would welcome and am, personally, disappointed that more Expats, American, Canadian, European etc have not taken to this, particular, extremely important issue with their perspectives. Have we broadened the specific subject title a bit? No doubt. Unavoidable, the usual norm for forums and predictable but, I would argue that the effects of this "New Administration" began early, are ongoing and will be far reaching as it applies to us and Mexico. And, other than the personal attacks, the unpredictable actions and unknown motives of this purely insane, unhinged and corrupt president might take us places, to which, we can't even imagine. he's, already, threatened to send Troups into Mexico so, it wouldn't be so far fetched that he wakes up some Saturday morning before sneaking away to the Golf Course after having tweeted that in the War on Drugs effort, he's decided to send The National Guard into Mexico to fight The Cartels! What "effect" do you think that would have on Expats? I believe that this incompetent sham is capable of anything. Not capable of being a good president but, anything else you might imagine. And I just can't let a statement made by one of the "stains" in our population on this forum that concerned that "it's nice to be making money after the last 8 years of "economic suppression". Really? You are such a "wannabe" and your pathos is palpable. I worked and invested and made just as much, if not more, in those 8 years as I did in any of the 8 years of my professional career! Were you that upset that a Black Man was (an actual and capable) POTUS? Please stop saying "anything" to, further, exhibit your racism and stupidity! Oh and, BTW. Does the advertising of his personal club and business on the State Dept website fall within the per view of ethical, presidential behavior? For an unethical criminal, I suppose it does? More proof he's where he is, only, for self enrichment.

giershift43
  4/25/2017 09:02 EST

Just a change of topic. Buying property in Mexico as in the States should include title insurance. Here is one article about it: http://www.bajainsider.com/article/title-insurance-mexican-real-estate

Cozumeldeb
  4/25/2017 09:15 EST

The function of the trust/notary basically guarantees clear title. Some have tried to avoid that in past by opening shell MX Corporations, but IMN has cracked down on that..Title companies have + gone, mostly gone in places like PV, Cancun, etc.

katzgar
  4/25/2017 09:27 EST

"Good point! If you cite, only, Drug Cartel activity, you would consider Mexico crime ridden. If you cite Drugs, Inner Cities and Gang Activity, you would consider the U.S. crime ridden, I suppose? On the whole, statistically speaking, Mexico and the U.S. are equally safe."

There is plenty of information that says otherwise yet you insist on posting crap like this. You are trying to create a pretend world...must be in marketing.

katzgar
  4/25/2017 09:27 EST

"Good point! If you cite, only, Drug Cartel activity, you would consider Mexico crime ridden. If you cite Drugs, Inner Cities and Gang Activity, you would consider the U.S. crime ridden, I suppose? On the whole, statistically speaking, Mexico and the U.S. are equally safe."

There is plenty of information that says otherwise yet you insist on posting crap like this. You are trying to create a pretend world...must be in marketing.

giershift43
  4/25/2017 09:39 EST

Deb, Good information. Thanks

MexJuan1
  4/25/2017 09:52 EST

Alright already, we get it "Chicken Little" (you should really change your forum handle to this! Really!) You are deathly afraid of Mexico and feel safe in America. So stay there already. And stop copying and pasting my posts, OK? Get your own material... ;-)

giershift43
  4/25/2017 09:57 EST

MexJuan, She is a troll!! She needs to go to a movie theatre, mall or airport. Somewhere where a terrorist might be.

MexJuan1
  4/25/2017 10:02 EST

I just saw this reading an article that a New York Post Sports Writer wrote about the hypocrisy of the NFL's gambling policy, Robert Kraft's (Patriot's Owner) ownership and Board position in a Hospitality/Gaming Co. and his close relationship with Rupert Murdoch (NY Post owner) and the "fifth grade criminal" u.s. president. As well as The Raider's move to Las Vegas. He got fired a week after posting this tweet....... 12/7/41, 9/11/01, 1/20/17.

MexJuan1
  4/25/2017 16:40 EST

I, certainly, hope that Mexico's Economic Council gets some results in establishing trade and business with other countries. I know that they, already, have a deal in the works for China to build cars here. In the continued effort to alienate, most, every country, including long standing allies, the "nut job", do nothing president went after Canada, of all places, today over lumber. Three (3) reasons I can think of: 1. he's going to rape the U.S. of all of it's recourses, evidenced by defunding and possibly, totally, disbanding the EPA. 2. to make his rich and wealthy friends (and himself) richer and wealthier and 3. As a precursor to either renegotiating NAFTA or abandoning it altogether. So, Mexico needs to develop other economic opportunities and abandon the U.S. completely because he'll be coming after them for sure! 100 days of horror and incompetence. And who knows, if Ivanka is "built" like daddy and has his promiscuity gene, maybe, after her dreamy looks at Trudeau when he visited The White House and their "chance" meeting at that Broadway play, she was desirous of a "hook up" and was rebuffed? That's supposition of course but, we are talking about the trump royal family who gets everything they want, aren't we? Ridiculous on most every other level of reasonable thinking for sure but, we are NOT dealing with reasonable ppl here... One, reasonable, question reigns. Why go after their #2 trade partner, Canada? Although, like most everything else he does, it doesn't make sense?!

Ramzfan
  4/25/2017 17:25 EST

I can only hope that Marine LePen wins the election in France. It is becoming more & more obvious that the liberal bastion throughout the world is trying to hijack common sense and a win by LePen would show that, just like in America, there is some hope for reasonable people.

Ramzfan
  4/25/2017 17:25 EST

I can only hope that Marine LePen wins the election in France. It is becoming more & more obvious that the liberal bastion throughout the world is trying to hijack common sense and a win by LePen would show that, just like in America, there is some hope for reasonable people.

rudyn1
  4/25/2017 17:40 EST

What's that got to do with Mexico? Dagrabbit! I'm a "newbie" trying to figure out what's happening in Mexico as I consider a move from the U.S. I'm damned close to "unsubscribing" from the Mexico forum due to the seemingly endless b.s. and drivel. {I'm also tracking several other nation's expat forums. Mexico's is "Unique" in that I'm reading more drivel which only turns me off. Please find another freakin' forum to disrupt.

rudyn1
  4/25/2017 17:40 EST

What's that got to do with Mexico? Dagrabbit! I'm a "newbie" trying to figure out what's happening in Mexico as I consider a move from the U.S. I'm damned close to "unsubscribing" from the Mexico forum due to the seemingly endless b.s. and drivel. {I'm also tracking several other nation's expat forums. Mexico's is "Unique" in that I'm reading more drivel which only turns me off. Please find another freakin' forum to disrupt.

rudyn1
  4/25/2017 17:41 EST

What's that got to do with Mexico? Dagrabbit! I'm a "newbie" trying to figure out what's happening in Mexico as I consider a move from the U.S. I'm damned close to "unsubscribing" from the Mexico forum due to the seemingly endless b.s. and drivel. {I'm also tracking several other nation's expat forums. Mexico's is "Unique" in that I'm reading more drivel which only turns me off. Please find another freakin' forum to disrupt.

rudyn1
  4/25/2017 17:41 EST

What's that got to do with Mexico? Dagrabbit! I'm a "newbie" trying to figure out what's happening in Mexico as I consider a move from the U.S. I'm damned close to "unsubscribing" from the Mexico forum due to the seemingly endless b.s. and drivel. {I'm also tracking several other nation's expat forums. Mexico's is "Unique" in that I'm reading more drivel which only turns me off. Please find another freakin' forum to disrupt.

MexJuan1
  4/25/2017 17:56 EST

If you don't think that this situation won't effect your living in Mexico as a U.S. Expat, you're just fooling yourself and no one else! I've been here two years and will be leaving after the U.S. mid term elections of 2018 or if Obrador is elected as President of Mexico. I'll stay if trump is sent packing which, I feel, should happen before 2017 is done or, at least, by the 2018 mid term elections. Treasonous criminal former, fired in disgrace NSA Michael Flynn sinking farther down, or should I say up, the ladder to criminal prosecution and jail time. Yates, Clapper and others to testify May 8 in front of Senate Intel Committee. Comey says, "No let up in Russia/Trump Campaign collusion investigation. Manafort, Page, Stone, Kushner, Sessions and "crew" all yet to come. The train is leaving the station soon and set to run off the tracks. I wonder which one of these "reasonable" ppl will turn and bring down the boss? Or will these "reasonable" ppl just commit perjury like they've been doing all along?

MexJuan1
  4/25/2017 18:06 EST

And the reason you've not seen any of this "drivel" on any other countries forum (I can't believe I have to explain this to an adult?!) is that no other country will be as effected by The malignant situation in American like Mexico has, already, been and will, could be. I'm sure that Canada, until today, is talking about it as well. There's, always, help here for any question you might have so, deal with reality or choose another country. So far, it's, still, a free world...

LeiaRowan
  4/25/2017 18:44 EST

Ramzfan: You are a nutbar,

giershift43
  4/25/2017 19:32 EST

Ecuador has had some too. I think the Mexico site has a couple of trolls

giershift43
  4/25/2017 19:32 EST

Ecuador has had some too. I think the Mexico site has a couple of trolls

GigiB87
  4/25/2017 22:40 EST

Think we need some hope here. Otherwise we'll have to start a 'Get Off My Lawn' thread. We can make it a Mexican lawn for those of you who are picky.

MexJuan1
  4/25/2017 23:28 EST

Anyone ever tell you that joke about when The Pope is making the sign of the Cross from his balcony, he's signaling "All you Wops get off of my lawn!" My ex father in law came over on the boat in 1947 and used to tell/show it all the time. No disrespect to any Italians, ok?

GigiB87
  4/26/2017 07:16 EST

Not bad!!!! Sort of incorporated hope, if we think about current Pope, and 'Get Off My Lawn!' And he's Hispanic, sort of, tho what they say about people from B.A. is that they are Italians who speak Spanish and think they're British. Which is both funny and true.

GigiB87
  4/26/2017 15:28 EST

Re: trolls. Wouldn't call the person a troll exactly but had an interesting back and forth on Peru site about lake Titicaca and environmental issues where he irritably referred to me as Anthony Weiner, which I thought was hilarious. Think he may work for some Peruvian tourism org but he didn't answer when I asked. Not sure exact distinction between trolls and a -holes but I'm sure a number of people put me in latter category, but this was my thread so hard to categorize me as the former. Really do want to go to Peru, Ecuador, Chili.

Ramzfan
  4/26/2017 17:58 EST

President Trump proposes new tax plan which reduces taxes from 35% to 15%....the only people who wouldn't like that are idiots & liberals! (Whoops, same thing...!) lol

GigiB87
  4/26/2017 19:54 EST

Problem is all the indirect subsidies certain rich people, corporate types etc.get and have gotten for a long time. Ranchers that lease BLM land and National Forest land, frequently fairly inappropriate areas, IMO, desert areas and beautiful meadows that are overgrazed and turned into mudholes. Agricultural subsidies that also distort market forces. Dig a little deeper, not that simple. Foolish IMO to worship at the altar of lower taxes. More free stuff for rich people?

giershift43
  4/26/2017 20:33 EST

They decide the deficit doesn't matter when it is tax breaks for the rich. And money is not water . It does not trickle down

Ramzfan
  4/26/2017 21:02 EST

What do you guys think about Ted Cruz's idea to have the money from the famous Mexican drug lord Guzman pay for the wall...? I think it's brilliant! I understand that the U.S. Was paid 14 BILLION Dollars from Mexico to take him and make sure he didn't escape. That's just about enough to pay for the wall. Once again, our President is right....Mexico will pay for the wall...!

MexJuan1
  4/26/2017 23:03 EST

Everything that's happening now, this week, EVERYTHING, is just bluster from the epic failures of this poor excuse of a man to get anything relevant done. It's been a hundred day dash in five days with no muster and still, NOTHING ACCOMPLISHED! The crucial date ahead is May 8 when this crew of criminals starts to be, officially, exposed for who and what they, really, are. Expect a lot of multi directional, confusing tweets from the "fifth grade" mind of the golfer in chief and a LOT of scrambling for cover among all of the treasonous pieces in the puzzle. A "reasonable" person, at this point would LAWYER UP! Expect that to happen as well...

MexJuan1
  4/27/2017 03:22 EST

April 26, 2017. "While Trump’s proposed policies have yet to be realized, markets have already reacted to the uncertainty about Mexico’s economic future. Banamex, the Mexican unit of Citibank, has cut its projections for total foreign direct investment in Mexico for 2017 from $35.8 billion dollars to $25 billion. In turn, private sector specialists surveyed by the Bank of Mexico in December estimated GDP growth for 2017 at 1.6 percent — cutting the estimate they had made at the beginning of 2016 (3.18 percent) almost in half.

Currency traders are likewise signaling uncertainty about the future of the Mexican economy. The Mexican peso tumbled about 14.1 percent since Trump won the Republican nomination last July. The currency decreased by 7.7 percent on the day after the election, and hit a record low at $21.91 pesos to the U.S. dollar following Trump’s press conference on Jan. 11, when he again threatened retributions against companies that move to Mexico. (A falling peso generally indicates currency traders expect less investment and slower economic growth.) " So, with the announcement of, up to, a 24% tariff on soft Canadian Lumber, it's not much of a stretch that the proposed 35% tariff on American Companies doing business in Mexico, won't be too long in coming. And with the announcement that NAFTA won't be renegotiated or abandoned, for now, the "trust factor" from a "Pathological Liar" certainly comes into play. As I've said before, I hope that Mexico's Economic officials are, diligently, seeking business and trade elsewhere. At the very least, a strong and long lasting devaluation in the Peso will cause mass inflation, fewer jobs where jobs are scarce now, a 50% decrease in growth and abject poverty in the, already, poor resident ppl. And "The Effect of the New Administration's Policies on Expats Living in Mexico" (always a valid realization) could/will be exponentially disastrous increasing poor sentiment to us who, the Mexican ppl, already, view as being "Rich" (thefts, home invasions, robberies and crime, in general, against us could rise significantly),the "hospitality" towards us being there may become inhospitable by association and crime, itself, will rise just as a means of survival for Mexicans who's money becomes devalued or have lost their jobs. So, after a bit of a lull, things in Mexico have the, distinct, possibility to get very bad. My advice for those intent on staying would be to hire locals and pay them a decent (by Mexican standards anyway) wage for house cleaning, property maintenance, security etc and make yourself an example of support. But that, in and of itself, could, also, make you a "mark"! Should NAFTA be abandoned, that "idiot" remain in the WH and Obrador get elected (which would become an, almost certainty at that point) I would, strongly, advise moving to another country not so directly effected by the rage of this incompetent Mad Man bent on making life in the World worse for most and better for himself and the 1%. This action, for those who will argue otherwise, will, also, cost job loss in the U.S. resulting in a Net Loss. Just PAY ATTENTION, PLEASE...

MexJuan1
  4/27/2017 07:27 EST

Plan Would Turn the Whole U.S. Into Kansas
By Jordan Weissmann


"Itis hard to think of a more obvious recent public-policy failure than the tax cuts that Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback championed in 2012. The state has been mired in a perpetual budget crisis ever since the package passed, forcing its residents to swallow painful spending cuts in essential areas like education. Kansas' credit rating has been downgraded, as well. The financial wreckage has been so severe that Brownback's fellow Republicans are now staging a rebellion; in February, the GOP–run legislature voted to undo the cuts, and came close to overruling the governor's veto.

Somehow, the sharpest minds in the Trump administration have gazed upon the smoldering ashes of this misbegotten experiment and decided that theADVERTIitate it. On Wednesday, Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin and National Economic Council Director Gary Cohn unveiled the skimpy outline of the White House's current tax plan. While the one-page document lacked much in the way of detail, it confirmed that the president wanted to cut the tax rate on so-called “pass-through” businesses to 15 percent—which would amount to a bigger, potentially more disastrous version of Brownback's ill-fated cuts."


Consider the U.S. one of the many subcontractors that this criminal "conned" into doing a job for him on one of his buildings, then ruined the company by not paying them. That is all the country and the World is to him. Another con he can use for personal enrichment.

giershift43
  4/27/2017 07:29 EST

Mexjuan,
You describe it well.

MexJuan1
  4/27/2017 07:49 EST

This Russian collusion mess had better turn out to be the lynch pin that chases him out for good! I believe it will be. I believe that the " story" that Michael Flynn alone has to tell that he thought would get him immunity will be enough. If it isn't, all of the other "puppets" that trump used to make his deal with Putin/Russia will make their and his convictions and ejection from office a done deal. If not, Mexico, America and the World are in, more than serious, trouble. One light at the end if the tunnel is that he is so is ineffective, so incompetent, so devalued, so unpopular with a growing number of House and Senate Rep. (You notice that very few, if any, will come out and speak to back him anymore) that he can't get any serious legislation passed anyway. Not that he can't do some damage because, boy, has he! He's attempting to open up the country's Natl. Parks to drilling and fracking to destroy them with Earthquakes and Radioactive Brine. Even "W" protected that issue! This guy is nothing more than a very sick minded, self serving individual, totally out if touch with any semblance if intellectual train of thought that makes any sense. More exactly, he's a CRIMINAL!

giershift43
  4/27/2017 08:39 EST

and on April 27 news:
The Canadian dollar and Mexico's peso bounced after Trump said he would not scrap the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), easing concerns towards U.S. trade protectionism for now. The loonie was up 0.3 percent to C$1.3542 CAD=D4 per dollar, while the peso MXN=D2 strengthened 1.2 percent to 18.95 pesos per dollar.

He just likes keeping everyone in chaos like he did with China. It looks like he does it to get some business deal for himself that he wants. To hell with everyone else.
I am glad to be at work today and have no time to hear his craziness.

Cozumeldeb
  4/27/2017 08:45 EST

I know this is a mistake, but oh well..Your tax bill, local, state, federal, property, sales tax etc will double++. Can u figure out why?

MexJuan1
  4/27/2017 08:53 EST

I just read that under his tax plan which, BTW, won't pass so this is all a moot point but, anyway, the "typical" Middle Class Family" will save about $1,000. The 1%er's will save 215,000 and the. .1%er's will get a 1 Million Dollar break. So how do your numbers bare out? Just curious. I'm no Economics guy...

giershift43
  4/27/2017 09:47 EST

more headlines today:
Trump to stay in NAFTA after calling it a 'disaster' in 2016
The White House says, after speaking to the leaders of Canada and Mexico, Pres. Trump has decided not to terminate NAFTA 'at this time.' Nicolle Wallace and her political panel discuss.

Ramzfan
  4/27/2017 10:36 EST

Juan, your wild rants remind me of a preacher standing on a soapbox in the middle of Chicago crying "Doomsday is coming...the sky is falling...run for your lives...!" I guess it's just how we were brought up....I have always looked at the glass as half-full, others (mainly libs) see it as half-empty. Even when I try real hard to see it as half-empty, I always see it as refillable!
Oh well, the nice thing about living in Mexico is that there's always plenty of sunshine, so that when you do finally crawl out from under that dark cloud that seems to follow most liberals around, you can finally soak up some vitamin D...! Keep smiling...

MexJuan1
  4/27/2017 10:50 EST

I don't believe one word that comes out of his mouth! You know, like when Ramzfan is just regurgitating his hero's lies here... It's all just irrelevant nonsense and I won't be a party to normalizing it, ever! It's just an insult to my intellect and I won't allow it to happen. Nor will I address and/or argue about it. It's pointless. It's, actually, a sad tragedy in a way. All of us, including the ppl who supported him and believed all his lies, will suffer the fate if those lies, failed and inept, incompetent policies and, hopefully, his, eventual, downfall. It's like watching Nixon all over again only much worse and we're adults now. Well, some if us are, anyway...

Ramzfan
  4/27/2017 10:58 EST

Hahahahaha..! Look Juan....over in the East...there's a sliver of sunshine peaking through the clouds.....RUN...! It might touch you and leave a spot of optimism in your heart...!
Hahahahaha...!

nelsonokelmgmailcom
  4/27/2017 11:07 EST

Ramzfan I have concluded that you are probably a troll in Russia attempting to bolster the sagging popularity of our delusional, ignorant, false president. Everything he is doing is aimed at destroying the middle class and representative government. All you do is repeat T Rumps lies. And they are STILL lies.

Cozumeldeb
  4/27/2017 11:33 EST

Ramzfan, no answer on tax comment?

MexJuan1
  4/27/2017 12:06 EST

This guy has no answers! All he does and can do is vomit up trump lies. I'll give you an answer though. The "proposed" Tax Reform is a Tax CUT for trump, his, "pass through" businesses and the rest of the 1 and .1%ers. It's just as simple as that!

giershift43
  4/27/2017 12:11 EST

Ramzfan's only purpose is to get a reaction .

GigiB87
  4/27/2017 12:15 EST

I hope this is a short term problem (2-4 years) not the end of the world, and that those of us who are most concerned with what is going on both have suggestions the rest of us can do to help and follow them themselves. Few predicted the fall of the Nixon presidency or the collapse of the USSR. Surprises are the order of the day right now. I do know a good % of the US, California (10th largest economy in the world) in particular, wants to continue a ' normal' relation with Mexico and even many of the conservative commentators rail against Trump and his border policies. Can't blame Mexico for trying to diversify economic relations, makes good economic sense. China is already all over the place in Central and South America and its presence is growing. I wish Mexico/US relations were the biggest problem with Trump presidency, but I'm looking east. No one knows what will happen next, and these are certainly uncertain times, but we need as individuals to do the best we can to handle and pisitively influence the situation in our own small ways and try to avoid becoming prisoners of the moment. Now, if you don't like the above I suggest taking a good long look into your own heart and then give me some specific suggestions. You already know what I think of Trump and would be arrested if voiced them too often and too stridently. Doesn't do sh... to change things. People in my state are fighting the feds over immigration policies, sanctuary city status trade issues, etc. etc. And that includes our female Hispanic Republican governor. I feel badly I am not doing more.

GigiB87
  4/27/2017 14:31 EST

Funny, maybe it's just me but I didn't hear a lot of that 1/2/full stuff from run of the mill far right types 2009-2016. Of course it's a stereotype to paint any group like that, isn't it?

MexJuan1
  4/28/2017 07:42 EST

trump through Spicer blaming Obama for the vetting NOT DONE by trump transition team for NSA position or any other cabinet post shows how inept, incompetent, ridiculous and shameless these ppl are! 36-48 witnesses to be called or made by subpoena to testify before House and Senate Intel Committees with many more to be involved in FBI investigation. Cover up continues by the WH. No surprise there but, the "walls are crumbling". Flynn set to "bring the house down" on trump! That's just his MO...

giershift43
  4/28/2017 08:14 EST

Nelson,
Amen!!

Ramzfan
  4/28/2017 10:49 EST

I know all of the "tolerant liberals" will get a kick out of this...I took my Toyota Tundra pickup to the body shop yesterday and left it for them to do $3700.00 worth of repairs. The damage was caused (on purpose) by someone who did not appreciate my two Trump bumper stickers. Now a lot of you will say "well, he got what he deserved", but the point here is, you don't see conservatives doing damage to liberals belongings. You see, it's one thing to have an opinion, but it's another to try and destroy another persons things because you don't agree with that persons thinking. I'm not whining, because I can afford to pay for it, but I think think it's sad that we have people who preach peace out of one side of their mouth, and then sneak around and create chaos out of the other...!

Pedroal
  4/28/2017 10:54 EST

To AO and friends.
'I've labored long and hard for bread,
for money and for riches.
But on my corns too long you've tread,
you fine haired sons of bitches.'
Black Bart, 1877

GigiB87
  4/28/2017 11:05 EST

There are a number of rural areas - Catron County in New Mexico, for example - where I would never have considered spending a lot of time driving around with Obama bumper stickers
There was a billboard there proclaiming Obama the ,'Worst President Ever'. The hate generated by the Trump organization and the right wing radio hate machine is finally spreading and bouncing back on them. Obama never advocated violence, Trump has. But you must know all this.

MexJuan1
  4/28/2017 11:39 EST

I would agree with your opinion of this action taken against you and your property and I, personally, get no "kick" from you being vandalized. I will say, although, that this incendiary atmosphere was started and fostered by one Donald J. Trump from the beginning of his campaign, through the debates, Nationally and Worldwide exhibiting his distaste, hatred, bigotry and anger towards others, his malevolent and dark Inaugural Speech and into his presidency, threatening Congressmen to pass his bills and bullying them and others from his pulpit of power so, yes, unequivocally, whoever took that malignant action against you was, criminally, wrong and I would denounce it vehemently. I would just ask you to look, objectively and introspectively, at the inception of the proponent of this ongoing attitude of hatred. That doesn't, in any way, minimize or qualify any acceptance of what happened to you and many others, I might add, on both sides of the "wall" but, "Cause and Effect" is a real thing, isn't it? And I'll add, even though it should go w/o saying that you and I are entitled, still, to our opinions. No matter what! I have no apologies for your experience as that is something that would never come from me but, I will say that I'm sorry that this hatred and malevolence has come your way.

Cozumeldeb
  4/28/2017 11:56 EST

Ramzfan, Hanging or burning likeness of President Obama in deep red states was accepted behavior for 8 yrs..Last government shutdown caused by Cruz and protest in front of WH, where these para military pretenders demanded President Obama be dragged out on his knees so they could hang him. On the upside it appears u don't live in MX, no car repair here would cost $3700, Done here.

MexJuan1
  4/28/2017 12:28 EST

I'm sure that no one on here (well, maybe some, secretly) is happy about what happened to you but, you've opened up a big "Can of Worms" as I thought you would and highlighted your own biased and narrow minded views. Not understanding (or caring for that matter!) another person's situation or what happened to "them" or what the Right has done and speaking before thinking are two, very common traits of trumpers. It's like a person in a divorce only telling one side if the story and lying, not caring about the other side or the truth. This will either wake you up to some realities or make you more if a hater. Your choice...

giershift43
  4/28/2017 18:51 EST

Ramzfan is another graduate of groper t rump clowns university!! Carry on!!!

giershift43
  4/28/2017 19:29 EST

He takes no responsibility for anything that goes wrong and credit for what others accomplish .

worxs
  4/28/2017 19:37 EST

Ramzfan is a true American - As in USA

Does Gearhead need a seeing eye dawg to find her way to the truth?

Bunch of people living off my taxes.

giershift43
  4/28/2017 19:52 EST

Wow another graduate of Groper Trump Clowns University!!

Whoot!

MexJuan1
  4/28/2017 20:03 EST

Now, you'll just have to forgive them. They're celebrating their Kings newest, worthless, like 22 of the other 28 ( he's been so effective) Executive Order that would pollute The Atlantic Ocean and the cost of Alaska! That's after he gets done (won't happen either) allowing the Oil and Gas Companies to ravage and pollute the National Parks and Monuments. All in an effort to enrich himself, EPA Head Scott Pruitt, Rex Tillerson, other wealthy investors and the Fossil Fuel Industry. It's a big day for Earth Demolition. in the name of MONEY.

giershift43
  4/28/2017 20:06 EST

Short sited decisions with long term consequences, but these are not folks who can think beyond the moment.

Pedroal
  4/29/2017 10:57 EST

Well, if Ramzfam is a true American and a football fan, a few preguntas, respectfully:

1. Where were the Rams located before they initially moved to LA?

2..What were the names of the Rams QB and radio personality that had the famous tv on tv air scuffle?

3. What University did Eric Dickerson go to and what happened to its football program?

4. What was the nickname of the famous 4 Rams linemen?

5. Fred D. was famous back when we were young as Rams player who lived in his van. What was his full name and the TV show he starred in?

6. Who did Kurt W. replace as quarterback before winning Superbowl and who was his coach?
Questions a little long, but answers short. A real Rams fan would know all or most of these, wouldn't he? Might even be fun to answer. Apologies to non sports types, tho NFL pretty big in Mexico.
So, are you NFL or Tokyo Rose?

Ramzfan
  4/29/2017 14:01 EST

What or who is AO...?

Pedroal
  4/29/2017 14:25 EST

See, if I was pretending to be a Mexican citizen and futbol, or soccer, fan (stands for fanatic) and someone started asking me stuff about my supposed team you wouldn't get much of an answer from me either. But I do know something about NFL.

Pedroal
  4/29/2017 14:25 EST

See, if I was pretending to be a Mexican citizen and futbol, or soccer, fan (stands for fanatic) and someone started asking me stuff about my supposed team you wouldn't get much of an answer from me either. But I do know something about NFL.

DeniseLR
  4/29/2017 15:41 EST

So,what the hell, RZ, I can even answer one of those. Are you for real?

To change topic, just picked up used book, 'First World, Ha Ha Ha! The Zapatista Challenge. 1995 Will check out and see how relates to today's issues.

Ramzfan
  4/29/2017 17:05 EST

Well that's nice Pedroal, but I don't understand your point...?

MexJuan1
  4/29/2017 18:44 EST

There's, really, only one (1) issue today that matters. The trump campaign/russian collusion. Nothing else should deflect attention from that crime. I read an article today that the U.K. and MI6 has definitive, documented information relating to meetings and the ploy and information that trump knew about it and financed the activity. Christopher Steele, the MI6 Agent will be crucial in getting trump and his "crew". There will be jail time for some and trump, with others, will be sent packing. Another article I read stated that his mounting Ethics Violations, alone, could chase him should enough Republicans in Congress turn against him. He's alienated many of them already and only 23 have to turn. He's going to ruin America, Mexico, Canada and many other countries if allowed to stay where he doesn't belong. One and only one, very important issue and the testifying to prove it begins on May 8. Sally Yates will be very important as well. Just watch and see...

nelsonokelmgmailcom
  4/29/2017 18:53 EST

MexJuan1 YUP!!!!

Ramzfan
  4/29/2017 19:30 EST

MexJuan, you are generally not worth replying to, but this time, I'll make an exception. I was just reading your worthless drivel and it comes on the heels of an article that I just finished, which states that the special commission that they put together to find out if Trump and his campaign had any Russian ties. The answer: NONE! You and your water-lily pals are going to have find another conspiracy theory to work on. Sorry....

nelsonokelmgmailcom
  4/29/2017 19:43 EST

MexJuan- Your posts are generally factual and well written. Ramzfan is a troll, paid to stir the pot. Most of his posts are not factual. You and others who are conducting this urinating contest with him are WASTING YOUR TIME and cluttering a great exchange intended to educate folks on life in other countries. Lets all just TOTALLY IGNORE this bloviating creep and maybe he will get tired of playing with himself and go away, or go blind!!! IGNORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MexJuan1
  4/29/2017 19:53 EST

I've ignored him from early on and advised others to do so then.

worxs
  4/29/2017 19:55 EST

Half brain Nelson and landscaper Juan are both paid soldiers of George Soros.

All we need to say is Trump would win again if the vote was held today...

I like that the liberals in NY, NJ, IL, CA, and MA will be screwed the most when they lose the state property and income tax deduction! Of course if you live in Mexico full time your okay... Pampered deb your screwed! LOL

giershift43
  4/29/2017 19:58 EST

Nelson , I agree. Mexjuan actually works to nerdy and the issues .

giershift43
  4/29/2017 20:00 EST

I agree with Nelson. And Mexjuan. Ramz is a T roll for T rump .

giershift43
  4/29/2017 20:24 EST

Damn spell correct and me not proof reading.

Mexjuan studies the issues. Have a laugh.

DeniseLR
  4/29/2017 20:33 EST

You get the point. We all get the point. Did he make the point? You tell me.

DeniseLR
  4/29/2017 20:34 EST

You get the point. We all get the point. Did he make the point? You tell me.

giershift43
  4/29/2017 20:46 EST

That was supposed to be study issues

Pedroal
  4/29/2017 20:53 EST

Well, I don't think I've ever been too churlish and called people exceptionally bad names, or told, or suggested to them, what to discuss on this thread. I just wanted to see if Ramzfan was a Ram's fan. And if he is deceitful about that a number of you are probably correct about his insincerity about other things.
Anyway, Rams started out in Cleveland. Jim Everett and Jim Rome had the big brouha. Linemen were the Fearsome Foursome. Fred Dryer was the star of TV show Hunter. Kurt Warner replaced Trent Green, winning Super Bowl with coach Dick Vermeil while Rams in St. Louis. My conclusion, not much of a Ram's fan. Troll? Maybe a little excessive. Unworthy of further attention? Quite possibly. Entitely up to you. Write what you like, Donald Trump still sucks!!!

Pedroal
  4/29/2017 20:54 EST

Well, I don't think I've ever been too churlish and called people exceptionally bad names, or told, or suggested to them, what to discuss on this thread. I just wanted to see if Ramzfan was a Ram's fan. And if he is deceitful about that a number of you are probably correct about his insincerity about other things.
Anyway, Rams started out in Cleveland. Jim Everett and Jim Rome had the big brouha. Linemen were the Fearsome Foursome. Fred Dryer was the star of TV show Hunter. Kurt Warner replaced Trent Green, winning Super Bowl with coach Dick Vermeil while Rams in St. Louis. My conclusion, not much of a Ram's fan. Troll? Maybe a little excessive. Unworthy of further attention? Quite possibly. Entitely up to you. Write what you like, Donald Trump still sucks!!!

Pedroal
  4/29/2017 21:24 EST

You know, I really hate it when people, any political persuasion, start pounding at you to change your thoughts, actions, notion of what is important. Reminds me of the preacher ranting about hell and damnation. Think some of us on this thread getting a little full of ourselves. I know I'm good at that. I know for me its a good place to say things that it is hard to say elsewhere. And you are anonymous. Fine. But here no one required to read, or comment. Most of the stuff mentioned here in these nearly 1400 posts will never be read again. Nor should they. I just hope something I put out there clicks, occasionally, as does my GF (Denise aka Gigi, don't ask me to explain the latter name! I don't get it either.)

worxs
  4/29/2017 22:24 EST

LOL Donald Trump is still your president

Ramzfan
  4/29/2017 22:39 EST

Not bad Pedro, Rams started in Cleveland in 1937. Moved to Los Angeles in 1949. Won the world Championship in 1951. Was the first ever NFL team to have a logo on their helmets. (Still the most recognizable helmet in the league) had many greats playing for them thru the years, including Merlin Olson, who starred in "Little house on the prairie".Quarterbacks included Norm Van Brockton, Roman Gabriel, Pat Haden, Joe Namath, John Hadl, Ron Jaworski, Dieter Brock, Jim Everett, etc, etc. I've been a Rams fan since 1953 when I was 10 years old and saw my first game. (Rams beat the Packers at the LA Coliseum.) Any other questions? I've been a Conservative since I was old enough to understand why it was important to earn and spend my own money and why living off of other people's earnings doesn't make sense. That's why I disliked Obama and I love Trump...!

worxs
  4/29/2017 22:44 EST

Amen Ramzfan, Love my Redskins

Ramzfan
  4/29/2017 22:45 EST

Right on Worxs...!

Cozumeldeb
  4/30/2017 12:09 EST

Love the NFL questions for the fool Ramzfan..

Ramzfan
  4/30/2017 13:33 EST

I can always tell a liberal by their unquenching desire to call others names, Deb...

Ramzfan
  4/30/2017 15:45 EST

I would say, that if President Trump is able to get his tax plan across, along with his health care plan, he will have accomplished more in his first six months, than any other President before him. If he is able to build the wall also, he will have kept every campaign promise, much to the Democrats chagrin...!

Pedroal
  4/30/2017 16:21 EST

Thanks, CD.

Pedroal
  4/30/2017 16:32 EST

So RF, how much of that did you get off the internet? Those dates didn't come right off the top of your head. Where did Eric D. go to college and what happened that was significant? And what was Van Brocklins teammate's.Elroy H's nickname? Maybe not quite so long this time?

giershift43
  4/30/2017 17:23 EST

Sounds like you read Wikipedia. The idea that being liberal means that someone does not work nor pay ones own way is a very propagandized view. I have worked since I was 16 to Now, I just turned 68. I have always saved money, invested and conducted myself responsibly. That is some idea that has nothing to do with reality.

giershift43
  4/30/2017 17:25 EST

There are more than a few people who own property in the U.S. and in Mexico. Again assumptions to support of view that is not accurate.

Pedroal
  4/30/2017 17:50 EST

Apologies if this repeated. RZ, how much of that did you get off internet? Took you 10 hours. Never answered question about Eric D? Where did he attend U and what happened to program? Who was his running back partner and what were they called? What was Norm VB teammate's (E. H) nickname? Should be easy. Finally what recent Ram's coach also coached against Rams in Super Bowl? Very easy! Finally, tell me what schools you attended growing up in LA and I'll return the favor. Careful, some are no longer around. Don't take 10 hours this time, respectfully.

giershift43
  4/30/2017 19:20 EST

The latest: President Trump’s deputy assistant Sebastian Gorka is reportedly OUT at The White House. Though his purpose in the White House is unclear, Gorka served for months on the Strategic Initiatives Group, which is an internal organization in the White House. He has also served as a national security adviser. News of Gorka’s departure from the White House comes at a time during which speculation has increased that a lack of a security clearance may have prevented him from performing his duties.

Pedroal
  4/30/2017 19:27 EST

Gosh! This here President job must be almost near impossible, 'cause our great leader, as we all know, is very, very, very smart. Intelligent, even. Very! Both! Best President ever! So there!

MexJuan1
  4/30/2017 19:27 EST

Good! They, finally, got one of the Nazis out of this administration who NEVER should have been there in the first place. Spies, Nazis, White Supremacists, Racist, Bigots, Foreign Enemy Sympathizers and Liars make up the rest. They're all going to fall like Dominoes, eventually...

Ramzfan
  4/30/2017 20:32 EST

Atta boy Pedro...I knew you'd finally see the light!

Pedroal
  4/30/2017 20:37 EST

Light at end of tunnel, its a train! Waiting for results of your Internet researcher there, Roman Gabriel.

Ramzfan
  4/30/2017 21:05 EST

So Pedro, I have to apologize. I just noticed that about half of the posts that come in on my phone go to spam. I just read the two you wrote about the Rams. I honestly don't know the answers to a lot of those questions. I'd have to guess at Eric the Dick's Univ. SMU? I am not a big fan of his since he didn't live up to his contract and jumped to the Colts because he was greedy. Not sure what Crazylegs' nickname was either. As far as the schools I went to in the LA area, I went to a total of seventeen grammar schools while I was growing up. When I reached Jr. High, I attended Sequoia Jr High in Reseda, then moved to Newport Beach, where I attended Newport Harbor High School. I also attended Orange Coast College before moving on to Art Center College of Design in Beverly Hills. Please, you're boring me with silly questions.

Cozumeldeb
  4/30/2017 22:16 EST

Ramzfan, short memory, Libtards and all your other name calling..Done here..This is for ex pats in MX.

Ramzfan
  4/30/2017 22:25 EST

Deb, I've been done with you for a long time. But just so you know, I never called any of you libbies names!

Pedroal
  5/1/2017 13:59 EST

Good job. This is first post you've written where you haven't bored or angered me with your simplistic, rote so called political/economic commentary, which should embarrass you rather than entertain you.
I lived in Reseda, Canoga Park, Tarzana, Studio City etc. etc./Hancock Park, Hollywood, Santa Monica, Venice.
Don't get much of your political focus any more than I do the folks who want to socialize everything. Simplistic, ' Greed is Good' misunderstanding of Econ 101. Predatory capitalism at its best. Wonder if youve ever been poor.
What University did you attend?
17 schools, that's like 1 per year. I attended 7 through high school and that was socially detrimental, to say the least. How is that even possible?/Well, at least you seem for real. or very believable anyway.There was substantial debate about that, as you know. One problem the left has is discounting the danger folks like you pose, who know just enough to be dangerous, and thinking they are too much of an outlier to be taken seriously.
Odd that some posts would go to spam, others not.

Pedroal
  5/1/2017 14:25 EST

RZ, just letting you know, sent you response, on case it went to Spam.
17 grammar schools, that is almost 3/year. Grammar schools go 1-6 grades. I went to 3, rough enough after skipping grades as well. That might explain a few things. Formative years, instability, etc. Don't think I've called you names, but from many of those Trump rallies your insistence on civility makes you an anomaly. And some ideas, like your absurd Obama birth references, go far beyond name calling. I'm done with you as well, unless you lighten up on the right wing craziness and want to talk about growing up in LA.
17 grammar school??? Is that even possible?

DeniseLR
  5/1/2017 17:31 EST

That design school was never in B.H., was it? On Fairfax in West L.A. In Pasadena now. Must have been you illegally recording the Latina professors anti Trump comments recently at your community college. Lots of us from Cali. RZ, you are a clever, closed minded person who thinks he is intelligent.

Ramzfan
  5/1/2017 17:33 EST

Pedro, I am impressed that you have some knowledge of the actual geographics of where we grew up...most libs only cared that we made it through the Cuban crisis...just kidding. Honestly, I have lots of friends who understand that we have differences, but we can still be friends. I have honestly been a Rams fan since 1953. I still have the program from my original game. My mom saved it and I found it when she died. You have changed my opinion of you with your last post, and I hope to remain friends through the next temultutuous times. I don't care what people say about my Rams, I am loyal...!

Ramzfan
  5/1/2017 18:55 EST

Just shows what you closed-minded libs know... the Art Center Cowher of Design was located in Beverly Hills (B.H. To you) for many years. I drove down there three nights a week for two + Years. It was moved to Pasadena in about 1980? You kids wouldn't know about that, now would you...?
.

Pedroal
  5/1/2017 19:45 EST

We're cool. Can't speak for Denise, tho she did like being called a kid. Life is short, wish we could all treat each other better. But I'd truthfully be a little happier w/o the Alex Jones rhetoric from anybody. We've put ourselves in a place as a species where there are no easy answers, Im afraid. Hope I'm wrong.
Another topic: I have no idea how the NFL suddenly decided the Chargers moving to LA along with the Rams was a good idea. Especially the Chargers! I guess if Jets and Giants could coexist...
Over and out. Going to take a break from this thread. It ain't restful fighting all the time.

Pedroal
  5/1/2017 19:46 EST

We're cool. Can't speak for Denise, tho she did like being called a kid. Life is short, wish we could all treat each other better. But I'd truthfully be a little happier w/o the Alex Jones rhetoric from anybody. We've put ourselves in a place as a species where there are no easy answers, Im afraid. Hope I'm wrong.
Another topic: I have no idea how the NFL suddenly decided the Chargers moving to LA along with the Rams was a good idea. Especially the Chargers! I guess if Jets and Giants could coexist...
Over and out. Going to take a break from this thread. It ain't restful fighting all the time.

DeniseLR
  5/1/2017 19:57 EST

Wondered if anyone noticed the NY times story about Mexico being one of the easiest countries in the world in which to kill a journalist. And not only by cartel types, but by public officials.

DeniseLR
  5/1/2017 20:14 EST

Just finished Saturday NY Times article on danger to journalists in Mexico, especially crime reporters. I wonder if you will still feel the same about living there after reading it.

giershift43
  5/1/2017 20:24 EST

Yes I saw that. No surprise. When I was in Oaxaca in 2013 that was discussed with people living there.

MexJuan1
  5/1/2017 20:31 EST

I did happen to read that article and I've seen several documentaries on the subject as well. Tough job, no doubt. trump wants to quell the press and limit the 1St Amendment by making it easier to sue them. I suppose that's not as bad but, his admiration and praise for Dictators and his secret desire to be one, makes me think that if he could, he'd kill them as well.

Ramzfan
  5/1/2017 20:34 EST

Pedro, all we have to do to treat each other better is to listen to one another and not be so quick to judge...that being said, I think it's a shame that the Chargers are moving to L. A. and sharing a stadium with the Rams. The Rams' owner put up his own money to build that stadium. San Diego could have done the same.

giershift43
  5/1/2017 20:41 EST

No change in my attitude. Why it was not new to me. I am still puzzled at why you are on this blog? If you feel uncomfortable then don't go. Many people hear the same thing even as they live there and are deal with it.

DeniseLR
  5/1/2017 21:25 EST

Wish I didn't agree with you about that.
Piece in Sunday's Albuquerque Journal, fairly conservative paper, discusses in depth the effect of a 'Wall' on our native wildlife on the Bootheel area. Not good.

Ramzfan
  5/1/2017 23:04 EST

Pedro, I have to say, that seventeen grammar schools sounds crazy, but my stepdad was a salesman and he had the entire West coast. It was when aluminum windows were first coming in, so we traveled with him from Seattle to San Diego and spent some time in Nevada while my mom got a divorce/re-married. My sister and I sat down years ago and wrote the names of all the grammar schools. I can only remember a few. When you average it out, it's about 3 months per school. We lived in motels. It was an experience, I was always the new kid in class.
Listen, I'm not about to change my stance on politics. I'm always willing to listen to the other side, unlike many liberals. As crazy as yo think my Obama birth certificate theory is, think about some of Juans posts where he thinks Trump is trying to have people killed so he can become a dictator...please!
Like I say, all opinions are interesting. All people are interesting. I have liberal friends both here and in Ajijic. Most are willing to talk. Others, we don't discuss politics.

Retiree2
  5/2/2017 13:57 EST

"Ramzfan

4/26/2017 21:02 EST


What do you guys think about Ted Cruz's idea to have the money from the famous Mexican drug lord Guzman pay for the wall...? I think it's brilliant! I understand that the U.S. Was paid 14 BILLION Dollars from Mexico to take him and make sure he didn't escape. That's just about enough to pay for the wall. Once again, our President is right....Mexico will pay for the wall...! "

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/04/25/ted-cruz-calls-14-billion-seized-el-chapo-fund-border-wall/

"Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) introduced a bill calling for the use of $14 billion seized from cartel drug lord Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzman to be used to pay for the President’s border wall between the U.S. and Mexico."

MexJuan1
  5/2/2017 14:30 EST

In the vein of a true trump fascist, according to your words, the money belongs to the U.S. so if, in fact, the bill does pass (doubtful), the money being used will be U.S. money. Typical "twisting" of the, actual, truth. Secondly, the estimated cost of this geographically impossible wall is 26.8 Billion. Another fact you've been conditioned to ignore. As far as keeping promises, your "fearless leader" wrote down (documented for those of you who don't understand it and can't (like him) admit failure) 10 things he'd accomplish in the first 100 days, which he bragged on constantly until the time frame became "ridiculous" because he had done none of the 10. he is so ineffective and incompetent that, even with his own party in control, he is legislatively undone. So much so that he's attacking Congress and looking to render the Constitution changed to "expand his range of power". Another sign of his Fascist leanings and of his desire to become a Dictator to destroy Democracy. None of which will happen in the U.S. Impeachment and Article 4 of the 25th Amendment talks are getting stronger. The treasonous spies (Flynn, Gorka) are being found out and gone with the rest to come beginning May 8 with the obvious collusion with him and his campaign and Russia. The clock is ticking on his and your time so, delude yourselves and enjoy what you can while you can. Also, BTW, his fake news emporium is going down in flames too. There are talks of replacing FOX NEWS with a less alt right station. Fox and Murdoch even entertained the idea of hiring Rachel Maddow. That's how desperate they are... "Sad" (sick) guy!

Ramzfan
  5/2/2017 14:45 EST

What you post Juan, is the HIGHEST COMPUTED ESTIMATE for the wall. That is why Trump is getting BIDS (something liberals don't understand) and why he plans to build the wall according to the most reasonable and sensible plan. As far as the first 100 days, he has accomplished more than any other president in his first 100 days, and it's only because of predjudiced liberals and judges that he hasn't accomplished his entire agenda. Don't worry though, HE WILL REIGN...!

Ramzfan
  5/2/2017 15:09 EST

Retiree... I too think it's brilliant! Let them talk what they want and quote all of the phonetic inflated costs that they can muster up...the bottom line is, the wall will get built and Trump will keep his promises...!

DeniseLR
  5/2/2017 20:38 EST

My opinion: Liberals can have dumb ideas. I have criticized Juan for potentially alienating allies by seemingly requiring too much agreement on everything. But the Obama B.C. is flat out bat sh... crazy and just makes anyone that clings to it lack credibility. There are valid, sensible conservative ideas. You generally don't make a good case for them by calling just about everyone involved in,,Obama presidency implicitly stupid or a liar because he (Obama) is an alien. And no proof that any sane, intelligent, educated person would believe. Read my intro to this thread and tell me if that sounds like a biased statement that just supports libs. You don't make a good case for conservatism. You haven't up until now,.anyway.
And, by the way, I don't like Democrats, I just dislike Republicans more, especially these days. Can't speak for Pedro.

Now. I can't find anything about any $14 billion given to US to imprison El Chapo. Another bonehead statement or is everyone losing their minds? Does anyone get how much that is?

Just curious. How did the poor, small country of North Korea, about 25 million get the resources to create nukes and missiles? I know the dictator is very, very smart! That must be it. Or China.
Maybe AO can arm Guatemala with nukes to contain Mexico on the South (joke). But seriously, if NK can do it there are a number of countries south of us with more people and larger economies than N Korea. Just saying.

MexJuan1
  5/2/2017 21:00 EST

Donald Trump is the single most, critical danger to Democracy, the way of life and living in America and the World today! He admires and lauds Dictators and Human Rights violators like Putin, El-Sisi, Erdogan, Duterte etc and shuns viable, respected leaders of allies like Merkel and the President of Australia, whose name escapes me right now. He and the Republicans have introduced "Health" Bills that would, literally KILL people if implemented. he is a proven pathological liar, unethical, immoral and incompetent. I have never sought "agreement" on anything but facts and/or simple Common Sense concerning the reality of this dangerous and poor excuse of a man but, I have to say that I will, thoroughly, enjoy watching his "sheeple" drown in their lies when he is brought down. May 8, the truth will begin to be revealed... So, be fair in your criticism, that's fine. I'm not a thin skinned, ego-maniacal narcissist and I can take it but, on this subject, no middle ground exists for me, period!

DeniseLR
  5/2/2017 21:10 EST

Most of that middle ground stuff is in your mind. Tell me what you want me to do, Juan? I'm sick of listening to the s.o.s. on this thread.

DeniseLR
  5/2/2017 21:11 EST

Or actually, don't. Please.

MexJuan1
  5/2/2017 21:47 EST

Do what you like. Do what you feel is right and just. Be a "real" person and use your brain. Emotion has replaced reality, fact and truth so, think. It's, really, very simple and blindly obvious to me.

Ramzfan
  5/2/2017 22:48 EST

Best post I've ever seen from you Juan...congratulations!

Ramzfan
  5/3/2017 10:54 EST

I would like to offer a little tidbit for Juan (and certain others) to suck on....have you ever thought that the Trump/Russia story might have been another fake ruse, made up by the DNC to "cushion" the fact that voters rejected Hillary and cast their votes to make America great again? Of course not...this theory doesn't fit in with the snowflakes grand scheme that Trump somehow "stole" the election and that nobody would have voted for him over Hillary, despite the fact that she had been proven to be a lying, cheating, crooked & murderous scumbag who didn't deserve to even be considered for the nomination, much less the Presidency. Now watch the hate-responses I get after this post.....

LeiaRowan
  5/3/2017 11:06 EST

lol, the problem with your "logic" Ram-z-boy is: First Hillary has never been convicted of anything and after 25+ years of GOP attempts, she would have been if she was guilty of anything. She is innocent and the most honest of all politicians in the USA. So your premise is wrong
Oh and the other premise is wrong too boyo, 3 million + more votes for Hillary means that she was not rejected, but won the election without the electoral college, she would and should be the President.
and as to us being snowflakes,.. I say this not in anger or hatred, but prepare for the storm !!!:-)

Ramzfan
  5/3/2017 11:11 EST

Leia....I have the next eight years to "prepare for the storm"....

DeniseLR
  5/3/2017 13:01 EST

Trump has pop ratings that are unprecedentedly low for a 1st year President, a White House staff in disarray, Republican Congressional members he has alienated by patronizing or trying to intimidate them. And conservatives commentators that have little good to say about him. I suppose he could turn things around. I hope not and I doubt it. At best a one term President?
Politics should not be like supporting a sports team as it is for many that don't try to understand policy. We spend some time at a community center where many retirees spend much time at the heavily subsidized center, getting cut rate breakfasts and lunches there as well, then go to the VA for health care, or have Medicare, sometimes subsidized by Medicaid. and EBT and utility bill subsidies. Then complain about too much free stuff. Except their free stuff. Disappointing how that mind set works.
Is Trump Darth Vader? We do have some checks and balances and much of what he wanted doesn't seem to get done. Rant and rave about him all you want, that is a main reason I would llke to keep this thread going. I cant stand the guy and think he is sadly uninformed and unprepared.
The right wing retorts are generally not worth responding to sadly. Bill Maher usually used to get smart conservatives on his show, back when we had cable. But clever one liners don't say anything about policy, its 3d grade stuff.

Ramzfan
  5/3/2017 14:41 EST

Denise, you're like all the rest of the lobbies...give the guy a chance! he's been in office for 3 months and you're bitching about how little he's gotten done...? C'mon! He's been blocked at every turn by Democrats and as soon as he figures out how to beat them (Don't forget, he never was a politician) you're going to see his ratings soar. I'm not disappointed or worried in the slightest. He is doing everything that I voted for him to do.

DeniseLR
  5/3/2017 22:56 EST

Ramzfan, you are a pretentious tool who doesn't understand much. You are a clever phony without much real intelligence or the ability to see that in yourself. Take your dimwitted ideas and community college education and shove them up that wrinkled old .... of yours. Never speak to me again. Can you do that, pretentious ignorant .... mean spirited, manipulative phony. Just blow it out your ass. Oh dear, am I sounding like your presidential love object? Sorry, I didn't mean to disrespect community colleges. I spent some time at one, but tried to keep going. F off, jerk.

DeniseLR
  5/3/2017 22:57 EST

Ramzfan, you are a pretentious tool who doesn't understand much. You are a clever phony without much real intelligence or the ability to see that in yourself. Take your dimwitted ideas and community college education and shove them up that wrinkled old .... of yours. Never speak to me again. Can you do that, pretentious ignorant .... mean spirited, manipulative phony. Just blow it out your ass. Oh dear, am I sounding like your presidential love object? Sorry, I didn't mean to disrespect community colleges. I spent some time at one, but tried to keep going. F off, jerk.

Ramzfan
  5/3/2017 23:17 EST

Has anyone here (with sense, I mean) ever noticed that liberals can't stand to hear differing opinions than their own...? It's either their way or the highway...! Why do you suppose that is? Do you think it's their lack of upbringing? Lack of education? Maybe they have a severe case of paranoia or try feel unworthy...whatever it is, it seems to be predominant in libbies only. Hmmm...?

giershift43
  5/3/2017 23:17 EST

Denise, nicely done

DeniseLR
  5/4/2017 00:09 EST

RZ, Juan was correct. You have no real opinions or insights. STFU or at least try to hear what someone else is saying. Then STFU. At some point it is clear who the enemy is. I may disagree with others but with your BS....your repetitive, simplistic stupid, cowardly, passive aggressive non statements. You are everything I despise.
Even a yapping dog finally figurels out noone gives a s...
You are the enemy. F off, jerk.

Ramzfan
  5/4/2017 09:55 EST

Ahh Sweet Denise, once again you have spoken like a true liberal lady. The education behind your words must be stunning and I'm sure they would make your parents proud. For me to wake up in the morning and know that I have aroused your democratic venom is something that I always look forward to. Keep smiling...the day can only get better.

Ramzfan
  5/4/2017 11:00 EST

Ah yes, the old " community college" attack. Lack of a "real education"....if you didn't go to a big school like Cal State Berkeley for instance, where they teach liberal lies and ways to milk the system, then you haven't really had any education. Never mind the fact that someone was in business for twenty plus years and took risks that very few liberals ever have. Never mind the fact that someone put food on the table for hundreds of families that worked for them. Never mind the fact that I sold my business in 2010 to a couple of democrats from California and they bankrupted it within two years, because they wouldn't listen to anyone. (Shock....a liberal who wouldn't LISTEN...?)
The truth is, people who want to succeed in life and have a driving desire to get ahead, are going to do so. They get the education that they NEED by picking & choosing. Those on the other hand, that believe just having a degree will get them where they want to be, will sometimes succeed also. They just won't be able to pick the path that it takes to get there. Sort of a "spin the bottle" career. I, for one, didn't want that. But not to get off the subject....if it makes you happy to try and belittle someone's educational choices, go right ahead. While I enjoy the fruits of my labors in my retirement, you can sit back in your little cottage and bleed for all of the disadvantaged in the world, who, because of their poor choices, are now trying to exist on a hand to mouth budget. Always remember, life isn't fair, but IT IS what you make of it....!

nelsonokelmgmailcom
  5/4/2017 11:10 EST

If everyone would just totally ignore this rectal sphincter (Ramzfan) he would go blind playing with himself!!!! STOP taking his bait!! Ignore him! STOP ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!

Ramzfan
  5/4/2017 11:25 EST

Nelson is right...IGNORE ME...! Stick your head in the sand and don't pay attention to ANYBODY that has ideas differing from your own. Hell, your own blind thinking has gotten you this far in life, hasn't it? Be like the DNC and Hillary...blame everything & everybody for losing. Don't take responsibility! The rest of the country is looking for serious change and you people are still wondering why you lost! Listen to Nelson, Gier & Denise...they'll get you on the right path. Hahahahaha!

DeniseLR
  5/4/2017 13:19 EST

Best answer, ignore lyin' blank head (AOs terminology). So true. And I will. Certainly entitled to spew garbage if he wants.
If this thread continues, which he clearly does not want, I hope it attracts more serious contributors than that pretentious phony (AO terminology again).

Pedroal
  5/4/2017 16:55 EST

I know Denise pretty well and know she actually tried to discuss issues related to Mexico often. The buffoon in question just doesn't like 'libbies',/not that he would know one, has no opinions on issues other than Canadians and Americans in Mexico are obnoxious anti social ' libbies' and the Mexicans are real nice, even to Trumpies. Well, I know a number of 'Mexicans' that wouldn't like him at all. Expect the Toyota problem, if real, may have been brought on by someone who actually knew him. Not trying to justify bad behavior...
Anyway, narcissists like him will only react to ridicule. Real issues seem meaningless to him. Do what you want, ignore him, engage him, insult him. I suggest only that you not understimate people like that, because we have marginally sociopathic narcissists like him for our new political 'circumstances'. Many of the electorate don't get, or understand, people that will say anything to achieve their goals, who have no conscience or shame, just an undying self love.
F off, jerk.

Ramzfan
  5/4/2017 17:56 EST

Hahahahaha....you're killing me Pedro, with your lack of knowledge. Hahahahaha!

giershift43
  5/4/2017 18:33 EST

For point of clarification you do not need to be a liberal to not like Trump.


Anyone who disagrees with Ramz he calls names in insults. Same as his hero.

giershift43
  5/4/2017 18:33 EST

For point of clarification you do not need to be a liberal to not like Trump.


Anyone who disagrees with Ramz he calls names in insults. Same as his hero.

giershift43
  5/4/2017 19:46 EST

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Ramzfan
  5/4/2017 21:48 EST

I call nobody names Gier...unless being called a "liberal" or a "libbie" offends you...? Personally, you could call me a conservative all day and it wouldn't offend me. You people are the ONLY ONES to call other people names. Not me.

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ghammond
  5/5/2017 09:50 EST

Hay Ramz, You seem to be holding your own in this thread. Congrats. I could not swim against the s__t storm they throw. Most of the other people on this form, are leaning so far left that it makes you (normal middle of the road conservative) seem to the right of the John Birch Society. I often wonder how they move through life with such a slanted view. Government employment must be the the only career choice for them. Which is why our governments (Fed to Local) are so messed up.

DeniseLR
  5/5/2017 10:55 EST

According to Barstool sports a fraternity, at Baylor I believe ( a Christian university) was suspended for having a 'Cinco de Drinco' party where attendees dressed up as maids and construction workers and chanted ' Build the Wall!!' Way to go, Tejas. I'm sure their orange role model had something to do with this seeming okay.

nelsonokelmgmailcom
  5/5/2017 11:07 EST

I really do not have many prejudices. Most of my negative attitudes are based upon solid irrefutable evidence! BUT, I must admit when I see the laws passed and the actions of "TEX"tards I do have a bad attitude!!

DeniseLR
  5/5/2017 11:12 EST

I wonder - don't know - if things might have been different if more of us had a really bad attitude before the election. Then again, maybe this current adversity will make us stronger in long run. What can I say? Its still morning and Im feeling optimistic.

DeniseLR
  5/5/2017 11:33 EST

I am going to start making a list of 'dangerous libbies' (defiinition: conservative with greater than room temp IQ) like George Will who do not support AO.

MexJuan1
  5/5/2017 12:17 EST

I'll make you a list of the states that will fall away from supporting the idiot "Country Club President" and will elect Democrats to replace Rep. House Members who voted for the trumpcare DEATH act. Starting with the top 11 most affected states who will LOSE COVERAGE and/or NOT be able to afford it. States like Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana etc. And many, many other states! ObamaCare is STILL the law of the land and will remain so thanks to the U.S. Senate. 600 Billion $ tax break for the 1% and no health care for the bottom 5% and Middle Class. Pushed through, unread and unqualified by most, if not all, who voted yes. Someone of prominence is going to be gravely affected over this at one of those Town Hall Mtgs. You think ppl we're angry before. Mark my words and wait and see... The "Billionaire Takeover" of America will have consequences.

giershift43
  5/5/2017 12:47 EST

Lol. You may want to look at bright conservatives as well such as George Wills

DeniseLR
  5/5/2017 17:21 EST

Neighbors down the street have put up a Confederate flag, I suppose in opposition to Cinco de Mayo. They used to do this more regularly when Obama was president. Very discouraging.

Ramzfan
  5/5/2017 18:07 EST

Ghammond, you're right! I have never seen such a biased bunch of liberals in my life! It's kind of fun though, being the hated one. What I don't understand though, is how I got branded a "name-caller" when I have never called them anything but libbies, and how they can continue to bury their heads to anything but liberal biased cr*p...? I mean even I, who am a Trump supporter, will listen to reason if someone points out something that he's doing that's unexplainable. I will do all I can to get an answer as to whatever it is, why & for what reason is he doing it. Not these people...they have no interest in why he's doing something...just blame him for being an a**hole and let's get him impeached...! And if you say something about their God Obama, you're a racist and NOBODY should ever converse with you again!
It's been fun though...kind of like doing a wildlife experiment but knowing you're never going to be able to write a thesis on it.

DeniseLR
  5/5/2017 18:08 EST

F off, jerk!

Ramzfan
  5/5/2017 18:43 EST

Denise...hahahahaha....you're the funniest of them all...! Hahahahaha...!

DeniseLR
  5/6/2017 17:57 EST

So the orange buffoon signaled he may ignore a congressional ban on interfering with state medical marijuana laws while buffoon general Sessions has dismissed arguments for its use as ,"desperate,, " Cartels should be happy.
And then this Secty.Army withdraws because of bigoted.
This is a real cluster f.... A lot of really pissed of people are taking to the streets, more. Oh, and f off jerk, Trump and the rest of his ilk You know who you are.

Ramzfan
  5/6/2017 18:19 EST

Hahahahaha.....more snowflake ranting...hahahahaha!

DeniseLR
  5/6/2017 18:28 EST

You must have something better to do than wait to respond to comments from those you dislike or disagree with. F off. Or go join Trump's cabinet. Or both. Sorry folks, promise I won't respond to the internet stalking of this witless tool again. At least today. Just remember, as big an ass as he is there are a lot out there like him, or worse. And we can't ignore all of them any more.
Now. I never read anything he says any longer so if this was a nice post? Naaaaahhhh,!

MexJuan1
  5/6/2017 18:31 EST

Keep the faith Denise! Things are going to start heating up for the treasonous, CRIMINAL, fifth grade level intellect (that's being generous) on Monday! Sally Yates coming back from the "dead" to "fire up the grill". Going to tell the Intel Committee she warned him about Flynn, he knew and did nothing. Because that's what he does best, NOTHING. Can you imagine how disgusting he is to Melania and how much she hates him? It's been said as much in many forums...

DeniseLR
  5/6/2017 18:33 EST

Right on, Juan!

Ramzfan
  5/6/2017 18:44 EST

I find it to be so refreshing that we now have a president in the United States that truly loves his country. One who does his damndest to follow through on all his campaign promises, despite the hurdles and the piles of excrement that are thrown in his path. It is truly nice to have a man who does not lie, who does not take kick-backs, and who honestly cares about ALL AMERICANS, not just the ones of color...!

MexJuan1
  5/6/2017 18:53 EST

He cares about the ones of color. GREEN...

giershift43
  5/6/2017 19:49 EST

Right on Juan!!

giershift43
  5/6/2017 19:52 EST

AO wants to cut money for addiction treatment by 94%. So much for health care for all at a lower price. Cutting medicaid and deciding that rape is a pre-existing condition. Not the people, but profits is who he serves.

giershift43
  5/6/2017 19:54 EST

rump really want to try and convince us that he cares about saving the country money? He is literally set to spend more on travel in his first year or two in office than President Obama spent in his entire eight years in office. Trump has been hopscotching around the country from Washington, D.C., to his Florida Mar-A-Lago resort and back again ever since taking office.

giershift43
  5/6/2017 20:10 EST

When the bill was first voted on in March, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said that it would result in 24 million more Americans losing insurance within a decade. This is partly because the bill greatly expands the list of pre-existing conditions that can impact someone's ability to receive insurance coverage. The list includes domestic violence and sexual assault.
And now, in an attempt to convince Senators to vote against the bill, those that would be affected are taking to Twitter to share their stories.

Iturbide
  5/6/2017 20:13 EST

The entire planet is laughing,,, in utter unbelief that a buffoon is Prez....We up north building a wall to deny "Trumpistas" entry

Iturbide
  5/6/2017 20:13 EST

The entire planet is laughing,,, in utter unbelief that a buffoon is Prez....We up north building a wall to deny "Trumpistas" entry

Iturbide
  5/6/2017 20:13 EST

The entire planet is laughing,,, in utter unbelief that a buffoon is Prez....We up north building a wall to deny "Trumpistas" entry

Ramzfan
  5/6/2017 20:24 EST

More liberal bullsh*t...! President Trump travels to MaraLago because it's his Coastal White House. Just like Eisenhower went to Camp David, Nixon to San Clemente, Clinton to Sex Island and Obama to the Hood. Those of you that don't understand having a meeting over a round of golf, have never been in business or played golf. (I guess it's pretty tough trying to play golf on unemployment) trying to make it sound like the president is on track to spend more than Obammy is just plain crap! Especially when all of the articles are written by liberal rags and are full of rediculous "extras" like "Donald's Son in Law jetting around the country & world"....he's a government employee for Gods sake! It's part of his JOB to travel...! Keep on quoting these pieces of liberal trash and I might have to assume that you people are biased....hahahahaha...!

MexJuan1
  5/6/2017 22:09 EST

No way! He's "working in Washington" isn't he? Well, at least, that's what he "PROMISED" he'd do? And we all know that he's kept ALL of his promises, right? To the wealthy, yes! To the ppl he conned into voting for him, not so much. ;-( What a guy huh? Got to be something, seriously, wrong with ANYONE who looks up to or supports a PHONY like him...

Cozumeldeb
  5/6/2017 23:02 EST

You don't have 8 mos, let alone 8 yrs. How out of touch with reality? are you...Your continuing rude comments shows your lack of knowledge/ information..You don't live in MX, so move along.

Cozumeldeb
  5/6/2017 23:20 EST

Kickbacks, that's rich, ignoring $3+ million each weekend, newest $700 billion in tax cuts to Uber rich so millions can die fast with no healthcare..Trump towers popping up everywhere, sons racing around world to sell off pieces of America..Ivan's new ghost written book + non compete trademarks awarded from dozens of countries..Such a tool, willfully ignorant.

Ramzfan
  5/6/2017 23:57 EST

I beg your pardon Deb, WHO doesn't live in Mexico? I live normally for six months a year in Mexico. (This year is different, as I have only been able to spend one month so far, due to unforeseen problems) Don't put words in my mouth. I am as much of a semi-ex-pat as you or anyone else on this forum. And my "rude comments", as you call them, are only "rude" to those who don't agree with them. The remainder of the SANE WORLD agrees wholeheartedly with me....!

MexJuan1
  5/7/2017 02:54 EST

Now you settle down "Mr. McMurphy" (Randle Patrick) or you and the boys aren't going to get to watch The World Series!

Cozumeldeb
  5/7/2017 10:19 EST

Interesting no comment on Trump's illegal activities, and shopping America around the world for his own gain..just that u live in MX..which is a dubious claim, if you do, why? Your hero has threatened Mexico and their people..stay in America..

Ramzfan
  5/7/2017 11:52 EST

Deb, Deb, Deb..,my "hero" hasn't threatened Mexico. Where do you people get these crazy ideas? All he's ever said was that he wants the playing field to be level...same rules for both sides. That's what I want too. There are rules when I travel to Mexico, and they should be the same when Pedro comes to America. And as far as Trumps "illegal activities", there are none that I'm aware of. Once again, another crazy statement from a not so stable liberal.

giershift43
  5/7/2017 12:02 EST

Here's one for you:
President Trump’s son, Eric, once told a golf writer that funding for Trump golf courses come from Russia, that writer recounted in a new interview.

James Dodson during an interview Friday with Boston’s WBUR described meeting Donald Trump in 2014 and being invited to play golf at the Trump National Golf Club Charlotte.

He said asked Donald Trump how he was paying for his courses, and the now-president “sort of tossed off that he had access to $100 million,” Dodson said in the interview.

Dodson said he then questioned Eric Trump, who was along for the day.

Ramzfan
  5/7/2017 12:12 EST

Well SUPPOSING that is true Gier, and I'm not so sure that it is, (that's called "hearsay") so what? You people act like it's illegal to deal with Russia. As far as I know it's not. Unless some new law has been passed that I'm not familiar with, we are not at war with Russia, nor have we been told to never deal with Russia. What's the big deal? Sounds to me like more liberal smoke-screen material to hide the fact that you just plain LOST THE ELECTION...!

DeniseLR
  5/7/2017 12:26 EST

What was that book (Bud Schulberg?, way back): "The Harder They Fall"!
F off Trumpie imbeciles.

DeniseLR
  5/7/2017 12:42 EST

Also find the movie "A Face in the Crowd" starring Andy Griffith to have some relevance. Love the ending.
B.F. says he thinks movies best related to AO regency are various sado masochistic X rated ones, but quickly added he's never actually seen one.
(Second statement neither endorsed or approved by the poster. But, you know......)

giershift43
  5/7/2017 12:50 EST

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/eric-trump-donald-golf-courses-russia-funding-golf-w

More than one source on this. I am sure you will find multiple reasons, they all lie.

giershift43
  5/7/2017 12:53 EST

Still waiting on those promised tax returns:The White House now has no intention of releasing President Donald Trump’s tax returns, said a top presidential adviser, stepping away from a campaign promise he will do so when an audit of them is completed.

“The White House response is that he’s not going to release his tax returns. We litigated this all through the election. People didn’t care. They voted for him,” Kellyanne Conway, counselor to the president, said on Sunday.

Conway made her comments upon being asked in an appearance on ABC’s “This Week With George Stephanopoulos” about a White House petition posted on Friday demanding Trump’s returns be released. There are well over the 100,000 signatures required to meet the threshold to get a White House answer.

giershift43
  5/7/2017 12:53 EST

Still waiting on those promised tax returns:The White House now has no intention of releasing President Donald Trump’s tax returns, said a top presidential adviser, stepping away from a campaign promise he will do so when an audit of them is completed.

“The White House response is that he’s not going to release his tax returns. We litigated this all through the election. People didn’t care. They voted for him,” Kellyanne Conway, counselor to the president, said on Sunday.

Conway made her comments upon being asked in an appearance on ABC’s “This Week With George Stephanopoulos” about a White House petition posted on Friday demanding Trump’s returns be released. There are well over the 100,000 signatures required to meet the threshold to get a White House answer.

Ramzfan
  5/7/2017 13:20 EST

I hope President Trump NEVER releases his tax returns! The most enjoyable thing I get to watch every day is liberals whining and bitching about things they have no control over with our president...why would I ever want that to change...?

giershift43
  5/7/2017 13:56 EST

I'm back to work this last week like all the lazy liberals. So I do not have much time for RAmz nonsense. I also have a couple of hours to work today. I turned 68 and still working, paying taxes and glad to be able to do it. I am still hoping to make a couple of trips to Lake Chapala to figure out if we can move there on at least a semipermanent basis. Later

giershift43
  5/7/2017 14:43 EST

Releasing his tax returns could confirm his lies. You wouldn't want that.

giershift43
  5/7/2017 14:45 EST

SHANGHAI — Like many American firms that come to China looking for money, Kushner Companies on Sunday tried to woo a Shanghai audience with promises of potentially big returns and a path toward living in the United States.

But for Bi Ting, who attended the event, part of the appeal was political: Jared Kushner is the son-in-law of — and a powerful adviser to — President Trump. Virtually unheard-of in China just months ago, he is now known here as a deeply influential figure in American politics.

“The Trump relationship is an extra point for me,” Ms. Bi said, adding that she and her husband had not decided whether to invest.

The Kushner Companies’ China roadshow, promoting $500,000 investments in New Jersey real estate as the path to a residency card in the United States, moved to Shanghai on Sunday after a similar pitch on Saturday in Beijing. Security was tighter in Shanghai than it had been in Beijing, where reporters for The New York Times and The Washington Post briefly attended the event before being kicked out.

giershift43
  5/7/2017 14:59 EST

But I do like this story: One woman stood up in Busti, New York with a message for Rep. Reed on healthcare. Video of her powerful contribution to the town hall meeting is quickly being shared on social media and featured on Sunday’s political news shows.

The woman identified herself as a military veteran and then proceeded to school her congressional representative in less than one full minute.

‘I am a veteran of the U.S. Air Force and I have single payer. It has saved my life four times. There is no profit in single payer. We have to get the profit and that is why you’re here. You’re talking about tax exemption and property tax relief. These are human beings. We have bodies, we have minds. We are not property taxes. That’s how you boil everything down, into money. We are not money, we are a nation.’

Ramzfan
  5/7/2017 14:59 EST

Or could confirm liberal myths...naw, wouldn't want to burst your bubble...!

Ramzfan
  5/7/2017 15:06 EST

Re: Shanghai....the path to PROFIT is through the United States. "Profit" is still not a dirty word, despite what liberals might tell you...!

MexJuan1
  5/7/2017 15:29 EST

It's like I've said before, many times. his tax returns will reveal three things. 1. That he's NOT as rich as he claims which is why he's, currently, living "high off the hog" on the tax payers dime. 2. Expose his "dirty dealings" (AZERBAJIAN TO MENTION JUST ONE. DEALING WITH A MAFIA FAMILY AND TERRORISTS FROM IRAN) with other criminals like him and his Conflicts of Interest violating ethical behavior and 3. Expose his Foreign Entanglements that will account for evidence in his collusion with Russia. Like where that 19% of the sale of that Russian Company went? I'd say Page, Sessions, Flynn, Kushner and Manafort's would reveal similar issues. And again, he would turn tail and run from office before showing them. Even if subpeoned. Which won't happen cause Brady (Ways and Means Committee) would have to do it and he's so far up trump's butt, they're tongues are touching one another. He was an unethical, immoral, criminal business man. NOTHING HAS CHANGED!

Cozumeldeb
  5/7/2017 17:31 EST

Ramzfan, as the famous saying goes you are entitled to your opinion, as we all are, but NOT your own facts. You ignore legit polling, Russia, Flynn, Page, Manafort and the lies he told the worst of America..Doubt his healthcare will go anywhere, however if the folks who did vote for me wake up and study his bill it is a death sentence for large % of his rural red state supporters..Your claims of biz success rings hollow too, several on here are former or current business owners, your mindset is NOT that of success, more the whinning of a bust out loser.. whichever, as Nelson said you are not worth the keystrokes..Thank God Democrats far out number Rethugs in MX..

giershift43
  5/7/2017 17:37 EST

Good job Cozumel Deb.

The folks who live in alternate realities and create alternate facts or what is better know as falsehoods.

Ramzfan
  5/7/2017 18:15 EST

Deb, I too, am a former business owner as well as a current one. I am a great believer in the business sense of Trump. It doesn't mean I disrespect your opinion, it's just that I think I'm right. Whomever I end up believing in, I will always believe that we all have a right to our own opinions. It doesn't mean I'm right and you're wrong or vice-Versa. Believe it or not, I am for everyone's opinion, and even if I'm in the minority, as I was when Obama was elected, I'm willing to accept the will of the majority.

giershift43
  5/7/2017 19:26 EST

So we're those who followed Hilter. We need to follow our consciences and as Americans not be afraid to dissent.

giershift43
  5/7/2017 19:29 EST

If Trump is so great, you must love Al Capone !

DeniseLR
  5/7/2017 19:34 EST

Then maybe Bill Gates should have been President, not this classless, embarrassing oaf. Who, by the way, like the power hungry tend to do, has adopted every political stance in the book at some point in time. Please...

giershift43
  5/7/2017 19:41 EST

Bill Gates has class and intelligence!! Trump has neither.
Warren Buffet made his money with brains. Trump exploits anyone and anything he can. Huge difference in character.

DeniseLR
  5/7/2017 19:43 EST

Exactly.

giershift43
  5/7/2017 20:07 EST

bipartisanreport.com/.../neurologist-diagnoses-trump-with-cognitive-failure-mental-ab.

giershift43
  5/7/2017 20:09 EST

A Medical Theory for Donald Trump's Bizarre Behavior | New Republic
https://newrepublic.com/article/140702/medical-theory-donald-trumps-bizarre

giershift43
  5/7/2017 20:09 EST

A Medical Theory for Donald Trump's Bizarre Behavior | New Republic
https://newrepublic.com/article/140702/medical-theory-donald-trumps-bizarre

giershift43
  5/7/2017 20:14 EST

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/06/business/dealbook/warren-buffett-berkshire-health-care.html?_r=0

giershift43
  5/7/2017 20:14 EST

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/06/business/dealbook/warren-buffett-berkshire-health-care.html?_r=0

giershift43
  5/7/2017 20:18 EST

Jared Kushner wasn’t forthcoming about conflicts of interest in his government disclosure forms

Like his wife, Jared Kushner has had a bad week when it comes to the public’s perception of his integrity. It turns out that, when filling out his government disclosure forms, Kushner failed to mention his co-ownership of a tech startup that makes him business partners will billionaires like George Soros and Peter Thiel (the latter of whom has been a supporter of Trump). He also neglected to mention that he has at least $1 billion worth of loans from more than 20 different lenders, with $300 million of it being personally guaranteed by himself.

The Trump International Hotel is the swampiest place in Washington

This line from a Bloomberg piece in which reporter Max Abelson spent more than two straight days hobnobbing with Trump’s inner circle at the Trump International Hotel in Washington really sums it up:

“The hotel lobby is drawing Trump fans who cheered his promises to drain Washington’s swamp, along with the power players who know how to swim in it,” Abelson writes. “Because much of their money will end up in Trump’s pocket, and the government he controls leased the building to him, few places present more potential conflicts for the president.”

Ramzfan
  5/7/2017 21:03 EST

Jeez, I thought you were "back to work today" Gier and didn't have time to waste on me...? You must have quite a job, that you can take the time to look up all those words and then put them down on your Android phone. Nice going...I'm honored...! Don't let your boss catch you though. Or do you have the kind of government job that gives you full protection from being fired..? What do they call that...Civil Service?

giershift43
  5/7/2017 21:16 EST

I was at work and now I'm home. But your too much fun to let go too easily. What you only do one thing at a time???

Ramzfan
  5/7/2017 21:50 EST

Now that's the nicest thing you've ever said to me Gier...yes, I'm only good at one thing at a time. I'm a man, you know. We weren't born to multi-task.

MexJuan1
  5/8/2017 05:04 EST

Oh and, BTW "Con-Id" (figure it out genius!) VIVE LE MACHRON! Guess Putin's 11Mil+ went for naught in French Election and your support for another Fascist and prediction for the "French Trump" swirled down the toilet like the rest of your ideas and opinions... I guess the French are smarter (and learned) from the "dumbed down Con-Ids in the U.S.? No sway for Putin and Russia in France! More proof of a COHESIVE PLAN between him and the Head CRIMINAL of COLLUSION... The "scheme" begins to unravel today with Sally Yates testimony that your "fifth grade hero" knew, EXACTLY, what was going on with Flynn and why he didn't vett him because he was right where Putin wanted him to be... Going to be fun watching this prosecution go down. Watch the "rats jump ship". Flynn, Manafort, Page go to jail and DJT and the rest of his "gang" get shown the door. The @realtruthaboutdonaldtrump, is about to come out. I'm excited!!! You, not so much... ;-(

Ramzfan
  5/8/2017 10:30 EST

Juan, you are a bitter man. (I'm assuming that you're a man) Does working in the sun do that to you? You need a sombrero with a wider brim. How do you get paid? By the hour or by the bag? I have a lot of respect for most gardeners. You, I'm not so sure. There's nothing worse than having a delusional weed-puller hanging around your property. Maybe the policia need to be informed about you...

MexJuan1
  5/8/2017 10:39 EST

G. F. Y. S....

DeniseLR
  5/8/2017 10:44 EST

Porfavor, pero tal vez con algo mas grande.

giershift43
  5/8/2017 12:07 EST

today: Charles Munger, the vice chairman at Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway Inc., said the leaders of his political party risk going too far in their efforts to reduce oversight of banks.

“My fellow Republicans -- the ones taking away all this regulation of major finance -- I think that’s bonkers,” Munger, 93, said Monday on CNBC.

giershift43
  5/8/2017 12:07 EST

today: Charles Munger, the vice chairman at Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway Inc., said the leaders of his political party risk going too far in their efforts to reduce oversight of banks.

“My fellow Republicans -- the ones taking away all this regulation of major finance -- I think that’s bonkers,” Munger, 93, said Monday on CNBC.

Ramzfan
  5/8/2017 12:19 EST

Being as we're posting all of this news today, what do y'all think of the latest U.S. Jobs report? 4.4% unemployment! Best it's been in ten years! Even CNN said "Wow!" Give him enough time, he'll have all you libbies back to work...!

MexJuan1
  5/8/2017 12:36 EST

As I've said from the beginning of all of this, if given enough time, he'll destroy the United States as we've all known it. Killing the poor, sick, disenfranchised and elderly. Destroying the Middle Class and making America an Aristocracy, Oligarchy, Capitalistic Dictatorship, whatever you want to call. No rules for them and the existing masses, a down trodden society. No more Life, Liberty and certainly NOT ANY Pursuit of Happiness. This poor excuse of a man cares about no one but himself... I think we're going to find out soon, though, that Flynn was the Russian Mole in the U.S. Govt. as part of the collusion deal between trump and Russia. He knew!!!

giershift43
  5/8/2017 12:52 EST

Mexjuan, I agree. His distain for experts and the educated are closely aligned with the history of fascist regimes. Book burning and jailing of professors are part of this dictatorial style. Calling educated elitists and devaluing them is Nazi like.

giershift43
  5/8/2017 12:54 EST

I think the low jobless rate did not happen overnight, but began in the previous administration and still has momentum from that administrations policies.

Cozumeldeb
  5/8/2017 15:29 EST

Fired Acting AG Sally Yates, is testifying, right now in front of Senate Committee, headed by Sen. Lindsay Graham..Trump tweeting she is guilty of leaks..haha..the beginning of the end.

DeniseLR
  5/8/2017 15:54 EST

I certainly hope so! Keeping my fingers crossed.

giershift43
  5/8/2017 17:10 EST

At an event in Beijing, the Kushner family reportedly used the family’s ties to the Trump administration and the promise of a U.S. visa to encourage investment. But that’s not all?—?a journalist was reportedly threatened and harassed when she attempted to cover the incident. (corrupt to the core)

giershift43
  5/8/2017 17:16 EST

The House Republicans are pushing the Financial Choice Act to strip away nearly all of the Dodd-Frank protections that were passed to prevent a devastating crash from happening again.

Deregulating Wall Street is a great way for a small handful of millionaire and billionaire investment bankers and hedge fund managers to make a quick buck, but that’s about it.

Ramzfan
  5/8/2017 19:20 EST

Juan, you live in a fantasy world. You're hoping that some little scumbag is going to bring DT down, but the truth of the matter is, it's all the little scumbags who worked for Hillary & Obama that created the problems in the first place...!!

Ramzfan
  5/8/2017 19:23 EST

Gier...hahahahaha hahahahaha.!!!!

Ramzfan
  5/8/2017 21:27 EST

Well, there 'ya go....the head of the Democratic Party just admitted that there are no signs of any collusion between Russia & Donald Trump.. it was just like I said it was: a liberal smokescreen invented for one reason only...so that the snowflakes didn't have to stand up like grown ups and admit that THEY LOST...!

MexJuan1
  5/8/2017 22:09 EST

1St "Nail in the Coffin". Appropriately, pounded in by a woman! ;-)

DeniseLR
  5/8/2017 22:12 EST

I am hoping more and more people take to the streets, just as during the Nixon era. Can't believe wait.

DeniseLR
  5/8/2017 22:21 EST

Meant "Can't Wait". I swear this phone's edit function is out of control. Interesting article in Business Section of Albuquerque Journal about AO's confusion, mixed messages and reversals on NAFTA, putting unnecessary pressure on states with strong economic relations with Canada and Mexico and of course on those countries themselves. Boy, how about those keen business instincts! Way beyond the comprehension of us lesser human beings, including the Canadians and Mexicans.

MexJuan1
  5/8/2017 22:27 EST

So INCOMPETENT he didn't vett his NSA. then, two (2) days after being warned by a "Career Professional", who if you compare their credibility it's like Al Capone vs. Mother Theresa, he allows Flynn in on a call to Putin, their partner in crime. Why? Because he knew, plain and simple. He engineered and brokered the collusion "deal" because he's such a great deal maker. Dumb as a ROCK but, such a deal maker. The misogynist picked the wrong girl to fire. That's for sure! Clapper was an emphatic point to the fool's incompetence and inability to perform in the office. And it will only get worse for him from here on. The "Henchmen" are yet to come. So enjoyable to watch!

Cozumeldeb
  5/8/2017 23:11 EST

Assume you are referring to Senate hearings today with Sally Yates/ James Clapper. No Democrat claimed that BS

giershift43
  5/8/2017 23:24 EST

Alternate facts and fake news. So amazing that anyone can follow this amoral and delusional man.

giershift43
  5/8/2017 23:25 EST

I hope. This nightmare of self serving exploitation of the nation cannot end soon enough.

giershift43
  5/8/2017 23:27 EST

You hear what you want to hear. There was clearly collusion. The issue is whether is broke a law.

giershift43
  5/8/2017 23:29 EST

Were there actually people who thought Mexico would pay for the wall?
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Yes. Millions of them. And for the same reason that most errors are made in U.S. foreign policy. Many U.S. citizens believe that the citizens of other countries would react differently than U.S. citizens when facing the same situation, being this situation an invasion, or hearing a foreign leader insulting their countrymen. In the case of Latin America in particular, there is also a common narrative in U.S. media that infantilize Latin American countries, and depicts them as childish countries in need of the advice of a strong father (the U.S.) to know what to do. But nothing could be farther from reality, especially today.

I believe it is a paradoxical consequence of U.S. exceptionalism beliefs, originated in the 19th century but still followed by too many U.S. citizens. What is worst is that today these beliefs can be exacerbated by many Hollywood movies, and their consequences can be worsened when listening to a lot of stories about “globalization” in the news is combined with little personal experience with foreign cultures and a lack of basic knowledge about foreign countries. Though I don’t believe most U.S. citizens follow U.S. exceptionalism beliefs when dealing with people from other countries, many U.S. citizens do follow them. And the problem is that when a person begins to think that his own culture is superior in everything, not only he starts to believe that international rules should not apply fully to his own country, but he tends to underestimate any other culture, and even consider that only he and his countrymen monopolize all that is strong, mature, or even good in human nature. This leads to costly mistakes, once and again.
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Ramzfan
  5/9/2017 10:44 EST

Well, the charade continues...even though numerous democrats have testified that they have seen "no signs of collusion between the Trump campaign & the Kremlin", the FIRED EMPLOYEES of the Trump administration continue to try and make our president look guilty. Ho-hum...when will it end...? Anyone who would waste their time watching this garbage is either a (pick one) a. Gardener. B. Government employee c. On welfare d. Conspiracy theorist. e. Nuts

giershift43
  5/9/2017 12:34 EST

Ramz, we get it. You love Trump. Now what?? Not relevant to the site and tired of hearing about it .

Ramzfan
  5/9/2017 12:41 EST

What? Is this only an ANTI-TRUMP site...? Sorry, I didn't mean to crush any snowflake feelings...!

DeniseLR
  5/9/2017 12:48 EST

I don't even mind his loving the AO regency. But there is little substantive behind it. His arguments, which I no longer read, are similar to soccer fans fighting over which team is better. That can get really violent. Mite heat than light.
His bro, Mike Huckabee, evidently tweeted (if Ive got this correctly from daily Kos) that for Cinco de Mayo he would drink a bottle of hot sauce, watch old Speedy Gonzalez cartoons. and speak espanol all day.
Rz, she is politely telling you to STFU, porfavor.

DeniseLR
  5/9/2017 12:48 EST

I don't even mind his loving the AO regency. But there is little substantive behind it. His arguments, which I no longer read, are similar to soccer fans fighting over which team is better. That can get really violent. Mite heat than light.
His bro, Mike Huckabee, evidently tweeted (if Ive got this correctly from daily Kos) that for Cinco de Mayo he would drink a bottle of hot sauce, watch old Speedy Gonzalez cartoons. and speak espanol all day.
Rz, she is politely telling you to STFU, porfavor.

giershift43
  5/9/2017 13:12 EST

I didn't join to hear your ideas about Trump. I joined to learn more about the responses to U.S. Policies in Mexico.

So far you have not contributed to that topic.

Ramzfan
  5/9/2017 13:15 EST

Nor have any of you snowflakes...!

giershift43
  5/9/2017 13:20 EST

Denise, He contributes nothing useful.
He said since Trump was elected that he didn't need to move. So he just likes keeping this going. You know your basic A.H.

Ramzfan
  5/9/2017 13:25 EST

Can't wait to watch Juan go down in flames and self-explode when he finds out nothing can or will happen to DT after the "hearings!"

MexJuan1
  5/9/2017 13:42 EST

Everyone, read this! http://google.com/newsstand/s/CBIwOuKG8TQ.......................The guy who wrote this article studied this idiot for 29 years! Interesting read.

ghammond
  5/9/2017 14:08 EST

MexJ RE: post dated 5/8/2017 12:36 EST Perfect description of the Obama administration except for the collusion of the Obama administration with radical Islam to destroy the USA.

ghammond
  5/9/2017 14:09 EST

MexJ RE: post dated 5/8/2017 12:36 EST Perfect description of the Obama administration except for the collusion of the Obama administration with radical Islam to destroy the USA.

MexJuan1
  5/9/2017 14:38 EST

Sure it is. Other than the fact that Obama is a Harvard Graduated, Constitutional Lawyer who is highly respected and was NEVER investigated for ANYTHING other than the bogus charge made by the Con Man who is widely disapproved of, not respected by 65% of Americans and most of the rest of the World, is a bigot, racist, pathological liar, under investigation by the FBI, The U.S. Senate, The House for collusion with a foreign state enemy and unqualified to do the job Russia put him in. Other than the fact that Obama SAVED America from destruction of another conservative Rep. Pres. and trump is destroying the country and all but the wealthy ppl in it, your point is so well taken??? If you deny all fact, I guess you're right???

giershift43
  5/9/2017 15:30 EST

Correct. If the premise is false then the argument can work.

giershift43
  5/9/2017 15:32 EST

Gratuitous assertion based what ??

Ramzfan
  5/9/2017 19:23 EST

God, I love it...Comey is FIRED...there is going to be a NEW FBI director! Things are coming
Together in the new AO cabinet of trusted officials...!

Ramzfan
  5/9/2017 22:36 EST

How about that...? James Comey is Fired and now the Dems are saying that Trump did it to protect himself from the investigation...haha! Three or four months ago, the Dems were calling for his head! Hillary still says he was one of the main reasons that she lost! (At least, SHE admits that she lost) I think the libs have gone NUTS...! The right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing or saying! I love it though...there's nothing more fun than watching libbies contradict themselves! Hahahahaha...! You go girls....!

worxs
  5/10/2017 09:36 EST

Everyday just gets a little bit brighter. After eight more years these libtards will be in the insane ward or have a stroke.

Ramzfan
  5/10/2017 09:54 EST

Amazing ...! Three of the richest Democrats in the world are now praising President Trump and giving him advice...! Warren Buffet, Bill Gates and Charlie Munger all went on Fox News and were very warm with the things they said about our president. It shows that not ALL liberals have their heads in dark places...!

DeniseLR
  5/10/2017 19:47 EST

Not brighter, Trump butt boy, your eyes are getting dimmer. Like your intellect. You don't get it, dont want to get it, and never will.

giershift43
  5/10/2017 20:01 EST

How's that wall coming ? The one Mexicans are going to pay for? Except congress has to vote to fund it ?

Ramzfan
  5/10/2017 20:15 EST

The wall/ fence will be built, mark my words...Congress doesn't stand a chance against our President Trump. And by the way, to the one with the potty mouth...how's those hearings going...? The one where the gardener said "Trump was going to get his" and that he was "excited" to follow what happens...? Hahahahaha...!

DeniseLR
  5/10/2017 20:21 EST

Were they, Ramzfan? Please enlighten us as to where we can find this transcription or video. Only one of your ilk that gets an orgasmt.thnking about AO regency is your bro Cal Thomas
This isnt Denise (Pedroal) but feel free with your misogynistic comments anyway. She doesn't read your " opinions".

Ramzfan
  5/10/2017 20:46 EST

Denise...????? What in the hell are you talking about? Don't understand all your coded lingo. You women are talking crap from a different planet.

giershift43
  5/10/2017 20:59 EST

Ok should we talk more slowly! Do complete sentence confuse you???

DeniseLR
  5/10/2017 21:02 EST

Well, I saw the CNBC interview where Gates nowhere likened AO to JFK, unless he meant something more sinister.( not possible unless he said it backward or used secret gang signals) No where could I find. WB praise. He was a Clinton supporter.and like Gates, has to play some politics. WH won't help you if all you do is run them down. You at least need a level playing field. Clue me in, great biographer of AO legend. Or not, I could really care less. Maybe someone more accurate will let me know. And of now I still consider you a L. P.O.S. By the way, have they started on that wall lately? Sounds like N and S Korea.

giershift43
  5/10/2017 21:06 EST

The Trump administrative is the more incompetent and corrupt administration ever!!! Bogged down in one scandal after another .

Ramzfan
  5/10/2017 21:10 EST

Denise, do I need to speak more slowly? I definitely said they were on FOX NEWS, not CNBC...! NOBODY watches CNBC...! Hahahahaha! You kill me!

Ramzfan
  5/10/2017 21:19 EST

To tell you the truth dear, or should I say Gier? ...what confuses me most are incomplete sentences, poorly assembled sentences, poor spelling and uneducated punctuation usage. Other than that, I can usually manage to interpret what a liberal is trying to say. It's the usage of childish abbreviations and initials that usually leave me puzzled and wishing that I had never stepped off my porch and into the goo.

worxs
  5/10/2017 21:31 EST

Potty mouth, gear shift, pampered deb and landscaper.. all living in a obama world that no longer exists... Low growth with false growth with QE.

Hold onto your skirts! Make America Great Again! I need sunglasses the future is so bright!

giershift43
  5/10/2017 21:59 EST

Aw.. the leadership of the famous quote" they can go ____ themselves." Such inspiration.

DeniseLR
  5/10/2017 22:52 EST

I received a private mssg from nelson asking me, in more colorful terms. to ignore one of our 'classiest and best informed, guest, (just ask him).. I wrote a long response which I won't do again as It didn't reach him and mssg said email may be wrong. Did you get it Nelson?

DeniseLR
  5/11/2017 07:06 EST

RZ, answer my question you senile a hole. Show me where I can find a transcription or video of this of this interview. Don't know if you need to speak more slowly. You can type cant you? Works about as slowly as your brain. Again,patronizing buffoon,. this is Pedro using Denise's phone so feel free to continue with your misogynistic embarrassing ( to you) comments. Try to remember the question. Can you do that, old man?

Pedroal
  5/11/2017 07:13 EST

Denise rarely reads your inept commentary. Why bother, its a joke and you are a dishonest manipulative fool. I just want to see BG and WB figuratively kissing our regent's ring. Please, just keep quiet if you can't give am honest, factual answer. Otherwise, FOAD.

MexJuan1
  5/11/2017 07:55 EST

I guess it was a "good" idea for Comrade trump to fire Comey after he asked for more resources to investigate his collusion with Russia? The Cover Up more obvious now than ever. Investigation en fuego...Comey free to talk, publicly, about what he knows? Maybe, just maybe, a bad idea to, obviously, lie about why he did it? Tick, tick, tick...

Cozumeldeb
  5/11/2017 10:02 EST

"You Women," seriously? Brain dead, pity any women who have to deal with you on a regular basis.

Cozumeldeb
  5/11/2017 10:03 EST

"You Women," seriously? Brain dead, pity any women who have to deal with you on a regular basis.

Ramzfan
  5/11/2017 10:36 EST

Isn't it amazing that at the time of the election and for months afterwards, the Dems were screaming for Comey's head on a platter. Now that the president has fired him, the Dems are up in arms against it. Silly Dems...they can't make up their minds. Talk about obstructionists! Their whole purpose in life is to do anything against Trump. What a bunch of jerks!

giershift43
  5/11/2017 12:17 EST

Anyone living in Mexico able to provide information on experiences regarding the topic?

giershift43
  5/11/2017 12:17 EST

Anyone living in Mexico able to provide information on experiences regarding the topic?

giershift43
  5/11/2017 12:17 EST

Anyone living in Mexico able to provide information on experiences regarding the topic?

rudyn1
  5/11/2017 12:27 EST

How do I "unsubscribe" to this topic? The back and forth b.s. is inappropriate on this forum. The topic is important but what i want to hear is how it affects expats living in Mexico, not the unending b.s. between Ramzfan and others. Please stop this b.s. or tell me how to get off this post even while continuing to search Mexico forum.

rudyn1
  5/11/2017 12:27 EST

How do I "unsubscribe" to this topic? The back and forth b.s. is inappropriate on this forum. The topic is important but what i want to hear is how it affects expats living in Mexico, not the unending b.s. between Ramzfan and others. Please stop this b.s. or tell me how to get off this post even while continuing to search Mexico forum.

rudyn1
  5/11/2017 12:27 EST

How do I "unsubscribe" to this topic? The back and forth b.s. is inappropriate on this forum. The topic is important but what i want to hear is how it affects expats living in Mexico, not the unending b.s. between Ramzfan and others. Please stop this b.s. or tell me how to get off this post even while continuing to search Mexico forum.

LeiaRowan
  5/11/2017 13:16 EST

I'm going to explain in more detail why the firing of Comey is important. When a law enforcement agency investigates potential misconduct by those who oversee the law enforcement agency, there is an inherent conflict of interest. To what extent can you really investigate criminal behavior on the part of your boss, or his staff, if the boss can order you not to investigate, or fire you for doing so? State and local governments have systems to handle this, where they hand the case over to a different agency to investigate. If the son of a member of your city council were arrested for drunk driving, the case would likely be handed off for investigation and potential prosecution by a neighboring city which lacked any conflict in the case.
But that doesn't work for the Federal government. There's no system for handing such cases off to Canada. How the US has instead handled this is by establishing a norm -- a custom -- granting a great deal of independence to anyone investigating the White House including the FBI or a Special Prosecutor. Interfering with such an investigation just isn't done, as it shatters the independence of the investigation. The major exception to this in US history was the Saturday Night Massacre during Watergate, when Special Prosecutor Archibald Cox subpoenaed Nixon's tapes -- the tapes that eventually proved Nixon knew about the break-in and lead to his resignation. The Saturday Night Massacre caused outrage *because* Nixon was interfering in the investigation, and was the basis for one of the articles of impeachment that were being drafted against him.
This isn't partisan. It's the way the system has to operate for impartiality. If you can fire anyone who investigates you, you are immune to the law, and no one should be beyond the law, particularly the President. For my conservative friends, imagine if President Hillary Clinton had fired Comey for continuing with an investigation of her after she was inaugurated. Do you want to set the precedent that this would be okay?
That's what's at stake here. Trump has laid down a marker strongly implying he will fire anyone who investigates him, and all the agencies that have the legal authority to investigate him report to him. Is the President subject to the law, or above it?
You don't have to believe he, or his staff, are guilty of anything here -- you don't even have to believe Comey was a good FBI director. You just have to believe that the President shouldn't be interfering with investigations into misconduct by him and his staff by firing the investigators. If the President believes the law enforcement agency has its own agenda, there is a way to handle that without interfering in a potentially valid investigation -- it's called a special prosecutor. Contact your legislators and ask that they support the appointment of one to investigate this case, as it's now clear Trump won't let the FBI do it independently. The rule of law is at stake.
This was written by Tom Miller.

Ramzfan
  5/11/2017 14:45 EST

Rudyn....just scroll down to the bottom of your post...it explains how you can unsubscribe to a thread. For a more detailed explanation, you'll have to ask Gier or Denise... they know almost everything...!

Ramzfan
  5/11/2017 15:03 EST

Leia...one little problem with your article... you state " if President Hillary Clinton"...All of you libbies need to understand THERE IS NOT, AND NEVER WILL BE a "President Hillary Clinton"....!! Hahahahaha...!

DeniseLR
  5/11/2017 15:49 EST

Leia, great, thorough, well thought out explanation. Hope some who didn't get it will finally get it. By the way,. Newsday has a list of billionaires and their support or lack of support of T on line. Bill Gates, incidentally, is one of those committed to giving a % of his income to charitable causes, unlike T. I know Buffet has warned people not to think the sky is falling post T. Hardly call that high praise. Thanks, Leia, for raising the quality of this thread.

Ramzfan
  5/11/2017 16:09 EST

I have a question for all of the anti-Trumpers who originally wanted coney fired, but now that he's been fired, they don't want him fired anymore...(?) Now that President Trump has fired him and everyone says that "he has interfered with the investigation "...HOW..? Comet is now free to testify anyway he wants! He's no longer under any imaginary restraints to limit his testimony. He's free to say anything that he pleases. Go ahead and subpoena him. Ask him what you want. God, sometimes you libbies can't see the forest through the trees...!

giershift43
  5/11/2017 18:51 EST

Acting FBI director Andrew McCabe on Thursday rejected the Trump White House’s characterization of the Russian meddling probe as a low priority and delivered a passionate defense of former director James B. Comey — putting himself squarely at odds with the president while the bureau’s future hangs in the balance.

McCabe, who had been the No. 2 official in the FBI until President Trump fired Comey this week, said that the bureau considered the probe of possible coordination between the Kremlin and the Trump campaign during the 2016 election campaign a “highly significant investigation” and that it would not be derailed because of a change in leadership.

“You cannot stop the men and women of the FBI from doing the right thing, protecting the American people and upholding the Constitution,” McCabe said.

Pedroal
  5/11/2017 18:57 EST

A lot of us need to hit the streets and let the world see this is not the United States of America want them to know, and the winds of change are in the air. Many of the American public bought (voted for) a lemon. I have faith enough will come to see that.

Ramzfan
  5/11/2017 19:10 EST

Like I said, President Trump has not stepped in front of the investigation, by all means, he has freed James Comey up to testify or do whatever to set the record straight. James Comey can do whatever he deems necessary to tell a good story.

MexJuan1
  5/11/2017 20:34 EST

Just be patient. The 50% Stupid, 50% Narcissistic Idiot is doing himself in and THAT is the only thing at which he's doing a good job... Behind the scenes, Career Republican Politicians are getting fed up with the constant threat he poses to their jobs/re-election. And like I've said before, they don't care about their constituents but, they do care about themselves and their cushy, powerful and lucrative jobs. The more the 5 year old lies about "taking the cookie from the Cookie Jar", the more credibility he loses (if that's even possible; -) and the lower his and the Republican Congressmen's approval rates go down, the sooner he'll be gone... Liars and Bullies, sooner or later, get caught. He's, actually, catching himself for everyone due to his incompetence and stupidity.

Ramzfan
  5/11/2017 21:32 EST

I notice no one wants to address the Comey event, now that I've brought it to the attention of everyone who has listened to all of the Libby BS and really wasn't too sure about what really went on. The truth is, President Trump fired the FBI Director yesterday after carefully considering his value over the past 4 months.
Director Comey was let go after numerous Senators (both Democrats & Republicans) had called for his ouster. The Dems, have all jumped on the bandwagon to call for Trumps head, citing the "fact" that Comeys firing will interfere with the investigation into whether or not Trumps campaign was involved with the Russians. The truth of the matter is, there is no harm done with the firing. Comey is still more than available to the public and to Congress. If anything, he is MORE available as he no longer has any distractions or people above him. Please don't let the fear monger among you interrupt your common sense and clear thinking...!

Cozumeldeb
  5/12/2017 09:11 EST

MexJuan1, well said..this guy is killing himself, let it end sooner than later.

MexJuan1
  5/12/2017 09:42 EST

6 - 9 months and he'll be chased. The more he talks, tweets and lies and drives down the Approval Rating of himself and fellow Republican Congressmen, the sooner it will happen. It's Politically inevitable and, mostly, of his own doing. Poor character, too stupid and narcissistic to listen to anyone with a brain or any common sense. The "Little Boy" president who thinks that the law doesn't apply to him. I sure hope that America learns a lesson from this aberration! I doubt it. The ppl are stupid too and have a very short memory span. ;-(

Ramzfan
  5/12/2017 10:26 EST

People who are always calling other people ""stupid" are generally very insecure...! It's a known fact.

Pedroal
  5/12/2017 13:16 EST

Not always caliing other people stupid, mostly just you. Sometimes stupid is really just stupid,..Prof. Freud. If you are determined to try to change the title of this thread to "Ramzfan. Always Right, His Praiseworthy Life and Times" Actually, start a new thread with that title. All the "Trumpies"/will follow you ,( all three). So will I! Kind of like Colbert's old show on Comedy Central.

DeniseLR
  5/12/2017 14:03 EST

In response to comments, I have tried to focus this thread on Mexican issues, which of course relate to the lives of expats living there. The turbulent revolutionary times, the economic and political corruption, the mistreatment of indigenous people, the war with the US and the confiscation of Mexican territory, the effects of NAFTA, the Cartels, etc. etc. And the latest madness from Washington. It is important and interests me greatly. Not so much most others. It is threatening to some, like finding their Chicago condo is next to a ghetto. Others I suspect, and I don't blame them, most likely reluctant to say anything critical of the Mexican government while down there. Then there is the 'You don't live there!" argument. Though I have and make am attempt to discuss issues, even (,especially) uncomfortable ones. Not much luck. Then there is the huge glowing rear end floating up there in the sky (Trump, not you Ramzfan) which is what everyone wants to talk about. So have at it! Hopefully he won't last his 4 year term.

Ramzfan
  5/14/2017 13:55 EST

I was just reading an interesting article in the Daily Caller about the problems that immigrants are bringing/causing in Mexico City & Tapachula. Victorino Alvarez Fuentes, the head of a group called "For a Better Mexico", said that immigrants from Africa & Asia were bringing crime, desease & untold problems to Mexico. He told of an immigrant a couple of weeks ago who was arrested for sexually assaulting a five-year-old boy in broad daylight. He says many of the people who live there are afraid to leave their houses due to the crimes that these immigrants are committing.
This is what happens when a country just opens it's borders to everyone, without proper vetting. I know a lot of you think that I'm just a "hard-line Trumper", and that's mostly true, but there's a reason for being "hard-line", and that reason has to do with following LAWS which are already in place. Think about it....

DeniseLR
  5/14/2017 14:53 EST

Probably would have agreed if you'd just left out the last 2 sentences. How things are done is important, and how people are treated is important. Don't go for the iron fist, bungling Trumpian overkill approach. Costa Rica has a big problem with Nicaraguan immigrants. Ill bet a lot of folks are trying to get out of Venezuela right now.Too many people on this planet. Do you recall from California history how, during the Dust Bowl, people, including some of my ancestors, fleeing Oklahoma were met at the California border by Los Angeles police attempting to prevented them from entering? And these were US citizens. This country is big on mixed messages and extremes,depending on the party in power. Cant wait to see whats coming post Trump. Big swing the other way, creating a new set of problems? Anyway, that's all I have to say on the topic. Trying to think like a policy person, objectively.

MexJuan1
  5/14/2017 15:15 EST

Not to mention the "following the laws" part which trump cannot seem to do...

DeniseLR
  5/15/2017 12:33 EST

BF reading Barstool sports today about a man arrested for going off on a Muslim family (with children), grabbing crotch, invoking AO, finally arrested. Sad that the people I find myself frequently really wanting to deport are US citizens.

Ramzfan
  5/15/2017 20:42 EST

I got my Tundra pickup out of the body shop today ($3800.00 later) just wanted to mention again, what a nice, tolerant party that the liberals have.

giershift43
  5/18/2017 10:29 EST

you mean like calling people libtards??

Ramzfan
  5/18/2017 11:02 EST

I hope that " libtard" post wasn't directed at me Gier....I have never used that term.

MexJuan1
  5/18/2017 12:27 EST

No AHCA. No Tax "Reform" meaning tax breaks for the RICH and WEALTHY. No Infrastructure. "Trump Bump" turning to "Trump Dump"! It's all over but the crying. Of which, knowing Trump Supporters, there'll be plenty... Wah Wah...

DeniseLR
  5/18/2017 12:47 EST

Happy to see this thread just keeps going, despite the lack of content of some of the posts, including mine. If that Tundra mugging we keep hearing about had happened in Albuquerque because of AO stickers it would have made the news. I may joke about it but if true was a jerk move. Just like all the viciousness directed at immigrants, religious and racial minorities.

MexJuan1
  5/18/2017 12:54 EST

Tundra mugging? I didn't even hear about that one! Will have to investigate... Thanks

Ramzfan
  5/18/2017 13:31 EST

I have plenty of photos, body shop estimates & invoices. I have posted them on Facebook but this site has no way of posting photos. Doesn't matter, it's my problem & I've dealt with it. It's a shame though, that people have to resort to violence to try and make a point. Typical of what we see nowadays in Berkeley, etc.

DeniseLR
  5/18/2017 16:07 EST

No police report? (A public record).

Ramzfan
  5/18/2017 16:25 EST

Police report? For what? In our town, when a hit & run occurs, you have to drive down to the police station & file a report. They no longer come out and assess what happened. A complete waste of time to file a report. Almost as bad as it is in Mexico.

DeniseLR
  5/18/2017 16:37 EST

BF just showed me article in Barstool Sports (I'm sure better than irresponsible Washington Post) that reports that AO aides make sure to put his name at least once in every paragraph of memos sent to him to make sure he reads them.

DeniseLR
  5/18/2017 16:37 EST

BF just showed me article in Barstool Sports (I'm sure better than irresponsible Washington Post) that reports that AO aides make sure to put his name at least once in every paragraph of memos sent to him to make sure he reads them.

MexJuan1
  5/18/2017 16:51 EST

Or the White House. Where you catch a person doing something illegal or in a. obvious to anyone with any type of Moral Compass, lie, and they just deflect, deny and hide behind a Coms Corp for whom I, almost, feel a sense of empathy. More like pity, I suppose. Were it not for the fact that they've chosen to be lackeys for a lying, incompetent narcissist, I'd have some sympathy for them. Yes, you mean like all of that unnecessary unprofessionalism. I understand. Poor work performance seems like a disease...

DeniseLR
  5/18/2017 17:42 EST

Funny (peculiar) how some people pick a 'hero', or attach themselves to some person or group, and then refuse to admit any wrongdoing by this entity, no matter how obvious. Moral or intellectual cowardice, IMO. Not
perfect myself, for sure, but just don't get it.

Ramzfan
  5/18/2017 17:53 EST

You mean just like you did with Obama & Hillary., Denise...?

giershift43
  5/18/2017 18:34 EST

MexJuan, you are correct. Now it is called a criminal investigation...

MexJuan1
  5/18/2017 18:35 EST

That obfuscation is possible, you hit the bullet points, pretty much, by a lack of ethics, morals and intellect in developing an "attachment" and attraction to a demagogue. The lack of those three, vital, quality characteristics in someone allows them to subjectify their feelings and opinions based on a "Hero Figure", right or wrong and, like that figure, allows them an enormous range of Plausible Deniability that takes no facts, morals or ethics into account. Those ideals just don't matter. Very much like any Defense Atty. We've all seen them in action, haven't we? It can be horrifying, right? They chaff at the fabric of any "normal thinking" person who has the ability to be objective to taking in facts, discerning their veracity based on credibility and developing a moral, ethical and intellectual thought process. It's, pretty much, simple in definition but, highly unbelievable in practice and expression. Self preservation becomes paramount to individuals who immerse themselves in this manner who require success (Defense Atty) and those who find themselves in the "inner circle" of the Worshipped Idealogue or become a citizen of Fascism, Communism or a Dictatorship. In short, it's a complete and total SELLOUT of one's SOUL with eventual, dire consequences.

MexJuan1
  5/18/2017 18:37 EST

Well, duh...

giershift43
  5/18/2017 19:02 EST

No drama with Obama!!!

Ramzfan
  5/18/2017 19:14 EST

"No Drama with Obama?" Please, Gier...did you forget his locked up college records? His birth certificate? Fast & Furious? Benghazi? Etc, etc, etc. hahahahaha, now that's funny! The trouble with this administration is the Democrats and their obstructionism!

giershift43
  5/18/2017 20:11 EST

You locos made up the lie about his birth certificate. Can't blame him. Oh you blame him for anything and everything. Now we have traitor Trump in the Whitehouse!!

giershift43
  5/18/2017 20:15 EST

Trump turns on Flynn. Flynn turns on Trump and Pence. I have a lawn chair and some pop corn!

DeniseLR
  5/18/2017 20:26 EST

Funny how people respond to general statements. Assume its directed at them, because they realize it applies to them. They'd rather be wrong than admit it, and play childish little games because that's what they do best. Go ahead, AH, you've got the last word.

Ramzfan
  5/18/2017 23:02 EST

All I know is, no matter who turns on who and no matter what you libs try to do to obstruct him, MY MAN is still the man in the White House and will be for the next 7 years, 7 months...!!!

Cozumeldeb
  5/18/2017 23:22 EST

Ramzfan, based on your personality/comments sure their are many that would think u deserve whatever..but no reason or excuse to destroy property..

Cozumeldeb
  5/18/2017 23:27 EST

Ramzfan, what backwater state do you live, let me guess, federal red welfare state..Never heard of police not coming to crime/accident site. Taking another slap at Mexico, "almost as bad as in Mexico." Mexico does not need residents like you.

Cozumeldeb
  5/18/2017 23:32 EST

Ramzfan, you referring to Hillary + President Obama, the most admired in the world. Twitler's #'s are dropping daily, special counsel, Mueller, leaked tapes, daily lies from Rethugs...The far right is circling the drain.

MexJuan1
  5/19/2017 00:10 EST

"YOUR MAN" in the WH will be gone by January to June '18 at the latest. More than likely sooner As he won't listen to Counsel, can't keep his stupid mouth such, constantly implicating himself because he's still acting like he's the Bully and Intimidator he was on the business "playground" and he's jeopardizing Congressional Republicans careers and reputations. He will NOT listen to anyone and will NOT shut his self incriminating mouth. In Politics, there are Checks and Balances, unlike in business. His unsavory business practices will not be tolerated much more by Congress, the FBI et al and they will shew the criminal from their midst. His 35-39% of entrenched, dilusional supporters are, simply, inconsequential. He's all but out and several of his "crew" of treasonous criminals, including and especially Flynn, will be serving time. Manafort and Page are a certainty. Sessions possibly and there will be other collateral damage. As far as the vandalism that occurred, I'm sure that a lackey like you is in for more and I believe it to be, well deserved. You know, Karma. You're putting bad out and it will return in kind. I, personally, have no sympathy for you. You're an exhibited miscreant.

giershift43
  5/19/2017 07:23 EST

Deb, you are correct. They are still trying to change the subject from A.O.'s incompetence and lack of integrity to oh look at someone else.

giershift43
  5/19/2017 07:25 EST

RAmz, Your man is a traitor. But enjoy!

giershift43
  5/19/2017 07:28 EST

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—House Speaker Paul Ryan has set a Google News alert to notify him of the instant that Donald Trump becomes unpopular enough to turn against, Ryan revealed on Thursday.

The news alert, which Ryan said was set to the phrase “Trump approval rating falls below fifty per cent among Republican voters,” will inform the House Speaker of the precise moment “that I can bail on President Trump at no political cost to me,” Ryan explained.

MexJuan1
  5/19/2017 08:06 EST

The incompetence issue isn't even an issue anymore. This has, finally, ended up where it should have been all along. This bully has been a criminal businessman his entire life and the "experimental, entry level presidency" has only highlighted that fact. Being "President" reveals and (even) exaggerates the qualities and characteristics, good or bad, pure or evil, of the person in the office. I understand as, I'm sure does, everyone who has a relevant observation of the Govt. in the U.S., why this has happened. The experiment has not worked! In theory, it might have had they got the "right" person. Donald Trump is the, 100%, wrong person, obviously and without any doubt. And I'd like to point out that, even, a man like Al Capone had his supporters, ppl who admired him, however misguided. This will, now, end, as it should, with the actual criminals being, at the very least, totally, disgraced, fined heavily and/or imprisoned. Donald Trump, in the next year to year and a half will resign or be given his walking papers and go back to being the Kardashian like character that he is, nothing more. Say what you will about America and the U.S. Govt but, it is too powerful and entrenched to allow an "outlier" criminal billionaire to mete out it's destruction...

lindaceleste
  5/19/2017 08:52 EST

Giershift43-Satire and sarcasm must be identified as such lest they be taken seriously by some people.

lindaceleste
  5/19/2017 08:52 EST

Giershift43-Satire and sarcasm must be identified as such lest they be taken seriously by some people.

giershift43
  5/19/2017 09:12 EST

Who is sarcastic??

Ramzfan
  5/19/2017 09:52 EST

Deb, I live in Reno, Nevada. Not a "backwater welfare state" as you put it. They have been responding like that for at least 10 years. Sorry you hadn't heard about it. As far as how Mexico does it, they respond, but then it's dropped and you never hear from them again. Personal experience. Believe what you like. Live in your dream world. The truth is, nobody takes care of you, you take care of yourself...!

giershift43
  5/19/2017 10:03 EST

And you like it, so stay there and off this site!! Your hero looks more like a traitor everyday!!

Ramzfan
  5/19/2017 10:43 EST

My "hero", as you libbies like to put it, swore that he was going to "drain the swamp". That's what he's doing. It won't be easy, as the swamp is full of entrenched animals and creatures who are too ugly to even show your grandchildren. (Well,MY grandchildren anyway) ( Maxine Waters, for instance) He is doing exactly what we elected him to do. The people like John McCain & Lindsay Graham will soon be footnotes to his presidency. Nobody said this would be an easy task...politics doesn't like change! An example is how hard the Dems are working to throw up smoke screens like the Russian hacking. The problem is, Donald Trump is a BIG BOY...he can take care of himself! He has dealt with bigger problems than these in his life. He thrives on the challenge! I notice that Juan the gardener has even changed his tune a little. A month ago, he was touting the thought that Mr. Trump would be impeached by the end of May. Now he's moved that date to the middle of next year. Hang in there my liberal friends...only 7 years and 7 months to go!

Ramzfan
  5/19/2017 10:54 EST

Has anyone ever noticed how vindictive liberals can be? I get on here and simply post facts and opinions... I never get personal or call names. The strongest term I've ever used is to call someone a libbie, which is simply a description of what side they're on. But when I look back on how they respond, it's with nastiness and name calling. I've been told to get off of this site numerous times. Trouble is, I have as much right to this site as anyone. I enjoy reading the BS. I'm like Donald Trump...I'm a big boy!

MexJuan1
  5/19/2017 11:14 EST

First of all, the appointment of Special Counsel as anyone with an adult brain knows, extends the matter. Were you to, actually, think and not just react and follow (a true Sheeple) you'd know that. The distinct possibly, still, exist that YOUR MAN with his big mouth, tweets, narcissism and disdain for the Rule of Law may, in fact, shorten that time significantly. And if criminal issues arise, which I, profoundly as do others, expect them to, he'll "cut and run" to avoid prosecution. True mark of a Dictator and coward. He has NEVER faced ANYTHING, remotely, similar to this from which he can't bully and bluster his way clear. In this "arena", these ppl are much more powerful than he. Not to mention the 60-65% of the electorate behind them threatening the careers of, mostly, House Reps and some Senators. You're, so, blinded by the "shiny object" that you (and he) can't read the writing on the wall. As for L. Graham, with Pence's credibility declining and culpability on the rise, L. Graham, possibly, could end up in the WH. So his becoming a "foot note" would be to assume office from the most corrupt, criminal, incompetent and disgraced POTUS in history. I'll give you this. This IS a concerted and results oriented operation to rid the U. S. Govt of an "undesirable". But, complete, with justification. Might as well resign yourself to that fact.

Ramzfan
  5/19/2017 11:40 EST

Congratulations Juan, you wrote an entire post without any name-calling. First time! ( I consider "Sheepie" to be the same as "libbie".)

Ramzfan
  5/19/2017 11:40 EST

Congratulations Juan, you wrote an entire post without any name-calling. First time! ( I consider "Sheepie" to be the same as "libbie".)

DeniseLR
  5/19/2017 14:32 EST

Re: New US immigration policy, 100/days in. Currently almost 600,000 immigration case backlog, up almost 40% since AO took over. He requested $$ to hire about 70 more judges while estimates of number actually needed closer to 200 more, if I remember correctly. And cases can take years to adjudicate. Very little substantive change, IMO, except to make low priority cases high priority as well. Devil once again in the details. Poorly thought out political stance. Now onward to 'renegotiating' NAFTA. Originally promised to pull US out, no? And 'Ferrell on the Bench' CBS late night radio sports commentator, according to BF, referred to Sean Spicer as "biggest tool ever". I can think of at least one bigger one.

Ramzfan
  5/19/2017 18:21 EST

Immigration "up almost 600,000 since President Trump took over." That's a GOOD THING, isn't it? And who in the hell is "Ferrell on the Bench?" (Late night sports personality) hahahahaha! Doesn't even deserve a response.
I always wondered where you people got your political stances...!

DeniseLR
  5/19/2017 19:01 EST

Then please don't respond AH. Correction, at least 2 more bigger tools. Yourself included. No more time for you, "sweetie". Take your stalking elsewhere.

DeniseLR
  5/19/2017 19:02 EST

Then please don't respond AH. Correction, at least 2 more bigger tools. Yourself included. No more time for you, "sweetie". Take your stalking elsewhere. As usual you miss the point.

DeniseLR
  5/19/2017 19:02 EST

Then please don't respond AH. Correction, at least 2 more bigger tools. Yourself included. No more time for you, "sweetie". Take your stalking elsewhere. As usual you miss the point.

DeniseLR
  5/19/2017 19:02 EST

Then please don't respond AH. Correction, at least 2 more bigger tools. Yourself included. No more time for you, "sweetie". Take your stalking elsewhere. As usual you miss the point.

giershift43
  5/19/2017 19:19 EST

Your comments are not relevant to the site.

Cozumeldeb
  5/19/2017 20:00 EST

Ramzfan, you get more delusional daily, just like Trump is doing daily..Ignore the calls for his resignation, Flynn, Manafort, Putin, Russia and the world leaders who refuse to meet with him during this trip...God know what else he will say to embarrass America. We are a banana republic with a imposter as a President..

giershift43
  5/19/2017 21:13 EST

cozumeldeb, agreed

worxs
  5/19/2017 22:35 EST

Wow you libtards are on a rant today!!
Gear shift, Pampered Deb, low IQ Juan and Potty Mouth Denise. 50% in Mexico and those are only in 50% of the time. Except for landscaper juan-

Hillary for prison! Trump 8 more years!

LOL

Ramzfan
  5/19/2017 23:25 EST

Right on Worxs!

Ramzfan
  5/19/2017 23:43 EST

Aw geez Denise, if I didn't reply, who else would listen to your filthy name calling? I seem to bring out the worst in you. Or maybe that's the best you have in you...?
And Gier, I have as much right to be on this thread as you do...maybe more, because I've been a businessman and I know something about what it takes to be a leader. Have you ever hired an employee and paid them out of your own pocket? No, you're kind of like Obama...never held a real job and always on the public dole.
Oh, and I haven't forgotten dear little Deb. She always chimes in but sometimes her bell's a little dingie. She knows who she likes though, because she watches CNN & MSNBC every day. Sometimes she even tunes in to the 2:00 am sports report for political updates.

DeniseLR
  5/20/2017 15:07 EST

So now our head case Prez is calling James Comey, the dismissed FBI Director who arguably handed AO the election, a nut job. And this to the Russians! Sounds like projection to me. What a cluster f--k.

DeniseLR
  5/20/2017 17:49 EST

Reading the editorial page of the conservative Albuquerque Journal. Two columns, one by Amy Goodman (PBS) and Denis Moynihan (you can tell he must be a liberal with only one 'n' in his name), the other by Charles Krauthammer, both deeply critical of AO. And the editorial itself discusses and approves the appointment of special prosecutor Mueller, while the cartoon is a picture of N. Korean dictator about to fire a middle labeled " Clonozepam, to trump with love'. Pedro wanted to mention that Scott Ferrell is a better reporter than anyone at Fox and Spicer is a tool and sent a couple of posts asserting that fact and other related topics that seemed to get those posts banned from this thread. He likes Megan Kelly.

DeniseLR
  5/20/2017 17:52 EST

ICorrection: I wrote ' missile' but *!!%# phone wrote ' middle,'.

Ramzfan
  5/20/2017 18:41 EST

Ah yes Denise, why don't you quote an article from an unknown liberal that works for PBS (a publicly supported liberal network) and a queer guy that's a known socialist? Oh, and of course, throw in Charles Krautheimer, the middle of the road columnist who can hardly breathe anymore. All I can say is "we'll see"...wait for the outcome. It does no good to speculate.
As far as Pedro goes, same answer. He hasn't shown me much with any of his opinions. Especially if he likes Meghan Kelly...

DeniseLR
  5/20/2017 18:45 EST

Wonder about these stalker/haters that just have to post something that no one reads hoping to muddy and dumb down the discourse.

giershift43
  5/20/2017 21:10 EST

Oh yes Ramzfan, oh yes Gier, oh yes condescending whatever

giershift43
  5/20/2017 21:10 EST

Oh yes Ramzfan, why don't you quote Fox News or Brietbart!

Ramzfan
  5/20/2017 21:42 EST

I don't NEED to quote anyone Gier...I'm comfortable with my own knowledge & beliefs. I probably read 50 fake news headlines every day. I only open three or four if they don't look like they just came off of a Supermarket tabloid.
( that would be Supermercado to you GENUINE Mexico residents ) Hell, life is good for me right now. I'm living the good life, playing golf three times a week, enjoying my family and wishing I could travel more. Just keep posting and maybe you guys will actually start believing your own bullsh*t...!

giershift43
  5/21/2017 06:30 EST

You have a good brain!! Just like AO. You don't need to learn anything.

Retiree2
  5/21/2017 09:29 EST

"Ramzfan

5/20/2017 21:42 EST

I don't NEED to quote anyone Gier...I'm comfortable with my own knowledge & beliefs. I probably read 50 fake news headlines every day. I only open three or four if they don't look like they just came off of a Supermarket tabloid.
( that would be Supermercado to you GENUINE Mexico residents ) Hell, life is good for me right now. I'm living the good life, playing golf three times a week, enjoying my family and wishing I could travel more. Just keep posting and maybe you guys will actually start believing your own bullsh*t...! "

You act like a shill for liberals to keep the good information coming about the Executive Branch of the present administration.

DeniseLR
  5/21/2017 11:52 EST

I just forget sometimes there are people that can't be reasoned with. Like the folks who say the world is ending in a week. But aren't wrong when it doesn't happened, just need to 'fine tune' calculations. And when you intentionally say something really dumb they take you seriously and those are the things that really get them going. (Bill O'Reilly is a cross dresser.)

DeniseLR
  5/21/2017 11:57 EST

Sorry, apologies to cross dressers. You don't deserve that.

DeniseLR
  5/21/2017 12:16 EST

Some of us would really like to discuss Mexico and policies relared to Mexico. There must be plenty of sites for biased, far right wing imbeciles. God knows there are enough radio shows. But I guess if you are a hater that's what you do. I actually could care less what people like that say, and rarely read the posts, just hard to believe it is possible to be so ignorant, although god knows I shouldn't find it hard to believe. You think they must be messing with you and then you realize they actually believe this s....

Ramzfan
  5/21/2017 12:16 EST

Congratulations Denise...! You actually wrote an entire post without any filthy drivel coming out of your mouth! Nice going! See, it can be done! Maybe it was because this is Sunday and you were respecting the Sabbath...? Nah, liberals don't believe in that stuff, do you....?

DeniseLR
  5/21/2017 12:18 EST

And here comes the stalker. Glad I don't live in your neighborhood. Starting to creep me out.

Ramzfan
  5/21/2017 12:19 EST

Nobody FORCES YOU to post or respond...!

DeniseLR
  5/21/2017 12:19 EST

And here comes the stalker. Glad I don't live in your neighborhood. Starting to creep me out.

DeniseLR
  5/21/2017 12:20 EST

And here comes the stalker. Glad I don't live in your neighborhood. Starting to creep me out.

Pedroal
  5/22/2017 14:30 EST

James Comey wore a blue suit to a meeting at WH because, according to a friend, it would blend with the drapes and hopefully keep AO from noticing him. Maybe said this facetiously as he is very tall. Looking forward to his testimony before Congress.

DeniseLR
  5/22/2017 16:23 EST

Pedro wanted me to relay the message that he has sent half a dozen posts that haven't for some reason been accepted. His favorite site, Barstool sports, cited the NYT which mentioned that James Comey told a friend he wore a blue suit to the WH to a meeting in hopes that the color would help him blend in with the drapes and avoid the attention of AO. Probably facetiously. And AO was awarded some sort of medal by a country that has public beheadings, while Obama was awarded Nobel Peace Prize (probably neither one really earned). And AO signed a deal with a country whose collective feet he had promised to hold to the fire while muddying the trade waters with NAFTS allies Canada and Mexico. And, what a pity, Fox News seems in decline. But Colbert show ratings are up.

DeniseLR
  5/22/2017 16:23 EST

Pedro wanted me to relay the message that he has sent half a dozen posts that haven't for some reason been accepted. His favorite site, Barstool sports, cited the NYT which mentioned that James Comey told a friend he wore a blue suit to the WH to a meeting in hopes that the color would help him blend in with the drapes and avoid the attention of AO. Probably facetiously. And AO was awarded some sort of medal by a country that has public beheadings, while Obama was awarded Nobel Peace Prize (probably neither one really earned). And AO signed a deal with a country whose collective feet he had promised to hold to the fire while muddying the trade waters with NAFTS allies Canada and Mexico. And, what a pity, Fox News seems in decline. But Colbert show ratings are up.

DeniseLR
  5/22/2017 16:29 EST

Sorry, NAFTA! Can't wait for Comey's testimony before Congress. Colbert's take on people fleeing Fox was that, besides the O'Reilly/Ailes fiasco, AO followers can't handle all the negativity about him, even on Fox. Can't say, don't watch it, tho Pedro seems to have a crush on Megan Kelley.

Pedroal
  5/22/2017 17:09 EST

Well,yeah! But I sent in that post 6 hours ago. This one submitted 3:09 pm mountain time.

Cozumeldeb
  5/22/2017 17:12 EST

We saw the thing on Comey and the drapes too..What a mess

Ramzfan
  5/22/2017 22:45 EST

Well lookey here...the poor people of England are now reaping (again) what they have sown. By allowing all of the inverted and unverified aliens into their country, they are now finding out what happens when you live with monsters. Yes, it could happen anywhere and we are likely going to see more in this country, but I feel a hell of a lot safer with Donald Trump watching over who gets in and who stays out. Now, if we could just get rid of some of these liberal judges...!

Ramzfan
  5/22/2017 22:54 EST

Who cares what James Comey has to say...? I mean really, do you think he's going to add anything of real value as to why he got fired? Two months ago, the libs were screaming for his head on a platter. Now, they want to protect the poor baby....you people play more "Mental Masterbation" then a bunch of teenagers in a circle jerk! The world is passing you by while you all join hands and sing "we will overcome."
Come to the party people...it's time to unite...!

kikipt
  5/23/2017 09:06 EST

"Time to unite" for what? To divide the world's population into warring classes and races? That seems to be your ultimate goal. It is not reasonable to think that we can return to a medieval world view where everyone fears everyone else and lives behind walls to get the advantage over neighboring groups. You've been watching too many sci-fi movies! This is a different world, a cyber-connected world, and things have changed. As for Comey, what he has to say is VERY significant, if for no other reason than the fact that he was head of the agency and privy to far more information than you! Whether one believes he should or should not have been fired is immaterial. The security and integrity of the US is involved. Perhaps you don't care about such things as long as you can find another group to "blame" for all the ills you see in the world, and devise more crude similes to help you appear more "with it".

Pedroal
  5/23/2017 11:41 EST

Wow!

DeniseLR
  5/23/2017 12:00 EST

Great post, kikipt. Glad to see the thread isn't dead, despite attempts to kill it.

DeniseLR
  5/23/2017 12:17 EST

So Flynn invoking 5th amendment rights in response to Senate subpoena. Beginning to resemble Nixon White House. And preliminary AO budget cuts over 10 years $627 billion.from Medicaid, $56 billion Medicare (should endear him to seniors who voted for him), ,$3.6 trillion total cuts. Making America great again through Social Darwinism?

DeniseLR
  5/23/2017 12:17 EST

So Flynn invoking 5th amendment rights in response to Senate subpoena. Beginning to resemble Nixon White House. And preliminary AO budget cuts over 10 years $627 billion.from Medicaid, $56 billion Medicare (should endear him to seniors who voted for him), ,$3.6 trillion total cuts. Making America great again through Social Darwinism?

Cozumeldeb
  5/23/2017 12:19 EST

Washington Post's article on Twitler's 2018 budget..rich get richer, poor/lower middle class who voted for this twit, are slaughtered. Drain the Swamp apparently has 2 meanings: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/05/23/how-trumps-budget-helps-the-rich-at-the-expense-of-the-poor/?utm_term=.ae965dac4f9a&wpisrc=al_alert-COMBO-politics%252Bnation&wpmk=1

DeniseLR
  5/23/2017 12:37 EST

I just realized the reason only a few may contribute to this thread is because, at least for me, with so many posts (1700) it takes a long time to load compared to other threads. Only goes fast if there is automatic notification for you when there is a new post and you can contribute that way.

Pedroal
  5/23/2017 12:54 EST

Let us not forget the intelligence community pretty much unanimously agreed that the Russians made attempts to effect our Presidential election. And it appears that AO asked Comey to drop a related investigation. Very interested to find out what Comey has to say. Was AO collaborating with the Russians. Seems unlikely, but also seemed unlikely to authorize a burglary of DNC headquarters (Watergate). Or that Reagan's people attempted to delay the release of US hostages in Iran until after the election to discredit Carter. Or the arms sales brokered by Oliver North, etc. etc.

Ramzfan
  5/23/2017 13:21 EST

Hahahahaha...doom & gloom...! The sky is falling, the sky is falling! Never mind the fact that you're only reading & listening to the liberal "market tabloid" news sites. Give the guy a chance...that's why he was elected. You know, people used to tell the Wright Bros. that they were crazy too...!

giershift43
  5/23/2017 15:23 EST

I'm just tired of Ramz

DeniseLR
  5/23/2017 15:48 EST

It is amazing all the garbage floating to the surface once Trump opened the door to vile behavior at his rallies and in his debate performances.

Ramzfan
  5/23/2017 16:14 EST

Geez Gier, I'm not tired of you guys...of course, I enjoy diverse opinions! Maybe I need to learn to stick my head in the sand. (Or somewhere)

DeniseLR
  5/23/2017 17:02 EST

37% approval as of latest Gallup poll. Are the rats starting to desert the sinking orange yacht?

Iturbide
  5/23/2017 17:10 EST

re (or somewhere)... where the light don't shine ?

Iturbide
  5/23/2017 17:10 EST

re (or somewhere)... where the light don't shine ?

Iturbide
  5/23/2017 17:10 EST

re (or somewhere)... where the light don't shine ?

Ramzfan
  5/23/2017 17:26 EST

Not a chance Denise...not a chance.

Ramzfan
  5/23/2017 17:29 EST

Lturbide...you only have to push the post button once...duh!

nelsonokelmgmailcom
  5/23/2017 18:09 EST

giershift43 any reasonably intelligent person is tired of Ramz. He is a troll. He delights in being obnoxious and he is good at it. He adds nothing of value to this forum. Apparently the only delight in his sad worthless life is engaging in urinating contests with those with nothing better to do.

I am deeply saddened that the moderator of this forum has not removed his privileges for misuse of the venue. What could be a valuable aid to those seeking information on other countries. The forum is a lesser place because of this neglect!!

nelsonokelmgmailcom
  5/23/2017 18:12 EST

giershift43 any reasonably intelligent person is tired of Ramz. He is a troll. He delights in being obnoxious and he is good at it. He adds nothing of value to this forum. Apparently the only delight in his sad worthless life is engaging in urinating contests with those with nothing better to do.

I am deeply saddened that the moderator of this forum has not removed his privileges for misuse of the venue. What could be a valuable aid to those seeking information on other countries on this forum has been tainted. The forum is a lesser place because of this neglect!!

nelsonokelmgmailcom
  5/23/2017 18:12 EST

giershift43 any reasonably intelligent person is tired of Ramz. He is a troll. He delights in being obnoxious and he is good at it. He adds nothing of value to this forum. Apparently the only delight in his sad worthless life is engaging in urinating contests with those with nothing better to do.

I am deeply saddened that the moderator of this forum has not removed his privileges for misuse of the venue. What could be a valuable aid to those seeking information on other countries on this forum has been tainted. The forum is a lesser place because of this neglect!!

DeniseLR
  5/23/2017 18:33 EST

So let's talk policy and ignore the absurd distractions. It looks from my point of view a lot is on hold, waiting to see if the Wall is built, what if anything goes on to change NAFTA, how bad and how much crazier the immigration/deportation push is going to go. A lot of the political and rconepmic effects on expats are bound to be gradual, slow to develop and difficult to predict. We can look at what is happening right now and become prisoners of the moment, or try to see further down the road, which is difficult. Who foresaw a year and a half ago that someone like Trump had any chance of becoming...... I can't even say it. One possible metric might be change in crimes committed in Mexico against expats and tourists. Hey, I'm at least giving it a shot.

MexJuan1
  5/23/2017 18:44 EST

As soon as Robert Mueller subpoenas the criminals financial records, he'll turn and run. At that point, he (the criminal) will be subject, not only, to the crimes he's committed in the last year and a half but to ALL of his criminal enterprise activities. he won't go down that way. Mueller can do it and he will. trump will run like the low level coward and person that he is because, if he stays to attempt to weather that storm, his business endeavours will be in jeopardy also. He's where he is for one reason and one reason only. To get richer. That, he's, more than likely, already accomplished so, there's no need for him to endanger his future business efforts. The, ultimate, way to bring him down is his financials!

giershift43
  5/23/2017 18:59 EST

The issue is then who will be the next to become President. I do not see any of them as having an interest in helping anyone but themselves. I do not know how it will play out.

DeniseLR
  5/23/2017 19:08 EST

I agree. Assuming AO goes, wonder what the probability of that is? Then we get Pence. Saner, more civilized. But policies still not in best interests of middle class/poor. And more adept perhaps at getting things done and furthering policies that Ryan/McConnell favor. Although I expect the Wall would go away and immigration policies might become more moderate. Love to see Trump slink away in disgrace, but obviously won't solve every problem and will create new ones.

worxs
  5/23/2017 19:14 EST

Typical liberal response. Let's remove Ramz' response and his/her right to free speech, and spew insults at him because you don't agree with it. Fascism anyone?

worxs
  5/23/2017 19:18 EST

Vile behavior? I don't know what your definition of vile is, but Webster defines it as; extremely unpleasant.
synonyms: foul, nasty, unpleasant, bad, disagreeable, horrid, horrible, dreadful, abominable, atrocious, offensive, obnoxious, odious, unsavory, repulsive, disgusting, distasteful, loathsome, hateful, nauseating, sickening;

I was in DC for the inauguration,and witnessed many women at their march that weekend wearing graphic vagina hats in the presence of numerous very young children. Madonna's speech was extremely vile, both in foul language and sexual references. The same could be said about the other speakers. An actor declared, "My moral compass is in my vagina." What the hell is up with that? I am a female, and that type of behavior does not represent who I am or my mores. If you are going to judge males by their words and behavior, then the same rules should apply to women. Equal rights.

MexJuan1
  5/23/2017 19:26 EST

Lyndsey Graham. Pence will go down too a Ryan isn't interested. Graham is, actually, a decent person.

Iturbide
  5/23/2017 20:31 EST

I like Lindsay Graham; recall during the campaign he says of Trump and Cruz; a choice of being shot or drinking poison... So true; Viva Lindsito !!

Cozumeldeb
  5/23/2017 20:34 EST

Who are u? And why are u here? Fake poster and fake ex-pat..Your hero is tanking our country, his budget today bitch slapped his base..Drain the Swamp..hardly.

giershift43
  5/23/2017 20:52 EST

The only reason he won't be impeached are because congress doesn't care if he is a criminal as long as they can gut programs for working people and give more to the super rich.

Ramzfan
  5/23/2017 21:54 EST

Hey Nelson, if you're so "reasonably intelligent", why haven't you figured out that you only have to hit the "Post Reply" button ONCE...?

DeniseLR
  5/23/2017 22:15 EST

What is so intrinsically vile about a vagina? Says more about you, perhaps. Prefer that (and breasts) to all the violence in the media. Or pictures of aborted fetuses in front of Planned Parenthood clinics. Why don't you start your own thread? Tired of the bull s...
bogarting. Sorry Nelson, trying to at least urinate on the appropriate parties. Sometimes politics gets dirty, and really, really stupid. Maybe if we'd fought harder initially this. t.... , this misogynist, this fraud, this sociopath wouldn't be the most powerful person on the planet.

DeniseLR
  5/24/2017 10:49 EST

Our Republican governor, Suzanna Martinez, facing a state budget crisis, is advocating lowering overall taxes on goods and services but implementing a tax on food and pharmaceuticals, currently untaxed per the previous governor, Bill Richardson. Way to hit the poor and seniors on fixed income in one of the nation's poorest states.

Ramzfan
  5/24/2017 10:54 EST

Move to California...they have a liberal governor...!

DeniseLR
  5/24/2017 11:02 EST

Just as a general observation, it is interesting to me how little some people understand about policy, or nuances, but are very good a throwing out labels and making glib, meaningless statements invoking those labels. Never anything substantive, just like AOs tweets. Embarassing and sad.

nelsonokelmgmailcom
  5/24/2017 11:19 EST

DeniseLR
YUP!! Sad but true!

DeniseLR
  5/24/2017 12:36 EST

Great minds agree, Nelson. Sadly.

Ramzfan
  5/24/2017 20:53 EST

OK, here's my daily addition to this site: I love hoe certain people always have something negative to say about the"other side" but never once stop and say "hey, WE ARE THE OTHER SIDE!" Does it ever occur to any of you that MILLIONS OF PEOPLE voted for Donald Trump! Why do you suppose that was...? Really...? It's not that the world has gone crazy...it's not that suddenly we've all decided to go berserk...no, the truth is, millions of people are fed up with the liberal views on how the world should be run and we want a more substantial return on our money and our lives. If you would just stop with the hatred and the revenge lingo, you might find out that we're all alike...just people trying to live and let live. People hoping to make a difference in each other's lives. Think about it...!

DeniseLR
  5/24/2017 21:19 EST

I am going to give this one last shot. You have no idea exactly why millions voted for Trump. You just know why you did, and I believe you are gullible. He has so far lied about what he would do if elected numerous times, and has a history of bad behavior (does Trump U ring a bell,?) I believe Hillary would have been elected if not weakened by the repeated hammering by Republicans for years. Comey and the server problems ultimately did her in. And perhaps Russian interference. I'm not a big fan of HRC but would take her over AO any day. Remember the continued reaction to Obama by the right once he was elected. The same thing will happen to AO, in spades. Because, unlike Bush and Reagan, people, including me, hate his guts. And for good reason. You should too. His behavior has been erratic, Inconsistent. Many Republicans feel much the same, and would be relieved if he were gone. He only represents himself. You should do great if rich. A Tundra doesn't send me that signal. Scrutinize any government assistance you may get, from S.S. to Medicare to the VA, and worry about what would happen if AOs budget is passed. Now why don't you move on if you don't want to address the topic of the thread (Mexico?). Respectfully, DLR

DeniseLR
  5/24/2017 21:19 EST

I am going to give this one last shot. You have no idea exactly why millions voted for Trump. You just know why you did, and I believe you are gullible. He has so far lied about what he would do if elected numerous times, and has a history of bad behavior (does Trump U ring a bell,?) I believe Hillary would have been elected if not weakened by the repeated hammering by Republicans for years. Comey and the server problems ultimately did her in. And perhaps Russian interference. I'm not a big fan of HRC but would take her over AO any day. Remember the continued reaction to Obama by the right once he was elected. The same thing will happen to AO, in spades. Because, unlike Bush and Reagan, people, including me, hate his guts. And for good reason. You should too. His behavior has been erratic, Inconsistent. Many Republicans feel much the same, and would be relieved if he were gone. He only represents himself. You should do great if rich. A Tundra doesn't send me that signal. Scrutinize any government assistance you may get, from S.S. to Medicare to the VA, and worry about what would happen if AOs budget is passed. Now why don't you move on if you don't want to address the topic of the thread (Mexico?). Respectfully, DLR

MexJuan1
  5/24/2017 21:40 EST

Excellent retort Denise but, it makes way too much sense, is too real and full of way too many, actual, facts for that delusional, miscreant to, even, begin to comprehend. Trump will be gone in short order and quicker if they subpoena his financial records or he doesn't keep his mouth shut, which we all know he can not do. Boasting about the location of Nuclear Subs for instance. Politicians, for the most part, at that level, are corrupt. We all know this. Trump is corrupt beyond comprehension and an out and out criminal. He'll run to preserve himself from criminal prosecution when they delve into his financial, criminal and corrupt dealings and associates. It's just a matter of time now. "waiting is the hardest part" Not to mention the damage he may do in the interim!

DeniseLR
  5/24/2017 21:52 EST

Hope you're right. We will see.

giershift43
  5/24/2017 22:01 EST

Truly class warfare.

MexJuan1
  5/24/2017 22:16 EST

I believe it's inevitable. He never thought he would win but, after he got over that mild shock, it's obvious that he decided to use it to his advantage (big surprise, I know) to get himself and his family as rich as they, possibly, could from the unspeakable opportunity. He's abused the American Taxpayer to the max, abused and insulted every legitimate person and entity possible and abused the power of the office in which he had no business having. His "brand" was faltering (yes, I know he's a billionaire but, even in that community, he's a crass outlier who not many ppl like) so, this turned out to be the bump he and his, equally, disdainful family needed. BTW, Mr. Kushner will be found out as to what and whom he, really is, also! Their disdain and criminal attitude towards the Emoluments Clause and Conflicts of Interest, pretty much, tells you everything you need to know about both of them. Even he has to know his time is limited but, his narcissism and super, ultra ego will tell himself that he's done nothing wrong and it was a political conspiracy against him. The "writing in his wall" is all in his favor. He's just like a bad, little, spoiled rotten Silver Spoon kid who pushes the envelope as far as he can. But, on steroids!!!

Ramzfan
  5/24/2017 23:53 EST

Typical, so typical...none of you pay any attention to what I said....your responses are all so full of blind hatred for our president that none of you can see the good that he and this administration are doing. You talk about the lies that he told during his campaign...what lies...? Everything that he promised, he's trying to accomplish. I'm proud to see what he's doing with Social Security & Medicare. I'm especially happy to see what he's doing with healthcare. The rest of the world is beginning to embrace Donald Trump but not the good 'ol libbies in the USA...they are continuing to hold that grudge, you know, the one that keeps telling them that Hillary would have won if....

DeniseLR
  5/25/2017 13:28 EST

Well, ignorance can be cured. Stupid is forever.

Ramzfan
  5/25/2017 13:43 EST

What a coincidence Denise... my feelings exactly...!

MexJuan1
  5/25/2017 13:59 EST

In this case Denise, I, sincerely have my doubts. It's going to be, more than likely, a rude awakening...

Ramzfan
  5/25/2017 16:47 EST

DONALD TRUMP....the man who gave up his Billionaire lifestyle in order to be ridiculed & slandered so that he could SAVE the American people...!

giershift43
  5/25/2017 17:57 EST

RAmz, Lol many of us do not think he gave up any opportunity and just looking to exploit the position. But enjoy.

giershift43
  5/25/2017 17:58 EST

RAmz, Lol many of us do not think he gave up any opportunity and just looking to exploit the position. But enjoy.

MexJuan1
  5/25/2017 18:43 EST

That guy is a definitive idiot! Just like the criminals he worships. I just hope that when he had his "limo" fixed, he left the bumper and window stickers on. One can only hope... ;-) And please, please STAY IN NEVADA!!! Republicans getting a little angry in Montana, eh? Signs of desperation following the (I always hesitate to say this word) "man" who's on his way out. Since most already voted, he'll, probably win since it's Montana but, going to be a bit "lighter in the wallet" Have to hit them where it hurts. Only two things they care about is themselves and their money. What's that I hear? Muslim Ban going down for the third time? Shouldn't kick a guy when he's down now. :-(

nelsonokelmgmailcom
  5/25/2017 18:46 EST

MexJuan1 YUP!

DeniseLR
  5/25/2017 18:49 EST

Pedro is wondering why his posts aren't being put up. I told him they probably aren't as brilliant as mine. What he wanted to say was that the stalker, with his silly rhetoric, is doing more damage than help to AO, whose popularity is at record lows and for whom odds of impeachment are given at one betting site of 50%. And to encourage him to keep it up!

DeniseLR
  5/25/2017 18:49 EST

Pedro is wondering why his posts aren't being put up. I told him they probably aren't as brilliant as mine. What he wanted to say was that the stalker, with his silly rhetoric, is doing more damage than help to AO, whose popularity is at record lows and for whom odds of impeachment are given at one betting site of 50%. And to encourage him to keep it up!

MexJuan1
  5/25/2017 19:01 EST

The video of trump "strong arming" the Prime Minister of Montenegro out of the way like the Third Grade mentality playground bully that he is, to the core (that is exemplary of his lack of character, style and class. None of which he possesses) says all you need to know about this LOSER! he's the most embarrassing thing that has ever happened to America. I don't feel anger anymore. I'm just embarrassed to be an American. At this stage of my life, that just makes me sad...

DeniseLR
  5/25/2017 19:05 EST

Ditto. I agree. AO makes Dick Cheney or Rumsfeld look like class acts. Which takes a lot of work.

MexJuan1
  5/25/2017 19:16 EST

Never thought those guys and "W" would look so good, did ya? Me neither... And he's an out and out liar and a War Criminal who violated the Constitution, outright lying to the American ppl to start a War. They all did and this JOKER does make them look "good". It's, simply, pathetic and again, totally embarrassing. To be honest, I know we've been off subject on this but, it's therapy for me, truth be known. I can't "wear this" around without talking and I do not wish to have face to face conversation about it with ANYONE. Does anyone else feel the same? I've wondered...

Ramzfan
  5/25/2017 23:16 EST

Imagine that...'Ol MexJuan says he doesn't care if he's "off subject" but that talking politics is "therapy" for him. If someone with a differing opinion than him posts something on here though, they're "stalkers" and imbiciles and all sorts of oddball things. Now that's what I would call your typical liberal. (Although he takes things to a different level) not a whole lot different than the James Comey affair....the Dems were calling for his scalp and two months later, they're trying to impeach the president for firing him! Go figure....

MexJuan1
  5/26/2017 00:15 EST

Not, even, what I said but, I wouldn't expect you to understand or comprehend anyway. You're so entangled in twisting things your way and not listening to what someone is actually, saying. Sounds familiar. Besides the fact that like most alt right persons, you really don't care. The Conservative mind is diseased and of an Elementary mindset. Just sit back and watch the decline of Fox News who, because they also can't recognize fact from fiction, are going to Hell in a hand basket lead by trump and taking the rest of your kind with them. Tic tock, tic tock... Done with you for now. You couldn't carry my pencil and note pad! Get back to you when "YOUR MAN" is shown the door.

DeniseLR
  5/26/2017 03:59 EST

Albuquerque is close to 50% Hispanic, so there is a lot of hatred of AO based on immigration policies. Although, interestingly, there is also a Hispanic population that settled in NM way back in 1500s (Santa Fe is I believe oldest US city) that doesn't identify at all with recent Mexican immigrants. Also a lot of concern as about 23 million losing health insurance, many in NM. But there are also many who don't see the tragedy of Supreme Court appointment, EPA destruction, cuts in Social Safety net,, etc. etc. We occasionally go to a senior center that has a lot of vets (Kirtland AF base nearby) who support AO and hate people getting all their "free stuff". Despite the fact that these centers are heavily subsidized ($13/year), many of them get nearly free healthcare at VA, receive SS and often live in federally subsidized senior centers and receive food
subsidies and ride federally subsidized public transit. But they support AO (sort of) and don't consider their free stuff " free stuff". They love Fox News (maybe not so much post O'Reilly/Ailes) and very difficult to discuss our feelings about AO with many of them without offending them/turning them off.

DeniseLR
  5/26/2017 04:06 EST

But keep yapping, 'definitive idiot' if you aren't passed out in an alley behind Harold's Club. You're doing the Devil's work for him and showing everyone the type of folks backing AO come hell or high water. "Ol Juan" (very folksy,) is correct.

DeniseLR
  5/26/2017 04:29 EST

And I'm the one that called you a stalker. You offer little new, just wait in the weeds until one of us posts something, then jump out right away with some dumb ass put down. Creepy stalker.

MexJuan1
  5/26/2017 07:19 EST

Then they're all delusional, Sundowners, Alzheimer's and PTSD sufferers.. Not to mention highly, obsessively racist against the Black Population like most South Westerners. Hate filled by the, obvious, lying rhetoric of a Reality TV huckster who they "think" is a "Great Guy". They're P.T. Barnum's dream crowd. Foolish, low I.Q. dumb, stupid, ignorant ppl who would worship Dog, Cow, Horse and made up animals made of gold in Ancient Egypt. Hypocritically, blindly religious and God fearing worst of all! Ppl like this are Pavlovian. Conditioned to be beaten down and take it, knowing in the end they'll get the food or the ride or the domicile or the crappy, free health care as their "prize" so, the weather it, dumbed down and grateful, like an animal. The conditioning and subservience of the poor and disenfranchised in America by the ruling, wealthy class in the Capitalistic Dictatorship that country has become is, nothing short of, sad, pitiful and despicable. It's Rome all over again and it is full on ablaze! And on that wonderful note, I'm making home made from scratch Baked Beans and Baby Back Ribs today. I don't have any more time for this crap today! Let them all burn in Hell and "eat cake" and Govt. Cheese!!! Ciao...

Iturbide
  5/26/2017 08:38 EST

Re DLR " NM way back in 1500s (Santa Fe is I believe oldest "
True ; you may know too that it wasn't the Japanese, that first invaded the U.S. at Pearl Harbour. It was Mexico in 1916.y . Pancho Villa and his small Army occupied and sacked Columbus, New Mexico.

MexJuan1
  5/26/2017 08:44 EST

St. Augustine, Florida is the oldest, continuously settled city in the U.S.

Ramzfan
  5/26/2017 10:51 EST

Hahahahahahhahaha...! That's us... the people who believe in keeping what we've earned...(earned with a REAL JOB,) we're not on any govt assistance except those that we've paid into all our lives, which is rightfully OUR OWN MONEY. We've saved, made investments, owned businesses and have done what it takes to live a comfortable life in retirement. Do we donate...? Hell yes! I donate all the time to needy organizations like Wounded Warriors, who by the way are not on govt handouts...they've EARNED everything that they get by protecting the rest of us at home. Do I donate to drug addicts and other losers in society? Only with my taxes, which I don't have a lot of choice about where the money goes. And do I like immigrants? Like most conservatives, only the ones who are LEGAL. I am currently helping a family to become legal. But they have to want to, or as Trump says, "Out you go...!" Well, that about wraps up my morning spiel. Like Juan says, sorry to be off subject, but I enjoy sharing with those who don't want anyone else's opinions...!
Oh, and by the way Denise, Harolds Club was torn down 20 years ago. You ought to get out more...!

DeniseLR
  5/26/2017 12:37 EST

Well, Circus Circus then? Fits in with the clowns for you. Still there?

DeniseLR
  5/26/2017 12:44 EST

Didn't know that about St. Augustine. Stand corrected. Of course that just covers settlements founded by Europeans. Pueblos like Laguna Acoma and others much older, I believe. Shut up, stalker!

DeniseLR
  5/26/2017 12:44 EST

Didn't know that about St. Augustine. Stand corrected. Of course that just covers settlements founded by Europeans. Pueblos like Laguna Acoma and others much older, I believe. Shut up, stalker!

DeniseLR
  5/26/2017 15:43 EST

Recommend checking out 538 newsletter for rather amazing math errors in the AO budget. Probably mentioned in a number of other places as well. Regarding Columbus NM, Iturbe, a lot of drama in last 5 + years as many of the city officials have been indicted for selling guns to criminals across the border in Mexico.

Iturbide
  5/26/2017 17:07 EST

DLR, the AO buffoon ignores this; Merchants of Death poring arms S. of the border. Not much difference to cartels selling drugs N. of border; Guns probably more deadlier

Ramzfan
  5/26/2017 17:42 EST

Lturbide...sounds like a WALL would be beneficial to both sides...what do you think...?

MexJuan1
  5/26/2017 17:49 EST

That's nothing new! The United States Government and a variety of "Specialized" Arms Dealers have been weaponizing the Drug Cartels for decades. Especially when the Republicans are in power. Reagan and Iran-Contra, The Sandonistas. I'm sure that Trump and his NRA, 2nd Amendment fiends are making a fortune. Drug Addiction keeps the poor and huddled masses down you know...

DeniseLR
  5/26/2017 17:50 EST

Why does the right prefer guns to drugs? They don't want to tax soda but want to keep pot illegal. Violence is preferred to nudity. Abortion is anathema but don't use birth control,.just abstain. Government spending is frowned upon, unless for the police or military. People will die once 23 million lose access to health care. I can only hope those that supported this repeal are the ones that bear the brunt of it.

DeniseLR
  5/26/2017 17:56 EST

Plenty of druggies in middle and upper classes. Statistically higher rate I believe for whites. Certainly numerically, if not %. Poor are more noticeable because they take it to the streets. Read the book ," Methland". Meth these days mostly comes from Mexico. Cartels prefer to cocaine as can produce in labs in Mexico. Doesn't come from S.A.

DeniseLR
  5/26/2017 17:56 EST

Plenty of druggies in middle and upper classes. Statistically higher rate I believe for whites. Certainly numerically, if not %. Poor are more noticeable because they take it to the streets. Read the book ," Methland". Meth these days mostly comes from Mexico. Cartels prefer to cocaine as can produce in labs in Mexico. Doesn't come from S.A.

DeniseLR
  5/26/2017 17:56 EST

Plenty of druggies in middle and upper classes. Statistically higher rate I believe for whites. Certainly numerically, if not %. Poor are more noticeable because they take it to the streets. Read the book ," Methland". Meth these days mostly comes from Mexico. Cartels prefer to cocaine as can produce in labs in Mexico. Doesn't come from S.A.

Ramzfan
  5/26/2017 17:57 EST

MexJuan, I notice you convieniently forgot to mention your heros "Fast 'n Furious" gun deals which got one of our agents killed. He probably was a conservative agent though, not worthy of your mention...!

MexJuan1
  5/26/2017 17:58 EST

Because they're angry, gun toting hypocrites who enjoy making money from the misery of others and can't get laid. You've seen all those fat, bald white men, haven't you? Explains a lot... ;-) The hot women they get are sickened by everything about them but, their money! You think Melania even wants to touch that lump o' lard? I'd wager he got laid, oh, about 11 years ago...

MexJuan1
  5/26/2017 18:00 EST

You're, more than likely, right about that. Good comment. The guns are, still, coming from the U.S., one way/reason or another.

Ramzfan
  5/26/2017 18:03 EST

Sounds to me like we need to build a WALL...!

Iturbide
  5/26/2017 18:10 EST

Trumzfan; re WALL ; Don't suppose you've taken a plane before. They actually can fly over a wall which is the most stoopid ridiculous, laughable and medieval idea that even a grade 4 student would see through. Besides even Trumpies know how to dig a tunnel

Ramzfan
  5/26/2017 18:16 EST

lturdbite...that's like saying "why learn to swim? You can take a boat!" Because you have to start somewhere! I'm not even going to expand on that silly statement...!

giershift43
  5/26/2017 18:23 EST

Around you

giershift43
  5/26/2017 19:07 EST

And they say they are right to lifers.. They want to control other people, especially women.

DeniseLR
  5/26/2017 19:44 EST

And death penalty seems to pose no problems, suggest no inconsistency in their reasoning. Not that we all aren't inconsistent in some way, but some folks make an art form out of it.

DeniseLR
  5/26/2017 19:49 EST

Interesting Obama blamed for Fast + Furious. Wasn't that started under Bush? Some would have blamed him if a toilet was stopped up somewhere in the Pentagon.

MexJuan1
  5/26/2017 19:49 EST

And some are just consistently inconsistent!

MexJuan1
  5/26/2017 19:55 EST

That's for sure but, the "topper" of all blame games on him has to be the Security Clearance issue of Flynn excuse used by the current administration when that had NOTHING to do with VETTING a Natl. Security Advisor, or anyone else for that matter, for a Cabinet Post. Which, of course, they did not do! Consistently inconsistent, not to mention, totally irrelevant... But, certainly, not unexpected.

Ramzfan
  5/26/2017 20:42 EST

Hahahahaha...that's rich...! Obama started Fast 'n Furious and it ALL BELONGS TO HIM...! Bush did some crazy things but you can't hang that one on him. Obama was the ONLY PRESIDENT with no job experience, no political experience and NO BUSINESS EXPERIENCE...! He made a lot of mistakes...!

Ramzfan
  5/26/2017 22:19 EST

Well well, GregGianforte, the "terrible Republican who was running for office in Montana and who beat up a liberal reporter yesterday, just won the Montana election. That should show the liberal haters who think that they can sling mud and everyone will believe it that the world is changing. You can lie, you can spread rumors that Trump only has xx poll numbers, you can try and pass off BS that our president is going to be impeached, but the truth is, and you libbies know it, that the world has changed and people are sick of the crap that Obama and the socialists have been trying to hang on this country. Wake up America...it's time to go to work and time for the free stuff to end...!

DeniseLR
  5/27/2017 00:29 EST

Keep it up. Making a great case for your hero! You need an inflatable AO sex doll. Anyone considering Trump might make US great again just needs to read your posts. Pathetic stalker.

MexJuan1
  5/27/2017 01:10 EST

All the trolls might be leaving even sooner than we could imagine in our most beautiful of dreams DLR! They're going after other criminal elements of the family by focusing on Jared and, possibly, reducing his role significantly by removing his Security Clearance due to the FBI scrutiny of his attempt to "set up a secret back channel" of communication to The Kremlin. That's going to piss the crime boss off beyond belief! Just wait for this Saturday morning's "Twitter Storm"! And, they're starting to FOLLOW THE MONEY searching for criminal activity which, of course, they will find. Following the money is what an Investigative Agency does when it's getting serious. Also, The Campaign, including the "capo de tout de capo" has been ordered by the FBI to produce all documents, communications, phone and computer records from the fateful day, June 15, 2015, of the announcement of becoming a candidate through January 20, 2017. Of course, they'll hide and/or destroy whatever they can (or already have) but, if they're (FBI) asking, they have plenty already, you know. Subpoenas can't be far behind. Manafort has been talking in an attempt to save his own skin (you know, like a snake?) so, inside information is being gleaned through inside "rat" channels. Republican Senator (Tom Cotton for one in Iowa, of all places!) called for "a new beginning" to a standing ovation. In IOWA!!! Republicans are slowly but surely, stepping away from the chaos as they must to preserve their careers. The noose is tightening and the pressure cooker is set to be turned up... Collusion. Treason. Obstruction of Justice. Financial Malfeasance. Emolument Violations. Abuse of Power. Conspiracy. Violations of Oath of Office. Perjury. Article 4/25th Amendment. The offenses and, possible, charges are mounting by the day... More to come, no doubt!

MexJuan1
  5/27/2017 05:58 EST

This article is worth reading. Especially for ALL of you CONSERVATIVES who think lying and Alt-Facts are ok...written by a Conservative Rep. with ethics..........

The New York Times

Why Nobody Cares the President Is Lying




If President Trump’s first tumultuous weeks have done nothing else, at least they have again made us a nation of readers.

As Americans grapple with the unreality of the new administration, George Orwell’s “1984” has enjoyed a resurgence of interest, becoming a surprise best seller and an invaluable guide to our post-factual world.

On his first full day in office Mr. Trump insisted that his inaugural crowd was the largest ever, a baseless boast that will likely set a pattern for his relationship both to the media and to the truth.

At an event marking Black History Month last week, the president took a detour from a discussion of Frederick Douglass — he described the abolitionist as “an example of somebody who’s done an amazing job and is being recognized more and more” — to talk about the press. “A lot of the media is actually the opposition party — they’re so biased,” he said. “So much of the media is the opposition party and knowingly saying incorrect things.”


Mr. Trump understands that attacking the media is the reddest of meat for his base, which has been conditioned to reject reporting from news sites outside of the conservative media ecosystem.

For years, as a conservative radio talk show host, I played a role in that conditioning by hammering the mainstream media for its bias and double standards. But the price turned out to be far higher than I imagined. The cumulative effect of the attacks was to delegitimize those outlets and essentially destroy much of the right’s immunity to false information. We thought we were creating a savvier, more skeptical audience. Instead, we opened the door for President Trump, who found an audience that could be easily misled.

The news media’s spectacular failure to get the election right has made it only easier for many conservatives to ignore anything that happens outside the right’s bubble and for the Trump White House to fabricate facts with little fear of alienating its base.

Unfortunately, that also means that the more the fact-based media tries to debunk the president’s falsehoods, the further it will entrench the battle lines.

During his first week in office, Mr. Trump reiterated the unfounded charge that millions of people had voted illegally. When challenged on the evident falsehood, Sean Spicer, the White House press secretary, seemed to argue that Mr. Trump’s belief that something was true qualified as evidence. The press secretary also declined to answer a straightforward question about the unemployment rate, suggesting that the number will henceforth be whatever the Trump administration wants it to be.

He can do this because members of the Trump administration feel confident that the alternative-reality media will provide air cover, even if they are caught fabricating facts or twisting words (like claiming that the “ban” on Muslim immigrants wasn’t really a “ban”). Indeed, they believe they have shifted the paradigm of media coverage, replacing the traditional media with their own.


In a stunning demonstration of the power and resiliency of our new post-factual political culture, Mr. Trump and his allies in the right media have already turned the term “fake news” against its critics, essentially draining it of any meaning. During the campaign, actual “fake news” — deliberate hoaxes — polluted political discourse and clogged social media timelines.

Some outlets opened the door, by helping spread conspiracy theories and indulging the paranoia of the fever swamps. For years, the widely read Drudge Report has linked to the bizarre conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, who believes that both the attacks of Sept. 11 and the Sandy Hook shootings were government-inspired “false flag” operations.

For conservatives, this should have made it clear that something was badly amiss in their media ecosystem. But now any news deemed to be biased, annoying or negative can be labeled “fake news.” Erroneous reports that the bust of the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. had been removed from the Oval Office or misleading reports that sanctions against Russia had been lifted will be seized on by Mr. Trump’s White House to reinforce his indictment.


Even as he continues to attack the “dishonest media,” Mr. Trump and his allies are empowering this alt-reality media, providing White House access to Breitbart and other post-factual outlets that are already morphing into fierce defenders of the administration.

The relationship appears to be symbiotic, as Mr. Trump often seems to pick up on talking points from Fox News and has tweeted out links from websites notorious for their casual relationship to the truth, including sites like Gateway Pundit, a hoax-peddling site that announced, shortly after the inauguration, that it would have a White House correspondent.

By now, it ought to be evident that enemies are important to this administration, whether they are foreigners, refugees, international bankers or the press.

But discrediting independent sources of information also has two major advantages for Mr. Trump: It helps insulate him from criticism and it allows him to create his own narratives, metrics and “alternative facts.”


All administrations lie, but what we are seeing here is an attack on credibility itself.

The Russian dissident and chess grandmaster Garry Kasparov drew upon long familiarity with that process when he tweeted: “The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.”

Mr. Kasparov grasps that the real threat is not merely that a large number of Americans have become accustomed to rejecting factual information, or even that they have become habituated to believing hoaxes. The real danger is that, inundated with “alternative facts,” many voters will simply shrug, asking, “What is truth?” — and not wait for an answer.

In that world, the leader becomes the only reliable source of truth; a familiar phenomenon in an authoritarian state, but a radical departure from the norms of a democratic society. The battle over truth is now central to our politics.

This may explain one of the more revealing moments from after the election, when one of Mr. Trump’s campaign surrogates, Scottie Nell Hughes, was asked to defend the clearly false statement by Mr. Trump that millions of votes had been cast illegally. She answered by explaining that everybody now had their own way of interpreting whether a fact was true or not.

“There’s no such thing, unfortunately, anymore as facts,” she declared. Among “a large part of the population” what Mr. Trump said was the truth.

“When he says that millions of people illegally voted,” she said, his supporters believe him — and “people believe they have facts to back that up.”

Or as George Orwell said: “The very concept of objective truth is fading out of the world. Lies will pass into history.” But Ms. Hughes’s comment was perhaps unintentionally insightful. Mr. Trump and company seem to be betting that much of the electorate will not care if the president tells demonstrable lies, and will pick and choose whatever “alternative facts” confirm their views.

The next few years will be a test of that thesis.

In the meantime, we must recognize the magnitude of the challenge. If we want to restore respect for facts and break through the intellectual ghettos on both the right and left, the mainstream media will have to be aggressive without being hysterical and adversarial without being unduly oppositional.

Perhaps just as important, it will be incumbent on conservative media outlets to push back as well. Conservatism should be a reality-based philosophy, and the movement will be better off if it recognizes that facts really do matter. There may be short-term advantages to running headlines about millions of illegal immigrants voting or secret United Nations plots to steal your guns, but the longer the right enables such fabrications, the weaker it will be in the long run. As uncomfortable as it may be, it will fall to the conservative media to police its worst actors.

The conservative media ecosystem — like the rest of us — has to recognize how critical, but also how fragile, credibility is in the Orwellian age of Donald Trump.

Charles J. Sykes (@SykesCharlie), a former talk-show host in Wisconsin, is the author of the forthcoming “How the Right Lost Its Mind.”


Sobering and a sad commentary. If you read this and continue to believe and support this, obvious, charlatan, respond if you like but, no longer will I respond to you.

DeniseLR
  5/27/2017 11:30 EST

Interesting and hopeful. It is like we have been transported to an alternate reality the last few months. Too young to fully understand the Kennedy/Nixon era. Dont know if this has the potential to top it- Cold war, Cuban invasion, assassination, Watergate, Spiro Agnew, Bebe Rebozo- but getting close,,!!

Ramzfan
  5/27/2017 11:32 EST

MexJuan is just full of FAKE NEWS this morning...hahahahaha...!

MexJuan1
  5/27/2017 12:38 EST

I was 9/10 years old and being ordered under my desk, on my knees bent over with both hands over the back of my head during the Cold War with the USSR. I, still,to this day have no idea how that was going to protect me from a bomb blast but,when I was a kid,you just did what you were told. No questions! We lived about 15 miles from the Ravenna Arsenal which, to this day is a virtual, underground city of weapons and War Machinery. The day JFK was assassinated (by the mob and others, not LHO!) we were all sent home for a week to watch B/W TV coverage of the funeral. All the teachers were crying. The bus driver and Police were crying. My Mother cried for days! I was, kind of, oblivious and just spent my time outside, ice skating, playing hockey and shoveling off the Elementary School Outdoor Basketball Court with my buddy to play. During Nixon, I was in College. Kent State, May 4th happened 45 minutes away and I was ready to go to Canada. Was NOT going to fight a War for Standard Oil, LBJ and Nixon that we had no business fighting. Lost a few friends and others came home severe alcoholics, junkies or all messed up in the head. I could have cared less about Nixon and Watergate and just, barely, knew about it because my Dad was watching. Read about it over the years. Just a botched break in by a super paranoid sweaty guy. This is big! An attack on Democracy. Treason. Highly criminal enterprise... And so much more highly visible due to minute by minute coverage of the 24/7, endless news cycle. And, of course, the brazen arrogance of the ppl involved. Going to the beach!!! Ciao. ;-)

Ramzfan
  5/27/2017 15:20 EST

Well how about that? 'Ol MexJuan told us a bit about himself and I'm not a bit surprised. Judging from what he says, he's got to be in his early sixties, not much of an athlete & probably either openly or a closet gay. He's always been afraid to serve his country and likes to brag about his "reasons" for why he's been a chicken. He doesn't have much money to retire on, probably because he worked all his life for some government entity (when he DID work) and never saved a dime, figuring that his country, who he has no respect for, would always be there to bail him and his life partner out. The trouble is, his country has figured HIM out! No wonder he's trying to hide in Mexico! I think I might start calling him MexJuanita...!

giershift43
  5/27/2017 16:15 EST

Wow for a guy who use to make signs for a living, he now thinks he is some kind of analyst. Of course all his interpretations serve his need to put someone else down. A sign of an insecure man.

Ramzfan
  5/27/2017 16:48 EST

Hahahahaha...if I listened to you Gier, I might feel insecure. Have you ever been married..?

giershift43
  5/27/2017 16:50 EST

How is that relevant?? Why do you like to look for keys to use for personal attacks,,,, sounds sociopathic.

giershift43
  5/27/2017 17:03 EST

It looks worse than that to me. More like treason.

Ramzfan
  5/27/2017 18:40 EST

Whoe...did I hit a soft spot there...? For someone who likes to throw the bait out in the water, you'd better be careful Gier, there just might be some dorsal fins circling near your boat...! Hahahahaha!

Cozumeldeb
  5/27/2017 22:01 EST

Overlooking, Fast & Furious was a republican program.

Ramzfan
  5/27/2017 22:21 EST

Sorry Deb, but according to several news sources including The Washington Post & Politifact, Fast & Furious was begun in October of 2009 under the Obama Administration. Obama tried his best to place the blame on
"The previous administration", but it was to no avail. Fast & Furious does & will forever belong to Obama...!

giershift43
  5/27/2017 22:26 EST

You wish . So your an athlet Ramzfan . How many hot dogs did you eat?

Ramzfan
  5/27/2017 22:28 EST

What's an "Athelet" Gier....?

giershift43
  5/27/2017 22:29 EST

Ramz the more interesting question is how many times have you been divorced?

Ramzfan
  5/27/2017 22:46 EST

Never! Next question...?

giershift43
  5/28/2017 00:45 EST

I agree those endless tax breaks to the idle rich need to end!

MexJuan1
  5/28/2017 00:49 EST

They won't. No matter who's in power. Politicians pander to their donors. The rich and wealthy.

DeniseLR
  5/28/2017 14:15 EST

Looks like Ol Steve (Yuri?) has been sitting out on his porch, drinking Steel Reserve, glaring at all the Hispanic workers headed to work at the casinos, and wondering what he can do to upset people that are some way relayed to, in favor of, the Mexican people (Not unconditionally.) And destroy a thread, just because he can! Why doesn't everyone agree with him? Who cares about AOs history. What is wrong with his past, his predatory, dishonest behavior. What a great guy, sacricing his billionaire lifestyle to become the most powerful person on mm the planet. Noone of the past candidates has ever wanted to do that. An.d who needs knowledge of policy and institutional knowledge when he he has these great, hand picked advisors, Manafort, Flynn. tough guys who know all about $$ and power. Great men all, underappreciated. Shut up about them!
Say what you will. Under appreciate Viva Putin. All you Mexicans and Eastern European immigrants, join him for a Steel Reserve or Mickeys. Ol Steve is a man among men. And he loves attention, kind of a lower lever AO. And can he fill you in on the issues of the day. Find this guy and give him a big bear hug. He can show you how to know, or sound like, you really know your stuff! And he is agreeable. He loves attention and actress we with everything you say! What a peach, a real sweetie.
Serious note, couldn't disagree with you more about Vietnam era, Cuban missile crisis, Kennedy Assassination, 100s of thousands protesting. Wasn't as traumatic because we were younger. You have assured us AO won't last. Democracy is being challenged daily in various ways all across the country. Republicans have become hucksters abd front men for big business (,Dems too yo some degree.) And then we had a Civil War. Disagree but you are certainly entitled. Have to prove to me every single politician at the top is corrupt. Maybe to some degree. You'd have to define corrupt. Define it loosely, we're all corrupt. We just need yo listen to Good Ol' Steve. He makes everything so simple. Smart is dumb, down is up. Have a Steel Reserve, or Mickey's with him. Then everything will make sense.

DeniseLR
  5/28/2017 14:15 EST

Looks like Ol Steve (Yuri?) has been sitting out on his porch, drinking Steel Reserve, glaring at all the Hispanic workers headed to work at the casinos, and wondering what he can do to upset people that are some way relayed to, in favor of, the Mexican people (Not unconditionally.) And destroy a thread, just because he can! Why doesn't everyone agree with him? Who cares about AOs history. What is wrong with his past, his predatory, dishonest behavior. What a great guy, sacricing his billionaire lifestyle to become the most powerful person on mm the planet. Noone of the past candidates has ever wanted to do that. An.d who needs knowledge of policy and institutional knowledge when he he has these great, hand picked advisors, Manafort, Flynn. tough guys who know all about $$ and power. Great men all, underappreciated. Shut up about them!
Say what you will. Under appreciate Viva Putin. All you Mexicans and Eastern European immigrants, join him for a Steel Reserve or Mickeys. Ol Steve is a man among men. And he loves attention, kind of a lower lever AO. And can he fill you in on the issues of the day. Find this guy and give him a big bear hug. He can show you how to know, or sound like, you really know your stuff! And he is agreeable. He loves attention and actress we with everything you say! What a peach, a real sweetie.
Serious note, couldn't disagree with you more about Vietnam era, Cuban missile crisis, Kennedy Assassination, 100s of thousands protesting. Wasn't as traumatic because we were younger. You have assured us AO won't last. Democracy is being challenged daily in various ways all across the country. Republicans have become hucksters abd front men for big business (,Dems too yo some degree.) And then we had a Civil War. Disagree but you are certainly entitled. Have to prove to me every single politician at the top is corrupt. Maybe to some degree. You'd have to define corrupt. Define it loosely, we're all corrupt. We just need yo listen to Good Ol' Steve. He makes everything so simple. Smart is dumb, down is up. Have a Steel Reserve, or Mickey's with him. Then everything will make sense.

DeniseLR
  5/28/2017 14:24 EST

The misspellings in last post are due to my phone. I can spell better than that, better than good Old Redneck Steve, honest!

Ramzfan
  5/28/2017 17:42 EST

Good 'ol Denise, Juanita & Gier...always have an answer. Unless I ask them "Would you like to make a little WAGER on whether Trump gets impeached...? I'll bet not a one of them will take that bet...! If they do, they'll never pay off! Typical liberals..all talk, no action...!

giershift43
  5/28/2017 20:36 EST

No definition of a liberal has anything to do with reneging on bets or lying. That it alt right propaganda. Stereotyping so you don't deal with facts.

DeniseLR
  5/28/2017 21:19 EST

LIS, low IQ Steve. Add an 'E' and its perfect. Names for Juan really show what a woman hater (misogynist for smart people). Keep it up, Stalker. Doubt if you'd be so brave if all this were face to face. Too dumb to realize you're helping the wrong side. Interesting how your tone changed and the name calling started, you simple minded redneck.

DeniseLR
  5/28/2017 22:46 EST

The project involved providing guns to Mexico in order to track them and lasted from 2006 to 2011. Called F + F starting in 2009 because, according to my research, Jacob Chambers became involved (not Paul Walker, Stalker!) who was a member of a car club. So operation started under Bush and ended with Obama. But go ahead and blame him anyway, because how could a simple Kenyan nationalist know what to do? And if you start to post I am finally seeing the light because you don't get sarcasm, you are a simple tool (not sarcasm). Why don't you go away and start a Good Old Steve's Beer Drinking and Politics for Dummies thread.

Ramzfan
  5/28/2017 23:35 EST

Different "projects" Denise, different results. Go ahead and try to link the two, because you're embarrassed T what your hero tried & failed to accomplish. We all know what your embarracement must feel like...!

DeniseLR
  5/28/2017 23:40 EST

Just like clockwork, Stalker. Don't give up. Just because I rarely read them I'm sure many crazy people here -maybe even in Russia- can't wait for the next.

DeniseLR
  5/28/2017 23:51 EST

I suppose an ongoing series of Sting Operations could be called different projects. By a politically biased, intellectually challenged ..
Well, you get the point. I'm more concerned about the some of the drone bombings Obama did authorize. (Notice I said SOME) Now please shut up or go away.

Ramzfan
  5/29/2017 17:58 EST

Ah Denise, you don't like it when my tone changes and I start dishing back the ugliness that you and Juanita have been spreading, do you...? Well sweetheart, all you have to do is talk civilly and others will match your tone.

giershift43
  5/29/2017 18:52 EST

I see it as the other way around. Anyone who doesn't agree with Ramz gets some very nasty remarks .

Ramzfan
  5/29/2017 18:59 EST

Of course you see it that way Gier...you're a lib..!

DeniseLR
  5/29/2017 19:07 EST

I read your posts,. GS, rarely read his anymore. Very patronizing, always needs to have the last word, tho God knows why. Some people would rather name call than resort to real knowledge, which they are generally lacking. One thing I have learned from him is to seriously consider subscribing to the Washington Post. I like what they send me online. Meanwhile Trump continues to blunder along. Merkel's comments noteworthy. Right now I am listening to part of his Memorial Day speech praising vets, while I remember what he said about John McCain.

DeniseLR
  5/29/2017 19:08 EST

I read your posts,. GS, rarely read his anymore. Very patronizing, always needs to have the last word, tho God knows why. Some people would rather name call than resort to real knowledge, which they are generally lacking. One thing I have learned from him is to seriously consider subscribing to the Washington Post. I like what they send me online. Meanwhile Trump continues to blunder along. Merkel's comments noteworthy. Right now I am listening to part of his Memorial Day speech praising vets, while I remember what he said about John McCain.

giershift43
  5/30/2017 03:01 EST

How do you define liberal? You make it sound like that means liar or incompetent. Neither liberal nor conservative should mean that a fact nor opinion is invalid. All it means is a willingness to be open and deal with change. You use the term like it is some derogatory term of poor character or a disability in cognition. Neither conservatism nor liberalism are themselves intrinsically wrong or dishonest. Conservative generally is a reluctance to change.

DeniseLR
  5/30/2017 03:10 EST

I agree. And I find it hard to imagine anyone who has the ability to think for themselves is 100% liberal or 100% conservative. I'm generally more left than right but there are good conservative Ideas and bad liberal ideas, in my opinion.

Ramzfan
  5/30/2017 11:11 EST

Ah, Liberalism....that is an interesting topic. There are many ways to describe it. The way that it sounds though, is in the ears and mind of the recipient. You ask how I would describe it so I'll give you my opinion. I would say that a liberal is someone who looks for change, but doesn't necessarily analyze what the change will bring. A liberal wants to see their world as organized and have everything / everyone in its proper place and nobody expresses their personal opinions unless it fits the opinion of the Grand Poobah, which we'll call the liberal think machine. A liberal loves to make rules & laws for others to live by, whether or not those others agree. A liberal wants there to be a government who you can turn to for healthcare when you're sick, money when you're out of work, food when you're hungry and comfort when you just don't feel things are going right.
A conservative, on the other hand, believes just the opposite...they believe that what you earn should be yours, that the government is there to govern, and not to be a babysitter to everyone. They believe that everyone is put on this earth to take care of themselves and those that they choose to take care of, meaning their family, those who cannot take care of themselves, and those who need help for reasons outside of their normal expectations. A conservative believes that everyone is entitled to their opinion, but don't force it on others. A conservative believes in a live & let live environment. A conservative believes that environmental concerns should be taken seriously, but should not be hyped to fit the political wants of those wishing to make a name for themselves. Lastly, a conservative wants everyone to just get along.

larryoinpdx
  5/30/2017 12:11 EST

Ramzfan, you have your labels mixed - it is the "conservatives" (read "authoritarian followers") that want everyone regimented and marching in fundamentalist Christian lockstep, preferably to low paying factory jobs with no benefits. You are living in a ReaganBushTrump induced illusion, which you fight desperately to maintain or you are just a liar. Liberalism is no more or less than the conviction that human rights should trump (pardon the pun) property rights when no compromise is possible and conservatism goes the other way.

That is clear for everyone to see, but somehow you and the other reactionaries continue to deny it. Did liberals mastermind the invasions of Iraq or was it the Bush neocons? Did liberals create "free speech zones" to cancel the First Amendment? Was it the liberals that converted America's police to an armed, occupying force or was it the law-and-order reactionaries? Was it the liberals that opened the door to unfettered corporate buying and selling of congressmen and senators? No! It was conservatives like Roberts and Thomas and Scalia who did that. Who stopped the vote counting in Florida in 2000?

The facts that debunk your stereotypes are on the front page of every newspaper in the world every day, but you don't seem to notice. Wake up!

Cozumeldeb
  5/30/2017 13:05 EST

Ramzfan, You continue to be mistaken about Liberals and Conservative..walk back a few Decades;
1972: President Richard Nixon R-CA, Watergate scandal, 69 cabinet members & Reps/Senators charged, 48 plead guilty to conspiracy, obstruction of justice, perjury, income tax evasion..we all know how that turned out..then in 1973 VP Spiro Agnew was outed for tax evasion & bribery and left office with a plea deal.
Ronald Reagan (twin bro of Trump for his lies and corruption). Reagan had lower ratings (58%) than Ike, JFK, Nixon & Carter. 1982 trickle down voodoo disaster began and jobless hit 10,1% worst in 42 yrs, poverty rate 15%. Blew the deficit up, widening gap between rich and poor, destroyed unions at the request of corporations.
Reagan was involved in the most scandals of any President, Iran/Contra, 69 cabinet members/reps/military were charged. Abscam,31 were charged and Wedtech Defense scandal 8 were charged..plus 240 Marines/Navy men were killed in Beruit bombing because of Reagan actions. GW Bush/Cheney/Halliburton oil wars made them billions$$..killed over a million people and brought terrorism to us for the next1000 yrs if we last that long..
Sure you are going to say, but the Democrats..and for sure have had issues along the way with bribery, income tax and blow jobs..but never to the extent that Rethugs who have bilked America for decades, never voted for 1 program that would benefit Americans, only for Corporations..GOP sins center on money and some peculiar sex scandals, gay sex, pedophile sex and hookers...No time for more but sure you get the jest, will deny all..but we know you are hot air..Enjoy your day.

DeniseLR
  5/30/2017 13:09 EST

Wow! I agree, can't improve on that.

giershift43
  5/30/2017 13:20 EST

Thumbs UP!

MexJuan1
  5/30/2017 13:22 EST

Excellent post "larry" but, I'm afraid you're wasting your time attempting to explain things in a factual manner to a delusional liar. Lying to themselves and others is a means of justifying their existence and so called "purpose" which is to serve themselves only, be disruptive and not be a positive contributor to the good of any society. Trust me, he's best ignored.

DeniseLR
  5/30/2017 16:15 EST

Liberal or conservative, I don't get why anyone would approve alienating NATO allies and pretending Russian attempts to influence US political outcomes is inconsequential. Trump is a disaster.

MexJuan1
  5/30/2017 16:35 EST

"Getting it" is the easy and obvious part. Now, if you're questioning if it's an intelligent or sensible thing to do publicly, well, that's difficult to comprehend until and unless you consider the source. "Money is pouring in from Russia" says Donny Jr. "We're using Russian money to finance our Golf Courses" (not verbatim) Eric Trump. And we've not seen or delved into the bosses financials and the many other companies he owns or has fronted and/or set up and how much he owes and has borrowed from Russia. That's coming though... Trump could burn his money if he had Putin's! The "get" for the Trumps anyway, is MONEY. Putin, already got paid back, firstly, by the Republican Platform change on Ukraine and what he's done to the U.S. Yet to come, he'll be left unfettered to obtain PROPERTY, COUNTRIES. THE BALTIC STATES, POLAND ETC and in the offing, more MONEY! the "quid pro quo" is the "get"!

larryoinpdx
  5/30/2017 17:02 EST

Juan, I know what you say is 100% correct, but I had a little time this morning and . . . well . . . I guess I just couldn't let it go by.

larryoinpdx
  5/30/2017 17:19 EST

Denise, Trump alienated NATO allies for the same reason he 1) changed a Republican Party Platform plank regarding Ukraine, gutted the State Department, challenged the CIA and directed all the covert meetings with the Russian diplomats - he is a Putin toady and a traitor, and all those policy and agency changes pandered to Russian interests.

Iturbide
  5/30/2017 17:34 EST

Good writing by Larry; IMO, Ramzs**t wants attention and haul everyone to play in his dirty sand box. No use debating him; its like flogging a brain dead donkey that would only make the miserable beast bray louder

larryoinpdx
  5/30/2017 17:45 EST

I know you and Juan are absolutely right lturbine, and your analogy about the mule is priceless. I get so outraged at the nonsense, the appalling ignorance and the just plain lying, sometimes, that I must speak out for my own good.

giershift43
  5/30/2017 17:47 EST

Try Webster instead of your own fantasies. This reflects your highly prejudiced alternate reality.

DeniseLR
  5/30/2017 18:02 EST

Must be nice to have everything so simple and obvious (blindingly).

MexJuan1
  5/30/2017 18:26 EST

If you mean me by your comment, ppl like these care about two things. A third if you count power. Money and themselves. Money is always the motivation!

larryoinpdx
  5/30/2017 18:49 EST

giershift43, to whom was your comment addressed and what in the name of God were you trying to say? Websters? Do you think anything in this thread is ill defined? If so, what?

Cozumeldeb
  5/30/2017 20:34 EST

Larryoinpdx: You earned a standing O for your comment. Clear, concise, fact checked and kick ass!

Cozumeldeb
  5/30/2017 20:52 EST

Sure everyone is happy you had some free time today..I added my 2 cents on GOP presidents past history and records Ronnie Reagan, the Rethug hero had the most scandals and by far the most cabinet members and top staff face indictments and jail time. He also worked with corporations to kill unions, blew up the deficit with insane "trickle down theory, unemployment went up to 15%..Let's not forget Iran-Contra, selling arms, Oliver North, who should still be in jail instead of a Fox commentary fool.

larryoinpdx
  5/30/2017 22:08 EST

Cozumeldeb, everything you say is absolutely true, and even then I'm certain we only know the tip of the iceberg. Reagan brought out this "government is bad" strain, which is a gross perversion of healthy, 19th century skepticism - then he used it to mobilize the racists.

LeiaRowan
  5/31/2017 07:08 EST

-Ah, Liberalism....that is an interesting topic. There are many ways to describe it. The way that it sounds though, is in the ears and mind of the recipient. You ask how I would describe it so I'll give you my opinion.-
And I will give you my opinion as well, since you opened the ball:

-I would say that a liberal is someone who looks for change, but doesn't necessarily analyze what the change will bring.-
No, actually you are half right, a Liberal seeks change when that change makes sense. Liberals are capable of deep analysis, because usually we are free thinkers and better educated then conservatives.


- A liberal wants to see their world as organized and have everything / everyone in its proper place and nobody expresses their personal opinions unless it fits the opinion of the Grand Poobah, which we'll call the liberal think machine.-
No, wrong again, we love open debate and we are not the ones who get angry or violence first, although we can take care of that too, when necessary. The founders were the Liberals of their day, they fought against the Tories(conservatives) who tried to keep us under the influence of england. They made sure we could all speak our minds without fear of censure.

-A liberal loves to make rules & laws for others to live by, whether or not those others agree.-
lol, wrong again, Liberals want to live in peace with everyone around, and so we expect a certain amount of cooperation so we as a society can exist, like fair taxation, so the roads, schools and bridges don’t all fall down. and by fair, I personally mean a sliding scale, if you make more, you pay a larger percentage willingly.

-A liberal wants there to be a government who you can turn to for healthcare when you're sick, money when you're out of work, food when you're hungry and comfort when you just don't feel things are going right.-
Yes we do, it is called being civilized, helping those who need it, physically, mentally and spiritually. No dogma, just common sense. All modern countries outside the US have single payer healthcare, people don’t go bankrupt because they get ill. The Nordic socialist countries take care of all citizens from cradle to grave, they are the least religious and the most happy in all the world. When I was in SE Asia, I saw that even the Vietnamese and Laotians are far happier then Americans. and those are communist countries, the ultimate socialism!

-A conservative, on the other hand, believes just the opposite...they believe that what you earn should be yours, that the government is there to govern, and not to be a babysitter to everyone.-
That is just greed and an excuse to be nasty to others.


-They believe that everyone is put on this earth to take care of themselves and those that they choose to take care of, meaning their family, those who cannot take care of themselves, and those who need help for reasons outside of their normal expectations.-
From my observations, most neo-cons inherit way too much, There needs to be a better redistribution of money so people like trump don’t happen.
He is a spoiled brat who never grew up. and he never had to really work for anything, he bullies his way like most conservatives and screams when he doesn’t get his way.

-A conservative believes that everyone is entitled to their opinion, but don't force it on others.-
OMGss, I almost spit my coffee on the computer when I read that line,.. wow, again you are wrong, by now you must be used to that, lol:-). Who is calling the news “fake”?, who is ducking press conferences?, who are the ones who limit opinions? We Liberals love new ideas, the word conservative means literally “an unwillingness to change, to fight against change”.

-A conservative believes in a live & let live environment.-
What??? another lie, come on man ! Who is fighting against samesex marriage? Who is fighting hard to limit Women’s choices about abortion etc? Who fights every change that is proposed? Who champions private prisons and wants them full of the poor so you can have ready slave labor. Again for petty offenses Liberals do not wish jail for anyone, we are not afraid of people, we don’t want them locked away.

-A conservative believes that environmental concerns should be taken seriously, but should not be hyped to fit the political wants of those wishing to make a name for themselves.-
Yikes,.. conservatives deny climate change, they are about to derail the EPA and allow the dumping of coal waste in rivers and lakes.

-Lastly, a conservative wants everyone to just get along.-
ROFLMAO here, they are truly the most divisive and contentious people on the planet,.. you do realize the fascist/nazis are conservative, yeah. Since tRump’s stolen election, America is the most divided country on Earth. There may well be civil war, and if there is, we, the Liberals will win as we always do. It just takes alot more shyte to hit the fan before we get roused to action. Just look at what happened in WW2 with Japan, they knocked out most of the American fleet, but America under a Liberal president bounced back and won in the pacific, and helped win in Europe too.

No, you have it all wrong,.. study after study have shown the conservatives to be cowards who duck their military obligations. There have been many studies of children growing up, some following the people for 30+ years and the findings are very telling. The easy going kids who laugh and play with ease become Liberals,.. the whiny scared kids become conservatives. And that is borne out in the way we all approach making laws,.. we want everyone to have as much freedom as possible, you want to lock up anyone who disagrees with you !!!

giershift43
  5/31/2017 08:01 EST

You are correct Deb, but he said it like someone's dear grandpa!! So those who do not check the reality versus the rhetoric follow a lead that is not in their own best interests.

Cozumeldeb
  5/31/2017 08:15 EST

LeiiaRowen, killed it girl!

Iturbide
  5/31/2017 09:01 EST

Excellent writing by Leiarowan.
We, north of the U.S. are proud of our great PM , J. Trudeau, He is from the Liberal party, which espouses values close to the Democrats and those that Leia alluded to.

Ramzfan
  5/31/2017 09:51 EST

Sounds like we all agree to disagree....!

DeniseLR
  5/31/2017 10:12 EST

I have to agree mostly with Leia, obviously. But I think her definition of liberals is what we would like to think are the very best qualities of people that self identify as liberals. I have met many who have some of the other characteristics as well. I have heard arguments that the right is further right than it has ever been in modern times. And that democrats are 'corporate', not liberals at all. I believe Nixon suggested universal health care, and at one point republicans seriously considered it. Liberal and conservative ideologies seem to blur at times for me. Not claiming to have all the answers. I do know I am far from being a conservative. I also know the same applies to Trump. He is however a disaster.

larryoinpdx
  5/31/2017 13:30 EST

Well thought out and very well written, LeiaRowan - I could not possibly agree more!

larryoinpdx
  5/31/2017 13:32 EST

Exactly right giershift43 -- too much attention paid to what they *say* and nowhere near enough to what it is they do!

larryoinpdx
  5/31/2017 13:35 EST

Actually, ramzfan, we all pretty much agree to disagree with you!

larryoinpdx
  5/31/2017 14:09 EST

Ramzfan, you must understand that your theory of government is a *minority* theory in the US and the rest of western civilization. Most of us are repelled by the underlying hypotheses of modern conservatism, which manifests itself as corporate toadyism at best and fascism at worst and is based on social darwinist ideas with which most of us utterly disagree as Leia so competently pointed out. That is the reason Trump required Russian intervention and Comey's sabotage to even win the electoral college - he never had a chance at the popular vote.

As long as you hold views which are reprehensible to the majority you will feel alienated, but that is the price of your commitment - it will never do you any good to lash out at the majority because it does not see things as you do, and you will never persuade anyone you are right in that fashion.

There is plenty room for correction in the Democratic and and in modern American liberalism, but none of that correction can come from moving to the right -- there has been far too much of that in recent times. See, for example, the actions of Bill Clinton when he was in the White House - totally vilified by the right, he was the best Democratic friend the conservatives ever had.

giershift43
  5/31/2017 19:45 EST

Well put

giershift43
  5/31/2017 19:46 EST

Well put

DeniseLR
  6/1/2017 15:11 EST

So AO figured republicans are stupid and would buy Obama BC argument. Shows they are stupid and that AO is a cynical pri.. Just curious about the definition of 'Liberal'. How does that equate with living in Mexico and providing $$ to an arguably corrupt government and oppressive upper economic class? If you argue US is the same I would disagree but at least argue you can speak your mind here (US). Not arguing you should not live there, just wondering how you equate doing so with demanding, idealistic liberal philosophy.

DeniseLR
  6/1/2017 15:14 EST

Oh, the repubs are stupid quote attributed to Jared Kushner sharing an AO strategy with Obama birth certificate. He's correct, obviously, since they bought it.

Cozumeldeb
  6/1/2017 15:53 EST

DeniseLR, interesting question, but little backstory, we began going to MX in 1989, husband, son and many friends were divers..through the years we made many friendships, and enjoyed the community and of course what it had to offer us..As time went we, of course, learned about the inequities in MX, typically described as super rich or poor..over time that has changed and there is a middle class building and it can be seen in many areas of the country. US along with other countries have built factories there, of course cheaper labor, but also quality products. Mexico is NOT China, the majority of their goods are high quality, IMO they are no longer 3rd world..Now to compare US and MX per corruption, seriously I don't see a lot of difference. American corporations own the republican party, take money on the table and under the table,
Twitler is a perfect example..American has been in fast decline since Reagan was President, who worked with corporations to end labor unions, brought us disaster trickle down BS, unemployment rose to 15% and the gap between rich and poor widened..Along came 2nd Bush presidency, as if the 1st wasn't enough, and he, Cheney, Rumsfeld and the rest of the cabinet should have been tried as war criminals, endless war 16 yrs and counting and disaster recession where millions lost their homes, jobs, retirements and then 8 yrs later voted these jackasses back into office and this guy is a sarcastic, psychopath and has the possibility of God's knows what..Exit plans are required in my mind..News flash on my tablet is that is just pulled America from Paris Climate Accord, and this morning announced ALL of his top staff, including Conway, Kushner, Bannon, Moore, Reince etc will be exempt from ethics rules????? WTF..who knew any one them had ethics..but not it is easier to lie, cheat and steal..Mexico has been 6 mo heaven..that is increasing now.

Cozumeldeb
  6/1/2017 15:54 EST

DeniseLR, interesting question, but little backstory, we began going to MX in 1989, husband, son and many friends were divers..through the years we made many friendships, and enjoyed the community and of course what it had to offer us..As time went we, of course, learned about the inequities in MX, typically described as super rich or poor..over time that has changed and there is a middle class building and it can be seen in many areas of the country. US along with other countries have built factories there, of course cheaper labor, but also quality products. Mexico is NOT China, the majority of their goods are high quality, IMO they are no longer 3rd world..Now to compare US and MX per corruption, seriously I don't see a lot of difference. American corporations own the republican party, take money on the table and under the table,
Twitler is a perfect example..American has been in fast decline since Reagan was President, who worked with corporations to end labor unions, brought us disaster trickle down BS, unemployment rose to 15% and the gap between rich and poor widened..Along came 2nd Bush presidency, as if the 1st wasn't enough, and he, Cheney, Rumsfeld and the rest of the cabinet should have been tried as war criminals, endless war 16 yrs and counting and disaster recession where millions lost their homes, jobs, retirements and then 8 yrs later voted these jackasses back into office and this guy is a sarcastic, psychopath and has the possibility of God's knows what..Exit plans are required in my mind..News flash on my tablet is that is just pulled America from Paris Climate Accord, and this morning announced ALL of his top staff, including Conway, Kushner, Bannon, Moore, Reince etc will be exempt from ethics rules????? WTF..who knew any one them had ethics..but not it is easier to lie, cheat and steal..Mexico has been 6 mo heaven..that is increasing now.

MexJuan1
  6/1/2017 15:58 EST

"Trump is weak, and our rivals have figured it out. They’re walking all over the American president in a way we haven’t seen since at least the days of disco and Space Invaders.

None of this seems to permeate the family circle of Trump’s White House, where, as ever, mythology crowds out any notion of policy or reality."..................................... This is a quote as to how Foreign Leaders perceive the illustrious potus after his "performance " on the World Stage. This perception as he speaks and withdraws from the Paris Accord, now standing with Nicaragua and Syria, visually relenting any leadership role on which the U.S. had any grip! I guess that's what happens when you have six (6) Cabinet Members, including and especially the head of the EPA who are "Climate Change" deniers. He's spent most of his time extolling his "accomplishments" (of which there are no "major" accomplishments, other than a stolen seat Supreme Court justice) and the rest of it lying (can't wait for the fact check on this speech?!) about the facts and figures. It's just the norm to which we have become accustomed. It is shameful and very, very sad...

MexJuan1
  6/1/2017 16:05 EST

Now he just had the "Fake" EPA Head come up to give him a verbal BJ! They have no shame whatsoever..

larryoinpdx
  6/1/2017 17:33 EST

Denise - I think that is a very fair question, however, I don't see a conflict. There will be a cost of living and a cost of doing business where ever you go and whatever you do. Paying the government to keep you safe is the functional equivalent of paying the Mafia to keep you safe except that the Mafia is not self-righteous. Who you pay depends upon who is in power, but the Mafia is far less rapacious for other people's money than the government and less likely to pretend virtue. Different forms of despotism, I agree, but before you object to the equivalency, consider our government's reaction, at all levels, to even peaceful, mass protests and to whistle blowers, and consider the slaughterhouse we created in Iraq in order to steal Iraqi oil.

It appears to me after years of study - political science and then law - that the key difference between the right and left is in their respective approaches to a direct and irreconcilable conflict between property rights and human rights. We know which side of that fight we are on.

Now to the point: As one other post acknowledged, Mexico is developing a middle class, and I hope I have no need to argue that the most profound advances in human rights in the past 2 centuries have occurred through the growth and empowerment of the American middle class and, as a direct result, the empowerment of women, which Christopher Hitchens persuasively argued was the cure for poverty.

So the encouragement of that growth and empowerment in Mexico is a worthy endeavor for someone committed to the left. We can easily and effectively accomplish both by carefully spending our money - that's what we bring to the table.

We should, where ever and when ever we can, buy produce from the man, or the family of the man, who has it, as the New Riders said, growing from the ground. We should buy jewelry, if we choose to, from the man who crafts it. We cannot always buy fish from the fisherman, but we can sometimes, and when we can't we can buy it from someone who does.

I don't suggest an obsession with it, of course - there are times when you simply must go to the supermarket - but when we can, we should stimulate economic growth at that level.

I do not regard this strategy as undue meddling in the affairs of our apparently friendly host government because it causes the rising tide that raises all boats - in that sense, it is omnipartisan.

I bought a ring from the man who crafted it my first full day in Mazatlan. I could see by the way he handled it and handed it to me that it was special to him, and so it is that much more special to me - it is a beautiful thing, and I don't wear jewelry as a rule. That money went to feed his family, not to buy weapons or to secure boundaries against the commonfolk.

MexJuan1
  6/1/2017 18:25 EST

I worked as a Croupier in Las Vegas for 8 years from 1976-1984. That time was the rise and fall of Frank Rosenthal and Anthony Spilotro. (Movie: Casino) I worked for Benny, Jack and Teddy Binion at the Horseshoe Downtown when Benny was, still, alive. I worked for Warren Frattiano at The Hacienda (His brother "Jimmy" wrote "The Last Mafioso" with Ovid DeMaris. Great read!) and I met him too. My father in law, at the time, was a Bag Man who used to disappear in the middle of the night and show up 2-3 days later and never say a word! I worked for five (5) years at The Tropicana that was run by the Kansas City, Cleveland/Youngstown mob. When I returned home I worked the back room, paper games for the Youngstown/Warren area "boys". I was trusted. I knew the game well, didn't steal, had impeccable Math skills, I could handle ppl like that in those arenas and I kept my mouth shut. Their all dead now so I can talk. In general. The guy who ran the Youngstown area games built an entire Casino in an old Steel Mill Office Bldg. basement. Chemin de fer, Craps, Blackjack, Poker Room, Barbut, Full Bar (complete with busty, scantily clad women) and a Complete Gourmet Buffet. While he was in prison he worked in the Prison Hospital as a Surgical Assistant. Very, very smart! My point in telling you all of this is that I knew and came to know these ppl very well and I, somewhat, disagree with your characterization of them and in your comparison of them to Corrupt Politicians. They were the nicest ppl on the face of the Earth. Some of the nicest guys I've ever met. They ALL treated their wives like dirt. ALL had girlfriends. "Goomars". If you crossed them or disrespected them in any way, you had a serious problem. I see, absolutely, no difference between those guys and trump as well as many of the ppl on his Cabinet. Sessions, Miller, Bannon, Price, Pruitt, McGann, Nunes etc. In fact, I'd, much, rather associate myself with "The Boys" than anyone I just mentioned. Just BRUTALITY in two, vastly, different forums. You know the old saying: "you can steal more with a suit and a brief case than you can with a gun".

giershift43
  6/1/2017 18:34 EST

Mexjuan,
I do not have as exciting a background as you, but I did grow up on the Eastside of Cleveland. I agree with you.
I had an Italian Godmother and went to lots of related cultural festivals. You didn't have to be deeply involved, to get the gist. Trump is a criminal. He is narcissistic as many criminals are and does not think he can be caught. He thinks he is smarter than everyone else.

MexJuan1
  6/1/2017 18:47 EST

Yes. Eastside of Cleveland. LoPresti's ( I worked with Sam) and "Blacky" Genarro who was Ernie Shavers Mgr. Ernie was from Warren. "Blacky" robbed him blind... trump is a thug. Kushner is a Slum Lord. Mnuchin got rich kicking good, honest ppl out of their homes for (reported) as little as...27 cents! Pruitt sold Oklahoma down the River being in the pockets of The Fossil Fuel Industry. Pence sold the health of the ppl of Indiana for some of the largest polluting industries in the World. I could go on and on, believe me! America is no longer in the hands of Corrupt Politicians. It and it's unwitting ppl are in the hands of and at the mercy of out and out, bald faced CRIMINALS.

DeniseLR
  6/1/2017 19:19 EST

Interesting. No, Mexico isn't considered 3d world anymore. I haven't been down for a decade but started going in the 50s to Ensenada, various parts of Baja. Tijuana was different then. I don't have a sense of what it is like anymore. Have been all over and driven to Guatemala once. But I can refer to NY Times article that it is one of the most dangerous countries for journalists, and they are as likely to be killed by government officials as organized crime. I wouldn't hesitate to go down if I thought it was worth it. I like to travel out to the boonies, hike in mountains in NM. We have 4wd SUV. Not sure how safe Mexico is these days, seemed safer when everyone was poorer. But very glad you are happy. Now again those of us US cituzens with some brains are embarrassed because this sociopath pulled us out of the Paris Climate Accords.

MexJuan1
  6/1/2017 19:23 EST

Embarrassed? What do you mean? Now the U.S. is in company with Nicaragua and Syria!!! Oh and, Russia. Yes, the rest of the World is laughing out loud at America. No doubt!

MexJuan1
  6/1/2017 19:39 EST

Actually, that was unfair of me. It is, for sure, more embarrassing to be an American than ever before. The World is laughing at Donald Trump and anyone who supports him because they have become the subject and object of ridicule, pathos, stupidity and possess an aversion to the truth. I imagine that, in parts of the World, there is a sympathy for the American ppl who DO NOT support this poor excuse of a man and who are subject to being associated with an incomplete, undesirable president. Maybe that's just wishful thinking?

DeniseLR
  6/1/2017 19:45 EST

And most major corporations don't seem to support him on this. Just his most rabid followers, who I doubt are economists. F... him!

Iturbide
  6/1/2017 19:50 EST

MexJuan ; Most Canadians know that majority of Americans ( via popular vote) are good folks, as I have witnessed in Mexico. As a former Prez said ' Right makes might', not the other way around.
We wish the best for those majority of Americans who voted for 'Right makes might:

DeniseLR
  6/1/2017 20:19 EST

Thanks (not Juan). Hopefully enough people who "didn't like either candidate" will get their heads out of their rears and mobilize so we will have a huge majority and we can mitigate the damage thus creep has done.

MexJuan1
  6/1/2017 20:48 EST

Yes, I know. I corrected my original post as I realized it's harsh tone. I admire the Canadians and your Country. I was reading, this morning, about the Country's Investment Plan (like our Social Security) and how it's run by PROFESSIONALS and NOT POLITICIANS. I don't know anything about it specifically but, I was impressed.

Iturbide
  6/1/2017 21:01 EST

Gracias Mexjuan; Many ( mostly democrats) in the U.S. have fought for Universal Health Care; Ted Kennedy for e.g. Practically ALL of the democratic Western World ( Mexico included) has some version) of universal health care, a central Govt. responsibility to its citizenry. Baffles the rest of the world, that the alleged "most powerful nation" denies this to the most vulnerable

MexJuan1
  6/1/2017 21:11 EST

It's not "baffling" at all really. America is and, pretty much, always has been a Capitalistic Dictatorship. More now than ever and heading towards a Totalitarian Regime with the Billionaires ruling. "Money talks, BS walks". I heard on PBS Radio today that the U.S. was the 36th ranked country for a child growing up. Alleged is right!

Ramzfan
  6/5/2017 11:39 EST

Just wondering how our Limey friends are enjoying their "open borders" approach to immigration....?

Pedroal
  6/5/2017 15:03 EST

Probably not enjoying it. Most of our terrorism is more of the home grown variety, and combined with all the mass shootings here, I imagine much bigger problem, in terms of fatalities, in US so far. Anyway, I'm appreciative of the interest this thread has garnered (close to 2000 posts) but have noticed very few new contributors. Seems limited to a couple of nice women and a couple of men who I think of as "Good Ol'... (fill in the blank),' and "You Should Not Respond!' So I'm moving on. Wish all of you well, but definitely not AO. He has to go!

DeniseLR
  6/5/2017 15:34 EST

Whoops! Last post was mine. Pedro's account still logged in on android. Noticed mistake but didn't worry as a number of his comments have been ignored and not posted. Anyway, sentiments are mine and should not be attributed to Pedro.
Peace, Denise.

larryoinpdx
  6/5/2017 16:30 EST

Ramzfan, Why don't you write to them and ask?

Ramzfan
  6/5/2017 23:00 EST

Isn't it funny that when Trump said during his campaign that he would pay someone's fine for clashing with a protester, the libbies all cried that he was "promoting violence", but when Kathy Griffith holds up a mock bloody severed head of the president, the libs see nothing wrong with it...? I guess I'm just being picky....

lmontgom
  6/5/2017 23:15 EST

A president is not the same as a TV entertainer (though that is what Trump is and was, he was elected president). Also, can you define "lib" and name some and provide the direct quotation and source of said "lib" "seeing nothing wrong with" Griffith's action.

lmontgom
  6/5/2017 23:15 EST

A president is not the same as a TV entertainer (though that is what Trump is and was, he was elected president). Also, can you define "lib" and name some and provide the direct quotation and source of said "lib" "seeing nothing wrong with" Griffith's action.

lmontgom
  6/5/2017 23:17 EST

Do you disagree that Trump encouraged violence? Can you define "lib" and name one or more, along with his/her direct quotations that he/she "saw nothing wrong with" Griffith's action?

larryoinpdx
  6/6/2017 02:30 EST

Ramzfan, you get this week's reward for Reactionary False Equivalency! The fact that the vast and profound difference is lost on you is disappointing,to tell you the truth - I thought you were better than this!

It's this simple: Kathy Griffith is not running for office; moreover, the office she is not running for is not the most single most powerful political position on the planet - try to absorb that into that mass of bone and gristle you like to think of as a brain.

What if it wasn't Kathy, what if it was Ozzie? Then you wouldn't think a thing about it - you would know it was part of his schtik. Same with her.

Trump gets people hurt - I live in Portland and have been to the memorials. Can you point at any memorials for people Kathy Griffith has caused to be hurt or killed?

How stupid do you have to be to have written that?

giershift43
  6/6/2017 08:22 EST

If you are talking to Ramz, don't bother. He just likes insulting people for attention. His arguments are similar to a shock jock radio show host.

Cozumeldeb
  6/6/2017 08:36 EST

Ramzfan, Kathy Griffen did a stupid thing and apologized for it v 8+ yrs of lies, hate, racism from the right, hanging Pres. Obama, burning in effigy, and let's not forget the yrs of birthism BS from Twitler, no apologies. Hate is ugly and the people that participate end up destroying themselves..

lmontgom
  6/6/2017 09:43 EST

Thank you, cozumeldeb. Facts do exist, and postings based on facts have greater impact than those of folks venting their spleen on websites. The crude language of some posters is embarrassing because it marks them immediately as unworthy of the time it takes to read them.

Ramzfan
  6/6/2017 09:49 EST

Lmontgom (& others) it's amazing how fast you libbies can make excuses for an entertainer vs a candidate. What is a "lib"? A lib is someone who wants to be taken care of by someone else vs taking care of themselves. Name one...? How about Jim Carey...?

Ramzfan
  6/6/2017 09:54 EST

Jim Carrey said he saw nothing wrong with what Kathy did and said "I think she should have dangled a severed limb of his also!"

Ramzfan
  6/6/2017 11:14 EST

Deb, do you think it's OK to slap someone across the face and then say "I'm sorry?" It's not! That's the trouble with all of the world today...everyone thinks a simple apology makes everything hunky dory and we should all just forgive & forget. I'm one of the first to forgive, but I never forget. Some things should never be said or done, but once they are, a simple apology doesn't make them all right again!

giershift43
  6/6/2017 12:04 EST

Ramzfan is the self appointed expert on what is wrong with the world today..

Ramzfan
  6/6/2017 14:03 EST

Not an "expert" Gier, but unlike you and some of your libbie friends, I keep an open mind as to what's going on in the world. I not only watch Fox, but I also watch CNN. I not only read my local paper, but I subscribe to the WSJ & LA Times. I try to be fair & balanced in my assessment of the news. Lately though, I see nothing but hate coming out of the left. Not good if you plan on retaking the White House in 2024...!

larryoinpdx
  6/6/2017 14:22 EST

Expert? He is an imbecile!

lmontgom
  6/6/2017 14:32 EST

Ramzfan, that you read widely is admirable and essential in today's polarized world. Speaking only for myself, if you were to use credible facts/information to make your points instead of throwing insults at those you consider to disagree with you, your postings wouldn't seem so angry. I happened onto this thread a day ago because the subject interests me, so I don't know what you have posted except in the last two days. However, I do not know what your views on today's politics are, nor have I seen anything in your postings that I consider to be facts. I would like to know what you believe and on what basis your formed those beliefs.

lmontgom
  6/6/2017 14:32 EST

Ramzfan, that you read widely is admirable and essential in today's polarized world. Speaking only for myself, if you were to use credible facts/information to make your points instead of throwing insults at those you consider to disagree with you, your postings wouldn't seem so angry. I happened onto this thread a day ago because the subject interests me, so I don't know what you have posted except in the last two days. However, I do not know what your views on today's politics are, nor have I seen anything in your postings that I consider to be facts. I would like to know what you believe and on what basis your formed those beliefs.

Ramzfan
  6/6/2017 15:08 EST

Lmontgom: "angry?" "Insults?" I'm sorry, but if you've only been reading this for two days, I just went back and looked...I haven't said anything "angry" or "insulting" to anyone. Perhaps you need to awaken your inner being to conversations outside of your own family circle. My political views are those of the vast majority who are looking for change and that's why we elected Donald Trump. Maybe he'll give us what we're looking for and maybe not. If he doesn't, we'll elect someone else. But I truly believe that this is our best chance to turn this country around, and those that can't see that, or continue to hold onto the reins of a crooked runaway, are living in a world that no longer exists.

MexJuan1
  6/6/2017 15:17 EST

That theme, which, has been prevalent all along will continue as such. Do what you like but, my advice would be not to waste your, valuable, time. You'll find that to be true in short order anyway... ;-) just trying to save you some time.

giershift43
  6/6/2017 15:27 EST

You continue to assert you know the most and denigrate those who do not agree with you. Can it what you want.

Ramzfan
  6/6/2017 15:35 EST

Gier, I don't denigrate anyone...that is only your personsal feelings showing through. Get some self-esteem Gier...life isn't all bad...!

larryoinpdx
  6/6/2017 15:51 EST

Ramzfan, I don't know whether you are ignorant or think the rest of us are, but Donald Trump did not receive a majority of the votes cast in the last election by a factor of more than 3 million, and that was running against the worst candidate the Democrats have fielded since her husband, who was really a moderate Republican. For you to claim a "vast majority" is laughable.

lmontgom
  6/6/2017 15:56 EST

Ram: That fits no definition I have ever heard of. It isn't, in fact, a definition. I can see now why others suggest not bothering to comment on your ramblings. You spelled Carrey right the first time; he is a Canadian slapstick comedian. He, like Griffith, has nothing to do with US government policy. If you want a better understanding of the classical oppositions, liberals vs conservatives, take a look at this essay. http://www.goodmaninstitute.org/how-we-think/classical-liberalism-vs-modern-liberalism-and-modern-conservatism/

lmontgom
  6/6/2017 15:57 EST

Ram: That fits no definition I have ever heard of. It isn't, in fact, a definition. I can see now why others suggest not bothering to comment on your ramblings. You spelled Carrey right the first time; he is a Canadian slapstick comedian. He, like Griffith, has nothing to do with US government policy. If you want a better understanding of the classical oppositions, liberals vs conservatives, take a look at this essay. http://www.goodmaninstitute.org/how-we-think/classical-liberalism-vs-modern-liberalism-and-modern-conservatism/

Ramzfan
  6/6/2017 15:58 EST

Excuse me...the vast majority of electoral votes.
How's that...?

Ramzfan
  6/6/2017 15:58 EST

Excuse me...the vast majority of electoral votes.
How's that...?

lmontgom
  6/6/2017 15:58 EST

Ram: That fits no definition I have ever heard of. It isn't, in fact, a definition. I can see now why others suggest not bothering to comment on your ramblings. You spelled Carrey right the first time; he is a Canadian slapstick comedian. He, like Griffith, has nothing to do with US government policy. If you want a better understanding of the classical oppositions, liberals vs conservatives, take a look at this essay. http://www.goodmaninstitute.org/how-we-think/classical-liberalism-vs-modern-liberalism-and-modern-conservatism/

Ramzfan
  6/6/2017 16:06 EST

Hey, you guys need to learn, you only have to hit the "post" button ONE TIME...it will work, honest...!

Ramzfan
  6/6/2017 16:26 EST

Imontgom...once again you're making excuses for those that wish violence on our sitting president. Who cares if they're Canadians...? They make their money in America! They should respect this country and the people that run it. If not, stay the f*ck out! (And I can't help that my iPhone changes the spelling now & then) I'll have to read your essay later...when I get on a computer. Too difficult to copy an address with an iPhone. Thanks.

larryoinpdx
  6/6/2017 16:35 EST

Ramzfan, you did not say anything, nor did I, about "electoral votes." You wrote: "My political views are those of the vast majority who are looking for change and that's why we elected Donald Trump."

Electors don't have "views" - they are committed or not, depending on state law. You claimed the fellowship of the "vast majority" of *voters * not electors, and now I see you are not even honest enough to own your own words. Surely even someone as benighted as you can see how utterly discredited you are.

MexJuan1
  6/6/2017 16:43 EST

Hate to say I told you so but,... And as far as facts and opinions go, he's, pretty much, molded by Conspiracy Theories, Fox, Alex Jones, Breitbart, Levin etc. Oh and, the King Liar himself! I mean, he's still a "Birther"! It's all OK though. Thursday, the walks start tumbling down for all of them...

Ramzfan
  6/6/2017 16:54 EST

Hey Larry, I said "excuse me" that's the same as an apology from Kathy Griffith, isn't it...?

Ramzfan
  6/6/2017 16:57 EST

Hahaha...Juanita, you're not even worth my time...hahahahaha...!

larryoinpdx
  6/6/2017 17:25 EST

No, Ram, I don't think it is. Now, if you had said "I was wrong" I think you would be getting somewhere.

Ramzfan
  6/6/2017 17:35 EST

Ok Larry, I was wrong...how's that? I'm sorry, I apologize, I beg your forgiveness...how'm I doin?

larryoinpdx
  6/6/2017 17:46 EST

I was wrong is completely sufficient. Thank you.

larryoinpdx
  6/6/2017 18:12 EST

And I was wrong as well, Ram, for name-calling. I regret that - my only excuse is that I am near the end of the apparently last legal battle of a 50 year career and my knives are out. I will try to keep it non-personal in the future regardless of how much we disagree.

giershift43
  6/6/2017 18:34 EST

Instead a coherent argument, he calls names. You libbies?? Whatever that is supposed to mean, except that he is a follower of Faux news. They insult anyone that does not follow the party line. Facts are irrelevant to them and Ramzfan.

giershift43
  6/6/2017 18:35 EST

Instead a coherent argument, he calls names. You libbies?? Whatever that is supposed to mean, except that he is a follower of Faux news. They insult anyone that does not follow the party line. Facts are irrelevant to them and Ramzfan.

giershift43
  6/6/2017 18:35 EST

Instead a coherent argument, he calls names. You libbies?? Whatever that is supposed to mean, except that he is a follower of Faux news. They insult anyone that does not follow the party line. Facts are irrelevant to them and Ramzfan.

MexJuan1
  6/6/2017 18:38 EST

That's OK, really! The "Nut Job" (you see where he gets it from) is going to put a huge chink in his tin foil armour on Thursday.

giershift43
  6/6/2017 18:44 EST

He needs attention and does not care if it is negative. He is not about trying to create understand nor exchange information, but to create chaos.

MexJuan1
  6/6/2017 18:46 EST

Sounds a lot like.....???

giershift43
  6/6/2017 18:51 EST

Ramz is not about presenting an argument. He is about being argumentative and demeaning to others.

lmontgom
  6/6/2017 19:16 EST

It appears that Ramz and maybe a couple of other people have accepted that name-calling and ad hominem lobs (ad hominem [(ad hom-uh-nem, ad hom-uh-nuhm)] A Latin expression meaning “to the man.” An ad hominem argument is one that relies on personal attacks rather than reason or substance) appear juvenile and take us nowhere. The name of this thread -- effects of policies of new administration on lives of expats in Mexico -- is one that could draw substantive comments and discussion. So let's just do it! The effect I've seen most often is Mexicans' expressing their dismay that Trump would attack them without knowing them. He appears to the ones who've commented to me as a madman. That the peso dropped hurt them every day. Fortunately, it has recovered to the Trump-election-day level and we can hope it doesn't drop again. Other than that, I have made more efforts to tell people in the US positive things about living here, the tenderness and sweetness of many people, how hard they work for little money, how beautiful the children are. I am sure that those of you who have lived her longer can relate more substantive ways Trump's ascension has affected you. I hope you will all continue to follow what's happening in the US states (and counties and cities) and not only vote but help find good candidates for office. If we want a democracy, we have to act democratically (be informed, b e active).

Ramzfan
  6/6/2017 19:26 EST

That was nice Larry, thanks. I believe we could get along, even if we disagree on things. I'm always interested on WHY people disagree with each other...what makes us see things one-sidedly?

Ramzfan
  6/6/2017 19:34 EST

Sorry Gier, I didn't realize that calling you a "Libbie" was calling names. I thought you guys kind of liked that handle. You can call me any of those types of things (faux news junkie, Trump-lover, Repub, etc.) it doesn't bother me. What I hate to see are the hate-names like idiot or a**hole...there's no place for them on here. Like I say, I apologize if that bothers you. I won't refer to you as a lib or a Dem anymore.

MexJuan1
  6/6/2017 19:59 EST

Are you talking about trump or ramz? Either way, you're correct on all counts.

lmontgom
  6/6/2017 20:22 EST

Thanks, Ramz. Seems to me this conversation is going in a positive direction. Change can be revitalizing. Let's all work together to bring that about.

lmontgom
  6/6/2017 20:22 EST

Thanks, Ramz. Seems to me this conversation is going in a positive direction. Change can be revitalizing. Let's all work together to bring that about.

Iturbide
  6/6/2017 21:07 EST

Pattern of Ram**** posts fits one of the following;
1) More alarmingly, an imposter posted fed by Russian hackers, with a fake ID trying to plant fake news to influence readers
2) A misinformed lost soul in bad need of attention
In either case, IMO, his(or here) posts should be ignored . Do not be baited. Do not respond

Ramzfan
  6/6/2017 22:58 EST

Do you see what I mean lmontgom...? Some of these people are too far gone....I have tried several times to speak nice to them, but they think that unless someone is locked into their channel, that they must be a communist. No wait, I think they LIKE communism. At any rate, we can talk. If they want to join in without sniping, they're welcome.

lmontgom
  6/6/2017 23:02 EST

Ramz: Just stick to what you believe; avoid distractions. Tell me, what effect has Trump's election had on your live in Mexico?

MexJuan1
  6/6/2017 23:11 EST

You can talk to this .!..fascist...

larryoinpdx
  6/7/2017 00:53 EST

Juan, I didn't get the impression that he was a fascist - more of an ordinary reactionary as near as I can tell. And you have to be able to talk to anyone - even the fascists. Mostly they think they are traditional conservatives.

larryoinpdx
  6/7/2017 00:57 EST

Let me hasten to add that I do not use "reactionary" as a pejorative; rather, I think it is an identifiable piece of political ground and I think Ramzfan has it staked out - stripped of the rhetoric, his politics, while they are minority politics, are not all that unusual.

MexJuan1
  6/7/2017 05:07 EST

Reactionary? Like the man-child president of the united states? There is, really, nothing to talk about! That's why I've been absent from the discussion lately. Even if "the Russia thing" turns out to be nothing (highly doubtful) there is a sleazy, common criminal who possesses the intellect of a dumbed down, hormonal adolescent with an ultra super sized ego, an unmatched narcissism, the incoherent vocabulary of an alien and an absence of salient policy in the WH who has no business being there! Frankly, I'm tired of "talking" about it, attempting to reason with unreasonable ppl who have taken leave of all common decency and their senses and dealing with the obvious abhoration that has resulted from ppl being disillusioned. Going from disillusional to delusional is less of a step than I ever thought possible. Defending lying, cheating, unethical behavior is not a political position of any type of animal. Defending ridiculous nonsensical, unethical and immoral policy is not a political position. The U.S. and the World are under attack by these precedent factors and the hatred of nationalist (Bannon), White Supremacist (Miller, Sessions,trump) criminal (Kushner, Mnuchin, Pruitt, Price, McGann, frankly, the list is long and undistinguished) elements guiding a blithering idiot to destroy ppl and the fabric of normalcy. I've held little to no countenance for politicians in my lifetime and have known criminals first hand. This poor excuse of a man/person, nothing more than an immoral, unethical and criminal businessman/reality tv star and the crooked cronies who have invaded our society at the highest level are bent on destruction of democracy, decency and common sense all in the name of self serving enrichment. "Talk is cheap", I can do nothing about this but hope against hope that, somehow, good overcomes evil in a David vs. Goliath battle that will decide the fate of this planet. Watch and hope is all I can do and as I've said before, I'm happy to have lived when and as I did and happier to be an old man in a time when all that is good is being trampled like yesterday's trash. I'm through talking...

giershift43
  6/7/2017 05:56 EST

So more personal attacks against me and more put downs . ypur response proves my point.

Cozumeldeb
  6/7/2017 07:14 EST

MexJuan1, sadly very well said..and many of your points are mine as well, reason I've been absent for awhile..Let us know where online u go, enjoy your insight.

Ramzfan
  6/7/2017 10:49 EST

Lmontgom, I live in Reno, NV. I have not had the pleasure of being in Mexico since Trump was elected. I used to live down there for 3 to 6 months every year. We spent quite a bit of time in Mazatlan but more recently, we discovered Ajijic & the Lake Chapala area. We now prefer that. We are raising a grandson & due to some family issues, we have not been able to visit this year. I stay in touch with friends down there though, and find that their input is not much different than what it is here. They don't blame Trump for the devaluation of the Peso. They do blame him for all of the returning immigrants. Most of the criticism comes from the Canadians I notice. I have some very good friends in Guadalajara who are Mexicans. They feel that the new immigration rules are just tit for tat...they say it's about time that America started doing exactly what Mexico does. However, they don't want the bad ones back. I hope to be able to get back down there later in the year. Going to Ireland/Scotland for the month of August. Should be interesting to see how they feel about Trump. Cheers.

Pedroal
  6/7/2017 11:14 EST

Thank you. Actually, I think since things are so bad there is more to talk about than ever. Enjoyed some of the dialogue the last few days. But can't imagine how people who regularly watch CNN and read NYT can be so unbelievably unwilling to actually discuss issues intelligently/objectively and instead consistently resort to subtle and overt classic internet bullying.
I like KG so I hope she gets a pass. I guarantee there were a lot of offensive Nixon cartoons during the Vietnam era. I also can't stand O'Reilly but could live with his coming back at some point. Wonder how KG will be treated if Trump leaves office in disgrace.

larryoinpdx
  6/7/2017 11:44 EST

Juan - Trump is not a reactionary - Trump is everything you said and worse. I don't see him as political, as he knows not even the first thing about politics, history or civics - he is simply an amoral opportunist who is in way over his head.

It is his fan base that is reactionary - They are reacting primarily to what was to them the worst historical event since the loss of the Civil War: A black man inhabiting the White House. They couldn't see past that, although Obama was no friend of progressivism.

Surely you can see that the rank and file of Trump's supporters, *because* there is not a brain cell working among them so they embrace Fox News lies, are Trump's worst victims - they actually thought he would do something to benefit the working class, although it was apparent to everyone else that he is a pathological liar and a grifter. Trump appeals to the darkest, most reprehensible aspects of Americanism - racism, alienation, anti-intellectualism and nativism to name a few.

And now they are being bitten in the ass for rejecting even the most common, basic decencies of Western civilization. As for the politicians - well - even 20 years ago, can you imagine the party of Reagan getting on the bandwagon with an exposed Russian stooge?

Finally, I weary of trying to reason with them as well, and have often resorted to ridicule, which at least causes them some discomfort. Sometimes.

I have been fighting this battle for 50 years now, in the courts and in the law library, and I look forward to spending some low-stress time in the sun with colors and smiling faces all around and with music in the air.

But I have no intention of backing away from the fight or surrendering one inch of political ground to the people you have so aptly and acurately described. They are vermin, and they must not, to my way of thinking, be permitted to prevail.

Pedroal
  6/7/2017 14:00 EST

Thank you. Actually, I think since things are so bad there is more to talk about than ever. Enjoyed some of the dialogue the last few days. But can't imagine how people who regularly watch CNN and read NYT can be so unbelievably unwilling to actually discuss issues intelligently/objectively and instead consistently resort to subtle and overt classic internet bullying.
I like KG so I hope she gets a pass. I guarantee there were a lot of offensive Nixon cartoons during the Vietnam era. I also can't stand O'Reilly but could live with his coming back at some point. Wonder how KG will be treated if Trump leaves office in disgrace.

Pedroal
  6/7/2017 16:11 EST

Larry, lmontgom, found your posts interesting, inspiring. I think the fascination with people like Ramzfan lies in the fact that we now know, given the results of the election, there are a lot of people like him out there and, to the extent they appear to be factually deprived, we feel the possibility exists of being able to reach them. And then recoil in horror to see arguing with them is like arguing about religion with a fanatic. Seems hopeless, but there are some that can be reached. Obama did win twice, despite his lack of a birth certificate. (Joke.)

larryoinpdx
  6/7/2017 20:47 EST

Pedroal, I am grateful for the compliment and that anyone found some wheat in the stems and seeds of what I like to think of as my drollery.

We already knew the results of "conservative" economic policies - we knew about them after 2008 and after Reagan. It's not policy they care about it seems to me - it's attitude. And up until now, they have not cared about what Trump did, only about what he said.

We saw the same phenomenon with George W. Bush - mostly, it appears, what they resonate best with is bellicosity and cruelty, the results of which they somehow regard as their victims' just desserts.

lmontgom
  6/7/2017 23:45 EST

I am truly interested in the topic and hope that by addressing it, we can model behavior that others might follow. No, we can't reach everyone, but some people like Ramz have wanted to believe that "change" might benefit them and others. That they chose a bully with long history of corruption (failing to pay people who do jobs for you is corruption, as is using a tax-exempt foundation to make money, etc.) is unfortunate and, to some extent, the goal of Fox news. But I think we have demonstrated that we're interested in how the Trump fiasco has affected us in Mexico and that the topic is valid.

MexJuan1
  6/8/2017 00:17 EST

The "trump effect" for ex pats in Mexico, especially U.S. Expats, will be felt, economically, as inflation and unemployment rise in both countries and interest rates rise in the U.S. The unrealistic GDP he's promised (like everything else!) will never be realized. Beside the proposed budget being severely flawed. Possibly, the most profound issue facing U.S. Expats will be the election of a Pro-Mexico, Nationalist Manuel Louis Obrador who carries with him an anti-trump, anti-American sentiment and similar thinking candidates to take leadership in Mexican States. I know that American retirees and expats are a cogent factor in the Mexican economy but this guy, like trump, is unpredictable. He could, possibly, change the feelings of a large portion of the country towards us?! Certainly could take a stance in which Govt. Officials look less kindly towards us in many instances. Residency. Ownership of property. Length of Tourist Visa stays, etc.

lmontgom
  6/8/2017 00:27 EST

Juan, how much do you know about Obrador? I haven't followed the campaign but one guy who lunches where I often eat knew him when he was mayor in CDMX. He said Obrador demanded that all suppliers to the city give either 10% or 20% of their 'contract' with the city to his campaign. (I have read that a portion of the millions that ex-gov Duarte of Veracruz stole went to the PRI candidates, now President Pena Nieto's campaign.) But I haven't read enough about Obrador to know his posture on US relations and we expats. I'd like to know more specifics. And I keep wishing for
another Cardenas.

MexJuan1
  6/8/2017 00:36 EST

As you, already, seem to know, he's, extremely corrupt. His rise back to the top of the heap has been fueled by his anti-trump, anti-American rhetoric and Nationalistic position. Lot of that going around in North America... I know he's installing leaders in some states already but, even though I've read quite a bit about him, I've seen nothing about how he views expats in general or, specifically, U.S. Expats? Frankly, I'm, slightly, terrified to find out!

giershift43
  6/8/2017 07:45 EST

Well written .

Ramzfan
  6/8/2017 10:39 EST

Lmontgom, I find it difficult to "stay on subject" as you suggested, when even you are throwing snipes at my candidate. I can rebutt everything that you say about him and throw in plenty more about your failed candidate, but then we're not staying on subject, are we...?

Ramzfan
  6/8/2017 10:40 EST

Lmontgom, I find it difficult to "stay on subject" as you suggested, when even you are throwing snipes at my candidate. I can rebutt everything that you say about him and throw in plenty more about your failed candidate, but then we're not staying on subject, are we...?

Pedroal
  6/8/2017 11:46 EST

I went to a little glasses repair shop yesterday, and the senior gentleman working there was in a panic. He had been spending a lot of time on the internet and was talking about civilization collapsing within the year, China's building of artificial cities, and the collapse of the $ (he thought it had collapsed already). I don't know if political operatives are disseminating misinformation (probably) but this stuff is like a computer virus and it spreads. Everyone needs to be very careful about what and who they listen to. Ramzfan, by the way, has said almost nothing of consequence on this site, unless you include his assertion that Obama is not a US citizen. Now that there appear to be some new people he is moderating his tone and 'working' them. Same old stuff. Now, in terms of why we take sides. Don't many people have some underlying biases, not always rational, and tend to select competing facts to support those biases? I think that is part of it. Hard to fight that. I have recently struggled with new ideas and facts which appear to be true but go many things I believe in. Like the problem many have reconciling science and religion. Not saying that's the whole answer, but maybe part of it?

Pedroal
  6/8/2017 19:32 EST

Wonder if any 'Watching Parties' in Mexico for Comey testimony. CBS evening news had them popping up all over the country. Not enough but hopefully a good start.

Pedroal
  6/8/2017 19:48 EST

Wonder if any 'Watching Parties' in Mexico for Comey testimony. CBS evening news had them popping up all over the country. Not enough but hopefully a good start.

Ramzfan
  6/8/2017 22:42 EST

What's to watch...? All that it's proving is that Trump told the TRUTH....!

larryoinpdx
  6/8/2017 23:49 EST

I think it will take a few days, or maybe even a few weeks, for the implications to become apparent and some never will - there is always more going on behind the curtain than in front of the audience. My sincere hope is that the noose is closing slowly around Trump's pudgy neck, but I don't like the idea of Pres. Pence one bit better. I saw a headline on Raw Story that Trump supporters believe that *neither* Trump nor Comey lied - it's all a matter of media distortion of the truth.

lmontgom
  6/9/2017 00:09 EST

The history of the two principals means a lot. The best predictor of future action is past behavior. How Republicans behave as the investigations continue will be key. Impeachment is a political process run by the House of Representatives. With the unpredictability of Trump, provoked in part by his unhappiness in Washington, anything is possible. Crazy times! I wonder if we'll get leaks from the closed-door testimony.

larryoinpdx
  6/9/2017 01:53 EST

Ram, Comey said that Trump lied in 3-5 significant particulars and hinted at a couple more!

MexJuan1
  6/9/2017 06:52 EST

potus lies, on average, 3-5 times a day. potus is a liar and bully pulpit criminal. Yesterday, I learned several things that I, already, knew. (1)The potus is a liar and a criminal. He delights in skirting the law and putting himself above it. (2)Whenever a good person is testifying about a criminal act, that good person is put on trial and vilified. (3)Trotting out the "personal", $1,500/hr, sleazy, smarmy, liar of a lawyer who gave a, purely, FICTIONAL ACCOUNT of what happened yesterday is a sign that the ppl around the criminal are getting ready to defend against Impeachment. (4)The current potus and administration could care less whether Russia hacked the U.S. election, are more than likely complicit in the act and will, probably, assist them in the future in doing so in other countries elections. (5)John McCain is becoming senile and needs to resign! Jesus Christ, what the hell was that and where the hell was he?! and (6)Conservatives/Republicans, whatever you want to call the neocon, fascist, pseudo religious hypocrites are destroying/ruining America and the World. If I were one of them, I could say "God help us all" but, I'm not. I'm an Aetheist and truthful in what I say and believe. To date, there is no help or hope and "the monkeys are running the Zoo"...

MexJuan1
  6/9/2017 07:09 EST

Read "Mexico may soon elect a leftist president — thanks to Trump" May 2017, Miami Herald to get more insight into Manuel Luis Obrador. The comparisons of him to Hugo Chavez are chilling to me and should be to every U.S. Expat. As well as his, reported, relationships to Chavez and Fidel Castro. U.S. Expats beware of the effect the criminal potus could/might/will have on your lives in Mexico. Stay informed. Don't be complacent or delusional in times like these...

Ramzfan
  6/9/2017 10:03 EST

No Juan, the monkeys aren't running the zoo...we voted them out of office 6 months ago....!

larryoinpdx
  6/9/2017 11:29 EST

You are wrong again, Ramzfan - "we" did not vote *anyone* out of office. What happened was that the electoral college elected a president who received a minority of the popular votes by a significant margin. You continue to pretend that Trump has some kind of mandate and, worse, that his presidency is legitimate. He knows it isn't - why don't you?

Ramzfan
  6/9/2017 12:41 EST

No Larry, that's where YOU'RE wrong...WE voted our President into office. Those of us that are true Americans, whether you actually voted for Trump or not, accept him as OUR PRESIDENT. I had to accept Obama, even though I didn't care for him. It doesn't matter how the vote was tallied. Those who use that as an excuse for their hatred and bigotry are just doing mental masterbation. Time to grow up and accept the fact that you lost.

Cozumeldeb
  6/9/2017 14:37 EST

Larryoinpdx, agree with u..I just hope it moves fast, Twitler would no doubt take us to war to divert attention.

larryoinpdx
  6/9/2017 17:34 EST

You bet he would Cozumeldeb.

Pedroal
  6/9/2017 18:35 EST

I think (hope) Pence at least is saner and more responsive to political pressure and sensitive to changing feelings of electorate (like the Republicans in California who work with J.B.) Trump didn't win because people woke up to what Obama was doing. His popularity is still high while Trump's is around 35%. He won because enough people became disillusioned with Hillary.
On another topic I have been starting to check to see how the US compares to Mexico in wealth, income and income dostribution (gini coefficient). One thing that surprised me was an article on Fortune asserting that US was both wealthiest country by far, which 46% of world's wealth about (not surprising,) but also now the country with greatest inequality of wealth distribution (knew it was high but not that high). Scary.
Please people, Don't freak out and become prisoners of the moment. No one knows what is coming next. Miracles have happened... not meant as religious proselytization. (Smiley face should here.)

Pedroal
  6/9/2017 18:42 EST

And what ever happened to the GD Wall, by the way?

giershift43
  6/9/2017 20:21 EST

The American people will have to pay for it if they want it. It is not going to solve all the problems the proponents say it will.

Ramzfan
  6/9/2017 21:09 EST

Nothing will solve ALL the problems...you have to begin somewhere and this is a good start. Deporting the ones who commit crimes (just like Mexico does) is another big step.

flyingriki
  6/10/2017 12:48 EST

"What happened was that the electoral college elected a president who received a minority of the popular votes by a significant margin."

This "significant margin" was in two cities. TWO CITIES! I don't want my country run by the voters in 2 left wing wacky doodle cities.

Pedroal
  6/10/2017 13:08 EST

Which two cities?
From;
Inspiring ,"Wackie Doodle".

larryoinpdx
  6/10/2017 13:11 EST

Instead, flyingriki, I guess you would prefer having your country run by a tin-pot, mountebank tyrant who cons working people into voting for him and then sells them out while he connives with his counterpart in Russia, his good friend the KGB murderer. Instead of the will of the majority, you prefer to get this reprehensible thief into office by any means possible. Instead of someone running the country who actually knows what they are doing, you prefer this shallow, narcissistic sociopath to scams charities to take the food out of the hungry mouths of starving children so he can live an opulent lifestyle on other peoples' money.

You and people like you will be the death of democracy *and* of the United States of America - you are all traitors!

Pedroal
  6/10/2017 13:16 EST

Pretty much right on Larry, sadly.

lmontgom
  6/10/2017 13:50 EST

riki:
Please cite your sources; you put quotation marks on a sentence ("What happened was that the electoral college elected a president who received a minority of the popular votes by a significant margin.") but failed to give the source. Also, the terms used are confusing: "received a minority of the popular votes by a significant margin." ?Minority by a significant margin? Makes no sense. Then you wrote: "This "significant margin" was in two cities. TWO CITIES! I don't want my country run by the voters in 2 left wing wacky doodle cities. " That contrasts with this source, Forbes, hardly a left-wing, wacky-doodle publication: "This election has been rife with paradoxes, chief among them the discrepancy between the popular vote, which Hillary Clinton won by 2.8 million votes, and the electoral college, where Trump won 304-227. Despite the seeming magnitude of the latter, Cook Political Report has shown that just three counties, representing 77,759 voters in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan, determined the outcome of the election."
I had hoped that the decline in name-calling and fact-free, citation-free postings would continue, but this thread seems to have decayed in the opposite direction. I have no interest in reading trash (fact-free, opinion-riddled blatherings). I welcome riki's comments on the facts in my posting and citations related to his or counter views.

MexJuan1
  6/10/2017 13:57 EST

You, simply, can't confuse them with facts or the truth! The alternative universe created for and by them won't allow it...

giershift43
  6/10/2017 14:35 EST

Time for the electoral college to go.

Ramzfan
  6/10/2017 14:36 EST

It's all in how you spin it....don't forget Riki, that the ONLY REASON he lost the "popular vote" was because of the wackos in California...!

giershift43
  6/10/2017 14:37 EST

I don't care. The electoral college simply abridges democracy. Time for it to go.

Cozumeldeb
  6/10/2017 16:44 EST

Good point, flyingriki, Electoral college was formed for to assure we never ended up with a jackass like Trump..They did not follow the rules. Making it worse the Russia involvement was known in the spring, all of America should have been informed. America media is as corrupt as Russia's.

Ramzfan
  6/10/2017 19:16 EST

You gotta love it...when the Repub were calling for the end of the electoral college, the Dems were completely against it. Now that the libs are calling for it, it's the worst thing since terrorism...! You people are NUTS! This is crazier than you calling for Comey's firing, then when he gets fired, you claim a conspiracy...! Hahahahaha...!

Ramzfan
  6/10/2017 19:16 EST

You gotta love it...when the Repub were calling for the end of the electoral college, the Dems were completely against it. Now that the libs are calling for it, it's the worst thing since terrorism...! You people are NUTS! This is crazier than you calling for Comey's firing, then when he gets fired, you claim a conspiracy...! Hahahahaha...!

Pedroal
  6/10/2017 21:27 EST

Some people want to keep the electoral college, some don't. Everyone doesn't think the same, dems or otherwise. Try tightening some of those screws upstairs and looking at things a little more closely. By the way, there are 30 million plus "wacky doodles" in California, about the tenth largest global economy and almost a tenth of country's population. Get a clue.

Ramzfan
  6/10/2017 22:50 EST

Exactly Pedro, "everyone doesn't think the same." A few turns on your screws wouldn't hurt either. Oh, and by the way, that's one of the reasons California's broke too.

Pedroal
  6/13/2017 18:32 EST

For my own amusement, I did some research comparing various standard of living measurements of US and Mexico. For the Human Development Index, incorporating metrics for life expectancy, education and per capita income US and Canada were tied for 10th (Very High), Mexico 77 ,(High).
World's Happiest Countries: Denmark first, US 13th: couldn't find a complete list to get a ranking for Mexico (not in top 20).
Social Progress Index, US 19th, Mexico 54th.
Gross Domestic Product/capita:
US $51,340/Mexico $16,291
Anyway, Mexico has moved up substantially in last 20 years, but has also accumulated some significant social problems. While US while still largest economy and by far the wealthiest country is clearly regressing in terms of distribution of it's wealth to its citizenry NY any corporate or social mechanism.

Ramzfan
  6/14/2017 12:13 EST

The shooting at a Washington DC baseball field this morning shows how politics can destroy a normal persons life. (We all know a person or persons who are what can be considered as extremely radical, don't we Juan?) it is one thing to believe in a party or system. It's another to go off the deep end and start thinking that you can change the world with a gun. However, I'm not surprised that this was a Bernie supporter...some of them were pretty far out....!

Ben2018
  6/14/2017 13:26 EST

Dear Ramzfan; I liked what you said about people "going off the deep end" regarding their politics This is one reason more people are losing faith, belief in USA. So sad you had to negate your own point by then making a comment about some "far out" Bernie supporters. Don't you think there are people of the same mind who follow some other politician or party?

DeniseLR
  6/14/2017 15:19 EST

This is Pedro using Denise's log in as I can't get many of my posts posted. Not sure why, whether some sort of glitch or censoring. I wanted to say Denise was right and despite people's supposed pleas for civility and staying on topic the only attention we (she and I) garner is when we bang ,(hit hard/criticize) somebody. Or spout a lot of simplistic cliches designed to appeal to either side. So what's the point? Issues aren't so big, not really. So I'm retiring.
Having said that, reading the Ramzfan post and just have to wonder if this guy is for real. All the pleas by Obama for calm and civility with zero acquiescence by the right and now... Dude. you are such an unbelievable hypocrite! Well, don't be surprised, once people cut off from health care start dying. ,if you look up and find a lot of really angry friends and relatives who feel they have little to lose now that all they love has been taken away from them. And don't buy the "teaching them to fish," rather than "giving them fish" argument as it applies to $,800/day hospital charges. Such a tool. Finally, here's hoping the Golden State Warriors boycott the White House. Oh, NY the way, Juan can be irritating but probably more mainstream than you.
Adios.

DeniseLR
  6/14/2017 15:28 EST

PS. If Putin tried to create the perfect character to sow dissension and create discord it would be Good Ol' Steve or someone just like him. But he doesn't need to, does he? Or has he? Adios. (segunda vez,)

Ramzfan
  6/15/2017 10:44 EST

Ben2018...sorry about that, I just call 'em as I see 'em. Yes, there are supporters of other candidates that are capable of the same thing, but they didn't do this, did they...? If and when they do, I will call them out too. I know you folks don't want to hear this but if you look at who throws the riots, who blocks the highways, who shoots one another in cities like Chicago and D.C., it isn't the Conservatives. It's the people who have never been taught to respect the rights & properly of others!

Ramzfan
  6/15/2017 11:23 EST

"Give a man a fish and he wii eat for a day.
Deport him and you'll never have to feed him again!" Donald Trump: 2016

Ben2018
  6/15/2017 12:04 EST

A sentiment from someone who describes himself as a "Christian"...how sad. I prefer to remember: "that what you do to the least of mine, you do unto me", or the story of the good Samaritan, or the story of the leper. I could go on and on "ad nauseum".

Ramzfan
  6/15/2017 12:09 EST

Hey Ben, if I come into Mexico illegally, and they choose to deport me or lock me up, are they wrong...? They're all Christian Catholics.

giershift43
  6/15/2017 12:14 EST

Ben, you are learning who Ramz is. Just ignore him as many of us have learned.

larryoinpdx
  6/15/2017 12:23 EST

Stupid is as stupid does, Ramzfan. Self-absorption is not terribly becoming, but you and the rest of the Trumpanzees don't concern yourselves too much with that. Tell me this: What happens when your deportee successfully comes back across the border with a backpack full of black market fentanyl? Didn't think of that, did you? In fact, thinking of long-range consequences doesn't seem to be in your skill set or the skill set of your guru. You are all sad, ignorant and alone.

Ben2018
  6/15/2017 12:51 EST

I observe there are plenty of people who identify themselves as "Christian" who do not seem reflect the kinder parts of that theology, (think: Westboro Baptist Church, or historically those who have justified slavery, war with bible teachings). My impression of you is one who is more comfortable with "black and white", or "right and wrong" answers. But, I can only see "gray" and what is "right or wrong" can be situational. I have much fear and anxiety regarding the future, but I refuse to give into anger or allow my own fears to lead me to dark places regarding my fellow human beings. If you choose to govern your beliefs and behaviors based on fear/anger, I believe you will never be satisfied. I will not go there with you. I hope you can find some happiness in the short time we all have on this rock.

Ramzfan
  6/15/2017 13:12 EST

Ben, if you can't see the difference between blak & white or right or wrong, then YOU sir, are a lot of what's wrong with this country...!

Ben2018
  6/15/2017 13:15 EST

You must have a very sad life. I am sorry, but I will shake the dust from my sandals and move on.

LeiaRowan
  6/15/2017 14:30 EST

Ramzfan, Thats because Liberals are always on the side of freedom and conservatives are always on the side of "law and order",.. the original Tea party was Liberals, the continental congress was Liberals, the continental army was Liberals fighting against tories(conservatives),..
Neo-con nazi types are always making laws to stiffle the people,.. Liberals attack that garbage.
We are not afraid of people etc,.. Finland and Norway, are closing prisons for lack of customers, they are Liberal-Socialist societies, much happier and freer then the USA.

Ramzfan
  6/15/2017 14:45 EST

Leia, I'm sorry but I disagree entirely with that premise. Especially your name-calling "neo-con nazi" stereotype. Most laws which are made in the United States (63% of them) are written by Democrats. They are almost always the ones to pass the stifling rules & regulations that cost us money and taxes. As far as not being "afraid of people", no, you folks would like to see us overrun with Muslim terrorists and locked n our houses afraid to come out at night. And to touch on your liberal-socialist societies, what about Venezuela? How's that working out for them? You people live in a fog, only seeing what you want to see...!

Cozumeldeb
  6/15/2017 15:03 EST

Ramzfan, please take the blinders off, we're all immigrants and as such our fore-fathers, fought the fight for many of us.. America certainly does not have clean hands in our history..so get off your high horse. Stifling regulations, you mean like Trump pulling US out of Paris Agreement, or Keystone restart lies, fouling our waterways, bill signed to allow mentally unbalanced people to buy guns..all the while Trump is now under investigation..Polls are tanking and even the flakes are fleeing..as to mass murders, remember OK City?

Ramzfan
  6/15/2017 15:40 EST

Sorry Deb, I don't remember Trump being President firing the Oklahoma City bombing.

lmontgom
  6/15/2017 15:41 EST

Ramz: Sources, please: "Most laws which are made in the United States (63% of them) are written by Democrats." Most laws are written by aides, but can you offer evidence that Democratic members of the two houses (Senate and House of Representatives) or their aides write a certain percentage of federal legislation that is enacted? Can you state what legislation and subsequent "stifling rules and regulations" cost you money? Your fear of Muslims and your naive but nasty comment on Venezuela suggest that you think you can get away with the kind of nonsense spouted by the ignorant, mentally unstable president. You are no fun to discuss something with because you don't display the knowledge or skill essential to posting a strong argument. I don't know if you are incapable or simply see no reason to indicate that you have some facts and understanding of them.

lmontgom
  6/15/2017 15:42 EST

Ramz: Sources, please: "Most laws which are made in the United States (63% of them) are written by Democrats." Most laws are written by aides, but can you offer evidence that Democratic members of the two houses (Senate and House of Representatives) or their aides write a certain percentage of federal legislation that is enacted? Can you state what legislation and subsequent "stifling rules and regulations" cost you money? Your fear of Muslims and your naive but nasty comment on Venezuela suggest that you think you can get away with the kind of nonsense spouted by the ignorant, mentally unstable president. You are no fun to discuss something with because you don't display the knowledge or skill essential to posting a strong argument. I don't know if you are incapable or simply see no reason to indicate that you have some facts and understanding of them.

Ramzfan
  6/15/2017 15:59 EST

Well, to begin with lmontgom, nearly all of the auto safety laws have been written by Dems and they ALL cost us mucho dollars, both in the price of the cars and in the cost to operate them. You asked, I told. Do YOU think that Venezuela is a thriving, socialist economy? You love to make snide comments about our president, but you offer nothing to back them up. If you're going to butt into someone else's conversation, at least offer some substance...!

lmontgom
  6/15/2017 16:35 EST

Ben, I'm curious about your fear and anxiety about the future and how you think the US came to the point to make millions share your fear and anxiety. That we are ex-pats may suggest that a lot of us in Mexico don't like the direction of the US (and I, like many others, like living well at much less cost). I was born in 1938 in family-farmer ARkansas where racist Democrats held power until the civil rights act. Even peple who had more resources that others acted much like everyone else; many went to the same churches and their kids played ball together. Now taxpayer-subsidized agribusiness by $20 billion a year, with the majority going to non-farm-resident billionaires. Family farms sent millions of poorly educated (for anything buy farming) workers out to find a job. Technology is eating more jobs, yet no one talks about finding productive activities for millions of unemployed. Too much short-term thinking and diversion of resources into the hands of the top 10% of the population (most of whom inherit their wealth) has led to a population devoid of hope and opportunity. I would love to hear anyone's remedies for reversion our direction and also how we got here. I used to think the US was a great place; now it's where more than 50,000 died in 2015 from drug overdose. Of those, 33,000 died from opioids, half of which took drugs prescribed by an MD (CDC data). What is wrong with us? Ramz may respond with his usual, but I would like to hear others' thinking.

Ramzfan
  6/15/2017 17:50 EST

Lmontgom, it sounds to me like YOU'RE THE ONE living with fear and anxiety...the rest of us here in America are happy with the living conditions. I don't care if 50,000 + people die every year from drug abuse. That's called being a victim of your own stupidity. No, what I care about is living the good life and protecting my family from terrorists and unnecessary harm. I care about living my own life and not being told how I have to live it. I have always been a rebel, as was my father before me. If this is responding with my usual, then so be it. If the libs would just quit with the obstructionist tactics, our president could get a lot more done also.

Ben2018
  6/15/2017 18:20 EST

Imontgom;
You have a decade on me, but sill I think we grew up in much the same country. I was raised in a coreer non-com military family with 5 siblings. My family was classically "middle class" and fairly conservative. I will leave to the social scientists and economists why this country took the direction it did, but I am certain it began after the 1950's. I do believe this blind chasing of $$ has not been good for the spiritual health of the country. I sometimes liken it to a "secular religion". Over time money and power (influence) has become concentrated in a few hands and they have worked hard to maintain and grow their own wealth and power much to the detriment of the masses. To those who say "this is the best country in the world" (as my father used to say), I challenge them to explain HOW! We have an educational system behind most other advanced countries, our infant mortality rate is way down the list, we no longer rate well in "social mobility", infrastructure in shambles. We can go on and on. I think it revealing and sad that we are no longer considered a "full democracy" by a respected institution in Europe that has been ranking world countries since shortly after WWII. Even a former president (Carter) has publically said the US is no longer a democracy, but an Oligarchy. I think much of the blame rests on the US citizen who has been lazy about educating themselves prior to going to the voting booth. It is difficult to seek out unbiased, non-partisan information. Too many think political commentators on TV/radio are a good source of information. As I have aged, I grow further from the belief that "free market capitalism" has been good for the many at the same time it has created great wealth for the few. Recently I had conversation with a very conservative member of my family and asked him "what should a society do when, because of advancing technology, it can no longer provide sufficient quality jobs for its citizens. Jobs that a person can raise a family on. I think society should look at recognizing that people who leave the job market to care for sick or ageing loved ones is valuable to society as a whole. Likewise, artists make contributions to the betterment of society why not reward them for that contribution. We can be creative. Even several European coutries as well as India, and some others are experimenting with GUI (guaranteed universal income). It might be worth looking at! As for me, I am considering Mexico because I am only one medical crisis, or major financial crises away from devastation for me and my family. I cannot justify remaining in my country of birth and endangering my loved ones based only on some emotional connection to that country. My ancestors came from Europe to create a better life for themselves and we don't look down upon them for leaving their birth countries so.....

Ben2018
  6/15/2017 18:22 EST

HE SURE COULD... and that is frightening.

DeniseLR
  6/15/2017 18:33 EST

Don't want or intend to intrude but thanks to a couple of you for raising the quality of this thread, which I thought had died. Some may not agree but the value, IMO, in confronting far right ignorance isn't so much for the illumination of the ignorant one (no light bulbs are going on inside that head) but for others that may read it. Peace

lmontgom
  6/15/2017 19:32 EST

I moved to Xalapa, Veracruz, Mexico, on Jan. 12; getting the visa in my birth state, Arkansas, was easy. I applied for a temporary visa but because I have had a lot of experiences in Mexico (all my graduate research was done here), the consul gave me a permanent visa. I now have signed up for IMSS (Social Security health care) and may also sign up for the other universal health care program (IMSS covers very little until Year 2). I love living here; there are enough expats and Mexicans are amazingly friendly and helpful. I couldn't afford to live the way i like to live in the US, and the prospect of perhaps having to live in a nursing home as I get older frightened me because of the poor care and high cost. I thought the 50s were great, but you are probably right that the direction of the country was set then. I think the major things that has caused the change is that corporations have been allowed to do as they want; consolidation permitted by ignoring monopoly laws has created monsters like Walmart and Amazon, which are now battling each other. Education has been dumbed down. The farm boys that fought WWII no longer exist and a majority of young people aren't healthy enough to serve in the military. This is off-topic for this thread except that the new administration threatens to exacerbate costs of living, cut the safety net (even SS, into which I have paid since I was 16), etc. So the flood of US expats in Mexico can be tied directly to government policy like those I mentioned. I think I'll leave this thread because not much of interest shows up.

giershift43
  6/15/2017 20:00 EST

You make good points

larryoinpdx
  6/15/2017 20:06 EST

Ramzfan, just you saying it is so doesn't make it so - you were challenged for sources and you choked! You pull this stuff out of the air, and when confronted try to corroborate what you pulled out of the air by pulling more stuff out of the air. There are plenty of successful, prosperous, democratic socialist countries in western Europe. How much of Germany's power is from renewable, largely solar, sources at present? According to the German government's news release in May it was 85%! And you know how that was accomplished? That was done with a residential solar panel program requiring the banks to lend homeowners the money for the installation at a fixed percentage rate so that the sale of the excess power back to the grid pays off the loan. A socialist program - you cannot deny, as all the financing is controlled by statute - that has made the nation virtually energy independent.

You and the rest of the credulous hordes of right wing moonies can only focus on what you *don't* like, and your refusal to see that civilization is a cooperative effort and we are all in this together - in fact we have been since the time of the caves - disqualifies you from membership in the human race. So please -- go back to the jungle where you belong!

larryoinpdx
  6/15/2017 20:23 EST

Pedroal, you might want to look into Mike Pence's career - there are no grounds for hope where he is concerned. Look at the lies he told about Flynn. A Pence presidency would be a disaster, but not because he is inept. Quite the contrary is true - he is capable, but he is a monster!

giershift43
  6/15/2017 20:32 EST

Larry, you say what I fear. His hatred for women and need to control is scary too.

Ramzfan
  6/15/2017 22:55 EST

Larry, you really need some anger management. Why are you so unhappy? You know, you COULD move to Germany and take advantage of some of that socialistic economy. You could move in next door to some of the muslims too. Your kids could join them three times a day when they throw their prayer rugs down in your driveway and chant "death to Christians!" Be sure & write...let us know how you're doing!
P.S. Any other insults you want to throw around, have at it...! You lobbies crack me up! You're like little school children trying to hurt someone's feelings...hahahaha!

larryoinpdx
  6/16/2017 00:34 EST

Ramzfan - what is a "lobbie?"

Retiree2
  6/16/2017 08:06 EST

You can´t belong to IMSS and Seguro popular at the same time. It is against the law. IMSS covers some pre-existing conditions, but some exclude you from joining IMSS. The waiting periods for certain pre-existing medical conditions can be 6, 12, 18, 24, or 36 months to be covered. Seguro Popular covers all medical conditions and has no waiting period.

DeniseLR
  6/16/2017 09:25 EST

Larry, don't know if is possible to go back on this thread but both Pedro and I have discussed Pence more than once. Fairly recently he has said while getting $$ from cigarette lobby that smoking isn't "so bad", for example. We get that. No easy answers. AO needs to go (agent orange). Just responding to your comment. Thanks for your interest. Hard for Pedro to post and to get on this thread from out android, and we only get some of the posts now.
Interesting that Ramzfan and Retiree2 appear be the same poster with different personas. Are we being hoodwinked?

larryoinpdx
  6/16/2017 09:53 EST

Denise, you for one, clearly are *not* being hoodwinked! I haven't noticed any of retiree2's work but I will look for it. What passes for Ramzfan's opinions is laughable, and even he/she knows it. On the happy side, I look forward to establishing a daily ritual of long walks on the beach in Mazatlan before the year is out.

Ramzfan
  6/16/2017 10:36 EST

"Hoodwinked?" Hahahahaha Denise....you people are so paranoid! Haha, that makes me laugh...! Not a bad idea though...

Retiree2
  6/16/2017 10:49 EST

Same poster. Get real lady!

larryoinpdx
  6/16/2017 11:33 EST

Retiree2 - would your denial be any different than it is if what Denise suspects is, in fact, true?

DeniseLR
  6/16/2017 13:37 EST

Anyone that posts fake laughs (ex only: ha, ha, ha!) on a website has to have at least one oar out of the water.

DeniseLR
  6/16/2017 13:38 EST

Anyone that posts fake laughs (ex only: ha, ha, ha!) on a website has to have at least one oar out of the water.

LeiaRowan
  6/16/2017 14:15 EST

lol, what's in a name,.. name calling? WoW, not really name calling if what i am calling is true huh,.. like calling hitler a nazi is true, so not name calling, get it boyo?,.. ok so I did not do anything wrong then ! As to Venezuala, they were doing fine with Chavez until the CIA interferred. They had nationalized most of the oil, taken it from the rich Americans and were starting to distribute to the poor,.. don't forget when the CIA maneuvered the rightwingmuts to arrest him, all Chavez people came out into the streets and forced them to release him !:-).
Eventually America will wake up to what Ronnie Raygun and his ilk have done,.. the Bush family is ready to flee to saudi-Arabia with all their loot, papa bush knows it is only a matter of time. Cheney cannot go far out of the US without being arrested for war crimes. We will nail trump and pence too, we got pinochet the dictator of Chile. The writing is on the wall,.. Mueller just suppeona'd all trumps records and the courts upheld it !! bye bye klucker boy !!

Retiree2
  6/16/2017 16:58 EST

"larryoinpdx


6/16/2017 11:33 AM

Retiree2 - would your denial be any different than it is if what Denise suspects is, in fact, true?"



Qué clase de tontería es esa?

DeniseLR
  6/16/2017 17:07 EST

And in the meantime p.o.s.Iowa representative Steve King blames....wait for it, Barack Obama for the Virginia shooting.

Cozumeldeb
  6/16/2017 17:07 EST

Ramzfan., Obstruction, who are you kidding, McConnell's middle name is obstruction..you don't want to be told how to live your life? Who's telling you what to do..alt right waited 8 yrs to come and get their guns, still waiting, but since GOP baseball practice got shot up, might rethink, doubtful..NRA cash is a good Christmas present..and as to the OK City Bombing, Timothy McVeigh was a known right wing dud..do a search..

Cozumeldeb
  6/16/2017 17:17 EST

You know Denise, its getting crazier by the day, we are stateside right now and can't wait to get back to MX. Trump today, shut Cuba down again, causing a 13K US job losses, and $6 Billion annually in lost sales..going in the wrong direction..maybe he can find some coal mines to open.

DeniseLR
  6/16/2017 17:22 EST

We may follow you down there! Can't imagine most republicans even, except those in S. Florida, support this. Of course no problem with Saudi Arabian misogyny and public beheadings.

DeniseLR
  6/16/2017 17:24 EST

Cuban deal seems almost like a personal payback directed at Barack Obama.

Ramzfan
  6/16/2017 20:06 EST

Hahahahaha...the wackos are out in force today! I've never seen anything like it. If they're not accusing me of using an alias, they're whining about Venezuela and the Bushes and Reagans.
You people need to settle down...drink some more Kool-Aid. Life is not as bad as you think it is...we're all going to get through this. You only have 7 years and 7 months to go. Everything will be OK, I promise...!

larryoinpdx
  6/16/2017 21:07 EST

Retiree2 - It's not nonsense at all - she suggested you were Ramzfan's spoof and you denied it, That is exactly what you certainly would have done if it was true!

Logic is not one of your strong points I see. Pity. Had I known that, I would have been less terse.

Retiree2
  6/16/2017 21:48 EST

"larryoinpdx


new message
6/16/2017 21:07 EST


Retiree2 - It's not nonsense at all - she suggested you were Ramzfan's spoof and you denied it, That is exactly what you certainly would have done if it was true!

Logic is not one of your strong points I see. Pity. Had I known that, I would have been less terse."

Of course I denied it as she is assumimg something ridiculas without checking some of my previous posts over the years. You seem to be the person with illogical thinking, not me. Your logic insinuates if I didn´t deny it it would be false. If I deny it you insinuate it is true. Your hasty judgement is sometimes called a lie because you present no proof. You didn´t even bother to check my numerous previous posts over the years like you claimed you were going to do. Instead you just insult me regardless of what is going on. Not a nice thing to do for no reason at all. IMO

DeniseLR
  6/16/2017 22:06 EST

Hey, apologies if I'm wrong. Got a personal message with some associated info. Imagine you would not be too happy to be compared to someone like that. At least I wouldn't. I'm sure you have your own opinions. No?

DeniseLR
  6/16/2017 22:10 EST

Although if one checks out your name on site you seem to have a fondness for quoting katzgar, tuvevich and Ramzfan. Quite the trifecta.

DeniseLR
  6/16/2017 22:11 EST

Although if one checks out your name on site you seem to have a fondness for quoting katzgar, tuvevich and Ramzfan. Quite the trifecta.

DeniseLR
  6/16/2017 22:12 EST

Although if one checks out your name on site you seem to have a fondness for quoting katzgar, tuvevich and Ramzfan. Quite the trifecta.

DeniseLR
  6/16/2017 22:17 EST

Yeah, you're not them. I think I got spoofed. Apologies.

Ramzfan
  6/16/2017 23:04 EST

Denise, when will you learn...? You only have to press the "post reply" button ONCE to get your message posted. If you continue to press it, each press will post your message again (& again) I would think that even a paranoid lib could understand that....? Practice it once or twice...you'll get the hang of it....

DeniseLR
  6/16/2017 23:24 EST

You are confusing me with someone who actually gives a s... about you and your affliction.

larryoinpdx
  6/17/2017 01:47 EST

You proved my point, Retiree2 - logically, the only inference you may draw from my comment is that your denial is meaningless and thus futile. You took it *way* beyond that, and so I think I can see why Denise sensed some parallels.

However, I have seen enough of your writing now that *I* at least do not believe you are a Ramzfan spoof - I think this is the first time I have actually addressed that issue.

If indeed you are, on the other hand, my hat is off to you because you have me completely fooled!

Ramzfan
  6/17/2017 10:39 EST

Congratulations Denise, you actually did it! See, now that wasn't so difficult, was it...? Tomorrow, we'll start working on cleaning up your language....

Cozumeldeb
  6/17/2017 11:52 EST

Ramzfan, Continued denial of Trump's inability to even do the basic duties of the President tells us all that you are party 1st, country last. Trump has zero self control, and is rolling back important safeguards for all America..all the while pandering America around the world to increase his bottom line..Russia is involved and will continue to be..Bob Mueller is a republican and is putting together the A team of lawyers..it will not be long, although must give them time to take down Pence as well..

DeniseLR
  6/17/2017 11:58 EST

Keeping my fingers crossed. Have subscribed to Washington Post (Democracy dies in Darkness) Very anti-AO,.which I like, but actually gives him props on the rare instances when he does something reasonable. Long complicated column by economist criticizing Germany's trade practices, for example.

DeniseLR
  6/17/2017 12:28 EST

And of course the Great (not!) T. Nugent who called HRC a "toxic cu..." and B. Obama a "sub-human mongrel" is now calling for peaceful, civil discourse. A little late for that for many of us without short memories, But I'm trying.

Ramzfan
  6/17/2017 13:23 EST

Deb & Denise...Trump has already set records for what he has accomplished in spite of the Democratic obstruction. If the Dems would just allow him some breathing room, it is unbelievable what he could accomplish. But don't get excited, he likes the challenge. He kind of looks at it like he's having a battle of wits with an unarmed party.

Cozumeldeb
  6/17/2017 16:52 EST

Hmmm, does he get excited when he is stealing money from Children's Cancer Fund, when is stiffing the students at Trump U, when he was stiffing all the small contractors for money owed them, Stiffing immigrant foreign workers, or when he and Epstein started a "modeling agency," AKA whore house for under age Eastern European girls..No worries though he has moved on to bigger and better money makers, selling of America. Admit it, he has an entire Rethug Congress and this low life can't get out of his own way to pass anything.

nelsonokelmgmailcom
  6/17/2017 17:02 EST

Cozumeldeb WELL WRITTEN and to the point. T Rump is a cheating low life.

giershift43
  6/17/2017 17:17 EST

Agreed.

larryoinpdx
  6/17/2017 20:23 EST

Well put, Deb - and thus *always* with tyrants!

DeniseLR
  6/17/2017 20:51 EST

So true, Deb.

DeniseLR
  6/18/2017 08:26 EST

I have been following Elizabeth Warren, even though she is in MA while we are in NM. Both because I like her a lot and because I think she is someone that can beat AO. I think the right knows that and has started with the hate speech and false narratives and is flooding MA radio with attacks funded by big donors. For now because of her attacks on Betsy de Voss, but.watch the narrative change with punks like Sean Hannity and lesser punks as time goes by.
I've noticed our resident right wing loudmouth has a debate strategy which involves putting out the occasional 'fact', frequently a partial fact or a outright falsehood, and then when that approach falls through moving to personal attacks, your supposed lack of civility, posting or grammatical errors. Crude similarity to legal tactics. (If you don't have facts on your side attack the person.) Or bang the table (Alan Derschowitz).

Ramzfan
  6/18/2017 12:41 EST

Have any of you ever watched an old pirate movie or perhaps "Zorro?" Maybe "Knights of the Round Table?" The leading hero is always the swashbuckling swordsman who is pursuing a beautiful lady while protecting the townspeople from the evil government. Well that's how I liken the daily travails of Donald Trump. While he is trying to protect us all from the money-grubbing Democrats and their evil intentions, he must fight them off with one hand while signing bills with another. The good people are on the right side of the ship cheering him on while the dispicable forces on the left are attacking constantly from their boats and trying to scale the impenetrable hull of the good ship "Liberty." If only they could see through their blind hatred that the ONLY WAY this country will survive is by all its citizens pulling together towards one goal. But no, the forces sent by Queen Hillary are relentless in their quest to overthrow Sir Donald and they will continue to attack over the next seven and a half years until they realize that their efforts have all been futile and they have lost the chance to recapture their dreams. Oh well, life isn't always perfect, but if you have a positive outlook, you'll find that it usually ends well.
(Sir Donald is miles ahead anyhow....he already has the beautiful lady...!)

MexJuan1
  6/18/2017 12:43 EST

You're a sick man...

nelsonokelmgmailcom
  6/18/2017 12:52 EST

SO SICK! Of the urinating contest in this thread. Find something useful and productive to do with your time!!!!!!!!!

giershift43
  6/18/2017 15:19 EST

You are correct Denise .

larryoinpdx
  6/18/2017 17:20 EST

Pirate movies and Zorro Ramzfan? The last time you floated your ignorance-based rhetoric to the surface, Deb chewed you up and spit you out like used chewing gum. She asked you direct questions about things you said and you had no answer because you *have* no answer to valid questions. All you have, it is not clear to everyone, is make-believe. You pretend Donald Trump has accomplishments to his name and you pretend he is capable of even the most rudimentary logical thought processes, but the fact is that he is a narcissist bully who, had he been born without family money, would have had a hard time succeeding as a burger flipper. This is the person whose virtues you extol, and I suppose therefore you are more to be pitied than scorned, but scorn seems somehow much more appropriate in your particular case.

DeniseLR
  6/18/2017 17:31 EST

Yup!

Ramzfan
  6/18/2017 17:44 EST

"Yup"...? "YUP...?" That sounds like : choose one a) somebody at a storage auction.
b) a burger flipper at McDonalds.
C) a liberal after being asked if Trump won.
"Did you guys cry after the election?" "Yup!"

Ben2018
  6/18/2017 17:54 EST

To everyone communicating with Ramzfan. He drank the Kool-Aid and eventually will have the bellyache. At nearly 70y/o it did not take long for me to judge the quality or lack of in the character of D. Trump and it has taken me less time to do the same for Ramzfan I think he is just baiting you for entertainment. Let him seek entertainment elsewhere. He is definitely worth ignoring.

Ramzfan
  6/18/2017 17:59 EST

Ben, you don't have to make apologies for your age....we all get older. Some of us learn as we go along, some don't...please don't apologize...!

DeniseLR
  6/18/2017 18:06 EST

He is definitely worth ignoring, and you should do so. His ideas are not. IMO. Too many, including our so called President, seem to have or pretend to have similar misconceptions these days. Maybe if more people had reacted prior to the election....I am not reacting to him. generally. Rarely read his posts. Anyway, sometimes I feel more criticism levelled at those responding to him than to him and his toxic ideas. But that's just me. You may be correct. He really is a tool. And a petty one.

giershift43
  6/18/2017 18:07 EST

Ben you got it. Ramzfan is a troll.

Ramzfan
  6/18/2017 18:16 EST

Congratulations Denise....not a single filthy word! You ARE learning something!

DeniseLR
  6/18/2017 18:25 EST

Finally, if this were a person to person phone call with the tool I would have hung up long ago. But there are people that read this post that don't get involved in the discussion. Just out of curiosity, I'd appreciate an explanation as to why it is better for me, or somehow for the general good, not to engage people like this. I see it as standing up to a foolish bully. You must see it as ignoring someone will make them go away? I guess that will kill the thread, which is probably what he would like, if he even knows really...
I think we or most of us are in our sixties and beyond. Too hot here to go out (100+), no cable. Have to do something. Ramzfan is nothing compared to some of the people we need to circumvent every day in Albuquerque. Could deal with him with half my brain tied behind my back. (was that the Lamebaugh quote?) So could you all.

MexJuan1
  6/18/2017 18:25 EST

These "ideas" as you call them are, at best, foolish. They are rancid, deleterious and contrived thoughts developed through listening to the teachings and opinions of alt right wing, Leninist, fascist conspiracy mongers who could care less about anyone but themselves. These "ideas" prop up and glorify Oligarchs and tyrannical, narcissistic, self ascribed Dictators who's only wish is to destroy the masses at any expense and further their own enrichment. There is nothing to be learned from them or their "ideas" other than to never let this happen again! Saying you can learn something from these "ideas" is like saying you learned something from setting up a camera and watching your baby sitter abuse your children. A ridiculous statement...

DeniseLR
  6/18/2017 18:39 EST

So, turn my back on anyone that doesn't get it yet. They are not worth saving, right? I am so glad there are people on the House and Senate and in State government that don't have that defeatist, self righteous philosophy. And are still fighting. Now you can ignore me. Please.

DeniseLR
  6/18/2017 18:42 EST

Taken any Political Science classes? Marxism, Leninism, Fascism.... All the same to you, maybe. Don't study, don't try to understand. Just keep shouting.

MexJuan1
  6/18/2017 19:09 EST

Gladly...

larryoinpdx
  6/18/2017 19:21 EST

I meant "it is clear to everyone . . ."

giershift43
  6/18/2017 19:37 EST

Yes, Larry it is.

Ramzfan
  6/18/2017 19:45 EST

Juan, listening only to the ramblings of leftist ideologies is every bit as bad as what you are trying to say about those of us on the right. I sometimes wonder why I bother to answer your biased, non- Christian posts. It's probably because I feel there is hope for everyone, even those who missed out on their childhood.

larryoinpdx
  6/19/2017 00:15 EST

Ya know, Denise, I find myself in agreement with you. While I certainly understand the benefits of ignoring someone like Ramzfan, I find that it is occasionally amusing, and of some consolation, to have such a fat fish in such a small barrel to shoot at. I mean, all that faux-Christian piety and he/she supports Donald Trump! What could be more incongruous than that?

Another thing I have noticed, is that if he/she is challenged directly to put up or shut up, he/she changes the subject or books for a couple of days.

What do you suppose the chances are that Ramzfan is a Russian robot?

Ramzfan
  6/19/2017 10:22 EST

Good morning Larry, here's your fat fish to shoot at again. You mentioned that I book when challenged. Hardly. I only respond in the exact same way as your tribe of lefties. You have access to the same facts that I do. I'm sure even libbies know how to work Google.That is, when they're not on that faux, liberal-owned and run "Snopes", trying to make the smart people believe that they're wrong about everything. And as far as "Christian piety" goes, you know nothing of my Christianity. The only thing you can be sure of is that I'm not an atheist. Well, now that I've cleared some things up, I have to get ready for my golf game today.
It's so nice to wake up every day in a happy mood and with a positive outlook. Something I missed during the previous eight years.

hrlee7804
  6/19/2017 12:10 EST

I don't discuss politics for the same reason I don't discuss religion or anything large because it is corrupt. Pretty plain and simple to me. Obviously two side and no winners will ever be announced just someone else's opinion of what is or has happened and why. BUT what I do know for absolute truth is the money world likes Donald's ideas...........The stock market should tell you libbies something. My portfolio is up 29% so far this year. You guys must need something to whine about.....all the time. I guess Ramsfan and I must be the only ones with money in the market. Trump gets voted into office and the Dow jumps 300 points, hmmm. Somebody must know something you libbies don't. Yes Trump is easy to pick on (so am I) but the business world likes him and so do I. If you live in America it is your duty to support your Commander in Chief. (anyone of you do any military time?) You voted him in office and because your candidate did not win you want to whine about it. I have a friend that I gamble with sometimes and when he looses he always says "That wasn't fair" and makes some simple excuse why he got ripped off or??????? You are not the reason this country is great. It is great is spite of you whiners.

Ramzfan
  6/19/2017 12:17 EST

Hrlee......excellent post! They just don't seem to get it. My guess would be that NONE OF THEM have any money to invest, so they bitch about anyone that does!

DeniseLR
  6/19/2017 12:58 EST

I don't know. Larry. If he is a robot I am going to start thinking bad thoughts about artificial intelligence. We quizzed him way back on the thread about Rams football and where he went to school in LA. He is either for real or put a lot of work into his character.
But I appreciate the support. One thing, and I don't want this to sound elitist. There are people out there that are really that clueless. Some survey on radio discussed on ESPN said 7% of California H.S. students thought chocolate milk came from brown cows, for example. While our Mexican motel maid at Desert Sands motel thought Nicaragua was a city in the US. These are some of the folks Trump has been able to manipulate. And the right's attempt make $$ by creating private, for profit low quality schools exacerbates the problem. IMO. Long way around to say it I'd hard to fathom how people like this idiot exist, but they do! Which explains in part why Trump has made it as far as he has. Sadly.

Cozumeldeb
  6/19/2017 13:14 EST

HRlee/Ramzfan..this was a hoot! HRlee doesn't talk politics/religion, then attempts a smack down on "libbies," not having enough $$ to invest..Ramzfan, did you invent an imaginary friend? Someone who would buy your BS? Yep I'm right, Razzy's got a new super secret buddy, what do u think guys?

DeniseLR
  6/19/2017 13:21 EST

CD, es cierto que vivimos en un mundo extrano.

DeniseLR
  6/19/2017 13:55 EST

Oh, hrleeee, your hero's popularity is at about 35%. Short term, the economy is a little better than it was under Obama. Too much relaxation of regulatory oversight and we will be back to the end of the Bush era with another 'correction'. We took down the world economy last time. Can't wait for a repeat! I was in Uruguay and people were affected down there (AIG is big there). But you and your BF don't really care about all that,.do you? As long as your portfolio is up. Stock market always goes up when new republican administration comes in. Doesn't mean anyone LOVES him. Any more than Americans who bought Mexican marijuana LOVE the cartels. Get a clue.

DeniseLR
  6/19/2017 14:01 EST

And by the way, how much did the stock market go up under Obama? New record highs, I believe. You and your BF have short, selective memories. Sadly.

larryoinpdx
  6/19/2017 14:44 EST

I am certain you are correct, Denise - I see he/she has a new friend, though, who is just as self-absorbed and as ignorant as he/she is. I think what all these people have in common, at the root of it, is a certain *attitude* - a disposition to react to anyone or anything outside their comfort/awareness zone with condescension and hate, Of course, they are the first to accuse "libbies" of hate-mongering, but that is just projection.

They are a motley crew, the Trumpanzees - religious bigots, racist bigots, reactionaries, tea-party dolts raging against government involvement in their medicare, Fox News moonies - I started to rip Ramzfan's friend a new one this AM - I was happy to see that you took that on - but I started thinking about Mexico and it made me smile and I looked at some photos of a sunny day by the Sea of Cortez and it just didn't seem as important. Let them marinate in their own swill today, and maybe I will roast them tomorrow!

DeniseLR
  6/19/2017 15:06 EST

Have a great day, Larry. Wish we were there. Would be interested in hearing at some point how that (Mazatlan?) is working out for you.

larryoinpdx
  6/19/2017 15:27 EST

I will do that, Denise - I like this blog very much and have already learned a great deal from it. We are looking at 9/1 for the move - we established communication with several realtors when we were there in January and my SO is going down the end of July to find us a place to stay (at least initially). Meanwhile I am closing down my practice (law) which is taking longer than I had hoped. Yo encanta Mexico, and I can hardly wait to get back there.

Cozumeldeb
  6/19/2017 15:45 EST

I agree with you both..Mexico IMO is retirement heaven..there is a bit of an adjustment period, no different than movingly any location, refer to your ex pat group for repair, medical, dental folks..I always suggest people rent for 6 mos in any location their interested in. One item to consider is house or condo. We went the condo route because we were not retired when we bought..IMO, especially if you are going back + forth condo works best..from turn key to safety..No matter how many alarms, lights etc u use bad guys figure if a house is occupied or empty. We live in a 32 unit bldg, so not a monster bldg..

giershift43
  6/19/2017 19:33 EST

So you don't talk politics, but then you do. Business likes deregulation in the short run. But when enough corruption takes place due to lack of regulation such as the housing crisis or back in 1929 when they were allowed to buy on the margin, it causes great damage. The hope is that we learn from history and not repeat it, but people forget and get greedy.

Ramzfan
  6/19/2017 22:44 EST

SMART PEOPLE invest when the market is up....the other ones bitch about the smart people.

Ramzfan
  6/19/2017 23:18 EST

Hey Larryoink...that little piece you wrote this morning sounds amazingly coincidental. It's almost exactly how I would have described the libs. (Oh I'm sorry, I know you people get bent feelings when I call you that.) I'm just wondering how a successful lawyer (or maybe not so successful) can find the time in his workday to be texting to a blog and looking at pictures of the Sea of Cortez...? Perhaps I judged you wrong? Why you might just be a struggling public defender and be working for the government like your BF's, as they like to put it. Or maybe you have a little rented one room office with a shingle outside? An entrepreneurial libbie, which would be highly unusual. You people think "profit" is a dirty word. You're usually only happy when you receive a paycheck with "City of" or "County of" on the stub. At any rate, I just thought I would share some of the steamy broth that I worked up while I was marinating in my own swill. I really can't wait to get roasted tomorrow.

larryoinpdx
  6/20/2017 00:09 EST

Ramzfan, I thought I told deb that I was closing my practice and retiring to Mexico - maybe not.

Second, don't ever flatter yourself you know what I am thinking, please - your fantasies are as far off the wall as your alleged politics. I don't object to profit, but I do object to profiteering - I doubt that you acknowledge any difference.

Now, run along, please, and seek attention elsewhere - I received some very good news today so I will roast you another day.

hrlee7804
  6/20/2017 10:17 EST

I guess I should rephrase....."I don't talk politics endlessly" And I did not say anything about loving Trump. Personally I think he is 'schmuck' and think he should not be in office....BUT he was the best name on my ballot. The best people for the job don't want it. Most successful business people don't work well under the thumb of congress, etc. So why would they want the job and the cut in pay???? Mostly career politicians get voted in and that does not work so we tried this time with the best business person willing to take the job.
I didn't get much response to the "whining" comments or the "support your commander" comments.....When Obama got voted in sadly there was more black comments than his character from the Republicans. When Republicans lose we put our heads down and go back to work. When Democrats lose they whine like little school girls and can't stop pissing and moaning. NONE of my comments are political just an observation. Mainly just seeing the difference between talkers and doers. Believe me people like Ramsfan are just here to yank your chain. And it is so fun to watch. You whiners are so serious and I am guessing Ramsfan has this huge grin on his face all the time he is at the keyboard. If he is not retired then he has much more important things to do than play with you guys. If he is retired then he is doing it for his entertainment (and mine). I am certainly not the wordsmith some of you are on here so I will leave it to those most qualified. Again just an observation...Get 'em Ramsey

DeniseLR
  6/20/2017 10:37 EST

Hrlee, just like your buddy. Can't address the facts, really. Policies are important as well as people, and it is sad you can't or won't evaluate them. How do you know your little buddy is just here to yank chains? So he really is a sick troll, then, that is what you are saying. Spend a lot of time together? You sound a bit like tucevich.... You are actually galvanizing some that oppose your sad way of thinking and keeping the thread going. Yup!
And if 'whining' means going after Agent Orange (you didn't like either so you voted for Trump? what a tool.) then I am going to keep whining until that sad,.sociopathic f.... is out of office.
Get real. Trump was a draft dodger, wasn't he?
I

giershift43
  6/20/2017 11:07 EST

Ramzfan is a troll. I do not answer him. He likes stirring the pot for the sake of stirring it.

Cozumeldeb
  6/20/2017 11:43 EST

Larryoinpdx: Hrlee + Ramzfan follow same pattern as other Alt-Right tools, name calling, disparaging remarks all signs of either narcissistic behavior or other mental defect. These 2 need to get a room together and work out their aggressive behavior together. Enjoy your retirement in MX, Larry.

giershift43
  6/20/2017 12:09 EST

That is how Narcissists work to keep other people in line by insulting them or just putting them down. If they find someone weak enough to believe it, the go in for the kill.

Ramzfan
  6/20/2017 12:27 EST

Hahahahaha....you people are unbelievable...! I originally (way back when) got on this site to learn something about Mexico, because I spend a lot of time down there. I tried my damndest to be nice and ignored most of the rude & crude comments that I got, once my party line was known. I did absolutely NO NAME CALLING (other than lib or Libby) no swear words and spoke only of how I felt that the current administration was going to affect the economy and policies of Mexico going forward. What a joke! I have been attacked viciously every time I get on this thread. Now that I've decided to fight fire with fire, I'm hearing all of the snowflakes whining about how terrible that I am. Too bad. If they can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen...! Yes, I now do this for my own pleasure. I love watching you government leaches squirm!
(You see Denise, YOU CAN say something without cussing!)

Ramzfan
  6/20/2017 13:23 EST

Just read that the LAST Obamacare insurer in Iowa is raising its premiums 43%. Now I know that all you sunflowers out there will begin screaming that it's Trump's fault, that he should have done something to control the costs and that he collided with the Russians to bring this about. The truth is, he's trying to find a way to stop these exploding costs and make healthcare more affordable for everyone. I know, I know, y'all think that healthcare is a right and that it should be free like it is in multiple countries around the world. The funny thing is, you're all either living in the States or Mexico instead of moving to those Socialist countries. Why...? Could it be that it's easier to bitch & complain than it is to actually get off your azz & do something...?

larryoinpdx
  6/20/2017 13:41 EST

Thanks Deb - we received our visas this morning. We plan on doing significant exploring, so I expect we will end up in your neck of the woods before too terribly long, and those trails will be happy trails indeed!

DeniseLR
  6/20/2017 15:07 EST

If you guys (not referring to the tool and the troll) want to keep the thread going or shut it down I am fine with it. Not a lot of $$ in bank account this month so something to do for me when 100+ degrees out side. And I enjoy hearing from folks who feel more or less the same about the horrible stuff going on. Only started it initially as a forum to debate/challenge the people that took over Pedro's Baja thread and started lecturing him and each other on various issues of the day and of morality rather than addressing his questions and trying help him. Tiresome. So started this thread. Needed the specific title of the thread as a handle so people could say pretty much what they wanted, especially about the new administration in Washington. Never expected to get over 2000 posts. Probably a record of some sort on this site. But getting cumbersome, and hard to get into now.

A few observations. Maybe I am going to far with my "analysis" but here it is. You may notice the troll is gradually revealing his true self, a miserable, racist, sexist, hater (I want to say "old man" but I am probably close to his age) who never got the attention in life he feels he deserves for his warped, narcissistic world view. Eventually all pretense will vanish and he will reveal his true self, screaming in hatred and dropping all vestiges of civility. Sort of like AO, if you check out his twitter account. Doubt if he would ever do or say any of this to any of the black and Hispanic folks I know. At some point he would get his ass kicked, or worse. Typical bully, a coward at heart.
I am at the library using the computer to type this so can't blame the phone's self correcting function for any errors. Peace.

Cozumeldeb
  6/20/2017 15:48 EST

Ramzfan, do u have a hint of way insurers are pulling out, thinking not, but once this career ending death panel Trump care passes, you'll hear it 24/7. Your remarks/insults/name-calling increasing..No worries, you and your pal can move along to Alt-Right sites.

Ramzfan
  6/20/2017 15:49 EST

Hahahahaha...!

Ramzfan
  6/20/2017 15:53 EST

Denise, maybe I can send you a used iPhone
So that you don't have to use the library computer...?

Ramzfan
  6/20/2017 18:11 EST

Deb, I don't know exactly how insurers are pulling out, but if I were to guess, they're saying " Gee, this is costing us too much...let's get out of Iowa!" That's what theyve done in numerous states when they find they're losing money. (You can't stay in business if you're losing money.) By the way, my name-calling/insults/ remarks are not increasing, they're just getting more selective. I hardly ever insult anyone with BRAINS...!

Ramzfan
  6/20/2017 19:52 EST

What do you people think of the feigned outrage over President Trump forcing welfare recipients to work for their benefits? You

Cozumeldeb
  6/20/2017 21:28 EST

America is in a disaster..wake up!

Ramzfan
  6/21/2017 01:06 EST

America has never been in safer hands! TGFT

hrlee7804
  6/21/2017 09:26 EST

I wonder why no responses to welfare recipients having to work for their benefits under My Donald?

ghammond
  6/21/2017 09:44 EST

Everybody's bitching about healthcare. Obamacare is good/bad, Trumpcare is good/bad. Bulls--t !!!! The whole premise is wrong. The Federal government has no business in healthcare. It's a Federal money/power grab. 99.9% of social welfare programs are best handled at the local level How can the healthcare, medicare, welfare, social services,needs in NYC be even close to the needs in Sioux Falls SD? The Federal government needs to provide for the national defense, protect our borders, deal with other countries. All these social welfare programs are simply creeping socialism designed to concentrate power in the hands of the few that control government.

DeniseLR
  6/21/2017 09:54 EST

Stupid, simplistic argument from someone that knows so little about health care he (she, it?) can convince himself he is some kind of expert?
And why don't I feel safer? Probably would if I were a billionaire. Or a Russian of Putin's ilk. There is a storm coming headed right at you, far right wing haters. Better shut up and get inside.

Cozumeldeb
  6/21/2017 10:31 EST

DeniseLR, you nailed it..
That person does have all the traits of NPD. Waste of space and time.
Thx.

Ramzfan
  6/21/2017 11:18 EST

Wahoo! The MOST EXPENSIVE CONGRSSIONAL SPECIAL ELECTION EVER was won last night by the good guys! Karen Handel defeated her democratic candidate opponent in spite of his spending millions of dollars that the Democratic machine had pumped in from strongholds in places like Calif and New York. This makes 5 wins and 0 losses for the Republicans in special elections. I believe this is PROOF that the voters are behind President Trump regardless of the smokescreen tactics being played by the hopeless liberals. You go girl...!

giershift43
  6/21/2017 11:26 EST

I strongly disagree. We are further behind other nations by not have a non profit national health insurance .

Ramzfan
  6/21/2017 11:27 EST

Ghammond, I agree with you. However, now that the box has been opened, I don't think we will ever completely close the lid again. I see no way to go back to our old way of healthcare now that the libs have tasted the fruits (however sour) of the government paying their bills. You and I would be much better off with the old way, because we believe every American needs to take care of himself. Oh well...

DeniseLR
  6/21/2017 13:29 EST

There are a lot of reasons for high per capita cost of health care. One that people don't like to talk about is the restriction by medical schools, through quotas, admission requirements and high cost of tuition, of med students. Thus the high salaries of doctors, higher I believe (not sure) than any other country and the scarcity of them in many parts of the country, including rural areas. Monopsony, I believe, in economic terms. Scarcity and high pressure on med students contributes to the large number of deaths per year in US attributed to some sort of medical neglect. Several hundred thousand ? (Don't quote me, but a lot.) Many other reasons, including excessively high profits by for profit healthcare organizations, pharmaceutical companies, etc. and their executives. No real competitive economic marketplace there. Monopolies and oligopolies. (Admittedly, burdensome regulations and high malpractice insurance costs are also to blame.) COMPLEX problem.
Some states can afford their own healthcare, like California with JB, hardly a homogeneous population, or Mass. with M.R. They have the economic clout and populations to carry it off. Poorer, smaller states are left out in the cold. If you understood insurance you (right wing squawker) the more people enrolled and healthy contributing to the fund the more $$$ available to help those of us that really need it. And preventative care keeps the uninsured out of emergency rooms, which is actually super expensive and burdensome on facilities. I worked for a health care policy agency. Now personally I think for profit and public provision of services and supplies are equally problematic if not monitored carefully and fairly. Each has its pros and cons. I know giershift disagrees with me and she may be correct. Or maybe it is the mixture of both.... I don't know. I just know public institutions seem to foster, if not monitored, laziness and inefficiency buy those who aren't held accountable for their performance (I worked at 2 different publics Universities) while private and stockholder owned for profit corporations seem to frequently direct too much of the profit to the top executives (in economics the principal/agent problem) at the expense of said stockholders, lower level workers and consumers. Especially in healthcare.
Back at the library. Gosh, I'm soooooo poor I really need an I-phone. Not really,

DeniseLR
  6/21/2017 14:08 EST

And thanks for the support, Deb.

giershift43
  6/21/2017 15:11 EST

In Germany doctors do not earn as much, but they also do not pay for medical school. The State pays for the education as it benefits the entire country.

MexJuan1
  6/21/2017 15:16 EST

"benefits the entire country". What a novel concept!

DeniseLR
  6/21/2017 16:37 EST

Just an additional statement about healthcare. The 23 million + covered by Obamacare, in my understanding, are basically poor, non senior, non disabled adults covered by Medicaid. States Run The Medicaid Programs. In states that are willing to accept federal aid in funding for Obamacare some didn't. They only had to pay about 1/3. And while there is a basic set of services they are required to provide that is it. There are many additional services states can accept or reject. Obamacare also has a federal health insurance mandate and a tax imposed on the very, very rich... Which may be the real problem. Those pesky billionaires. My point is that to a large extent Medicaid is already designed so the states can decide what their populations really need. Admittedly it ain't perfect. That's all I've got to say. Now, don't let the facts get in the way of the next diatribe. But those are some facts I thought might be relevant.

giershift43
  6/21/2017 17:04 EST

It's true. It is out of fashion to care about the general welfare of the nation.

DeniseLR
  6/21/2017 17:11 EST

And the republicans are doing their entire Obamacare/repeal debate in private. Who do you think these guys are really trying to help: the people that elected them or their rich donors?

Cozumeldeb
  6/21/2017 19:19 EST

Ramzfan, look behind the numbers, 2 races yesterday, cut 20+ points off both races.. amounting to several 100k's of votes..BTW, Mueller was seen leaving Senate Judicial Hearing Room today, Flynn is singing a tune..Why is everyone lawyering up?

Ramzfan
  6/21/2017 19:37 EST

Deb, excuse me, I may be as dumb as you think I am, but I don't understand what you're saying to me...what do you mean "cut 20 points off both races...?"! And of course everyone is lawyering up...would YOU like to be caught with your pants down...?

larryoinpdx
  6/21/2017 20:35 EST

What they want to do with the Medicaid money, Denise, is give a huge tax break to millionaires and billionaires - that's what they don't want anyone to see!

DeniseLR
  6/21/2017 20:36 EST

Looks like.

giershift43
  6/21/2017 21:40 EST

No they have no interest in helping the people only the top 1%. How many tax breaks for the rich and blaming the poor have we had since Ronald Reagan. It never trickles down. It is a fraud. They want to kill off the poor. They have no need for the labor to run factories anymore. They know climate change is happening as long as they save themselves. They tell any story they can to redirect attention as they take all they can. They use religion when it suits their purpose and ignore it when it doesn't.

Ramzfan
  6/21/2017 21:56 EST

Wow! I can't believe the negativity that I read on this blog...have any of you ever looked at the glass as half-full...? You people could find doom & gloom in your favorite Birthday cake! Have any of you ever found happiness in anything? You know, SERIAL KILLERS get more enjoyment out of life than you do! C"mon folks, life is not this bad...President Trump is trying his damndest to right the wrongs of a crooked administration (I know you won't believe THAT) and needs all the support he can get. If you continue to let people like Juan the gardener poison your minds, you may as well move to Venezuela with Bernie and the rest of the socialists. Life is good...get on board...!

DeniseLR
  6/21/2017 22:44 EST

Better to keep your mouth shut and have people suspect you are an idiot than open it.... Well, you get the picture, MF troll. Talking about Trump. Among others.
I loved AOs interaction with Panamanian President. "Well (paraphrased) we did a pretty good job with that Panama canal, eh?' Foreign policy idiot savant! (just without the 'savant' part).

Cozumeldeb
  6/21/2017 23:08 EST

Really, quit joking, nothing you say is remotely true. You hitched your wagon to a corrupt, hateful human, enjoy your ride to the bottom.

larryoinpdx
  6/21/2017 23:56 EST

Ramzfan is pleased by an executive department that is so routinely corrupt and corrosive that anti-democratic practices seem normal. He has succumbed, probably willingly, to decades of market-fundamentalist/neoliberal rejection of the idea of a collective good, which seems nonsensical to him. Underlying this miasma, whether Ramzfan knows it or not, are a great many dangerous stories our leaders and commentators have been telling us for a long time: That greed is good that the market rules and should rule. That money is what matters in life and that white men are better than the rest. That the natural world is there to be pillaged, that the vulnerable deserve their fate and that the 1 percent deserve their golden towers. That anything public or commonly held is communistic, that we are surrounded by danger and we should only look after our own. That there is no alternative to any of this.

Ramzfan can deny any of this describes him/her, but that won't fly, nor will his/her protestations of a good life. He/she is a pathetic creature, huddling in a dark corner, armed to the teeth and protecting his/her gold -- The Precious!

MexJuan1
  6/22/2017 01:38 EST

"When I was just a child, my life was, oh, so simple.
And the ways of the great world seemed strange and funny.
Then when I was a young man, I learned of that machine
that turns out all those bails of precious money.

Now you can measure your manhood by it. You can get your children to try it.
You can bring your enemies to their knees
with the possible exception of the North Vietnamese."

Necessary to live, yes. Worshiped by those who don't understand that an enriched life is so much more valuable. As a deity, capable of destruction and certainly proven able to overcome.

"As if you were your own creation, as if you were the chosen nation. The world around you just a rude and dangerous invasion. Gaia"

I, generally, agree with most of your thoughts and opinion "larry". From my perspective, there's no hope (gaia) for ppl like him and those they worship. They've lost sight of any and everything that, truly, matters and are, some day, in for a rude awakening that may come in one of many different, not so appealing, forms. You sow, so shall you reap...

DeniseLR
  6/22/2017 03:41 EST

Impressive. Larry. Liked the Lord of the Rings reference. We (huge nerds who don't back down from bullies) tried using a "Hail Hydra" on some of the posts when addressing the Washington AO administration. But it never caught on... Seemed kind of appropriate, though.

giershift43
  6/22/2017 06:39 EST

When I see it is from Ramzfan, I do not read it. I delete it. Problem solved.

DeniseLR
  6/22/2017 09:42 EST

Anyone can, and should be able to, engage or ignore anyone else on this site. It is probably smart to avoid bullies (or idiots) if possible. There are people I no longer read, including usually the party in question. But we are all adults and hopefully don't need to be protected like children. And this isnt really a single topic thread like most where people are actually asking for help, not to be insulted/ridiculed. I see much more egregious behavior daily around town than several of the trolls that hit the Mexico site and others on Expat Exchange. As Im sure Larry does as an attorney. We are sadly living in an age of incivility. I don't get involved proactively elsewhere on internet. Once this thread dies I doubt if I'll get this involved again. Not that interesting.
But as far as can tell it's places like Russia and Iran that control your posts in an attempt to direct the narrative. I'd prefer more comments about my health care posts from people that are open minded on the right (or left). It is easy to be critical or have strong opinions when you don't know that much about something. But that ain't happening. Now that is all I have to say on the subject. I guess you have the right to tell me to shut up as much as I have the right to engage Ramzfan or any other idiot on this or any other thread. Now off to gym and to help a friend who isn't getting much SS apply for a job. He is 67 and needs to work! Guess he should move down to Venezuela with Bernie and the rest of us SOCIALISTS. Just curious for the right wingers out there. Isn't our military a socialistic organization?

ghammond
  6/22/2017 10:01 EST

RE: DeniseLR, 6/21/17 post. Thank you for your thoughtful well articulated response. I guess that I am "simplistic", but I've found that sometimes the simple answer is the best.
“Stupid, simplistic argument from someone that knows so little” “you, far right wing haters. Better shut up and get inside.” That sure sounds like someone who IS the "hater". All be it from the communist left.

DeniseLR
  6/22/2017 10:20 EST

Yes. You get my position perfectly. Forced to take that stance because willfully ignorant people like you are unable to discuss the issues. Hard to be respectful when all I have been listening to for 8 years is absurdity from you and your ilk. From Obama not born in US to HRC bleeding from... during the debate. Little Mario and Lyin' Ted have fallen in line. Not me

At some point if your enemy doesn't listen to rational discourse, and you are the enemy for that reason, it takes something stronger. Sadly. That is why there is a storm coming, and none of us can stop it.

Cozumeldeb
  6/22/2017 10:27 EST

Denise, MexJuan1, Larryoinpdx and others, with a few exceptions, and you know who you are, I enjoy your posts in the AM. It gives me confidence that we will come out of these dark days. Denise your last shot about military being socialism, as is insurance, fire/police etc was spot on. I appreciate you all.

MexJuan1
  6/22/2017 10:40 EST

trump and this absurd administration give them all license to do what they do. When he goes to Iowa telling lie after lie and gets a standing ovation for promising to pass legislation that's, already, law to the Politically uneducated, blind followers. Declaring himself to be the "greatest president of all time"! Still attempting to shut down the legitimate Press. It's laughable and he's no Muhammad Ali, that's for sure! Of lies, yes. Accomplishments and competency of the office he'll go down as the worst ever... Even though some Republican Congressmen are falling soft on him, our only legitimate hope to get rid of him sets, squarely, in the laps of the Legitimate Press and The Judicial Branch. And he, himself, of course. He's his own Deep Throat...

Ramzfan
  6/22/2017 11:15 EST

No Denise, far to the dismay of those of you on the far-left, the military IS NOT a "socialistic organization." If you would bother to read the constitution, you would find the phrase "provide for the common defense." You wouldn't have to go any farther than the preamble.

giershift43
  6/22/2017 12:02 EST

Name calling suggests an inability to address an argument with fact or reason.

Ramzfan
  6/22/2017 12:04 EST

Strange to read THAT remark coming from Gier...!

larryoinpdx
  6/22/2017 12:05 EST

Ramzfan, how did you miss the part about promoting the general welfare? Selective reading? It came hard on the heels of the common defense provision which you quoted. How could you miss something like that?

Ramzfan
  6/22/2017 12:16 EST

Larryoink, I KNEW you would question that...all libs do. "Promote the general welfare" means to establish standardization and a fair and efficient economy that maximizes all people's ability to pursue happiness. That's all...plain & simple.

giershift43
  6/22/2017 12:26 EST

Cozumeldeb I agree. They give me hope as well.

DeniseLR
  6/22/2017 13:03 EST

Thanks. Deb. I generally feel the same about you guys. Just left a highly subsidized Community Center listening to a bunch of AO followers who are there daily ($15/annum) going on about the usual.

ghammond
  6/22/2017 13:07 EST

"Promoting the general welfare" means exactly what Ramzfan said, not establishing a welfare system that drags everyone to the bottom.

DeniseLR
  6/22/2017 13:27 EST

Thanks. Deb. I generally feel the same about you guys. Just left a highly subsidized Community Center listening to a bunch of AO followers who are there daily ($15/annum) going on about the usual.

MexJuan1
  6/22/2017 13:36 EST

No matter. They don't do that either! Only their own...

DeniseLR
  6/22/2017 13:36 EST

Militias were the 'common defense' back then in a basically rural US. You are so ill prepared. They would be horrified by the military-industrial complex (as was that rabid liberal Dwight Eisenhower) and the false equating of assault weapons with black powder long rifles.

DeniseLR
  6/22/2017 13:39 EST

Militias were the 'common defense' back then in a basically rural US. You are so ill prepared. They would be horrified by the military-industrial complex (as was that rabid liberal Dwight Eisenhower) and the false equating of assault weapons with black powder long rifles.

DeniseLR
  6/22/2017 13:53 EST

You haters interpret the Constitution, written in a completely different era, with the same hypocritical zeal that the self righteous pick and choose bible sections to support their own world view. One lady told me she was sick of that " love and forgiveness stuff". You haters are definitely in that camp. What about the VA (free, highly subsidized healthcare definitely not part of Constitution)? Just don't take away MY FREE STUFF!
(and get the f... off my lawn).

Ramzfan
  6/22/2017 14:28 EST

Haha Denise...yeah, we're the haters...! Every time I post on here I get barraged with name-calling, being called filthy names ( by YOU by the way) and all kinds of BS that has nothing to do with the subject matter. But WE'RE the haters....? Hahahahaha, don't make me laugh so hard, my sides are hurting! By the way, the VA is an offspring of developing a militia.

ghammond
  6/22/2017 14:36 EST

DeniseLR I am so sorry that you are so bitter. You badmouth others accusing them of doing what (if you were to honestly look in the mirror) you are doing. Just because your opinion differs from mine does not make you a bad person. However your name calling, diminishes the impact and therefor the value of your opinions.

larryoinpdx
  6/22/2017 14:39 EST

Ramzfan, as I suspected you have no idea what you are talking about, constitutionally speaking. Your statement about the intent of the general welfare clause is contrary to Madison's Journals of the Constitutional Convention and a number of documents in the Papers of the Presidents, neither of which you have read - in other words, you are making this up along with all the rest of the claptrap that appears to support what we laughingly think of as your "views." Those views have been debunked repeatedly on this thread, but you seem not to notice. An intelligent man would be embarrassed, but not you! Giershift is right, I think - there is nothing to be gained by engaging with you - you have nothing to say and so you prevaricate and pretend you do - so the best thing to do is simply ignore you.

larryoinpdx
  6/22/2017 15:10 EST

ghammond, you have your head wedged as far up where the sun never shines as Ramzfan does - neither of you have any authority whatever for your interpretation of the welfare clause and you are both dead wrong. A single example among many should suffice: In an eminent domain case in Michigan, the US District Court found that taking of real property for a hospital was for a "public use" because of the welfare clause, holding that its placement at the beginning means that "[t]he health of the people was in the minds of our forefathers".

You should, but probably did not, notice that while the constitution in general relies for the spread of power at least partially on the states, the preamble establishes the principal of popular sovereignty and it's provisions were expressly intended to benefit *people*.

So there is a two-fer that should -
but probably won't - rattle he cages of you and the rest of the neoliberal moonies - not only does the preamble protect what is in the common interests of *the people* (and not corporations), there is a strong implication that it extends to health care!

That hurts, doesn't it?

DeniseLR
  6/22/2017 15:37 EST

You are a hater, and ill informed. Name calling: you are a troll! Is it name calling if true? You really pulled that VA is part of forming a militia thing out of your a..., didn't you? So anything could be extended to forming a militia, like free healthcare for all to create a stronger, healthier population both to have a better military and for the GENERAL WELFARE.
And if you don't like it get off this thread. Please. Plenty of hater sites that would welcome you with open arm. Now, no more time for you today, "Sweetie". You make us self respecting seniors look bad. Excuse my language for all the decent people out there.

DeniseLR
  6/22/2017 15:56 EST

You are probably right, Larry. But I enjoy your comments after your reflection on some of the aforementioned idiocy. If we all agreed on almost everything it would get to be a pretty boring love fest or we would start battling each other over minor points. One thing: people take time to change their minds so there is maybe hope. We are battling a philosophy as pernicious in its way as radical Islam. And with all the right wing talk radio hosts, Fox news, right wing politicians promoting hate, voter suppression and gerrymandering...
They're not shutting up so neither am I. Especially not on this thread. But I can understand why you are getting tired of it. Sorry if you leave it, but I'll be joining you before too long. Wish I knew if these haters are real people or just internet characters.
Peace

worxs
  6/22/2017 16:26 EST

Jeez so many crazy people on this post. Libtards are running rampant! Funny that middle and upper class Mexicans are pro- conservative values.

Potty mouth Denise seems to have realized her comments may be immortalized on the internet..

Ramzfan
  6/22/2017 19:30 EST

So ignore me Oink... it's your loss...!

Iturbide
  6/22/2017 19:40 EST

Our gain, actually

Ramzfan
  6/22/2017 19:44 EST

Boy Oink, for a guy that's supposed to be a 'working lawyer', you sure have a lot of time on your hands you be reading blogs, making up big words and writing text messages. Tell us the truth now Oinky, is it true that you're just another government employee feeding at the public trough? Are we paying for all this time your wasting...?

Ramzfan
  6/22/2017 21:42 EST

Denise dear, you have to be able to READ before you comment...I never said anything about the VA forming a militia. You need to wash those bloodshot eyes with something other than vodka. No wonder you're so angry... deaf & dumb people get frustrated too...!

giershift43
  6/22/2017 21:48 EST

What it said was general enough to
For changing times. And times have changed a lot. It was written when doctors were still considered manual labor!

giershift43
  6/22/2017 21:58 EST

Agreed!

Cozumeldeb
  6/22/2017 23:15 EST

Ugh, hard to understand, Denise LR, how children of the 60's, can twirl themselves into supporting this corrupt POS..

Cozumeldeb
  6/22/2017 23:20 EST

I assume you are speaking of the corrupt corporate welfare system.. Corporations off shoring taxable $$ or moving "corporate headquarters to Cayman, Ireland etc as a tax Haven. Who do u think picks up the shortfall for Corporations not paying their share? U, me and everyone else..Your position is indefensible.

Cozumeldeb
  6/22/2017 23:22 EST

Ghammond my post was directed to you. Indefensible and uninformed.

Ramzfan
  6/23/2017 00:04 EST

Sorry Deb, I think ghammond position is strong enough that it needs no defense. And Donald is bringing corporate money back to our shores. But you wouldn't know that would you...? You and your commie pals are so full of hate from listening to your fake news broadcasts that you can't see what's really going on in this healing economy. Go ahead, all of you, move to Mexico or Uraguay or wherever. At least you'll be somewhere out of this country. (I'd prefer you go anywhere but Mexico, because I still enjoy my time down there but oh well) I would enjoy life much more if I could be around positive people, even the libs I know with a little bit of personality & common sense.

DeniseLR
  6/23/2017 00:06 EST

Ramsass (Katzass, Worxass, whoever you are) you make me laugh! Seriously, that was funny. May keep you around for entertainment, put a little cap with bells on your head. So if I'm a Hispanic would that be tequila?
Deb, GS, exactamente.

larryoinpdx
  6/23/2017 00:57 EST

Ramzfan, I slam it in your face that you don't know what you are talking about and I challenge you to back up even one word of what you say and the best you can do is to speculate about why I have so much time to spend on the internet? What a waste of skin you are.

And please believe me, dealing with your callow, myopic, rock-headed bewilderment requires very little effort at all and really takes almost no time.

Ramzfan
  6/23/2017 10:51 EST

You "challenge" me Oink? You challenge me...? The ONLY challenge I get from liberals is wondering how their thinking became so skewed. I gave you my answer, you gave me yours. To say that one is right over the other is strictly a matter of opinion. I could do some research on the matter, but I am not on a government payroll like yourself. I have important things to do, like playing golf at the club this morning. By the way, I thought you were going to IGNORE ME...? Hahahahaha!

DeniseLR
  6/23/2017 14:24 EST

No one likes you Ramzass (Worxs, Katzgar) no one wants to read your bs. Why don't you find another thread to pollute before the moderator pulls you off, pathetic little troll.

Ramzfan
  6/23/2017 20:19 EST

Why don't you sit on a big one & spin...?

DeniseLR
  6/23/2017 20:29 EST

Quiet around here. Something we said? Anyway, went back and read more carefully a few posts Larry, Deb and others. Had to step around or over some of the others. Guess the Mexico site has attracted quite a few parties ,(trolls) not really interested in Mexico but in the political controversy swirling around and a manipulative leader blaming much of their declining bank accounts on Mexico rather than billionaire corporate types moving offshore, destroying labor unions and paying a smaller % of taxes through various loopholes than they do. Interesting info that I enjoyed reading. Thanks, you guys ( not the trolls).
Now I'm going to wash my eyes out with tequila (vodka is for Russians).

Ramzfan
  6/23/2017 20:38 EST

Hahahahaha...is that supposed to hurt my feelings Denise? Is it supposed to make me go home to my mommy? I've got news for you wench, I'm not going anywhere. If you want to change sites, go ahead. Call your precious moderator and complain. Boo boo...the big bad conservative won't leave me alone...!????

MexJuan1
  6/23/2017 21:43 EST

I've been attempting to point out things that are, actually, happening in Mexico and could as a result of the disastrous, political situation in the (former) U.S. The rise in crime back to levels seen 20 years ago. Back to record levels due to U.S. policies toward Mexico and it's ppl. Increased Cartel violence due to the Opioid Epidemic that the Rep. Health Bill will bring to new highs. Trying to warn ex pats of the rise of leftist, Nationalist, anti American politics in Mexico and how that might "fall" on our heads in a bad way should Manuel Luis Obrador get elected? Nobody knows? Inflation in both countries and what I feel will be the eventual, devaluation of the peso to ridiculous lows. But, this turning into nothing more than a political "Fight Club" and the downright, disgusting, unethical characters who have found a voice here (otherwise if in the flesh, someone might vandalize their vehicles) or genuinely and by every moral right to do so, assault them physically (not me of course! Remember, I'm just a Military Service dodging, poor "dove" gardener...) anyway, I digress (which will happen to you if you remain on this thread.) I've chosen to stand clear and let others fight it out with the "acceptors of lies" who promulgate the wickedness of donald duck as if it were a virtue. I'm content, at this point to stand by and watch him hang himself with his incompetency, lack of policy (lack of any and everything for that matter. Humanity for one) his narcissistic, egotistical personality (again, not admirable traits) his big, effing mouth and uncontrollable thumbs. I'm all set to move to Portugal in 2018, ahead of the midterms and before they usher him out of where he doesn't belong anyway. Mexico has been fantastic and could be again should the Orange Haired Devil be deposed but with wackos like Pence and Ryan waiting in the wings, I don't see much hope in the near future. And with the Dems not getting their "merde" together, it could be several cycles for reasonable ppl to get back in charge and return American policy to some sense of normalcy and competence. Just don't think I care to spend the rest of what time I may have left, wondering and being concerned about what might happen to ex pats here. I wish all level headed, reasonable thinking ppl, actually, living in or moving to Mexico the peace they seek here. For me, the beaches of The Algarve are pretty awesome and calling my name... Let the "battle" rage on!!! ;-)

giershift43
  6/23/2017 22:25 EST

Mexjuan , you make me want to know more about Portugal.

Pedroal
  6/23/2017 23:58 EST

This is Denise, using Pedro's gmail: Portugal is great. I was there and bicycled from Lisbon to the southern tip in mid eighties. Olive trees and windmills. Bull fights where they don't kill the bull.
Everyone wants to control the narrative. I don't like to feel uncomfortable either. I certainly get the potential problems expats face in Mexico. But I recall Pedro getting attacked for not sharing certain opinions about what is going to happen and their severity. And I have been attacked for not somehow taking Trump seriously enough and obsessing about him insufficiently. And now for participating in 'Fight Club'. So what are we gonna do? Getting it from both sides by males who want to control the narrative. I guess I am not up on internet etiquette, but I doubt if I would ever... Well, forget it. I have been talking about departing from this site and have come back a few times. Not again. It was fun, then less so and addictive. Taking it too seriously. Won't miss it. Just wish I knew where Ramzass lived. Bet I could kick his ass (joke). But I could.
Adios

DeniseLR
  6/24/2017 00:22 EST

In 1980s I bicycled from Lisbon to the southern tip of the country. Olive trees and windmills. And bullfights where they don't kill the bull.
Everyone wants to control the narrative. There was some discussion earlier in the thread about expat problems in Mexico. I remember they were strongly advised on this thread not to come by a current Mexican resident. And Pedro was attacked for suggesting the effect on expats could be minimal. I remember a suggestion that the Mexican government would do everything it could to keep the 1 million or more expats bringing in 2 billion bucks or so in monthly. And that doesn't include millions of tourists. Noone seemed interested. And then I wasn't serious enough about Trump since that is the only thing worth talking about. And not being silenced. So getting it from both sides by narcissistic males who want to control the narrative. I have been threatening to withdraw from this thread and come back a few times. This is it. I will leave it to whoever wants to keep it going. Just wish I knew where Ramzass lived so I can go over there and kick his ass (joke). But I bet I could. Well, back to the tequila.

Ramzfan
  6/24/2017 00:38 EST

Hope you're kidding about leaving the thread Denise. Lot of people here would miss you. (Not me of course) If you do leave, good luck wherever you touch down. It's been fun.

giershift43
  6/24/2017 07:54 EST

Denise, I like your participation. You make good points. I do not think that the effect of Trump on expats has been significant., but I'm not one of the guys. Thanks.

larryoinpdx
  6/24/2017 10:34 EST

Well said, Juan.

Ramzfan
  6/24/2017 11:11 EST

You know, I just want to make a comment. I'm going to miss Denise's hate-filled comments on here.. I suppose I'll even miss the sailor's language that she spewed at me almost daily. Why would I miss that..? Because it always was fun to see someone get so angry just because someone else voiced their opinion on politics.
It was like pushing a button. I didn't even have to attack her. All I had to do was mention that I liked Donald Trump. You'd have thought that I was Jesse James! The guns came out blazing!
She's not the only one on here, but she's probably the only one I'll miss. Oh well, life goes on....

MexJuan1
  6/24/2017 11:24 EST

Thank you "Larry". I consider that adequate confirmation from a man of your, apparent intellect.

Cozumeldeb
  6/24/2017 11:25 EST

Geez Ramzfan, you name calling is expanding libs, libtard, left..etc, now commie..BTW, how many names do you write under? Pathetic, dishonest and corrupt so obviously describes you and your other pals.

Cozumeldeb
  6/24/2017 11:34 EST

Bahaha, Denise, nailed it.

giershift43
  6/24/2017 11:43 EST

Cozumeldeb!!! Right on...

Cozumeldeb
  6/24/2017 12:46 EST

DeniseLR, I think u figured out Ramzfan is writing under several names, guess getting bored in the basement. MexJuan1, Larry, giershift and others..is this nitwit won't leave then we will..watch for my message if u are interested..cozumeldeb

giershift43
  6/24/2017 13:09 EST

I am interested. Thx

Ramzfan
  6/24/2017 15:42 EST

Deb, is paranoia a family trait? Or do you nitwits just suspect that anyone who likes Donald Trump HAS TO BE one of a kind...? What you forget is that there are MILLIONS of people out here that are fed up with the lying and crookedness of the previous administration. People who want REAL change and people who do not share your twisted view on society.
These are the people who elected our president and are the same people who defeated crooked Hillary. If the Dems don't turn around with their thinking , there will be another republican in the White House come 2024...!

worxs
  6/24/2017 16:27 EST

Amen Ramzfan

hrlee7804
  6/24/2017 22:35 EST

aaahh! The cream floats to the top...Love it!

MexJuan1
  6/24/2017 23:26 EST

As does Pond Scum and Human Waste...

Ramzfan
  6/24/2017 23:46 EST

Don't fret Juan, we won't let you drown...!

Ramzfan
  6/26/2017 11:58 EST

How about that...? I just read that the STATE OF ILLINOIS is trying to petition the federal courts to find a way that they can go BANKRUPT! Seems that the Democrats that run the state have brought it to its knees. They can't pay their bills, their employees or their taxes. Imagine that...? This will be the first stat ever to go bankrupt. Another perfect example of why the libs should NEVER be in control...!

Ramzfan
  6/27/2017 11:25 EST

How interesting...the Supreme Court overruled the 9th circuit court (and others) and has approved Trumps travel ban. Liberals don't stand a chance against the Donald....!

Ramzfan
  6/27/2017 22:03 EST

How about this one? The libs never saw this coming...it appears that even the Dems are admitting that the whole Russia thing was bullsh*t! Really! Some of us always knew it was just a smokescreen so that the pansies wouldn't have to admit that they just plain LOST to the BETTER CANDIDATE! But to have top Dems admitting that it was fake news, I never expected that. I wonder how the gardener feels about his conspiracy theory now? I wish he'd have bet me some money on the "impeachment theory"....

Ramzfan
  6/29/2017 14:21 EST

Interesting.... the Supreme Court has ruled in favor of the "Slants" band on use of their name.
That means that the Washington Redskins do not have to change their name. The politically correct libs won't like it, but this country is going back to where it belongs! 9-0 ruling.

Ramzfan
  6/29/2017 19:45 EST

What is so terrible and "beneath the office of the POTUS" about President Trumps tweet this morning? All he did was mention that an MSNBC co-host tried to get next to him and she was bleeding from a face lift...? Is that terrible? If it's not true, sue him...! The bottom line is: If you're going to try to wipe Donald in the dirt, you're going to find yourself covered in CRAP before it's over...!

Rdanger
  6/29/2017 21:36 EST

You are so right. What a brilliant, aggressive human being. I'll bet you could, well I'm sure all you did, during your youth, and still do, was fight and f.. Say exactly what you're thinking, especially to the peons. They'll believe anything anyway. Diplomacy is for puss... Right? Refreshing honesty from RZ the great patriot.

Ramzfan
  6/29/2017 23:11 EST

Rdanger, as the lovely First Lady stared: "if you hit my husband hard, he will hit you back ten times harder...!" Donald Trump is not like any president we've ever had and probably not like any we'll see again. By the way, you don't have to talk vulgar to get your point across...I'm way more refined than that...!

giershift43
  6/29/2017 23:15 EST

I delete RZ posts when I see his name and without reading them.

Ramzfan
  6/30/2017 00:06 EST

Good for you Gier...you always have showed such maturity.

hrlee7804
  7/1/2017 09:04 EST

You can bet Gier reads your posts. I got bored reading the 3 pagers that Juan used to post. Yours are short and to the point AND hit home. I kind thought you would give up before the libs did. Don't know why I thought that but I did. I am not sure why the group caved in and shriveled up.......I think maybe a few of them that are willing to listen and learn got their views adjusted some......Whatever the reason my hat is off to Ramzfan! I started getting my news feed from here.

Ramzfan
  7/1/2017 11:32 EST

HRLee...thank you for the kind words. (There aren't many on this site) Too be honest with you, I think that the snowflakes have gotten together and decided to boycott me. I can just picture the bunch of them on their private messages, getting together and saying "Let's stop posting or answering Ramzfan. Maybe he'll go away and leave us to our own political fantasies again!" The trouble with that type of thinking is, look what it breeds...there are hundreds of cities in the US that are infested with this type of thinking (Detroit, Baltimore, St. Louis, even Chicago) If they're left on their own, they're like a bunch of little children without a parent in the room...no telling what kind of mess they'll get into! LOL ??

GigiB87
  7/1/2017 20:49 EST

The 'Tragedy of the Commons' is a concept taught in Economics courses. It refers to the exploitation if a public good by users who may have no incentive to maintain that good. Eventually it may become a wasteland through strip mining, over grazing, exploitive agricultural practices etc. This thread seems to have fallen prey, in much the same way, to those uninterested in contributing to the public good. And we are left with, metaphorically, a ravaged landscape populated with rats, pigeons and, especially, roaches.

GigiB87
  7/1/2017 20:50 EST

The 'Tragedy of the Commons' is a concept taught in Economics courses. It refers to the exploitation if a public good by users who may have no incentive to maintain that good. Eventually it may become a wasteland through strip mining, over grazing, exploitive agricultural practices etc. This thread seems to have fallen prey, in much the same way, to those uninterested in contributing to the public good. And we are left with, metaphorically, a ravaged landscape populated with rats, pigeons and, especially, roaches.

GigiB87
  7/1/2017 20:51 EST

The 'Tragedy of the Commons' is a concept taught in Economics courses. It refers to the exploitation if a public good by users who may have no incentive to maintain that good. Eventually it may become a wasteland through strip mining, over grazing, exploitive agricultural practices etc. This thread seems to have fallen prey, in much the same way, to those uninterested in contributing to the public good. And we are left with, metaphorically, a ravaged landscape populated with rats, pigeons and, especially, roaches.

GigiB87
  7/1/2017 20:52 EST

The 'Tragedy of the Commons' is a concept taught in Economics courses. It refers to the exploitation if a public good by users who may have no incentive to maintain that good. Eventually it may become a wasteland through strip mining, over grazing, exploitive agricultural practices etc. This thread seems to have fallen prey, in much the same way, to those uninterested in contributing to the public good. And we are left with, metaphorically, a ravaged landscape populated with rats, pigeons and, especially, roaches.

GigiB87
  7/1/2017 20:52 EST

The 'Tragedy of the Commons' is a concept taught in Economics courses. It refers to the exploitation if a public good by users who may have no incentive to maintain that good. Eventually it may become a wasteland through strip mining, over grazing, exploitive agricultural practices etc. This thread seems to have fallen prey, in much the same way, to those uninterested in contributing to the public good. And we are left with, metaphorically, a ravaged landscape populated with rats, pigeons and, especially, roaches.

GigiB87
  7/1/2017 20:52 EST

The 'Tragedy of the Commons' is a concept taught in Economics courses. It refers to the exploitation if a public good by users who may have no incentive to maintain that good. Eventually it may become a wasteland through strip mining, over grazing, exploitive agricultural practices etc. This thread seems to have fallen prey, in much the same way, to those uninterested in contributing to the public good. And we are left with, metaphorically, a ravaged landscape populated with rats, pigeons and, especially, roaches.

GigiB87
  7/1/2017 20:55 EST

The 'Tragedy of the Commons' is a concept taught in Economics courses. It refers to the exploitation if a public good by users who may have no incentive to maintain that good. Eventually it may become a wasteland through strip mining, over grazing, exploitive agricultural practices etc. This thread seems to have fallen prey, in much the same way, to those uninterested in contributing to the public good. And we are left with, metaphorically, a ravaged landscape populated with rats, pigeons and, especially, roaches.

Ramzfan
  7/1/2017 20:59 EST

Gigi, you only have to hit "post reply" once...the computer/phone.can do the rest. One of the things we all worry about is over-grazing, strip mining and rats. Donald Trump is doing a good job of regulating the first two but we're all fighting the rats & roaches on the left...!

MexJuan1
  7/1/2017 21:13 EST

Leave them to scurry about in the dark then, in their own waste, as they are in the dark with nothing more than that, reasonable to contribute. Their "toxic leader" is hanging himself day by day anyway. America has become a laughable wasteland of hatred, racism and bad intention with lacking and leaving respect in the eyes of the rest of the world. The only ppl who can do anything about it, won't. Yet, anyway...

hrlee7804
  7/2/2017 09:59 EST

Rams I am sure you are right they are in the wings talking smack pretty hard. We have a multi party system so more than one idea is considered and keeps one team from having the ball all the time. I keep seeing them in my mind saying "We have our minds made up. Why is Ramz giving us facts that don't match our findings" Basically they can't separate emotions from logic. Donald is easy to hate/pick on for many reasons but that does not mean he is not good at his job (good meaning the best choice we had at the poles). Republican/conservatives can separate out emotions and see the big picture.......Dems not so much and no clearer picture of that than here on this site......Running the US is nothing more than running a very big business. Who better suited to the task than a successful businessman? Why would he want the job is my question....but I know his ego is part of it but possibly he thinks he can make a difference. That's what I am going on until proven wrong.

Ramzfan
  7/2/2017 12:34 EST

HRLee...you are so right! To be honest, you're like a breath of fresh air. after being trapped In a tank full of sewage. I agree with you on Donald Trump. Why he would want to take on something like this is beyond me. My thinking is that a) he looks at it as another big challenge.in his life. b) his ego, which he wears on his shirtsleeves. c) he truly believes he can make America great again! At any rate, I think he's the perfect answer to a system that was quickly sliding into the depths of Socialism, if not Communism. My faith in the American people has been restored...!

Rdanger
  7/4/2017 13:50 EST

Have to believe Trump's antics have to have percolated down into Mexico at this point. Wonder how he is being treated by Mexican press. Call it fake news, whatever. Even his tweets are absurd. Now, are all you 'Libbie's" gonna let this this persistently reprehensible individual chase y'all off this thread. Wonder if you are the ones that voted for Jill or Bernie or Gary, or didn't vote at all because HRC wasn't pure enough for you. Well, we are in a pickle now. Have to stand up to the ignorant, stupid, misguided or downright evil. I said that!

giershift43
  7/4/2017 16:32 EST

The thread has become a waste of time. I joined to learn about Mexico, not argue.

Rdanger
  7/4/2017 16:54 EST

Why, yes Rdanger. You are correct. Thank god there are sensible flag waving Americans out there. My god a practical progressive, that's you. This text is from marlboro707 (not Rdanger).

Ramzfan
  7/8/2017 14:50 EST

How about that...? The Heritage Foundation has been compiling a database of PROVEN VOTER FRAUD in the United States. So far, they have documented proof of electoral fraud in 47 states. This is definitely a national problem. Many (most) liberals still deny it and claim it is just a smokescreen for "voter suppression." Why is it that the lobbies fight against admitting the truth? Obviously, it's because every vote counts and if they have to play by the rules, (something they haven't had to do for the past eight years) they know that it will be a long, long time before they get another loser into the White House.

GigiB87
  7/8/2017 21:01 EST

Chris Hedges: "I do not fight fascists because I expect to win. I fight fascists because they are fascists." (Mensaje transportado por una cucaracha inteligente.)

giershift43
  7/8/2017 23:07 EST

Gigi thank you

Ramzfan
  7/9/2017 13:27 EST

Hahahahaha....some clever person put together a video that showed Donald Trump body slamming a person whose head was the CNN logo. The libs are up in arms over it! "How dare they insult our favorite fake news station?" CNN even went so far as to track the person that made the video down and threaten them with exposure " if they ever dared to do anything like that again...! Poor little snowflakes...their world is beginning to crumble and all they can do is blame the Russians....!

GigiB87
  7/9/2017 17:02 EST

Much as gracias, Amiga.

kikipt
  7/9/2017 23:11 EST

The Heritage Foundation also claims that "Congress and the states should guarantee that every eligible individual is able to vote and that no one’s vote is stolen or diluted."
What could possibly be more diluting of votes than the electoral college, which renders a California vote worth 1/60th the value of a vote in Wyoming.

What they really mean is they don't want those poor votes or those black votes to dilute the power of white votes. They are such a fraud.

Ramzfan
  7/11/2017 16:05 EST

Isn't it great...our President went to Europe and was so successful that he has all of the world cheering for his success! So much different than the previous regime that was always apologizing for our misgivings...!

GigiB87
  7/11/2017 16:13 EST

I do not like selective censorship. Ranger and others have been trying to have comments posted on this thread. For some reason, hopefully computer problems rather than editing, he has been ignored recently. While trash like the last post is accepted. I told him he can go through me if not too long. Hopefully that won't be necessary.

MexJuan1
  7/11/2017 16:39 EST

Oh yes, it's great alright! He went to the G20, was ignored by most major powers as they circumvent him cause the think he's CRAZY (because he is!) and he was handled like a puppet by Putin. Your "boy" is going down. Donny "Silver Spoon" Jr. (might as well give The Trump Tower Mafia, Mafia handles) is on his own, you've noticed. CRICKETS from DADDY on his son's, son in law's and Campaign Managers COLLUSION. Of course, that's what CRIME BOSSES do. When an underling effs up, they ignore them and disavow any involvement. Look for "Silent" Jared to be kicked to the curb as per daddy's long list of personal counsel. Or should I say Car Salesmen/Ambulance Chasers. The Oligarch Mafia works in Russia. Sorry for you supporters (Jock straps) lapping at trumps sack, it won't work in the U.S. Flynn is talking to save himself. Others will too. That's what "Rats" do. Your time is getting shorter. Enjoy it while you can.

GigiB87
  7/11/2017 16:41 EST

Right on, MJ1.

GigiB87
  7/12/2017 14:20 EST

Rdanger: So, this is Rdanger communicating through Gigi. Last time I knew anyone named Gigi was "the night they invented champagne" (if under 40 you probably wont get it.) But she assures me Gigi is a "nom de plume", whatever that is, and she is a real American not French (horrors!). Hope I don't bump the "mosquitos love me" thread off the top here, but I wanted to keep it relevant and talk about another blood sucker (allegedly). So, Don Jr., went with inlaw Don and Don Manafort to see some nice Ruski lady with Absolutely No Ties To The Kremlin and then talked about adopting children. Except the story keeps changing and this is actually a federal crime so we have to wonder.... And then there was the ascendance of Ivanka at the G20. Now they are trying to commercialize further our internet. Have to wonder how long it is gonna take to drain this swamp and what it is gonna look like when Donny is through. Trying to cut off those 23 million+ from healthcare with assured resulting deaths in the tens of thousands. Think the Donny fans believe all is well because it ain"t them. But it is them! They don't seem to get it. I think some of those folks also think the Nature Boy Ric Flair, the American Dream Dusty Rhodes, the Hulkster, Cowboy Scott Hall (RIP) and even Rey Misterio Jr. are real MMA pugilists. They must because they believe Donny and Donny is a Bad Actor. Now, wait and watch the replies to this post and see if I'm not right. And call or write your Congressional rep and complain about something. Lord knows there is a long list of things to complain about. Pick one!!!!

GigiB87
  7/12/2017 14:23 EST

Rdanger: So, this is Rdanger communicating through Gigi. Last time I knew anyone named Gigi was "the night they invented champagne" (if under 40 you probably wont get it.) But she assures me Gigi is a "nom de plume", whatever that is, and she is a real American not French (horrors!). Hope I don't bump the "mosquitos love me" thread off the top here, but I wanted to keep it relevant and talk about another blood sucker (allegedly). So, Don Jr., went with inlaw Don and Don Manafort to see some nice Ruski lady with Absolutely No Ties To The Kremlin and then talked about adopting children. Except the story keeps changing and this is actually a federal crime so we have to wonder.... And then there was the ascendance of Ivanka at the G20. Now they are trying to commercialize further our internet. Have to wonder how long it is gonna take to drain this swamp and what it is gonna look like when Donny is through. Trying to cut off those 23 million+ from healthcare with assured resulting deaths in the tens of thousands. Think the Donny fans believe all is well because it ain"t them. But it is them! They don't seem to get it. I think some of those folks also think the Nature Boy Ric Flair, the American Dream Dusty Rhodes, the Hulkster, Cowboy Scott Hall (RIP) and even Rey Misterio Jr. are real MMA pugilists. They must because they believe Donny and Donny is a Bad Actor. Now, wait and watch the replies to this post and see if I'm not right. And call or write your Congressional rep and complain about something. Lord knows there is a long list of things to complain about. Pick one!!!!

GigiB87
  7/12/2017 14:23 EST

Rdanger: So, this is Rdanger communicating through Gigi. Last time I knew anyone named Gigi was "the night they invented champagne" (if under 40 you probably wont get it.) But she assures me Gigi is a "nom de plume", whatever that is, and she is a real American not French (horrors!). Hope I don't bump the "mosquitos love me" thread off the top here, but I wanted to keep it relevant and talk about another blood sucker (allegedly). So, Don Jr., went with inlaw Don and Don Manafort to see some nice Ruski lady with Absolutely No Ties To The Kremlin and then talked about adopting children. Except the story keeps changing and this is actually a federal crime so we have to wonder.... And then there was the ascendance of Ivanka at the G20. Now they are trying to commercialize further our internet. Have to wonder how long it is gonna take to drain this swamp and what it is gonna look like when Donny is through. Trying to cut off those 23 million+ from healthcare with assured resulting deaths in the tens of thousands. Think the Donny fans believe all is well because it ain"t them. But it is them! They don't seem to get it. I think some of those folks also think the Nature Boy Ric Flair, the American Dream Dusty Rhodes, the Hulkster, Cowboy Scott Hall (RIP) and even Rey Misterio Jr. are real MMA pugilists. They must because they believe Donny and Donny is a Bad Actor. Now, wait and watch the replies to this post and see if I'm not right. And call or write your Congressional rep and complain about something. Lord knows there is a long list of things to complain about. Pick one!!!!

MexJuan1
  7/12/2017 14:40 EST

Good post "danger!". "Nom de plum"= Pen name (6 years of Francais) and it's "Paul" Manafort just to be accurate but, yes, The Trump Tower "Mafia" is, in total, complicit with Donny "Silver Spoon" Jr. who will (should) be looking at Federal Charges but daddy got rid of Preet Bharara for a reason, you know. And the so called "Swamp" has only thickened with the smarmy swill of the unqualified billionaires who seek to destroy the U.S.from the inside out and other countries (Qatar for instance who wouldn't give "Silent" Jared the half billion he needed to get out of debt so they sold Saudi Arabia (which won't happen BTW!) 100B in arms to start a war with them.) Trump and family et al are going broke. They all owe more than they're worth and are using their trickery and criminal activity to "attempt" to get flush. It's NOT WORKING! The legitimate press, Special Counsel Robert Mueller, the Judicial Branch and eventually, Congress (the complicit Republicans) and the ppl will bring these criminals down. Sooner or later...

GigiB87
  7/12/2017 15:01 EST

Rdanger: Merci, Juan. I figure if they are that close to the head you know what, they must be some kind of clone. So I just call em all Don.

giershift43
  7/12/2017 15:51 EST

I hope he goes to jail soon, so tired of America's version of the Romanoff family.

giershift43
  7/12/2017 15:52 EST

I hope he goes to jail soon, so tired of America's version of the Romanoff family.

Ramzfan
  7/12/2017 20:31 EST

I pray to God that this soap opera ends pretty soon...with names like ""rdanger" and "Gigi," not to mention "MexJuan ", what are people to think? C'mon folks, you're putting me on..? Nobody can be that nutty...!

giershift43
  7/12/2017 20:41 EST

I do not think they are nuts... I think Trump Supporters are in denial.

MexJuan1
  7/13/2017 07:18 EST

Ramzfan, worx, hrlee, your "Boy" is going down! His scheme to get his riches back through cuddling up with Vlad is crumbling. In fact, with all the law suits and personal defense to come, he could become one of the "commoners" again. His worth is HIGHLY INFLATED, you know. Donny "Silver Spoon" Jr has, also, wrapped up his brother in law/partner in crime (who is, also, under water BTW) in a nice little X'mas package with a big red bow on it for Bob Mueller. He should be, like anyone else would be, fired but, The Don won't fire one of his criminal proteges now will he? You know, I was in my 20's when Nixon went down, didn't care and was too stoned to care (the 70's. Best decade EVER!!!) And yes, to cater to you, dodging the draft of an immoral and illegal War in which we had no business other than to make Standard Oil and the wealthy richer but, this, other than it being the downfall of the U.S., is retribution for me to watch! You'll see it too. Even though you don't believe it and don't want to watch. Quelle domage...

Ramzfan
  7/13/2017 13:09 EST

Denial....? Denial of WHAT...? We own the White House....the NUTS out there refuse to admit it...all they can do is come up with rediculous, trumped up charges that make them look like FOOLS to the rest of the world! I love it! The longer they go on with their silly games, the worse their chances of EVER regaining the presidency becomes...! Keep it up Snowflakes...!

GigiB87
  7/13/2017 13:19 EST

Rdanger: Heck, MJ1, I smoked a little, spent way too much time in college in Evil Socialist California (cept Ronnie was gov) and then, true story, signed up for the Air Force, had second thoughts as VN war becoming massively unpopular, but figured too late. But recruiting Sergeant recalled to Pentagon for fraudulent behavior and then said he "lost my papers". I was asked to reenlist. No thank you! Need to spend more time at UCSC.
I figure Donny just never smoked enough weed (legal now editors) for medicinal purposes and somehow went astray. Now he thinks his world is the war he dodged, and Chinese troops just crossed into Ho Chi Minh city. And he and the Horsemen, the Von Eric's, and the Road Warriors are losing. And you call us nutty? Look at who y'all elected.

MexJuan1
  7/13/2017 13:23 EST

Now who's "ranting". That criminal has "occupied" by hook and crook the WH and it won't be for much longer. And the longer the complicit Republican Congressmen stay with him, the more chance they have of losing their jobs too. Not to mention pseudo Christian Pence, Ryan who will lose HOH to Pelosi and the rest of his crooked, smarmy billionaire cabinet. The writing is on the wall. Not only can't you read it, you won't even look...; -)

GigiB87
  7/13/2017 13:31 EST

Nutty Rdanger: Gve it up there, Rammie. You are on another losing team there, and this one is in France (horrors) at the moment, not LA. More to come after I wake up, too much of that medicinal (joking) stuff Don Sessions loves so much!

GigiB87
  7/13/2017 13:33 EST

Nutty Rdanger: Gve it up there, Rammie. You are on another losing team there, and this one is in France (horrors) at the moment, not LA. More to come after I wake up, too much of that medicinal (joking) stuff Don Sessions loves so much!

GigiB87
  7/13/2017 13:36 EST

Nutty Rdanger: Gve it up there, Rammie. You are on another losing team there, and this one is in France (horrors) at the moment, not LA. More to come after I wake up, too much of that medicinal (joking) stuff Don Sessions loves so much!

Ramzfan
  7/13/2017 13:40 EST

MexJuan, although I usually don't respond to you, because I truly believe you are one of the fringe lunatics that could be dangerous to others (I'm not calling names, just stating a personal opinion) I will respond this once because my curiosity has gotten the best of me. I am wondering, you seem to have had some education in your background, why you would waste your time on hatred and rediculous theories when you could be spending your time on much more productive things that would be so much more beneficial to yourself and others? Hatred takes a lot of energy. Perhaps you have energy to waste? Most of us do not. I cannot imagine waking up each day to negative thoughts. I love seeing the glass as half-full...! NOTHING that you have slobbered over nor predicted has come to fruition, nor will it ever. You should make a list, going back to some of your earlier posts, along with the thoughts you have today, and give yourself two columns, True - False. Then check them off as they are proven in reality. No "maybes". Then when you're out there mowing some fat cats lawn and cursing him for being a Capitalist, you can pull it out of your sweaty pocket and see, in your own writing, that negative thinking is not worth the paper it's written on! Adios...!

GigiB87
  7/13/2017 13:48 EST

NuttyRdanger: I too spent too much time in college. Santa Monica CC, UCSC, Cabrillo CC, smoking a bit. Then I actually enlisted, in AF, in a moment of ...? Had second thoughts as VN war becoming massively unpopular. But too late? No! True story, recruiting Sergeant recalled to Pentagon for fraudulent behavior and he claimed he "lost" my papers. I was asked to reenlist. No thank you!
Now fellow draft dodger Donny is reliving those days and acting out his guilt. And he, and the Von Eric brothers, Oley and Arm Anderson and the rest of the 4 Horsemen are losing! Chinese troops just crossed into North Vietnam and Donny and the boys are going down for real!

GigiB87
  7/13/2017 13:55 EST

NuttyRdanger: Remix. I too spent too much time in college. Santa Monica CC, UCSC, Cabrillo CC, smoking a bit. Now Don Sessions wants to arrest us all. And this was in horrible socialist California- oh wait. Who was governor? Then I actually enlisted, in AF, in a moment of ...? Had second thoughts as VN war becoming massively unpopular. But too late? No! True story, recruiting Sergeant recalled to Pentagon for fraudulent behavior and he claimed he "lost" my papers. I was asked to reenlist. No thank you!
Now fellow draft dodger Donny is reliving those days and acting out his guilt. And he, and the Von Eric brothers, Oley and Arn Anderson and the rest of the 4 Horsemen are losing! Chinese troops just crossed into North Vietnam and Donny and the boys are going down for real! I'll bet that swamp is starting to look like a vacation spot compared to Oval Oficina!

GigiB87
  7/13/2017 13:58 EST

NuttyRdanger: Remix. I too spent too much time in college. Santa Monica CC, UCSC, Cabrillo CC, smoking a bit. Now Don Sessions wants to arrest us all. And this was in horrible socialist California- oh wait. Who was governor? Then I actually enlisted, in AF, in a moment of ...? Had second thoughts as VN war becoming massively unpopular. But too late? No! True story, recruiting Sergeant recalled to Pentagon for fraudulent behavior and he claimed he "lost" my papers. I was asked to reenlist. No thank you!
Now fellow draft dodger Donny is reliving those days and acting out his guilt. And he, and the Von Eric brothers, Oley and Arn Anderson and the rest of the 4 Horsemen are losing! Chinese troops just crossed into North Vietnam and Donny and the boys are going down for real! I'll bet that swamp is starting to look like a vacation spot compared to Oval Oficina!

GigiB87
  7/13/2017 14:08 EST

NuttyRdanger: And, in regard to previous post. I call attention of y'all to the proverbial pot calling the kettle... Suddenly Donny makes you fringe crazies think you are normal. Nope, he is a Bad Actor who has Conned y'all.(unless your income is in 7 figures or you are poor or your name is Don (Sean) Hannity) and you don't want to admit it. Wake up!

Ramzfan
  7/13/2017 14:18 EST

Rdanger...how are things in Bernieland? How's Venezuela working out for you loonies...?

GigiB87
  7/13/2017 14:40 EST

Don't ask no more (Bad grammar!) moronic questions just to say something and get attention. How is Charles Manson doing?/Same false equivalence! (or is it? Check to see his purported goals. Wasnt he trying to create a race war? Course he ain't well known in Russia.) Get real or.... Wait, keep yappin'. It is entertaining. Sinking deeper into the swamp. Now I am off to get my medical marijuana (allegedly).

MexJuan1
  7/13/2017 14:41 EST

Yes!!! Crass and crude "donny" commenting to the First Lady of France about her "shape" as if she were one if his "chippys" or a Beauty Contestant. Just NOT something that you do to a Head of State while a guest in their country. Just so absent of ANY decorum and an ego so big he, still, does what he said in the bus. Such a P I G! that's the U.S. prez in a word. Keep backing this classless loser ram. You'll go down hard with him. One thing I don't think you realize even though every now and again you exhibit a glimmer of intelligence and coherence. See, I gave you some credit. Kind of... Anyway, this schmuck was ALWAYS a criminal business man. Corrupt to the gills. He does kind of look like a fish (carp) when he sticks his chin out and purses his lips attempting to look "Presidential". Unwanted, shunned by NY High Society (why he hates Obama so much. He (the BLACK MAN) was accepted in due to his class and intelligence) I digress. He made his own World with unsavory characters and his family. The only ppl who would "accept" him but, just for his M O N E Y. He's a lifelong Democrat who is now destroying the Rep Party who he really hates for those same reasons (and vice versa) and is, probably, secretly giddy as hell. Collusion? He, more than likely, did. He, certainly, has obstructed justice, abused his power and violated the Constitution but, more than that, he's sullied any decent reputation that any political figure had remaining just by his mere presence so, he is unaccepted, again. Due, mostly, to his poor character and behavior. It's, really, very simple and Repubs are realizing, even though they know he'll sign anything they get in front of him, they can't get anything in front if him. He's an IMPEDIMENT! And they don't fear him anymore because he's been rendered, virtually, powerless due to all the chaos he's created. So, take a big breath, swallow hard, uncock your gun, take the bumper stickers off of your car so it doesn't get vandalized again ( Ido, honestly, feel badly about that. You have the right to express yourself. However misguided? And just accept the inevitable. APOLOGIES FOR LENGTH TO EVERYONE. Teachable moments entice me even when I have the knowledge that it will be poorly received. You have to attempt to help all our brothers and sisters. Yes, even Ramzfan.

Ramzfan
  7/13/2017 16:35 EST

To all of you pot-smoking snowflakes: read my earlier post to MexJuan...make a list of all your predictions for the Trump regime (including the one that have ALREADY failed to come true) and made two columns, one labeled True and one False. The keep track of them. My guess is that at least 90% of them will be False. If you don't do that, it's the same as "wishing in one hand and (you know what) in the other...!

GigiB87
  7/13/2017 17:07 EST

NuttyRdanger: Beats bein' an alky. You should try it. Might help your anger issues.

GigiB87
  7/13/2017 17:39 EST

NuttyRdanger: Es todo para hoy. Ahora voy a tomar un toke grande. I suggest y'all read the Washington Post editorial today explaining why Putin wanted to help Donny, why Russia is a hostile foreign power, and why Donny Jr. was misguided (a friggin,,' moron) when he said he would welcome Russian campaign assistance. Very good reading, enlightening, entertaining, uplifting. Buenas Tardes

giershift43
  7/13/2017 17:41 EST

Go girl!

MexJuan1
  7/13/2017 17:42 EST

I'll make a Truth and Lies list as well. One side of that list will be, pretty much, empty. ;-(

giershift43
  7/13/2017 22:30 EST

No apology necessary MexJuan.

giershift43
  7/13/2017 22:31 EST

CBO Finds Trump’s Budget Doesn’t Balance Like White House Said
President Trump’s proposed budget wouldn’t balance within 10 years, contrary to the White House’s claim, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said Thursday. The CBO sees much smaller revenue due to slower economic growth. Fed Chair Janet Yellen was also skeptical of the administration’s ability to reach its proposed 3 percent annual growth: “I’d love to see it."

giershift43
  7/13/2017 22:33 EST

I agree.

GigiB87
  7/14/2017 10:58 EST

Nutty Rdanger: I would love to see it too. Donny ain't balanced. And he thinks the skating rink he built for NY in Central Park back in the day qualifies him for public service. And because he is Very Smart and all he does is Win! Well Donny, how does that swamp look now? Hard to get out of quicksand. Better wave your arms and yell Heeeelp!

GigiB87
  7/14/2017 11:01 EST

Nutty Rdanger: I would love to see it too. Donny ain't balanced. And he thinks the skating rink he built for NY in Central Park back in the day qualifies him for public service. And because he is Very Smart and all he does is Win! Well Donny, how does that swamp look now? Hard to get out of quicksand. Better wave your arms and yell Heeeelp!

GigiB87
  7/14/2017 14:32 EST

Rdanger: But now to the really important! There is a serious shortage of marijuana in Nevada. My, goodness. Imagine that. Guess all the pot smoking libbies don't live in California. Guess they'll have to get their pot from (horrors) Mejico.
By the way, just had a breakfast burrito from la Taqueria Mexicana. Great food. Didn't know about them until I read about their place being repeatedly vandalized, I assume idiots stoked by Donny and his bs, so came down to support them. They were very grateful but seemed to be doing quite well.

Ramzfan
  7/14/2017 16:29 EST

Anybody ever wonder why the pot-smoking, law-breaking wanna-be expats are all LIBERALS...? Me neither...I grew up in the sixties!

GigiB87
  7/14/2017 17:13 EST

Nutty Rdanger: Pot smoking Charles Krauthammer: (after Donny Jr./Kushner revelations): "The Russian scandal has entered a new phase and there is no turning back."

MexJuan1
  7/14/2017 17:26 EST

Tom DeLay, Mike Crapo, Rick Renzi, Trey Radel (drug addict. Convicted twice on possession charges.)Not to mention Dick Nixon. And the list is long on both sides. Interestingly enough, those were all Republicans??? Conservatives are perfect. Perfect pseudo religious, hypocritical, lying, thieving, corrupt ppl just like anyone else can be. Except when they're not, But short sighted idealogues with limited intelligence and even less understanding are just so egotistical and narcissistic to think that it's "the other side" that's always bad? And I'm not a "wanna be ex pat". I live in Playa del Carmen Mexico and I graduated in 1969. I grew up in the 60's. You're not there quite yet I'm afraid. Your just a person of poor character who's chosen the wrong hero who will be added to the above list. A little humility and introspection wouldn't hurt but, you're too high and mighty for that. Just keep lobbying out incorrect barbs. It's, fairly, obvious where that's taking your president... Yes, I wonder.

MexJuan1
  7/14/2017 17:47 EST

You mean its not just a "Witch Hunt"? Hmmm? ;-) Spread the word "danger". Ppl who can't see the forest for the trees, who think that light at the end of the tunnel, ISNT A TRAIN, don't seem to understand...

Ramzfan
  7/14/2017 18:13 EST

Tom Delay...? Dick Nixon...? (Assorted other names that I've never heard of) I've never heard that any of them smoked pot...the only one that's been PROVEN to be a druggie is Barack O'Bammie!

GigiB87
  7/14/2017 18:25 EST

Pot smoking Rdanger: Have a toke, Rammy, and calm down. Heavy hard liquor drinkin' just makes y'all dumb (er). Y'all are making' no sense. Bush 2, coke, pot etc., before he Came To Jesus! I guarantee you Donny had some "Casey Jones You'd better watch your speed" days. Probably why he doesn't remember all those bankruptcies. I recall a study back in the day showing Republicans were more "hedonistic" (pleasure seeking for y'all) than Democrats. This was before they incorporated the religious right. Now they just pretend to be holier than thou, like good old Newt G.

Ramzfan
  7/14/2017 20:12 EST

Well Gigi, I'm going to do just like you lobbies do.....Show me where you get that B.S...! Now I'll give you the fact that Bush 2 might have smoked a bit. I'll even agree that Donald may have taken a hit or two. Most everyone does at one time or another. The difference is, the smart ones quit and make something of their lives. The others go on to become Democrats...!
As far as Trump's bankruptcies go, was there anything illegal about his bankruptcies? No ! His bankruptcies were all Chapter 11...that means that he worked his way out of bankruptcy and NOBODY WAS HURT...! Talk about dumb (er)....

GigiB87
  7/14/2017 22:35 EST

Potsmoking Rdanger: Not Gigi but you can call me whatever. In fact, call me Gigi! I like the name and Leslie Caron was hot. Now to Reality. First quarter of Donny's presidency lowest economic growth in 3 years. I am certain Obama is to blame. And I swear, some so-called adults and seniors having a little temper tantrum. Should get some marijuana. I'm Really Sure you would qualify for medicinal. Try it and all those stressful issues... What is as that movie with Jimmy Stewart and Jean Arthur where Jimmy's dad was Donny and Jean's dad was an eccentric inventor? Not sure, Best Things in Life are Free? Have to Google it.
Goodnight and Peace to all the Good, Decent people out there.

GigiB87
  7/14/2017 22:43 EST

"You Can't Take It With You". I'm sure Donny would take issue with that .... Amazing movie, IMO.

Ramzfan
  7/14/2017 22:50 EST

Gigidanger ( or whatever you call yourself) maybe you're like the 3 faces of Eve...you've smoked so much pot that you're not sure who you are...? At any rate, I'm still waiting for you to tell me where you got your "facts" about who smoked pot & who didn't? And that little tidbit about Donald's bankruptcies kind of threw you for a loop, huh...?

GigiB87
  7/15/2017 10:02 EST

Three faces of Eve Rdanger: Someone must have had a bad dream about money laundering Donny sinking slowly into that swamp, all the while trying to look presidential and waving his tiny little hands. Wow, bankruptcies harm no one! Wish I'd known that when I tried very hard not to go there, and succeeded (actually failing I suppose). Almost as good as medical marijuana, which actually can help (says ex Ram Kyle Turkey) a lot! This is from face #2. I still recommend You Can't Take It With You over Tres Caras. Not depressing. If you find that movie depressing I suggest a good (legal) toke, Don (Jeff) Sessions notwithstanding! I said that! Pot smoking Charles Krauthammer would agree.

GigiB87
  7/15/2017 10:06 EST

@#%&&***!!! computer. Turley not Turkey. Last person you would want to call that.

Ramzfan
  7/15/2017 11:40 EST

What a rant...! Not sure that I ( or anybody) understood most of it....have another toke you guys. Life must be good....!

GigiB87
  7/15/2017 12:22 EST

Three faces Rdanger, pot smoker extraordinaire: Tammy, if I tried to make any more sense y'all wouldn't get it. So I keep it lite. Now I get the sneaking (actually, hitting me on the Cabeza with a hammer) suspicion that the good people on this thread don't like y'all, and goin' back and looking at some of your basura on this thread I can see why. So I am going to take your heart throb Nancy Reagan's (prefer Jane Wyman) and Pot Smoking Charles Krauthammer's advice and Just Say No! Dont want this to become a dialogue discouraging other contributors. Because you are like (similar, not identical, editorial board) the dog who will eat his own .... to make a point, invalid or otherwise.
Cowardly Rdanger

Ramzfan
  7/15/2017 12:28 EST

......????

worxs
  7/15/2017 13:37 EST

Give up Ramzfan- these guys are just looking to take tax dollars(our money) and give it to people they like. Mostly themselves and their friends- Many on the left don't pay taxes when they should. Look at pampered debs chi-town- 2000 shootings so far and ms13 gangs running rampant. yet they want to give away taxpayer money for illegal immigrant support.
You know what they say- Only the wanted or unwanted go to Mexico! Mex Juan is laying low- I guess he is wanted somewhere- Maybe by a US Marshall. I am of the unwanted variety(LOL) Peace my friend

Ramzfan
  7/15/2017 13:45 EST

Well said Worxs...I just enjoy playing with their drug- filled minds. I'm not sure any of them are able to function without some type of "crutch" to lean on...!

GigiB87
  7/15/2017 14:14 EST

Rdanger: Notorious trollita Worx. (or ad hoc-look it up! -T(r)ammy's avatar) MJ1 don't need nobody to speak for him. He makes more sense than all you clowncar little middle school choirboys put together. What y'all have is Antisocial Personality Disorder. So says pot smoking psychologist Charles Krauthammer. Which means no empathy, so any attention is good attention. So we are wasting our time trying to communicate. This includes Hurley, tusevich, Woodwind Wayne, katzpoop, all of ad hoc Tammy's avatars. Over and Out! Wastin' my time. Sad, really. Y'all make Kellyanne Conway look like the proverbial genius! Think about it! Now for an entirely legal toke. Here's to money laundering Donny goin' down for real!

worxs
  7/15/2017 14:17 EST

Gigi is upset I left her out... I think I did that because she is to old to vote.

GigiB87
  7/15/2017 14:50 EST

Rdanger: Notorious trollita Worx. (or ad hoc-look it up! -T(r)ammy's avatar) MJ1 don't need nobody to speak for him. He makes more sense than all you clowncar little middle school choirboys put together. What y'all have is Antisocial Personality Disorder. So says pot smoking psychologist Charles Krauthammer. Which means no empathy, so any attention is good attention. So we are wasting our time trying to communicate. This includes Hurley, tusevich, Woodwind Wayne, katzpoop, all of ad hoc Tammy's avatars. Over and Out! Wastin' my time. Sad, really. Y'all make Kellyanne Conway look like the proverbial genius! Think about it! Now for an entirely legal toke. Here's to money laundering Donny goin' down for real!

GigiB87
  7/15/2017 14:57 EST

Rdanger: Notorious trollita Worx. (or ad hoc-look it up! -T(r)ammy's avatar) MJ1 don't need nobody to speak for him. He makes more sense than all you clowncar little middle school choirboys put together. What y'all have is Antisocial Personality Disorder. So says pot smoking psychologist Charles Krauthammer. Which means no empathy, so any attention is good attention. So we are wasting our time trying to communicate. This includes Hurley, tusevich, Woodwind Wayne, katzpoop, all of ad hoc Tammy's avatars. Over and Out! Wastin' my time. Sad, really. Y'all make Kellyanne Conway look like the proverbial genius! Think about it! Now for an entirely legal toke. Here's to money laundering Donny goin' down for real! And try reading some of these boys posts out loud with a Law and Order Eastern European Russian mob type accent. Makes a whole lot more sense. Not sayin',.but just saying'... Yes, I said that!

Ramzfan
  7/15/2017 15:03 EST

Hahahahaha...that's good Worxs!

GigiB87
  7/15/2017 15:03 EST

Rdanger: Oh no, you didn't say that? Yes I did! Write it down!

giershift43
  7/15/2017 15:41 EST

Your assertion is not well founded, but your prejudice is well ingrained.

Ramzfan
  7/16/2017 13:32 EST

Well let's take a look at what this "terrible president " has done for the economy this week: The Bureau of Labor Statistics reports that 220,000 new jobs were added in June. (Could be better, but it's coming along.) The Fed Reserve Chairwoman announced that household incomes are rising, which results in more consumer spending Stock values are continuing to rise, which means more capital investments and more goods moving from place to place. I know this matters little to most libs who who think a "stock" is something that corn grows on, but it's important to the intelligent part of society. Our new president is a disruptor and although there are many in Washington that don't like what he's doing, he is only fulfilling his promises to the American people..."DRAIN THE SWAMP!"

MexJuan1
  7/16/2017 16:53 EST

As per usual, your lack of effort to look behind anything you say, insight or knowledge thereof is striking and just bullet point accomplishments (It's just the "administrative line" with no substance). So, point by point, although, you guys don't seem to have any desire to, actually, learn anything. You'd rather just meme your man. 200K is normal for June. Every year! Maybe not '08 but, Obama fixed all that Republican, lack of regulation mess. Seasonal and Summer jobs. Big hires in tourist areas. Waitresses, Life Guards etc. All low paying. So, there's that. The average workers pay went up 2.4%. Inflation was 2.4% for a Net Zero Gain. How we doin' so far? I listened to Ms. Yellen the other day (is anyone on the planet more boring than her and that monotone voice? Better than watching Golf for taking a nap!) She said, since, either you didn't listen or didn't understand. I'd bet on a bit of both. Consumer spending and confidence is down and it's been problematic to find ways to change that situation. Interest rates, I'm betting (thats on me) as with Reagan and Bush will rise, killing the, already, lagging New House Startups. New car purchases are down 25% or more as well. Hanging your economic hat on the Stock Market is tantamount to the only other place to go in an attempt to rate this administration a success. Gorsuch and the Stock Market are the "go to" plays. Always! Fyi, the Stock Market, highly inflated as it is by anyone's standards. Especially the professionals, is NOT any sort of indicator as to how well any president, not to mention low and middle class ppl. 95% of the value in stock is owned by .5% - 1% of the ppl. In other words, the wealthy and super rich. So, after rendering all of your Ill informed, uneducated, fact lacking bullet point successes moot, your back to Gorsuch. That, him, I'll give you! Travel (Muslim) Ban contested and changed, again. No wall or any semblance of such. No Health Care Bill or should I say, half billion dollar tax cut for the same ppl who are making all the money in your "strong" (not) market. No infrastructure. No Tax Reform. ZERO LEGISLATION. NONE, NADA, ZIP, ZERO and at the, now, 36% (and that's losing base!) he's been rendered, virtually a powerless joke and Rep. Congressmen don't fear him any more. Plus Donny "Silver Spoon" Jr has put the family and the campaign squarely in Bob Mueller's cross hairs for a strong COLLUSION CASE, OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE, ABUSE OF POWER, EMOLUMENTS AND ETHICS VIOLATIONS. I can just imagine what Walter Straub, the Ethics Chief who just resigned so he could talk to Mueller is telling him! Oooh boy! So, you keep on "beating that Dead Horse" and see if he rides? You're going to be laying against some heavy odds Cowboy... Yee haw, up there in Knee-va-da... ;-)

Cozumeldeb
  7/16/2017 17:31 EST

MexJuan1, the sound you hear is me giving you a standing O!

MexJuan1
  7/16/2017 17:47 EST

Thank you my dear but, it's nothing, really. They are just so ridiculous, Ill informed and brain washed. I, personally, as I know you and the other intelligent persons on this thread, can't imagine just saying something for the sake of saying it?! They've bought in so hard and have been duped so well that they feel as if they "say" it, it's true. Of course, they're following someone who does just that! Egoism and narcissism don't equate to intelligence, I'm afraid.

GigiB87
  7/16/2017 18:44 EST

Motafumando Rdanger: Que elocucion exelente! Probablemente, si lo lee el tonto no comprendera mucho. Pero yo, si!

Ramzfan
  7/16/2017 22:23 EST

Sorry Juan, I can't help you when it comes to stocks. If you've never learned to use them, that's a large part of why you're a democrat. What I have trouble understanding is what you people are thinking when you criticize the 10% of wealthy people that own the stocks? We all are equal in America. We all had the same opportunities to become somebody. Just because you may have tried and failed, doesn't mean that you should despise those that didn't fail. Or those that may have failed but kept getting back up again and again until they succeeded. Those are the winners in any society and the ones who deserve to be applauded. No Juan, you seem to be an educated man but your education has steered you towards the depths of socialism. Who knows why? The pitfalls of our liberal education system could possibly be to blame. I remain a staunch supporter of the capitalistic economy, perhaps because I have always had the drive to lift myself back up and never fall prey to the pity party libs that always see the glass as half-empty. One other item Juan, you sounded a little like a sexist when you spoke about our Fed Reserve Chairperson. Be careful, you might alienate some of your fans...!

MexJuan1
  7/16/2017 23:10 EST

You're pathetic...

GigiB87
  7/16/2017 23:16 EST

Rdanger: Y'all are clearly a thoughtful man. Never seen such a talent before, stringin' together such a load of cliches. And imputing characteristics to MJ1 only the most creative could even imagine he was secretly revealing in his posts. Nanny stater, negative Nellie, lazy, greedy. Sounds like right wingers to me for sure. Well, I'm off to have a toke (strictly legal) and contemplate this shocking turn of events.

GigiB87
  7/16/2017 23:17 EST

Rdanger: Y'all are clearly a thoughtful man. Never seen such a talent before, stringin' together such a load of cliches. And imputing characteristics to MJ1 only the most creative could even imagine he was secretly revealing in his posts. Nanny stater, negative Nellie, lazy, greedy. Sounds like right wingers to me for sure. Well, I'm off to have a toke (strictly legal) and contemplate this shocking turn of events.

MexJuan1
  7/16/2017 23:26 EST

Well said in your own vernacular ""danger". The word is TRITE:
Lacking in freshness or effectiveness because of constant use or excessive repetition; hackneyed; stale:
As I said, again and always, pathetic...

Ramzfan
  7/16/2017 23:27 EST

Rdanger/Gigi...you only have to press the "post" button once. The magic of electronics will take care of the rest...

GigiB87
  7/17/2017 00:14 EST

Rdanger/Gigi/3 Faces: Tammy, your button pushing instructions are very useful. And timely. Never would have... Well, excuses, excuses. Just noticing Money Laundering Donny's approval rating is 36%, the lowest in 70 years, so I was wondering' if this was some sort of clever strategy. You know, he's not 64% empty, but 36,% full. Someone is certainly full of something'. What a guy!
By the by,I hear there are truckloads of marijuana (strictly legal) heading up from the Mejico (horrors!) border straight to Nevada. I've also heard Reno is so close to Hell you can see Sparks.
Buenos Noches.

GigiB87
  7/17/2017 00:17 EST

Rdanger/Gigi/3 Faces: Tammy, your button pushing instructions are very useful. And timely. Never would have... Well, excuses, excuses. Just noticing Money Laundering Donny's approval rating is 36%, the lowest in 70 years, so I was wondering' if this was some sort of clever strategy. You know, he's not 64% empty, but 36,% full. Someone is certainly full of something'. What a guy!
By the by,I hear there are truckloads of marijuana (strictly legal) heading up from the Mejico (horrors!) border straight to Nevada. I've also heard Reno is so close to Hell you can see Sparks.
Buenos Noches. Whoops!

larryoinpdx
  7/17/2017 11:56 EST

That was an excellent piece, Juan. I haven't been following the blog much - preparing to emigrate and all - but I see you have all the feral animals penned and caged. Good work!

MexJuan1
  7/17/2017 12:51 EST

Thanks larry. Just don't like to let them get away with the lies or incomplete, favorable only to their "cause" information. Context is everything these days! Main thing is that the "Elephants" get caged up and sent packing. Donny Jrs done a bang up job to turn up the heat on Pops and his brother in law and, daily, they stick foot, squarely, in mouth to do the same making Bob Mueller's job, relatively speaking, fairly easy. Things have gone from circumstantial and smoke to evidentiary and smoking gun with all of them, except "Silent" Jared, playing the dumb and dumber, naive, "we didn't know you couldn't do that" card... Ahaha. Anyone believe that a New York, Worldwide Real Estate and Entertainment Mogul, his family and the criminals they surround themselves with are naive to anything? If you do, I've got a bridge to sell you!!! Nice to see you back.

GigiB87
  7/17/2017 12:51 EST

Rdanger: Careful Larry, you are making' too much sense. Pity they had to go and elect this dude to realize everything we tried to warn them about was true
And it just keeps getting better!

GigiB87
  7/17/2017 15:26 EST

Rdanger: Careful Larry, you are making' too much sense. Pity they had to go and elect this dude to realize everything we tried to warn them about was true
And it just keeps getting better!

GigiB87
  7/17/2017 15:27 EST

Rdanger: Careful Larry, you are making' too much sense. Pity they had to go and elect this dude to realize everything we tried to warn them about was true
And it just keeps getting better!

GigiB87
  7/17/2017 15:30 EST

Rdanger: Careful Larry, you are making' too much sense. Pity they had to go and elect this dude to realize everything we tried to warn them about was true
And it just keeps getting better!

GigiB87
  7/17/2017 16:31 EST

Rdanger:
Joe Scarbrough- President Trump's Republican's have devolved into a party without a cause, dominated by a leader hopelessly ill informed about the basics of conservatism, its history and the constitution.
Ouch!

GigiB87
  7/17/2017 16:33 EST

Rdanger:
Joe Scarbrough- President Trump's Republican's have devolved into a party without a cause, dominated by a leader hopelessly ill informed about the basics of conservatism, its history and the constitution.
Ouch!

MexJuan1
  7/17/2017 16:56 EST

I've said it before. Trump is out to destroy the Republican Party. He's a, life long Democrat who hates Republicans as he's never been accepted into their high society circles. Mostly due to his poor character, ego, narcissism and crass behavior. The feeling is mutual. I'd say he's doing a pretty good job of it... George Will, Joe Scarborough both left the party and became Independents. They, probably, won't be the last.

Ramzfan
  7/17/2017 20:27 EST

Hahahahaha that's really funny, whatsyurname....was that original...? Or did the gardener help you with that? Haha, really cute!

GigiB87
  7/18/2017 14:52 EST

Mota fumando Rdanger: Tammy (computer just keeps changin' "R' to 'T') y'all had better double your intake of lisinopril, your blood pressure seems to be goin' through the roof. Sad that you are so typical of Money Laundering Donny's hard core followers. Nothing workin' upstairs... Wall Street Journal came out today against him. While he calls for repealing Obamacare even if nothin' in its place, Many right wingers and people in general don't seem to get the connection between cutting a specific service and its relation to other service. Here, people need more money as healthcare costs go up for them, or they are laid off and definitely need more income. Job market ain't always flexible, so they may wait, sometimes give up entirely. Crime goes up (more poor people). Emergency room costs go up. Businesses lose money because their customers are now broke, unemployed. Healthcare businesses lose money (fewer patients). Etc., etc. AND LETS GO AFTER IRAN! Interesting, not a big fan but when was the last time Iran started a war with anybody? This dude is all over the place. Now righties and lefties are calling for revoking of security clearance for son-in-law and a return to middle school for Donny Jr. to brush up on NOT BEIN' CLUELESS! It'd be funny if it weren't so tragic. Over and out..

GigiB87
  7/18/2017 14:54 EST

Mota fumando Rdanger: Tammy (computer just keeps changin' "R' to 'T') y'all had better double your intake of lisinopril, your blood pressure seems to be goin' through the roof. Sad that you are so typical of Money Laundering Donny's hard core followers. Nothing workin' upstairs... Wall Street Journal came out today against him. While he calls for repealing Obamacare even if nothin' in its place, Many right wingers and people in general don't seem to get the connection between cutting a specific service and its relation to other services. Here, people need more money as healthcare costs go up for them, or they are laid off and definitely need more income. Job market ain't always flexible, so they may wait, sometimes give up entirely. Crime goes up (more poor people). Emergency room costs go up. Businesses lose money because their customers are now broke, unemployed. Healthcare businesses lose money (fewer patients). Etc., etc. AND LETS GO AFTER IRAN! Interesting, not a big fan but when was the last time Iran started a war with anybody? This dude is all over the place. Now righties and lefties are calling for revoking of security clearance for son-in-law and a return to middle school for Donny Jr. to brush up on NOT BEIN' CLUELESS! It'd be funny if it weren't so tragic. Over and out.. Whoops, pushed that darn button again.

GigiB87
  7/18/2017 14:56 EST

Mota fumando Rdanger: Tammy (computer just keeps changin' "R' to 'T') y'all had better double your intake of lisinopril, your blood pressure seems to be goin' through the roof. Sad that you are so typical of Money Laundering Donny's hard core followers. Nothing workin' upstairs... Wall Street Journal came out today against him. While he calls for repealing Obamacare even if nothin' in its place, Many right wingers and people in general don't seem to get the connection between cutting a specific service and its relation to other services. Here, people need more money as healthcare costs go up for them, or they are laid off and definitely need more income. Job market ain't always flexible, so they may wait, sometimes give up entirely. Crime goes up (more poor people). Emergency room costs go up. Businesses lose money because their customers are now broke, unemployed. Healthcare businesses lose money (fewer patients). Etc., etc. AND LETS GO AFTER IRAN! Interesting, not a big fan but when was the last time Iran started a war with anybody? This dude is all over the place. Now righties and lefties are calling for revoking of security clearance for son-in-law and a return to middle school for Donny Jr. to brush up on NOT BEIN' CLUELESS! It'd be funny if it weren't so tragic. Over and out.. Whoops, pushed that darn button again.

Ramzfan
  7/18/2017 16:06 EST

Keep on smokin' that weed Gigi....you'll soon be believing in the Easter Bunny...!

MexJuan1
  7/18/2017 16:21 EST

You believe in trump! Why can't she/they believe in the Easter Bunny? At least the Easter Bunny has a pleasant connotation. And no speaking/lying which for "the don" is one and the same thing. Actually, I think the Easter Bunny could be a better president than that clown...

GigiB87
  7/18/2017 16:22 EST

Ranger, Already do, Tammy. Hell, I believe you believe all the cuckoo stuff you spout out. That takes a bigger leap. Easter Bunny is a nice bunny! You are a dissolute, ASPD afflicted paean to the seductiveness of greed, selfishness, and hatred. I said
that! Wish I didn't have to believe in all that. But I don't take y'all
seriously. Money laundering Donny we all have to take seriously. Now for a strictly legal toke!

GigiB87
  7/18/2017 16:24 EST

Ranger, Already do, Tammy. Hell, I believe you believe all the cuckoo stuff you spout out. That takes a bigger leap. Easter Bunny is a nice bunny! You are a dissolute, ASPD afflicted paean to the seductiveness of greed, selfishness, and hatred. I said
that! Wish I didn't have to believe in all that. But I don't take y'all
seriously. Money laundering Donny we all have to take seriously. Now for a strictly legal toke! Whoops!

GigiB87
  7/18/2017 16:34 EST

Ranger: Gracias, MJ1. Definitely male but using her log in as using my log in never gets my posts up! But Gigi is fine. Or Gig, as in Young (rip). Whatever. As for Tammy, I hear he's the Apprentice up for the Conway/Spicer position down the line, when they run out of....
Everyone Else! Can't wait for tomorrow's news. Donny has taken his surly, pouting, puffing reality show persona to the White House, and now its 24/7. Barring War, Impeachment etc.etc.

MexJuan1
  7/18/2017 16:40 EST

Spontaneous Combustion would be my preference. ;-)

GigiB87
  7/18/2017 20:03 EST

Ranger: Spontaneous Combustion?. Something to think about. And I'm sure Tammy and his buddies Hurley (you are so right, Tammy!) Katzpoop et.al. knownfrom their deep research into late night talk radio, especially the "Great" Alex Jones, there is information in the CIA documentary "Steven King's Fire Starter" indicating this could be pulled off. Humans with special powers, Charles Xavier and his X men, etc. It boggles the mind. Maybe if all those of us misguided fools who voted for "Crooked Hillary" focused hard enough (spontaneously) on Money Laundering Donny we could actually pull it off.
I suggest igniting something smokeable in the meantime. There is a piece in Newsweek about the possibilities of medical marijuana for children with cancer that is quite interesting. And the number of attendees in Donny Jr's meeting now at 8. Someone should look into this illegal attempt to snuggle children in from Russia. We need another Wall. Over and Out!

GigiB87
  7/18/2017 20:05 EST

Ranger: Spontaneous Combustion?. Something to think about. And I'm sure Tammy and his buddies Hurley (you are so right, Tammy!) Katzpoop et.al. know from their deep research into late night talk radio, especially the "Great" Alex Jones, there is information in the CIA documentary "Steven King's Fire Starter" indicating this could be pulled off. Humans with special powers, Charles Xavier and his X men, etc. It boggles the mind. Maybe if all those of us misguided fools who voted for "Crooked Hillary" focused hard enough (spontaneously) on Money Laundering Donny we could actually pull it off.
I suggest igniting something smokeable in the meantime. There is a piece in Newsweek about the possibilities of medical marijuana for children with cancer that is quite interesting. And the number of attendees in Donny Jr's meeting now at 8. Someone should look into this illegal attempt to smuggle children in from Russia. We need another Wall. Over and Out!

GigiB87
  7/18/2017 20:07 EST

Rdanger: Spontaneous Combustion?. Something to think about. And I'm sure Tammy and his buddies Hurley (you are so right, Tammy!) Katzpoop et.al. know from their deep research into late night talk radio, especially the "Great" Alex Jones, there is information in the CIA documentary "Steven King's Fire Starter" indicating this could be pulled off. Humans with special powers, Charles Xavier and his X men, etc. It boggles the mind. Maybe if all those of us misguided fools who voted for "Crooked Hillary" focused hard enough (spontaneously) on Money Laundering Donny we could actually pull it off.
I suggest igniting something smokeable in the meantime. There is a piece in Newsweek about the possibilities of medical marijuana for children with cancer that is quite interesting. And the number of attendees in Donny Jr's meeting now at 8. Someone should look into this illegal attempt to smuggle children in from Russia. We need another Wall. Over and Out! Whoops, pushed the button again!

GranJefe
  7/18/2017 21:21 EST

why don"t YOU try getting a life.....

GigiB87
  7/19/2017 10:55 EST

Life bereft Rdanger: Thank you for pointing that out. My goodness, you certainly are observant. No life! There are zombies aroung us. Aren't you the astute individual who advised us to Stay Out Of Nicaragua. And now here you are takin 'your own advice. The Biiig Chief! I like it! Sort of an understated humility. Don't know if you are a Money Laundering Donny fan or just a happy go Lucky senior citizen. Works for me. What are y'all the Big Chief of, Chief? Well, off to the gimnasio grande to try to get my life. Goodness! Sin una Vida Rdanger

GigiB87
  7/19/2017 10:57 EST

Life bereft Rdanger: Thank you for pointing that out. My goodness, you certainly are observant. No life! There are zombies aroung us. Aren't you the astute individual who advised us to Stay Out Of Nicaragua. And now here you are takin 'your own advice. The Biiig Chief! I like it! Sort of an understated humility. Don't know if you are a Money Laundering Donny fan or just a happy go Lucky senior citizen. Works for me. What are y'all the Big Chief of, Chief? Well, off to the gimnasio grande to try to get my life. Goodness! Sin una Vida Rdanger

MexJuan1
  7/19/2017 11:47 EST

This narcissistic, egotistical Ahole should be talking about Russia's interference in the U.S. Election. Instead and because his enormous ego won't allow him to accept the fact that he lost the popular vote by 3M votes, he's giving this bogus speech on the "Voter Fraud Commission". Lead by a "Hair on Fire, Conspiracy Theorist" and well known Racist, Chris Kobach. Widespread voter fraud has, already, been debunked. He lied (big surprise!) saying that 30 States had signed on to release their information. 40+ States have declined so, in trump's America, there must be, over 70 States. This is a blatant attempt to satisfy his huge ego and suppress voting rights. Nothing more. He's out looking for Unicorns with the tax payers money. This is one sick (can't say what I want here) puppy!!!

GigiB87
  7/19/2017 12:02 EST

Ranger: Absolutamente!! Right now I am looking for a life (not Money Laundering Donny's life, that's for sure) on the stair master at el gimnasio. But goin' nowhere. More later!
Rdanger

MexJuan1
  7/19/2017 12:13 EST

Ah, I see. You've been given the same advice, by the same person, that I was given a long time ago. My retort, I'd rather be looking for one (actually, I have a great life!) than living a very sad, delusional existence... Enjoy!

GigiB87
  7/19/2017 15:23 EST

Seeking A Life Rdanger: Gracias, Juan. Sometimes it does seem, though, that everything I used to enjoy is now illegal, "immoral" in some way, unhealthy or prohibitively expensive, at the minimum a "bad life decision". Or all of the above. Maybe the Jefe Grande has an answer. Start your own tribe! Now I will devote the additional 10 minutes I would spend normally on this thread attempting to "get a life".

GigiB87
  7/19/2017 21:38 EST

Rdanger: As an illustration of my lament about more and more stuff becoming illegal, D bag Jeff Sessions, who wants to come down hard on legal marijuana users (Tammy, where are y'all, this is your area of expertise) just
rolled back Obama era reforms on civil asset forfeiture. Reportedly getting fire from both sides on the second one. Boy, that Donny sure knows how to pickem!

Ramzfan
  7/19/2017 22:02 EST

Boy, life must be great, just sitting around and getting drugged up all day with no worries in the world...no wonder you people are always broke and living off of the system. Now I'm beginning to understand why y'all became Democrats...!

Cozumeldeb
  7/19/2017 22:23 EST

Kill me, for answering this jackass..My 1st stock purchase was in 1969. Since u seem to equate everything with $$. Eff off..jackass.

GigiB87
  7/19/2017 23:46 EST

Ranger: No death penalty, CD. Appreciate your commentary. I've been on my own since age of 16 (1963). Put myself through college. Not easy. Made a lot of dumb mistakes. Still makin' them. Would have liked more help. Now all I seem to do is lounge around smokin' pot (one keen observer) or need to "get a life" (another fount of wisdom). Gotcha, Tammy, just wanted to see if you're still tuned in. Any improvement in that Nevada marijuana shortage? Given you are sort of our " boots on the ground" in Nevada. I know. I know. Not amusin'. Try a (strictly legal,) toke or two along with your shots, you may change
,your mind.. Buenas Noches

MexJuan1
  7/21/2017 09:37 EST

So, now we're getting to the point where trump has two choices. Let the investigation take it's course and Mueller do what he is mandated to do and uncover his (trumps) criminal activity and go to jail or have his own "Saturday Night Massacre" in firing Sessions, Rosenstein (after ordering him to fire Mueller which he won't do because there is no just cause) and, eventually, fire Mueller himself and be impeached. The "Criminal President" is cornered and flailing like a madman. I, honestly, didn't think we would get to this point, this quickly. I underestimated the level of incompetence, as well as, his level of involvement with Russia. Not to mention his stupidity. I knew he was a criminal and now the World will know. He has no domestic allies and is, rapidly, alienating anyone who has remained by his side in any way. The end is near! Thankfully...

Ramzfan
  7/21/2017 11:43 EST

I honestly do not understand why the libbies are so enchanted with this Russian thing that they're trying to hang on Trump. I mean what's the big deal? No. 1, it is pretty apparent that there never was any collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians. Even the Dems are admitting that. No.2, the meeting that Trump's son had with a Russian woman and others was obviously set up and meant nothing. There was nothing illegal about it. No.3, what is wrong with talking to Russians anyway? They're not our enemies. We're not at war with Russia. I would think that the snowflakes would be happy to see us developing a relationship with Russia that was above board and didn't include our president whispering to Putin "I'll have more power once the elections are over!"
No, if this Russian thing is all you have to hang your hat on, you'd better dream up a better smokescreen next time. Besides that, Trump just feasts on crap like this. You guys can't think of anything that can get him off balance...!

Cozumeldeb
  7/21/2017 11:51 EST

Clearly Ramzfan, you've struck, deaf, dumb + blind..Tax returns will be exposed and the gig is up..Mueller + Co are American heroes.

Ramzfan
  7/21/2017 12:03 EST

Deb, first of all, I want to congratulate you on writing an entire post (albeit short) without a cuss word. Secondly, who gives a damn about Trump's tax returns? Nobody except the libs and the IRS. The IRS already has them already and it's up to the president when they will be released to the public.

MexJuan1
  7/21/2017 12:15 EST

You're just so stupid (or just blind) to the fact that "your" president is a criminal and has and continues to be engaged in criminal activity with Putin and Russia,among others,I'm sure. He's getting nervous now because they're getting close to his (and his family's, including Jared's) financial records and tax returns which will be the final straw. I said this long ago at the beginning of all of this. Illegal financial activities, money laundering, etc... Thus, his two, remaining choices. Let the investigation take it's course and face charges or Obstruct Justice (again) and be impeached. Open your eyes man!!!

GigiB87
  7/21/2017 12:24 EST

Rdanger: Honesty has nothing' to do with it, Tammy. Now Don (Sean) Spicer has resigned. I hear he has been offered a job at that "ranch" on the outskirts of a major Nevada metro area. Just a rumor, of course.

MexJuan1
  7/21/2017 13:23 EST

"Rats" are leaving the ship before the engine explodes! What a Cluster ____!!!.The Mooch is just a mini trump wanna be and quite the financial criminal in his own right. No one else wants to work for trump anyway! Dealings with Russia? Of course! Priebus (Spicer was his guy and he doesn't like The Mooch) might be next because he knows what kind of scum bag Scaramucchi is...Looks like the "boss" is going to go down by his "You're Fired" trademark? He just can't resist the Power Move. Sessions, Rosenstein? Mueller, either way, will be his undoing. Fire him, obstruct justice once again and be impeached even sooner. If Mueller brings out the facts, and he will, the criminal will face charges and be impeached or be impeached then be indicted as a private citizen. Don't, really, care how he goes, just as long as he goes. And he will. I would LOVE to see him prosecuted though, if I'm being honest... Comey and Straub (ex Ethics Chief) both, still, have a lot to say! Spicer may talk too? All the dirt on this Dirty Guy will be coming out from the ppl who know and have seen it up close and personal.

Ramzfan
  7/21/2017 17:24 EST

I find it a true shame that people who claim to have such concern for the U.S. Constantly bitch & complain about how their president is running things but yet they never try to do their duty & help him accomplish anything. JFK once said "Ask not what your country can do for you..ask what you can do for your country!" What don't you paperdoll patriots understand about that? Those of us on the American side of the border lived for eight years with your imposter but we did it. I guess now we know who the "tolerant " party is, don't we...?

GigiB87
  7/21/2017 18:16 EST

Unpatriotic Rdanger: Tears in my eyes, Tammy. Patriotism! You have taken this.thread to new heights of... It boggles the mind. Makes me want to go out and adopt a Russian orphan. Not funny, I know. I can buy some Russian vodka?! Probably made in Mejico, tho. So far we have gotten false reasoning, distorted facts, insults directed at us Libbie's (horrors), insults directed at us because we insulted you. Well, I thought that ran the gamut, was absolutely everything you could possibly throw at us. But no!! Not yet!! Hold on, Tammy ain't finished. Now we've got, wait for it... The United States of America!!! The last argument in a low rent lawyers bag of tricks. I just hope Colin Kaepernick goes and plays for the Las Vegas Raiders... If y'all will excuse me, I have to go and sedate myself legally and have a quiet moment for the unpatriotic Sean Spicer, leavin' Donny like that... Imagine. (God Bless America plays quietly in the background.)

Ramzfan
  7/21/2017 19:08 EST

Colin Kaepernick...? Now there's a name I didn't expect . I thought he was a HERO to you smokescreen libbies He's definitely not an American! He's kind of like John McCain or Maxine Waters...not much substance but lots of BS...! I'm sorry that I brought up patriotism to any of you potheads down there, I'm sure you are not familiar with what it means...!

GigiB87
  7/21/2017 21:10 EST

Rdanger: Tammy, you need to take your lisinopril! Now, who do you suggest we look up to as Real Patriots? I'm all ears (figuratively). So Senator McCain and Maxine Waters are out. And Kaepernick. That pretty much takes care of everyone I looked up to. Give me hope, Tammy! Who do you suggest? At your convenience. I'm off to "get a life". So, is Sean Spicer a tool now? Is he still a patriot? It is sooo confusing. How do you organize that patriot/no patriot category? Jeff Sessions.... Oh, I get it. You are a patriot if Money Laundering Donny likes you, a traitor if he doesn't. Say no more+!!
No longer confused Rdanger.

giershift43
  7/21/2017 22:23 EST

Amen

giershift43
  7/22/2017 19:16 EST

Wow I agree. They aren't conservatives. They are opportunists trying to exploit fear and ignorance to political gain.

Cozumeldeb
  7/22/2017 20:18 EST

Truer words were never spoken.

GigiB87
  7/22/2017 22:38 EST

Apologetic Rdanger: I'm regretful for gettin' too serious, but can some of you so called patriots who voted for money launderin Donny wake up, smell the coffee and get some huevos (backbone for the ladies) and go outside and scream "I cannot take it no friggin' more! Impeach this simple sh.. sociopath mother f'er."! Now he is once again ignorin' separation of powers enumerated in The GD Constitution and suggesting Jeff (not a fan, but that ain't the point) Sessions resign. Please! I am tired of being asked to behave or leave the gym because I Flip Him Off every time I see his ugly, orange, wrinkled face on the tube. Maybe we should all do it....
Anyway, off to strictly legally sedate myself.
Buena's Noches

GigiB87
  7/22/2017 22:38 EST

Apologetic Rdanger: I'm regretful for gettin' too serious, but can some of you so called patriots who voted for money launderin Donny wake up, smell the coffee and get some huevos (backbone for the ladies) and go outside and scream "I cannot take it no friggin' more! Impeach this simple sh.. sociopath mother f'er."! Now he is once again ignorin' separation of powers enumerated in The GD Constitution and suggesting Jeff (not a fan, but that ain't the point) Sessions resign. Please! I am tired of being asked to behave or leave the gym because I Flip Him Off every time I see his ugly, orange, wrinkled face on the tube. Maybe we should all do it....
Anyway, off to strictly legally sedate myself.
Buena's Noches

GigiB87
  7/22/2017 23:23 EST

Sensitive to appropriate behavior Rdanger: Just jokin' about salutin' Donny in the gym. At least most of the time.

Wili74
  7/23/2017 02:06 EST

Can we do anymore than to remember the Golden Rule and work hard to learn Spanish? Not a thing you can do if confronted by a cartel situation. Treat everyone with respect and don't be stupid.

giershift43
  7/29/2017 20:33 EST

I hope. I hope further his pointless and expensive wall will never happen.

GigiB87
  7/30/2017 09:38 EST

Rdanger: Our one republican senator, sneaky Steve Pierce, who is tryin' to get the Secty of the Interior to cut back on the size of our national parks and monuments for more free stuff for welfare ranchers and oil and mining interests., said he would never vote the $$ to build the GD wall. Turns out the $$ slid through anyway in a larger bill. Stevie is runnin' for governor next year. Guess whoyour truly is voting for. Anyone But!

MexJuan1
  7/31/2017 18:53 EST

With General Kelly becoming Chief of Staff, things are going to get very "tight" in Mexico. Immigration policies are only going to get worse. He was tough as DHS and now, if the moron let's him, he'll be the boss! trump not allowing ANYONE to over shadow him could be the saving grace but, if a deal was struck, things could/will get very, very bad...

giershift43
  7/31/2017 20:56 EST

What do you mean tight?

GigiB87
  8/1/2017 11:17 EST

Too Serious Rdanger: Wow, Scary Mooch fired. I thought he was just hired? That Donny sure knows how to pick 'em. Atlantic called it most chaotic week ever for WH, which is sayin' a lot. I am interested in what he is gonna do about the 'Wall', since those little sneaks managed to sneak a couple of billion into the budget, which shouldn't be necessary since Mejico will, says Donny, pay for it. If it is anything like construction here many of the workers (hypothetically) building this ridiculous elefante blanco will be either born in Mexico or of Mexican ancestry. Anyway, the damage this fool has caused is incalculable and will take years to repair once he departs in disgrace. An aside, CONSERVATIVE commentator Andrew Sullivan called Barack Obama the greatest living President. Think about it, haters!

giershift43
  8/1/2017 11:54 EST

Great comments

edwater47
  8/1/2017 15:06 EST

Andrew Sullivan is a rudderless human being. He explains that his life is just that of going. Not that he knows where he is going or what he seeks other than the nothingness of going. To understand him, why not read his own words as recorded on an interview by NPR radio July 4, 2005. To wit:

"I believe in the pursuit of happiness. Not its attainment, nor its final definition, but its pursuit. I believe in the journey, not the arrival; in conversation, not monologues; in multiple questions rather than any single answer. I believe in the struggle to remake ourselves and challenge each other in the spirit of eternal forgiveness, in the awareness that none of us knows for sure what happiness truly is, but each of us knows the imperative to keep searching. I believe in the possibility of surprising joy, of serenity through pain, of homecoming through exile."

If this sort of gobbledygook and non-sense thrills you to read and then excitedly exclaim, "Amen!", then you are as lost a soul as poor Andrew. I'm sure President Obama accepts the accolade from Andrew with the same honesty and humility he used when he proclaimed to the nation, that, "If you LIKE your Doctor, you can Keep your Doctor! If you like your Plan, you can KEEP your plan!". Ahhh, yes. The greatest living President, that was happy to tell us all that the 'new normal' for America was a 1.5% annual GDP growth. And that 99 weeks of unemployment compensation was soon to be the law of the land. So pick up your tin cup and stand proud in the soup lines forming all over this once great land!

President Trump is no politician. He is not politically correct. He is not an eloquent speaker, as we enjoyed for the last eight years. He is a builder. He is successful in doing that. He is a family man who has raised a brood of children that any parent would be proud to call his own. The proof of this man's ability to lead is unquestioned by anyone willing to look closely at his record. He surrounds himself with others he believes are like minded, extraordinarily competent and successful in their own chosen fields of endeavor. In the six months of this first four years, he has fulfilled many of the promises he made in the campaign and continues to be focused on fulfilling more as time permits.

Your expectation of seeing President Trump leave office in disgrace is as likely as I am to see President Obama officially enshrined as the greatest living president.

GigiB87
  8/1/2017 15:20 EST

Rdanger: Gracias, amiga. Espero que el viaje all lago bonito esta muy bien.

MexJuan1
  8/1/2017 17:23 EST

The "Wall", will NEVER be built and if by some miracle it is, it won't be the don doing it! Think he'll ever survive a third Obstruction of Justice, Mueller or Congress if he fires Sessions and Mueller? Think again. He won't. Ever to be known as the Clown Criminal who by hook and crook became president. If anyone thinks for one instant that Gen. Kelly will right this sinking ship, think again. As long as Ivanka and Jared are in the WH, and trump listens to and trusts no one else, he's doomed to fail. Thankfully!!!

giershift43
  8/1/2017 17:45 EST

Thank you Mexjuan

GigiB87
  8/1/2017 20:03 EST

Rdanger: Wow! Quite an intellectual 'tour de force'. So, given your astute powers of observation and high falutin' vocabulary, and your powerful ability to quote selective and DEVASTATING verbiage from Conservative and Dems alike, who the hell do you like dude? Obviously not Conservative, pathetic hedonist Andrew Sullivan. At least not any longer. Money laundering, whining, pouting, bullying Donny? Who else! Really. Don't get me wrong, no one does a 4 year old spoiled child better. I really consider it an art form, and worthy of admiration since he is Actually Friggin' 70! He is a striking and colorful combination of any Charles Dickens villain and Leona Helmsley. And I Like It.! The constant melodrama, the unnecessary firings, the petulant temper tantrums, the innuendos of incest, etc. etc. etc. It never fsils to entertain. Just glad I have my strictly legal medical marijuana. Think we'll probably get to keep that, and the ACA. How about Charles Krauthammer. Is he on the out with the far, far, far right crowd too now? Hope so.. Thanks for the chuckles.

GigiB87
  8/1/2017 20:10 EST

Rdanger: And actually, Don Jr., have a toke or 2 before you put out something you clearly don't get and assume, because You Don't Get It, that it is gobbledygook. But I forgive y'all. Im gonna start calling him, as you so astutely pointed out, Family Man Donny! Because, well, just because Ivanka is not n his cabinet. So there;

GigiB87
  8/1/2017 20:21 EST

Rdanger: Just reread that Sullivan quote. I actually like it. And I'll bet you do too, Ed! Deep down it is part of your journey of self discovery! Thanks for sharing' Heavy thoughts, dude.

MexJuan1
  8/1/2017 21:00 EST

POTUS should be competent to hold office, able to do the job, respectful and worthy of same. NOT entertaining...

GigiB87
  8/1/2017 23:25 EST

Rdanger: Ya think? No F... Sh....! Maybe I was being a little too obtuse. Trying not to take myself too seriously.

kleinm
  8/2/2017 04:38 EST

touche

kleinm
  8/2/2017 04:38 EST

touche

kleinm
  8/2/2017 04:38 EST

touche

GigiB87
  8/2/2017 10:27 EST

Rdanger: Mon amis, I think there is entirely too much 'Francaise' creeping into our North American posts. I refer to that great American movie (s), esp the one with the Great Gene Kelly, Forget Alexander Dumas. We make movies in this country! The Three Musketeers. Donnie would be the evil Cardinal, oui? Problem is. Catholics cant have children. Ah, they are causing him too much trouble anyway. Bernie the Duke of Buckingham (I'm sure Bill would love the part.). Don't think HRC would fit as Lana Turner. Aargh, can't make this analogy work. WH these days probably works better as a scary movie where the pod people are gradually taking over the real folks, like us. Only way you can spot a real human being'. They are smokin' medical/recreational strictly legal .....you know what (,apologies for qualify of early am humor).

GigiB87
  8/2/2017 10:51 EST

Rdanger: Yes, I know Catholics have a lot of children. And an unruly lot they are, having had many childhood friends in Catholic schools. Catholic clergy ain't supposed to. Just sayin'

MexJuan1
  8/2/2017 11:02 EST

Unless you, only, want to watch TCM or AMC, most movies are, at minimum, financed by foreign money and many are filmed in foreign countries. Ask Steve Mnuchin, Executive Producer of many movies. And I just watched a CBSN Report the other night about how they bring cheap, foreign labor from Poland, Slovenia, etc., in to the U.S. to build the car plants, ie, Tesla, Mercedes Benz, Volkswagen, BMW and it's the POLITICIANS who fast track the H1/H2 Visas for the workers. They even bypass the Unions due to Political Involvement. Bottom line, if a Politicians lips are moving, they're lying. For djt, it's just his normal way of life... BTW, still building many American cars in Mexico and unless NAFTA is totally trashed, that will continue. C'est la vie. ;-)

GigiB87
  8/2/2017 11:19 EST

Rdanger: Appreciate the info. I'm sure you must be correct.

GigiB87
  8/2/2017 14:41 EST

Rdanger; Is it just me or are N Korean missiles flyin' around with greater abandon now that we have Lyin' (Boy Scouts, Mex Prez) Family Man Donny in charge. Who can't even agree with himself as to who to hire/fire and who has very little respect from our traditional allies who are generally sophisticated enough to see him for what he is, a power hungry control freak! He is a scary wild card (not a good thing for international diplomacy, righties) and the other equally competent people A. Sullivan loving Ed referred to come and go like dust in the wind (or Idi Amin's cabinet members and advisors).
Concerned Rdanger

GigiB87
  8/3/2017 10:44 EST

Raging Rdanger: Current approval ratings for that Raging Liberal John McCain 60% among Independents, 74% among Dems. Seems like #s should be.reversed. Money laundering Compulsive liar Donnie more like 36%, less than half that 74% figure. Can't wait to hit the gym and watch that communist news outlet CNN and see what colorful hijinks our hard working family man is up to today (sarcasm) .

MexJuan1
  8/4/2017 07:13 EST

Bob Mueller's convening of a Grand Jury. Mark it on your calenders Ramzfan, worxs, hrlee and any other fool who supported and/or voted for a KNOWN CRIMINAL to become the POTUS. In the immortal words of Roy Orbison, "It's over......It's over, it's over, it's over! " Criminal charges to come for many of the liars. Walking Papers for sure for the "King" and hopefully, possibly, an indictment of MONEY LAUNDERING, OBSTRUCTING JUSTICE AND TREASON! Tax Returns coming soon. I wonder if THE RAT will run or stay and face the music? Has to be an exit strategy. Lying to a Grand Jury (and what else can he do? That's all he knows!) and you're behind bars. Now that's REALITY (TV). What a freaking joke?! Well, at least, it's coming to an end soon. The Republicans
(Graham, Grassley, McCain, Flake et al) are turning on him and protecting Mueller so, stick a fork in TRUMP. HE'S DONE...

Cozumeldeb
  8/4/2017 10:08 EST

Yea, so excited when this was announced..wonder who has already rolled..My guess he will bail on a real or phoney health issue, like a stroke, losing speech would be convenient.

kleinm
  8/4/2017 10:12 EST

I'm sure this has to be a rumor,but it seems to be going around ? The Donald has taken his yacht out of dry dock, there seem's to have been some confusion, at the dock . the Donald was heard yelling, ( not this Yacht, I said the one that i call Exit Strategy ) I'm sure someone is looking for a new JOB ?

kleinm
  8/4/2017 10:13 EST

I'm sure this has to be a rumor,but it seems to be going around ? The Donald has taken his yacht out of dry dock, there seem's to have been some confusion, at the dock . the Donald was heard yelling, ( not this Yacht, I said the one that i call Exit Strategy ) I'm sure someone is looking for a new JOB ?

MexJuan1
  8/4/2017 10:32 EST

Ya, Trump! He's going to be looked ng for a new country! Exit Strategy for sure... BTW, I talked to a guy who was ex-Navy and involved in the transport if that Yacht. Trump stiffed the guy on the remodel according to him. Big surprise, I know!!! Maybe he'll be on an upcoming Episode of "I ALMOST Got Away With It" Back to Reality TV where he belongs...

kleinm
  8/4/2017 11:28 EST

In fairness, to the deck hands and Captain ,The captain to the defense of the crew Allegedly had the last parting words, something like Mr President we have a much larger problem ? the route we plotted it seems we've been denied access to any of the neighboring Countries ?

GigiB87
  8/4/2017 11:37 EST

Rdanger: Sure hope so. And if it comes pass it will be televised! Gil Scott Heron quote comes to mind. "Try to make it real compared to what's not!" (Not sure why, just woke up!) "Sock it to me!"
General serious hypothetical question, from all the craziness I recall with Clinton and Tricky Dick. Removal doesn't automatically come with impeachment. Correct? Congress would have to vote to remove him, yes? Can a sitting President (arghh) be arrested or would he have to be convinced to resign (like Nixon?. And then probably pardoned by Pence (like Ford did). Long ways to go before that.

GigiB87
  8/4/2017 12:08 EST

Rdanger: NY Times article today re: Mexico. Deadliest year on Record! Sad to see, but realize it is generally localized and not happening everywhere. Colima mentioned specifically, but haven't read it yet! Off to gym to watch Dancin' Donnie and colorful criminal supportin' cast on communist television (CNN).

ghammond
  8/4/2017 14:53 EST

Occasionally I drop by this thread to see how you Libbs are holding up. As usual you are in “total meltdown mode”. I don't drop in often as the BS seems to download slowly,
I should send MexJuan1 some of the cocktails that they serve to tourists in Cancun. He could drink them with all the crow he will be eating. However, I realized that he has already drank so much “Cool Aid”, that it’s likely his next trip will be to Peoples Temple's Jonestown, Guyana, hunting for Che Guevara, and Jim Jones. Hate to tell you MexJuan1, but they have assumed room temperature. The socialist/communist policies that they espoused have failed every time they have been tried. As Winston Churchill said “Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy…. it’s inherent virtue is equal sharing of misery”. Now I do realize that the Libbs on this thread lean much more to Communism than Socialism, but the outcome is very similar.

edwater47
  8/4/2017 15:03 EST

Well said, ghammond.

MexJuan1
  8/4/2017 15:13 EST

As is and will be "Trumpism". TOTAL FAILURE!!!

GigiB87
  8/4/2017 16:07 EST

Rdanger: Thank you so much for "dropping by" to tell us you "dropped by". Insightful...
Really. Y'all can't carry MJ1s .... (fill in the blank), dude, Well, anyway, hear S. Spicer turned down a place on Dancing with the Stars, which you might find more interesting. Now, what are Donny's favorability ratings? Let's hear it!
Cocktail drinkin'/Rdanger.

GigiB87
  8/4/2017 16:14 EST

Communist Rdanger: And dude y'all couldn't tell the difference between, Marxist-Leninist Communism, Maoist Commumism, various forms of Socialism, Laissez faire Capitalism etc. etc. I ain't quoting Churchill but my quote is "Pompous asses can selectively quote Churchill without having a clue what he was all about." I said that! Try quoting/reading Bertrand Russell sometime.

GigiB87
  8/4/2017 16:15 EST

Communist Rdanger: And dude y'all couldn't tell the difference between, Marxist-Leninist Communism, Maoist Commumism, various forms of Socialism, Laissez faire Capitalism etc. etc. I ain't quoting Churchill but my quote is "Pompous asses can selectively quote Churchill without having a clue what he was all about." I said that! Try quoting/reading Bertrand Russell sometime.

Cozumeldeb
  8/4/2017 17:00 EST

Ghammond, assume you live in MX, for some reason..money. Assume you are retired on social security, Medicare + pension..Every program you and all the rest of Americans benefit from came from Democrats and Rethugs fought tooth and nail against social security, Medicare, in fact Ryan/McConnell are attacking it again. If u did not have these benefits today you would be trying to scratch out a living and working till u dropped. No cushy retirement. You should be ashamed.

Iturbide
  8/4/2017 17:20 EST

Gigi... like your lingo and writing.. so funny.. tell 'em Trumpistas off .. heh heh

GigiB87
  8/4/2017 18:48 EST

Rdanger: Well said, edwater47, most intelligible, concise statement y'all have made to date. Keep it to one or two sentences and y'all will be fine. And while you're at it you 2 goofballs should work on distinguishing between communism and socialism. So friggin stupid... Hate to break it to you but US has been a Capitalist nation with components that are socialistic, or a Socialist nation.... Etc.etc. for a long, long time. Get over it!

GigiB87
  8/4/2017 20:34 EST

Rdanger: Not Gigi, using her account as my posts weren't getting put up. But Gracias! Iturbe, from both of us. As well as the numerous other personalities I have, accordin' to Tammy (comrade Ramzfanny).

Iturbide
  8/4/2017 20:46 EST

De Nada Gigi y Rang; Believe your posts straight from tu corazon, Which sets and educates them Trumpistas "soon-to-be: M..I A,
when Mueller's probe is over ;)

edwater47
  8/5/2017 00:48 EST

Crediting Shakespeare from Hamlet, "Therefore, since brevity is the soul of wit, And tediousness the limbs and outward flourishes,I will be brief."

ghammond
  8/5/2017 10:12 EST

Rdanger here, GigiB87 you wanted me to nuance the differences between Marxist-Leninist Communism, Maoist Communism, various forms of Socialism. Marx, Lenin, Mao, Pol Pot, Kim Jong-il, Khmer Rouge, Marshal Tito, and the list goes on and on. They are responsible for the wholesale murder of 10’s of millions of people, trying to implement their Utopia. That’s the nuance!!! As far as the Socialists go they are just Communist in bright red lipstick and high heals. UK’s socialist health care system would rather kill a baby than allow his parents to take him to the US for a chance (all be it slim) of helping him.

ghammond
  8/5/2017 10:42 EST

Rdanger here, Since you Libbs have decided to dub all conservatives “Rdanger” I’ve decided to dub you Libbs “Scarecrow”. you know like “if you only had a brain”. Cozumeldeb, “Scarecrow”, your assumption is incorrect, I moved to MX for the warm beaches and wonderful people.
I paid into Social Security for all of my adult life. Most of it was at 15% of my wages because I was self employed. I will never get back what I paid in. However early on I realized that paying money to the Wizard of Washington would only be misappropriated by the Wicked Witches. I set up a system of saving, and investing because I knew that SS would not be enough (sorry Scarecrow you need a brain for that).
I also paid Medicare taxes that whole time. It’s a “no brainier “ to know that Medicare isn’t available outside the US. As you skip down the Yellow Brick Road, remember that things aren't always what they seem.

GigiB87
  8/5/2017 10:45 EST

Rdanger: No nuances there. We can probably blame the human condition for the horror inflicted by every form of government in your lazy, sad ass lack of a definition of various forms of government. Oil companies, Christianity, the Muslim religion, colonialism, slavery and child labor utilized extensively in the US, etc. etc. Bush Jr., f... ,up War. and US attempted exportation of democracy. You are intellectually lazy and figure you don't need to understand something because you jump to the assumption that it doesn't work. l don't define you by your dumb ass posts. I don't (try not to) think in stereotypes. Y'all shouldn't either. There is a very interestin' book by Thomas Sowell, Economic Facts and Fallacies, which is far from a liberal book but is interesting, open minded and goes outside conventional boxes. I think you suffer from the assumption that a corrupt, inefficient (in terms of providing goods and services consumers want) corporation will always fail while a corrupt, inefficient government will persist. Wrong! Competitive firms, in economic terms, only exist in Econ 101, which you prob haven't taken but some of your econ d... ,bags late nite radio haters have. And got a C-!! Anyway, hate to admit it ed but that was a great quote. I like the Buffalo Springfield song " For What Its Worth " (think I got that right...) Keep trying', ghammond. Sad y'all think Donnie is just like you. You are being manipulated!

giershift43
  8/5/2017 10:54 EST

I guess you can read the mods of people you call libbies. No bias there!

GigiB87
  8/5/2017 11:01 EST

Rdanger: Also not too bright, in terms of accounting, if you couldn't manage your $$ better. Plenty of loopholes in tax system...just sayin'. Taxes are a little like social insurance. Some benefit more than others, and some of them are stupid and unfair, but those of us with Some Intelligence try to keep those that will lift up all of us because there are those of us, not all just Libbies but possibly unlike y'all who dont feel good drivin' past a slum because it Makes Me Feel Superior!!! Slums are gettin' bigger and your boys are movin' into gated communities here in US! Congrats.
Scarecrow Gotta get out My Bartlett's to sound Smart Rdanger!

giershift43
  8/5/2017 11:01 EST

Painting with a broad brush and a lot of bias. Call it what you want the U.S. has the most expensive health care in the world, but about 34th in quality. There is no need for health insurance to be for profit. It has not improved quality nor reduced price which is the premise for free market capitalism in an industry.

GigiB87
  8/5/2017 11:04 EST

Rdanger: Also not too bright, in terms of accounting, if you couldn't manage your $$ better. Plenty of loopholes in tax system...just sayin'. Taxes are a little like social insurance. Some benefit more than others, and some of them are stupid and unfair, but those of us with Some Intelligence try to keep those that will lift up all of us because there are those of us, not all just Libbies but possibly unlike y'all who dont feel good drivin' past a slum because it Makes Me Feel Superior!!! Slums are gettin' bigger and your boys are movin' into gated communities here in US! Congrats.
Scarecrow Gotta get out My Bartlett's to sound Smart Rdanger!

Cozumeldeb
  8/5/2017 11:35 EST

I already regret this, but whatever, leaving u unchallenged is not an option ghammond. Learning your work history and retirement action plan is all well and good, where it goes off the rails is your belief you & GOP voters are the only people who've worked, saved, invested and are successful..Wrong. You speak of warm beaches and wonderful people, yet support this criminal in the WH. Ignoring facts clinging to fake Fox News, showing no independent self analysis. MX tapes released this wk with Trump begging Nieto to go along with the worthless wall story. Not 1, but today announced several grand juries have been empanelled, so moving into next phase, hopefully before Twitler decides to go after N. Korea to divert the attention that he is a criminal, always has been a criminal, now he is a traitor.

GigiB87
  8/5/2017 13:58 EST

Rdanger: Absolutamente! Y'all should listen to that old Dylan song "Masters of War"!!!!

GigiB87
  8/6/2017 05:01 EST

Rdanger; Since y'all made reference to one of the greatest movies and children' s books of all time. Sr. Hammond I thought you would like. to know it was written by L Frank Baum an American Farmer in part as a social and economic critique. It referred to William Jennings Bryan, the cowardly lion who was trying to break from the gold standard and the grip of the Eastern Bankers (wicked witch of the East) and ran 3 times for President. The Scarecrow was the American farmer, oppressed by these interests, As Usual!, while the Tin Woodman was the American Industrial worker. Oz (I've heard short for an ounce, gold and silver, not pot) was Washington and I suspect the Wizard was the President, everything done with smoke and mirrors. Dorothy returns home with Silver (not ruby) slippers in the book, again referring to the silver standard WJ Bryan referred to in his 'Cross of Gold' speech. Research it! By the way this was before significant banking regs. Banks issued there own money, deposits weren't insured, and newsletters were distributed to inform the regular folk which ones were still solvent, as they failed with some regularity and the value of their money would fluctuate greatly. So your Wizard of Oz parable ain't the real parable. The real story behind it is a populist story! Sorry to disappoint.

GigiB87
  8/6/2017 05:12 EST

Rdanger: And of course the yellow brick road was the gold standard, the debate about which was a huge deal at the time. WJ Bryant was also the dude who fought Clarence Darrow (Spencer Tracy) in court in the legal case represented in the movie Inherit the Wind! But y'all were probably watchin' ,Cannonball Run (Burt Reynolds).

GigiB87
  8/7/2017 18:35 EST

Rdanger: So I hear Donnie is bein' accused by a Mexican diplomat of "Speaking loudly and carryin' a small stick." How dare he!??!!

Iturbide
  8/7/2017 19:58 EST

gigi ; re small stick ; like his manos pequeñas... Ha ha

Ramzfan
  8/7/2017 20:43 EST

Very interesting posts here. I've never heard any of them before. Thanks all!

ghammond
  8/7/2017 22:15 EST

Rdanger here, GigiB87 (Scarecrow), you really should drop the phony “redneck y’all" crap. It just doesn’t fit your Northeast liberal elite status.
Your NELE status does, however make you uniquely qualified in small “sticks”.

giershift43
  8/7/2017 22:18 EST

lol

GigiB87
  8/8/2017 06:19 EST

Rdanger: Ghammond, you are absolutely correct, old bean. Mater and Pater back in old Brittania (and my governess) raised me to attempt to lower my speech patterns and colloquialisms to the level of the indigenous fauna and flora ( I.e. y'all ya dumd f...n bolsa de basura! Sadly, British nobility isn't what it used to be, and my Cambridge education in the liberal arts is generally useful only during spirited conversations at tea time and we are renting the family mansion out to the Trump organization who are planning to use it as a, well, hideout is the word you hideous, Bermuda short wearing, sunburnt, excessively loud Americans (as though Canada and Mexico aren't part of 'America, might utilize.
Cherrio!

GigiB87
  8/8/2017 06:29 EST

Rdanger: Tammy, well said, best post yet! Well, off to tour the grounds of the family estate. The early bird, and all that, as you colonials like to say...
Disbelieving how dumb and delusional some of y'all righties really are. Please Tell Me It Is Just An Act! Rdanger.

GigiB87
  8/8/2017 06:29 EST

Rdanger: Tammy, well said, best post yet! Well, off to tour the grounds of the family estate. The early bird, and all that, as you colonials like to say...
Disbelieving how dumb and delusional some of y'all righties really are. Please Tell Me It Is Just An Act! Rdanger.

GigiB87
  8/8/2017 06:30 EST

Rdanger: Tammy, well said, best post yet! Well, off to tour the grounds of the family estate. The early bird, and all that, as you colonials like to say...
Disbelieving how dumb and delusional some of y'all righties really are. Please Tell Me It Is Just An Act! Rdanger.

Cozumeldeb
  8/8/2017 09:06 EST

Bahahaha, you forgot the "Pip Pip + Cheerio!

kleinm
  8/8/2017 09:26 EST

I think my response was preempt ? it kinda was 1 sided basically it went i'm not keeping score but even i know it was (sunk your battleship )time well played you all touche

Rdanger
  8/10/2017 13:26 EST

Well, I must apologize to Ghammond since he has chosen to adopt my "nom de plume", in admiration I am sure. This is a test to see if I can post with my own log in or if I must rely upon my friend "Gigi" yet again. If this works I suppose I should start my post with "Ghammond here" but I am afraid they will mistake me for him and I will get a visit from the fashion police (bad taste is a serious offense in Mejico) and since not all of them speak ingles they will arrest me not only for my sunburnt face, yellow and green plaid shorts, excessively large sandals but furthermore mistake my bumper sticker with Donnie's face, with "Stop Bigotry" underneath as a sign of admiration for that orange haired, money laundering idiota.
Patriotic but Cautious Rdanger!

GigiB87
  8/15/2017 11:03 EST

Rdanger: Amused looking back over this thread.. It started out with posts demanding, pleading, crying out that this thread be shut down. Now it has graduated to new threads demanding this thread be shut down. There goes the neighborhood so to speak. I will keep postin' as long as Donnie's boyz,- you know, the Trump crime family, are still in the WH. If anyone else is interested. And don't tell me the toxic Trump rhetoric, plans for the Wall, and the way increased deportations and border interdictions have not just begun to irritate the Mexican populace but the CARTELS, contributing to the skyrocketing murder rate. Which has to affect expats. Doesn't make me happy. A number of programs for seniors are being' cut in my state, but we ain't gonna send Donnie's boys are voter lists and I have to believe this dude is makin' it very difficult for decent people in his party to run with someone who has pissed off half the world and has a % favorability rating in the mid 30s. Finally, politics is found in any aspects of daily life, from work to marriage etc. etc. I still don't get the ",Get Off My Lawn," approach. Get Donnie off the world stage and I'll be happy to discuss issues normal, happy folks may enjoy.

Ramzfan
  8/15/2017 20:11 EST

Well, first of all, Gigi, the way to reach out and try to get new posters is NOT to say "your welcome to come in but DONT tell me your opinion if it differs from mine...!" Even children learn to structure an invitation better than that...!

GigiB87
  8/15/2017 22:04 EST

Rdanger: Tammy, you are so right. And talented. You possess the inimitable and valuable skill of saying nothin' using as many words as possible. And makin' us think y'all actually said somethin'.Guess they finally let y'all out of rehab. Congrats. I predict an opening for you in Money laundering Donnie's Cabinet (temporary of course). Kind of the male Kellyanne Conway. Now off for some strictly legal medical marijuana. Missed all that nonsense you love to spout off from your cozy little alternate reality. Toodles!

ghammond
  8/15/2017 22:41 EST

GigiB87 (Scarecrow), If you only had a brain !! You really are a giant waste of oxygen. Your bloviating has contributed more to global warming than all the factories in China. The EPA is looking for you.
Notice I’ve adopted your strategy of not saying anything of substance. Like you I will just throw s--t around at people, and believe it’s true.

GigiB87
  8/16/2017 00:23 EST

Rdanger: Awful' big words for a nasty (Nazi?) little man who gets his kicks gettin' beat up by chicks. I find your right wing content free clown car hate sho w endlessly entertaining. Y'alls cojones would shrivel up to nothin' if you had to say any of this face to face to a real man or woman. Bloviate! Wow, bet you could at least place in a 3d grade spelling bee. Keep it up, please! Tell me more, Mr.Hammond. Your genius lies in your banality. Love it!

GigiB87
  8/16/2017 00:33 EST

Oh, and by the way, old bean, the narrative about L. Frank Baum is absolutely true. But I would expect a fool to be at best unintentionally a liar, knowing no better and understanding little, accusing others of the flaws he himself possesses. Now thats as serious as I'm gonna get. Know you don't get it. That's why you have a malignant sociopath ad your hero and love object. Must be against the law....

GigiB87
  8/16/2017 04:23 EST

Rdanger: Apologies for the coarseness of my language to those on this thread who have the capacity for kindness, sensitivity and compassion. Those words were clearly not directed at you. I am no big deal myself and realize that but what is going on right now is intolerable and it is time to stand up to these GD fascists so we can get our country back.. For the rest of y'all who know how to hate and started doing so big time during the Obama administration but lack the clarity of reason get over it. I ain't stoppin'.
Bloviating Scarecrow Rdanger..

MexJuan1
  8/16/2017 06:11 EST

I suppose, in one sense, that the alt sentiment, the out and out nature of the White Supremacist's alignment and power with a racist, bigoted president/administration is, simply, a truer statement of how things, really, are in America. It's saying OUT LOUD what exists just beneath the surface. America is a, highly, racist country! Not, really, surprising when you think about the aspects of a Capitalistic Dictatorship and how a system like that works. Hell, Charlie Mansion, Crazy Charlie knew this a long time ago and in a sense, was positioning himself, in a stranger way, to be where trump is now. But, stating the obvious is the easy way out and living on the "fringes" is not acceptable and is a downward slide in Civic Progress. Racists like trump, bannon, Miller, gorka and other fascist, nazi, alt right leaning ppl are an abheration to every day existence in a once great country that is, rapidly, sliding off the map! Someone, somehow has to stop this regression into Hell!!! Things are being contained, barely but, unless and until these ppl are gone, the, rapid, decline of America into what is, now, beyond the "Good Old Boy Network" will continue and Civil War, the Moral Decline and Death will reign. America made a huge mistake and someone, somehow, some way needs to fix it! Trump and Co. are America's Anti-Christ...

Iturbide
  8/16/2017 09:00 EST

Gigi; Crack up when I read yer posts; with lingo so funny ...!!, yet with much truths. Kudos and gracias for standing up to the alt-right, vile arrogance/ignorance.

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