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Ashkans
  3/30/2017 21:04 EST

I am new to this forum. Considering relocating from US to Mexico with my 3 children. I've heard of expats living in rosarito or playas de Tijuana and commuting across the border to work everyday, anybody have experience with this? I am a registered nurse and I'm not sure what the laws in Mexico are on foreign Nurses. The father of my children is originally from Mexico though it's been over 20 years since he has been there he would be moving as well and is fluent in Spanish. I have a friend in Monterrey as well, what is it like living there as an expat? Mostly I'm curious about safety for my children as we all know the terrible light the US sheds on Mexico. I'm not sure if I would rather live where I can commute and work in US or live further into Mexico and work there. Any advice or experiences would be so appreciated!

RVGRINGO
  3/31/2017 12:47 EST

You may find the commute across the border will take more time than you are willing to spend.
You and your mate should go to the nearest Mexican consulate and register your children with them as Mexican citizens. Dual citizenship has many advantages. Once done, you may apply, as their mother, for a residence visa under vincula familiar rules, with your mate as your common law husband. This will avoid problems with schools, etc., and will shorten the time it will tak you to become Residente Permanente with the ability to work, or even become a naturalized citizen; ie: a dual citizen yourself. Meanwhile, you will have to learn Spanish if you want any chance to qualify for a Mexican professional cedula through their system, enabling you to look for work as a nurse.
Buena suerte.

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nancyfuster
  4/7/2017 09:32 EST

As far as safety..do you read USA news? I feel TEN times more safe here in Ajijic, Mexico! I have 2 Grandchildren here n trying to convince my other daughter to escape USA before the economic bubble bursts!" You see those animals on Black Fridays? Can you imagine if stores are running out of food how they will behave??? get out while you can!

giershift43
  4/7/2017 13:30 EST

Sometimes I think of buying a house in Mexico is important because family may needs to escape the chaos Trump is capable of creating and seems to enjoy..

Ashkans
  4/8/2017 20:56 EST

I know what you mean! People who I have mentioned this idea to say I'm crazy because of the crime rates here but US has terribly high crime rates, selfishness and greed. I want to raise my children where they will learn to appreciate eachother rather than always wanting things. Thank you for your response.

Marinoni14
  4/13/2017 13:48 EST

If I may, you really need to check the crime stats in TJ. Nothing in the States comes close to the northern Baja and that area is on track for a record year of violent crime. Yes, I have lived in the area I am commenting on. Selfishness and greed are in Mexico as well as I have recently learned. That's the untold story. There are no special lessons to be learned for your children in Mexico other than becoming bilingual. And the fact is, there is no financial or career future for them in Mexico as MX wages don't really allow for that. With a nursing degree you have so many options to live almost anywhere you want if you would be willing to give up your current position.

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Ashkans
  4/13/2017 17:41 EST

Where in Mexico would you suggest? My reason for living near the border, preferably rosarito is so I can still work in the US as I've heard it's difficult to work as a nurse in Mexico and the pay is next to nothing. Thank you for your honest opinion!

Marinoni14
  4/13/2017 20:11 EST

"As far as safety..do you read USA news? I feel TEN times more safe here in Ajijic, Mexico!"
The poster is looking to be close to the border for employment reason. I need to check out Ajijic one day, sounds nice.

giershift43
  4/14/2017 00:17 EST

I love ajijic

Cozumeldeb
  4/14/2017 11:57 EST

Nurses without Borders might be something to check.

katzgar
  4/17/2017 08:44 EST

The homicide rate in Mexico is 15.7/100,000 in the US it is 3.9/100,000 or is this one of the facts dont matter threads

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WoodWorker
  4/17/2017 11:18 EST

"The homicide rate in Mexico is 15.7/100,000 in the US it is 3.9/100,000 or is this one of the facts dont matter threads"

She was considering TJ or Rosarito and the number is more like 67/100,000, so more than 4 times the national number and 16 times the U.S. national number.

Ashkans
  4/17/2017 13:05 EST

In 2016 St. Louis Missouri had a murder rate of 60 per 100,000. Just wanted to put that info out there.

MexJuan1
  4/17/2017 13:34 EST

2017 World Crime Rankings. Mexico #45 at 50.32. U.S. #53 at 48.76. Those are overall, current crime rankings for 2017. Not, really, that much difference, is there now? Anywhere in the World these days, you just have to use your "noodle". Venezuela is #1 with an 85.28 ranking. I went there on a boat from Aruba some 20+ years ago. It was dangerous then too!

Ashkans
  4/17/2017 15:12 EST

It is dangerous everywhere I agree. Which part of Mexico are you in mexjuan?

MexJuan1
  4/17/2017 16:25 EST

Playa del Carmen. I, pretty much, keep to myself though. I don't drink/smoke so clubs and bars don't have any lure for me. I don't do drugs so I have no need to mingle in those types of crowds. I walk, bike and swim everyday. I read a lot. Watch movies, enjoy TV at times. Walk or bike to several tiny local sidewalk cafes to eat or cook at home and go to the grocery store or Oxxo from time to time. And I travel some from time to time. I was the oldest of 7 and raised very strictly (to be a professional athlete) so, in my adult life, I've been, kind of, a loner and enjoy my life a great deal. I love the heat and enjoy watching the ppl in town and on the beach... I stay below the radar and thus, very safe here.

Cozumeldeb
  4/17/2017 17:52 EST

Source for your kill % in US v MX.

MexJuan1
  4/17/2017 18:02 EST

If you're asking me deb, it was Numbeo. > country> crime ranking 2017. And it was total crime, not just murder.

katzgar
  4/17/2017 18:17 EST

some perspective... http://mexidata.info/id4051.html

like everything else in Mexico what is said and what is real are 2 different things.

MexJuan1
  4/17/2017 18:27 EST

I get what you're saying but, let's face it, that happens in every "vacation destination" country or city. I worked in Las Vegas for 8 years. 3 of them Downtown from 1977-1979. Old Vegas when "The Boys" we're very prominent. I saw and heard of many crimes that didn't appear in the paper and, certainly, not on the 6:00 news! I worked with a guy from New Orleans at the Tropicana. He told me the same thing. Especially during Mardi Grad! I'm, pretty sure, that's a universal practice but, I agree that published stats aren't, necessarily, reality.

Ashkans
  4/17/2017 19:07 EST

I live in a small town population about 15,000. Every now and then there will be a violent crime hit the papers but overall it appears to be a very safe town. But I worked in the ER and saw how much violence goes on without making the news. It's everywhere and there are many very dangerous cities here in the states where you do not want to live and there are some that have very high violent crime ratings but they are mainly in certain areas and the cities for the most part are generally safe. A lot of crime that occurs here is random acts of violence. From what I've read and heard from people who live in Mexico, most of the violence is focused around drugs. I may be wrong. This is why I'm trying to get info. I'd love to move to a place such as ajijic but finding work is my biggest concern.

MexJuan1
  4/17/2017 19:19 EST

It's just a dangerous World, let's face facts. I miss the '50s when I could play outside at night in the dark as a kid and the '6O's when I could take the City Bus at age 12 downtown and go to a movie by myself and the music was so great and the '70s when everyone smoked pot and did drugs JUST to have fun and safe sex and the music was STILL GREAT! I guess that's what it's like "getting old". Of course the World had it's problems then too but, "coke" in the '80s, I think, changed things for the worse and worst yet to come. Just waxing nostalgic and my opinion.

giershift43
  4/17/2017 19:31 EST

What I have always read and heard is that the highest crime areas in Mexico tend to be in the States bordering the U.S.A.
Since the U.S.A. is a huge customer fight for that market goes on. That's why I think the war on drug is just a never ending failure and another approaches needs to be tried.

giershift43
  4/17/2017 19:36 EST

Ashkans,
My husband and I visited Ajijic and the Lake Chapala area late January and early February, I am 67 and my husband is blind. We walked around and felt very safe. We are easy targets and are aware of it. I thought of Ajijic as the little town where they roll up the sidewalks at night. But at my age that is fine.

MexJuan1
  4/17/2017 20:02 EST

The so called War on Drugs, is big business for the Political, Judicial and Criminal Justice Systems in the U.S. Plain and simple. A huge, multi trillion dollar drain on tax payers and a total failure from day one to this very day! I knew a guy in Ohio who got 20 years for an ounce of Pot. No priors... Like I've said many times, read about Portugal's highly progressive and successful policy on drugs. Uruguay and several other C.A. and S.A. countries are soon to follow suit in one fashion or another. Bottom line, it's the only viable solution.

giershift43
  4/17/2017 20:28 EST

Mexjuan , you know I agree with you.

MexJuan1
  4/17/2017 20:40 EST

It's been in effect in Portugal since 2001 and still going well, solving problems. Drugs are a part of every countries culture and no government will ever stop it with the current methods. In fact, many governments are complicit. Progressive thinking solves serious issues. Agree with Portugal...

MexJuan1
  4/17/2017 20:42 EST

Just think how much better, not to mention safer, Mexico would be if they eliminated the Black Market and Cartels? Legalization would accomplish that!!!

Cozumeldeb
  4/17/2017 21:55 EST

MexJuan is in Playa del Carmen, we are in CZM..Crimes of opportunity mostly..I come from Chicago suburbs, no comparison.. Situational awareness is a must, do I go to dangerous neighborhoods in Chicago or Cozumel..NO!

Cozumeldeb
  4/17/2017 21:59 EST

You are correct, the majority of MX is safe, situational awareness. We live in QRoo and are sure safer than Chicago.

Cozumeldeb
  4/17/2017 22:01 EST

True, 1000x true..MX is safer than US.

WoodWorker
  4/18/2017 12:28 EST

"In 2016 St. Louis Missouri had a murder rate of 60 per 100,000. Just wanted to put that info out there."

So, that sounds like a great city to NOT move to as well. It's on par with Tijuana. These comparisons don't make moving to a dangerous city like TJ any safer. They simply present another city that is not safe to live in.

WoodWorker
  4/18/2017 12:39 EST

"True, 1000x true..MX is safer than US."

But of course you can't use that comparison. The danger in Mexico is the same as the danger in the United States, it's based on specific regions or specific cities. You can't generalize it. There are a lot safe places to live in the U.S. as there are in Mexico.

RVGRINGO
  4/18/2017 13:38 EST

The original inquiry remains: Safety for expats in Mexico is not his major concern; nor should it be. His main concern was being able to work.
Frankly, if you need to work to live in Mexico, I suggest that you stay where you are. Wages are a tiny fraction of what you might earn in the USA in a comparable job. The Mexican minimum daily (yes, DAILY) wage is about half the hourly minimum wage in the USA. Nurses are a dime a dozen. Cost of living is less, if you do not covet the same things you had back home, can change your diet a bit and can speak Spanish. Most Mexicans have a large extended family/clan support system and sharing quarters is common. There will be no welfare-type safety net for you, and doctors and hospitals expect cash on the barrel head.
Plan carefully.

WoodWorker
  4/18/2017 15:06 EST

The poster has clearly in their post that safety for the children is a concern. Tijuana and Rosarito are quite simply dangerous cities, that fact cannot be argued.

MexJuan1
  4/18/2017 15:19 EST

Just me, I suppose but, if I had a family with young/you her children, I'd be looking towards The Yucatan only. Merida, SMA etc...

topmexico
  4/20/2017 16:31 EST

Hi , Ashkans!
Here is a link from the US travel Advisory service that might help you decide what region would be best for you.
https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/alertswarnings/mexico-travel-warning.html

I agree with RVGringo he makes very good points. Going for your cedula profesional to be able to work as a nurse here in Mexico is a bit of a long process of re validation and you would require full command of the Spanish Language. But not to discourage you, there are Hospitals in Tourist areas that might be able to help you expedite this process because they would be happy to have you on their staff.
So good luck! and, if you have other questions about Quintana Roo or Playa del Carmen in particular, I will be happy to help you =) [email protected]

katzgar
  4/21/2017 08:17 EST

https://www.osac.gov/pages/ContentReportDetails.aspx?cid=19234

the corruption of Mexican cops often makes reporting a crime pointless so Mexican crime is under reported.

MexJuan1
  4/21/2017 08:39 EST

OK so, don't get excessively drunk, right? Otherwise, this report could be made for many area and/or large cities in the U.S. or some other country. Otherwise, I guess I'm missing the point?

katzgar
  4/21/2017 09:21 EST

Trying to compare a crime-ridden place like Mexico with the US is just ridiculous

MexJuan1
  4/21/2017 09:38 EST

I lived in a small city (Pop. 40K) in a small county in Ohio and the Police Blotter online and in the paper was huge!!! I lived in a "White Bread" Cleveland Suburb for 8 years and if a stranger was walking through town or at the high end Mall there, the local police would stop, question them and escort them out if town while crime in every sort and variety was rampant in the City of Cleveland. Crime is everywhere! Lower rates if you can afford to live in high rent areas but, still, it's never that far away. Drug crimes in the States happen every day and the addiction rates just amplify the bad situation. Mexico is no worse or better off than the U.S. Individually, it depends on what micro area in which you live and how you live your life. Clubs, drinking, drugs etc, or not.

katzgar
  4/21/2017 09:49 EST

I have lived in the United States my entire life I have never once had an M16 stuck in my face demanding a bride like I have just outside the airport in Playa del Carmen I have never had a cop give me a parking ticket for legally parking. You're trying to compare Mexico and the United States not only is ridiculous in terms of statistics it's ridiculous and terms of experience. Anyone choosing to move to Mexico damn well better live in a gated community or know that the area that they live in is well protected because the cops don't do it.

katzgar
  4/21/2017 09:56 EST

93% of crime in Mexico never gets solved and something like in 97 percent of crimes in Mexico never get reported those are the estimates go ahead and Google it

katzgar
  4/21/2017 09:56 EST

93% of crime in Mexico never gets solved and something like in 97 percent of crimes in Mexico never get reported those are the estimates go ahead and Google it

giershift43
  4/21/2017 10:02 EST

Plenty of crime in the states. Shootings at schools. Drugs are at epidemic proportions. Drive by shootings killing kids. Serial killers, hate crimes. How are we so much better off with crime. Gangs and organized crime.

katzgar
  4/21/2017 10:11 EST

Pointless irrelevant comment

katzgar
  4/21/2017 10:11 EST

Pointless irrelevant comment

katzgar
  4/21/2017 10:11 EST

Pointless irrelevant comment

katzgar
  4/21/2017 10:11 EST

Pointless irrelevant comment

katzgar
  4/21/2017 10:11 EST

Pointless irrelevant comment

MexJuan1
  4/21/2017 10:17 EST

I've lived in Mexico for two years now and visited on vacation before that time for 20 years or more dozens of times and NEVER had one bad experience. Even back in my 30's unless you count being patted down when going into Congo Bongo in Cancun once. I don't know you and don't know what you do? I'm assuming you're a law abiding citizen who has just had some bad luck in Mexico?! And, I'm certain that there are ppl, especially blacks and minorities who would have had similar experiences in America? Remember the I've League Professor, Black Man, who the SWAT TEAM was called on when he locked himself out of his OWN HOME? He was accosted, arrested and processed. You think that would have happened to a White Ivy League Professor? I think not...

MexJuan1
  4/21/2017 10:21 EST

Do you know that, currently, the FBI estimates that there are over 100,000 SERIAL KILLERS on the loose in the U.S.? And those are the ones they know about. And ask the ppl in Chicago, Boston, L.A. etc about the "police" ...

katzgar
  4/21/2017 10:29 EST

you must be trying to sell rea lestate yo tell a lie like that. Did you think I wouldnt check? https://www.bustle.com/articles/112070-how-many-active-serial-killers-are-there-right-now

MexJuan1
  4/21/2017 10:42 EST

Bustle? You're going to have to do a little better source wise than that? And let's face it, Crime, Politics and Religion are all highly topical subjects with varying quantitative stats, variables and stories. Fact and Fiction. Is Mexico more dangerous than the U.S.? Yes, it is. Is living in Cleveland, Ohio more dangerous than living in some small, nondescript city in Ohio? Yes, it is. Crime is a fact of our daily lives in these days and, to be honest, something that I think about very little. I'm anti gun and 66 now so if someone kills me, I've lived a pretty good life. I'm a lot more concerned about an incompetent, blow hard president getting us all into a Nuclear War in an attempt to deflect attention from his own personal crimes.

MexJuan1
  4/21/2017 10:48 EST

If I was wealthy enough to retire to la Cote d'Azur or the Costa del Sol, I imagine that crime would still be an issue. Ppl who live in highly secure, walled compounds with Security Guards and cameras everywhere have issues with crime. I'm never going to be a "Wall Builder". It solves nothing and, conversely, invites attention.

katzgar
  4/21/2017 10:51 EST

I( think the difference between us is that a provide a source and you just provide obfuscation.

katzgar
  4/21/2017 10:55 EST

I cant expat for health issues but if I could it would be Belize and only a few months in the winter in a rental. Belize has the same problem with crime and corruption Mexico has but at least they speak english.

MexJuan1
  4/21/2017 10:58 EST

I, admittedly, was incorrect on my SERIAL KILLER #. I just checked an FBI Database. I heard that on a Crime Show once and repeated it irresponsibly. My bad! In PDC, I live 20 minutes North of town in an open area apartment building of 6 apts. I have had no issues there in two years and none going anywhere else either. Just my personal experience.

MexJuan1
  4/21/2017 11:02 EST

Sorry to hear of your health issues. I go to Belize a cpl times a year. Beautiful country. Never had any issues...

katzgar
  4/21/2017 11:16 EST

I think we got caught up in the rental car license plate targeting that the PDC cops do. I know that a couple of the hospitals in Playa have extremely good reputations but you know me being the Minnesota German I am what I am

katzgar
  4/21/2017 11:31 EST

Laminai chocolate in San Pedro does some incredible chocolate stuff

Pedroal
  4/21/2017 18:41 EST

Got to say I agree with Katzgar. Expats must be better off than a very large % of native Mexican population, and by making such a self centered argument about their own well being they are ignoring the larger reality of Mexico, which includes massive corruption, racism and oppression. I dont know if Id evrn risk criticizing the Mexican government too much on this site if I lived in Mexico, which you would probably consider intolerable in the US. Doesn't mean you shouldn't move there. Just dont get what everyone is arguing about. Typical of these threads where some poor soul asks for help and gets caught in crossfire.

giershift43
  4/22/2017 09:16 EST

I live in a fairly upscale condo in greater Columbus area. Half the complex attends New Albany schools.
In 2010, we had a murder suicide that shocked us all. Although I don't go to areas that are known for high crime, stuff happens in all areas including police corruption. Knowing are area helps whether in the States or out of the country.

giershift43
  4/22/2017 09:30 EST

You had a traumatic experience, but does that translate into wide spread.
I was abducted at age 16, does that make it a common experience??

katzgar
  4/22/2017 10:01 EST

funny you bring that up...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/vladimir-hernandez/our-world-kidnapped-in-mexico_b_9462258.html

giershift43
  4/22/2017 12:58 EST

If you aren't planning on moving to Mexico, why are you on this site.
I was abducted at age 16 by a youth counselor in Cleveland.
No matter where you live you need to keep your wits about you and beware of your environment. Yes, there are places in both countries that are more dangerous and serious problems to be addressed.

giershift43
  4/22/2017 13:30 EST

Why are you on this site. Two murders a day in Chicago, not 2 shootings, 2 shooting deaths a day. That sounds like crime ridden place to me.
Shoot ups in schools. How do you describe that?

katzgar
  4/22/2017 13:42 EST

I describe that as only relevant if you are in Chicago. Trying to change the subject is a childish tactic.

giershift43
  4/22/2017 13:58 EST

What it is not part of the U.S.
Here in Ohio a family of 7 killed in their home over drug wars. Opioid epidemic doesn't count. That the U.S is the Cartel's biggest customer is not a problem. That human trafficking is big business. It is here if you look or go to the right area. Crime is a problem in areas that are on the border in Mexico because the U.S. is the biggest buyer. With no demand, no business. Same as any other business. Having more people incarcerated than any other country in the world does not speak well for law abiding. It is not all or none anywhere. I like New Orleans, but it has a high crime rate. I still visit. I do it with caution.

giershift43
  4/22/2017 14:06 EST

Here is a story that won't make headlines, but when my husband and I visited Oaxaca in 2013. My wayward nephew got there before us. He got drunk and literally passed out in the zocalo. A couple of guys carried him to the hotel. No robbery, No mugging. No kidnapping. They just came the next day to tell us they were worried about him.. ... So were we.

MonicaRixPaxson
  4/22/2017 14:44 EST

I think the plan to live in Rosarito or Playas de Tijuana and commuting to San Diego to work may have merit. But I very much doubt that it would be worth getting a cedula and working in Mexico as a nurse simply because the salaries are much lower than north of the border. A beginning nurse typically earns the equivalent of around $500 USD per month. A newly graduated physician only earns $12,000 USD annually. While there are many compensations for Mexico-trained medical professionals (no student debt or malpractice insurance for example), you may find it a challenge to raise 3 children here without more income. And while your experience and English speaking ability may mean you'll qualify for a somewhat higher salary here, please look into that before making a decision. Tijuana is a growing health sector city with American hospitals that have built branches south of the border and clinics and hospitals that offer alternative treatments, but while that certainly can be a benefit to patients, I am not sure that would be helpful to you. But if you were able to earn in San Diego and live in Mexico, that might be the best of both worlds. —Monica Rix Paxson, author of The English Speaker's Guide to Medical Care in Mexico, 4th Edition

Cozumeldeb
  4/22/2017 22:12 EST

Katzgar, crime ridden MX? Do u live in MX? Where? We live in Chicago + MX no crime comparison, other than narco crime, even that doesn't equal weekend crime in MX..Buzz off.

Cozumeldeb
  4/22/2017 22:17 EST

Katzgar, idiot comment, 1st comment there is no airport in Playa..Military/Police heavy at all airports..Why lie dude? Stay in US we certainly don't need your I'll here in paradise.

Cozumeldeb
  4/22/2017 22:18 EST

Katzgar, idiot comment, 1st comment there is no airport in Playa..Military/Police heavy at all airports..Why lie dude? Stay in US we certainly don't need your I'll here in paradise.

katzgar
  4/23/2017 05:58 EST

I think it's important for you to spend some time with a map Deb Chicago and is a city in the United States Playa Del Carmen is a city in Mexico different countries. Deb it's hard to describe how clueless you are the airport is obviously just south of Cancun. I already showed you how crime ridden Mexico is and if you care to ignore that that's your problem

katzgar
  4/23/2017 05:59 EST

I think it's important for you to spend some time with a map Deb Chicago and is a city in the United States Playa Del Carmen is a city in Mexico different countries. Deb it's hard to describe how clueless you are the airport is obviously just south of Cancun. I already showed you how crime ridden Mexico is and if you care to ignore that that's your problem

katzgar
  4/23/2017 05:59 EST

I think it's important for you to spend some time with a map Deb Chicago and is a city in the United States Playa Del Carmen is a city in Mexico different countries. Deb it's hard to describe how clueless you are the airport is obviously just south of Cancun. I already showed you how crime ridden Mexico is and if you care to ignore that that's your problem

MexJuan1
  4/23/2017 07:15 EST

I just posted after researching several categories of subjects and how they apply to the individual countries. The two top countries for Overall Crime are the U.S. and Canada. Mexico's rank for overall crime is 12. So you can take your condescending attitude and speak towards Deb and out it where the "Sun don't shine" Have a wonderful day!

katzgar
  4/23/2017 07:34 EST

you are posting bullcrap. prove what you say. We know given the massive corruption and fraud in Mexico that 93% of crime goes unreported and what stats there are are faked.. http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/04/how_bad_is_crime_in_mexico_dont_ask.html

katzgar
  4/23/2017 07:34 EST

you are posting bullcrap. prove what you say. We know given the massive corruption and fraud in Mexico that 93% of crime goes unreported and what stats there are are faked.. http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/04/how_bad_is_crime_in_mexico_dont_ask.html

katzgar
  4/23/2017 07:40 EST

more on Mexico corruption... https://www.forbes.com/sites/doliaestevez/2014/12/11/mexico-among-the-worlds-most-corrupt-nations-in-2014-new-report-says/#402b8e3218d7

MexJuan1
  4/23/2017 07:52 EST

This is just the Sexual Assaults that go unreported in the United States. You act like Mexico has the market cornered on unreported crime! If you live in Mexico and are afraid of the crime, move! Back to the U.S. if that's where you're from but, please stop conducting a one dimensional argument, OK?

The Majority of Sexual Assaults Are Not Reported to the Police

Only 344 out of every 1,000 sexual assaults are reported to police. That means about 2 out of 3 go unreported.1

Individuals of college-age2
Female Students: 20% report
Female Non-Students: 32% report
The elderly: 28% report3
Members of the military: 43% of female victims and 10% of male victims reported.4
Reasons Victims Choose Not to Report

Of the sexual violence crimes reported to police from 2005-2010, the survivor reporting gave the following reasons for doing so:5

28% to protect the household or victim from further crimes by the offender
25% to stop the incident or prevent recurrence or escalation
21% to improve police surveillance or they believed they had a duty to do so
17% to catch/punish/prevent offender from reoffending
6% gave a different answer, or declined to cite one reason
3% did so to get help or recover loss
Of the sexual violence crimes not reported to police from 2005-2010, the victim gave the following reasons for not reporting:5

20% feared retaliation
13% believed the police would not do anything to help
13% believed it was a personal matter
8% reported to a different official
8% believed it was not important enough to report
7% did not want to get the perpetrator in trouble
2% believed the police could not do anything to help
30% gave another reason, or did not cite one reason
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Department of Justice, Office of Justice Programs, Bureau of Justice Statistics, Rape and Sexual Victimization Among College-Aged Females, 1995-2013 (2014).
Department of Justice, Office of Justice Programs, Bureau of Justice Statistics, Crimes Against the Elderly, 2003-2013 (2014).
Department of Defense, Fiscal Year 2014 Annual Report on Sexual Assault in the Military (2015).
Department of Justice, Office of Justice Programs, Bureau of Justice Statistics, Female Victims of Sexual Violence, 1994-2010 (2013).
Department of Justice, Office of Justice Programs, Bureau of Justice Statistics, Felony Defendants in Large Urban Counties, 2009 (2013).
Department of Justice, Office of Justice Programs, Bureau of Justice Statistics, Prisoners in 2013 (2014).

MexJuan1
  4/23/2017 07:57 EST

Ignore what you choose to ignore. Believe what suits you. I, really, don't care... Really! ;-)

katzgar
  4/23/2017 08:16 EST

you do know this is a Mexico forum dont you? Posting stuff about the US is not relevant. Trying to compare Mexico to the US is a losing proposition for you. The US and Mexico are different countries. Like I said upstream I have never had an M16 stuck in my face like I have in Mexico. This is getting too absurd to really put more effort into it. You get shown facts and you just ignore them in favor of your pretend world. Mexico is one of the most corrupt countries in the world will cover it for me.

MexJuan1
  4/23/2017 08:32 EST

Railing on and on about crime seems pointless to me. It's everywhere in all forms and styles. Lock yourself in the closet, hire a body guard, build a walk, buy a gun like everybody else does. If you don't like Mexico, stay away. If you think there's no corruption in the U.S. Criminal Justice system, that's fine too! This is a forum about life in Mexico. I live here and have never had any issues. Never had any while living in the states either. Your point is taken but, not necessarily, proven out so, what do you expect to change besides saying the World is a dangerous place and Mexico is dangerous and corrupt? You're not breaking any unknown ground here. You had a bad experience and you're carrying that baggage. Sorry...

katzgar
  4/23/2017 10:37 EST

I don't need a closet and I don't need to hire a bodyguard all I need to do is stay in the US

katzgar
  4/23/2017 10:37 EST

I don't need a closet and I don't need to hire a bodyguard all I need to do is stay in the US

lindaceleste
  4/23/2017 11:13 EST

Please do stay in US.

giershift43
  4/23/2017 11:19 EST

So why are you on this website? It is for Americans living in Mexico or planning to live there.
That is why I am on it.
I have been exploring moving there and am continuing to gather information.

If you are so sure that it is dangerous, don't go. I have been there and do not feel threatened.

katzgar
  4/23/2017 11:38 EST

It's fair for people to understand what they're getting into when they go down there

giershift43
  4/23/2017 12:06 EST

Knowing what goes on in a place before you go is helpful. But one spot or city is not a whole country. It is different is different places, States and Cities, just like in the U.S. Not all are the same.
To label a whole country by one incident is not valid. All and none thinking is not critical analysis. Big Cities to small towns and it all changes over time. The U.S have experience crime waives, riots and even a civil war. Different risk at different times and places. Prohibition was pushed to end by the Valentine day massacre. Prohibition created a crime wave. Now we have drug cartels. Want to end it, change the laws and policies to take the money out of. Larger system analysis over time. Not one time one place label a whole country.

Ashkans
  4/24/2017 01:00 EST

I feel like your insight on living in Mexico is useless because you do not live in Mexico. Obviously articles and blogs written about Mexico are most always one sided and all the statistics printed are only the ones that are helpful in proving the authors point. Just like some other posters commented, I'm not sure why you're on here. If you lived in Mexico and have a negative opinion please share, however you do not. Visiting is much different than living. But thanks for painting a bad picture of a country that you have no experience in.

MexJuan1
  4/24/2017 06:11 EST

Bravo! Calling out the trolls. I LOVE it...

katzgar
  4/24/2017 08:39 EST

Do as you wish in the end I dont care. I did my due diligence and health care, personal safety, and corruption were all reasons for me to not move to Mexico. There is something like a million expats in Mexico and many do fine. The best thing you can answer is how many expats are leaving Mexico. local expats estimate that 40% of expats leave Belize to return home but Belize is poorer than Mexico. I was also looking at starting a business which is an entirely more complicated kettle of fish. You started this thread you should be familiar with what is in it. An expat renting a condo has a much lower level of risk than someone wanting to buy real estate ( which you cannot do in coastal Mexico). Listening to tourism boosters on a website like this isnt giving you a good picture. https://www.cuencahighlife.com/some-mexico-expats-head-for-the-exit-as-drug-wars-heat-up-some-go-home-others-relocate-to-other-latin-american-countries/

giershift43
  4/24/2017 08:53 EST

Katz,
If you see the path that is correct for you follow it.
I have met some expats returning to the States when they are very ill and want to be near their children. And expat life is not for everyone. Many of us already figured that out. Why are you even looking at it? If 40% return home, 60% stay. Bye

katzgar
  4/24/2017 08:56 EST

this is the kind of post you might expect from some sort of business interest.

giershift43
  4/24/2017 09:08 EST

Katz, Many of the things like buying real estate on the coast etc. I already researched. It seems to be new to you.
Who are you trying to convince. I have spent time researching health care, property ownership, taxes and find the louder culture of rosters crowing in the morning or the Gas trucks hawking their goods ok. I did not expect the country to be created to meet my needs and expectations, but to learn what to expect. Sometimes people relocate within the U.S. and move back too.

It is good to clarify expectations versus reality, but you seem on a campaign to convert others to see things as you see them. Relax others may not be looking exactly for what you are. I liked Ajijic and Lake Chapala. I expect to have to adapt to a different life and for there to be surprises. There are 31 States in Mexico not counting the Federal district. Each has some differenced in culture, customs and food. Sound familiar??

katzgar
  4/24/2017 09:22 EST

I have no way of knowing what you know or dont know, what an absurd statement. Your ability at processing info is not good. A forum like this is for sharing information, good and bad. Your need to demonize people is classic Trump.

giershift43
  4/24/2017 10:13 EST

Yes it is for sharing information, but you make statements with a sense of surprise like a teenager that learns something the grown ups already know.
You emphasize danger and risk and seem to want to convince others instead of just inform. There are risks in life including staying in place. Anyone looking into a big move should research it.

MexJuan1
  4/24/2017 10:17 EST

"Look both ways before you cross the street" and "Don't play with matches". ;-)

katzgar
  4/24/2017 10:26 EST

danger and personal risk are the main reasons expats return home so an awareness is prudent. Try and process the fact that I posted there are about a million expats in Mexico before you decide to misinterpret what I say yet again.

peggyjune
  4/24/2017 10:58 EST

Reading many posts and sharing information = it always comes down to "common sense". I lived for some years in Jamaica, very high crime etc - however I never had a problem there. I left due to some family issues. Now looking for another "home". Mexico is now on the list - especially Playa del Carmen. Everyplace has its + and -. I love the Caribbean Sea.

katzgar
  4/24/2017 11:07 EST

suggest renting for awhile if purchasing real estate is your plan. Spend time talking to people. Avoid brand new condos unless you talk to previous purchasers. Contractors sometimes go after owners to collect their debts as the developer is long gone. Learn about Ejido land and Tulum beach.
http://www.yucatanliving.com/real-estate-yucatan/wsj-reports-on-yucatan-land-grab

MexJuan1
  4/24/2017 11:09 EST

I second that sentiment and PDC and The Caribbean Sea are nothing short of AWESOME!

katzgar
  4/24/2017 11:09 EST

"Look both ways before you cross the street" and "Don't play with matches". ;-)

also watch for M16's shoved in your face.

giershift43
  4/24/2017 11:13 EST

Thank you Peggy, you are the voice of reason. Yesterday was the anniversary of the murder of 2 families including children and a mother holding babe in arms South of columbus, Ohio in. Rural area. I still travel down that way.

MexJuan1
  4/24/2017 11:13 EST

I'm thinking that some psycho analysis may be in order?

peggyjune
  4/24/2017 11:15 EST

After many trips to other countries. not on the Caribbean - I have come back to my original connection of the Caribbean. I went for a short trip in March (to Playa) and then another one coming in July. It looks promising, for my future choice.

giershift43
  4/24/2017 11:16 EST

And gun men at elementary schools. For my job I just had to take my mandatory training on a shooter in the work place!

peggyjune
  4/24/2017 11:19 EST

Another saying that I live by "Trust the Universe but tie up your camel". Life is unpredictable, no matter where one lives. Certain common sense rules apply, both the USA and Mexico.

giershift43
  4/24/2017 11:32 EST

And just like in the States have a property inspected.

katzgar
  4/24/2017 12:03 EST

"And gun men at elementary schools. For my job I just had to take my mandatory training on a shooter in the work place!"

Have you had training on how to deal with mass graves yet?

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/mass-graves-bodies-mexico-veracruz-lacks-room-for-remains/

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-33671636

giershift43
  4/24/2017 12:44 EST

I already knew about and the parents protests. Got it. But it no more describes all of Mexico than Sandy Hook does. There is also one State I'm Mexico where young girls go missing frequently and missing women in Chillicothe., Ohio. There are risks and dangers and crime waves and corruption . But you seem on a campaign . I have friends from
Mexico and have visited . There are movies like the sans nombre on Netflix . And ms 13 fr el Salvatore . Got it.

giershift43
  4/24/2017 12:55 EST

Fort Lauderdale airport,, club in Orlando,
I have been reading news on and off for years from Mexico and read the State Department recommendations as well.
They have them for different areas in countries and they change from time to time. It is not all or none and it does not stay the same. It changes over time.

giershift43
  4/24/2017 12:58 EST

I hate spell correct. There is one State in Mexico where young girls are particularly targeted. I had read about the mass graves some time ago and the parents protests.

Maybe you never looked previously.. Yesterday I read recommendations for Active shooters, because we have had enough of them to make training on them required.

giershift43
  4/24/2017 13:04 EST

Here is one for you Katz:
Sin Nombre (2009 film) - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sin_Nombre_(2009_film)
Sin Nombre is a 2009 Mexican-American adventure thriller film written and directed by Cary Joji Fukunaga, about a Honduran girl trying to immigrate to the ...
?Plot · ?Cast · ?Production · ?Reception
We also have gangs in downtown Columbus, Ohio.

katzgar
  4/24/2017 13:23 EST

When the homicide rate in Mexico is 15.7/100,00 and it is 3.9/100,000 your attempts to bring the US down to Mexicos level are absurd.

giershift43
  4/24/2017 13:33 EST

It depends on which stats you read and when. Again if you are so convinced, why are you on the site?
I have read Stats before. My husband has been a statistics tutor at a local university. We get it. You sound like chicken little. If you are afraid, don't go!!

katzgar
  4/24/2017 18:11 EST

the real question is why are you trying to sugar coat Mexico? Must be a real estate agent.

giershift43
  4/24/2017 18:28 EST

Interesting view. I do not see that I am. I have visited. I am old and my husband blind. We had great visits and plan to move there this next year. I know there are problems. You don't like Mexico. Don't want to move there. I can only guess you are a troll. Bye

CarlyJF
  4/28/2017 07:57 EST

I agree with the suggestion to get your kids and yourself duel citizenship ASAP. To speed it up get a lawyer. Once you have that, you can work anywhere as a bilingual nurse. As far as the compensation, Go across the boarder everyday for work will take longer than you think. Queretaro, Mexico is a great option. Safe area, job opportunities, lots of great school options. Very kid friendly city. Beautiful downtown area.

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