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louixo
9/5/2017 08:44 EST

I keep reading posts about where is the BEST? The very best is at the top of the food chain with all the luxury, and no limit on what you can spend for goods and services. Other than that, the best is what you can afford, and where you can be happy, with what is available in that place. For example, you can get along quite well and inexpensively, and live in a safe, and beautiful place in most any country, if you don't mind residing in a small town far from what the crowd wants. True in the USA, Canada, Mexico, and Europe. However if you want to live in Mexico, be on the beach, and have all the amenities, things to do, and security, it is getting more difficult, as prices keep going up, because everybody wants to be there. There are very nice, quaint, beach towns on the gulf coast outside of Progresso in many small hamlets, but you better be ready for the quiet life. the closer you get to the Riviera Maya, the more it will cost. But even the most expensive in mexico is way cheaper than California or Florida popular beach communities.

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mattoleriver
9/5/2017 22:12 EST

"...because everybody wants to be there. "
The lack of responses so far may be because most people really don't want to be on the coast. It is hot, humid, hot, expensive and hot.

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Cozumeldeb
9/5/2017 22:32 EST

True, bottom line, MX is a country of various options, as in US or anywhere. IMO, the cost of living in MX v US ranges from 30 to 40% less in MX v US..from property either rental/owning, taxes cheap, insurance about 25%( we live on oceanfront), high quality healthcare/meds cheaper than US, (we still carry Medicare) doctor visits we pay out of pocket, very reasonable. Food is less, but living on an island makes things a little higher as everything is shipped in, albeit still cheaper than US. There are areas in MX that a person can live on SS, mostly in the interior..Travel around, research areas, sign up for ex-pat sites on line. Hundreds of thousands have retired happily from all over the world, retirement heaven.

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trippinbilly23
9/6/2017 03:24 EST

I'm glad we starting looking last year, 4-5 years from retirement. So many places I'd like to visit.

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longtimelurker
9/6/2017 08:42 EST

I have traveled the entire coast from TX to Belice, from Rocky Point to Manzanillo, Puerto Escondido to the Guatemala border. For me, the best beaches and lifestyle choices are on the Riviera Maya Caribbean. San Carlos/Guaymas would be a close 2nd.

I am with Lou. I don't want to give up the modern conveniences of life and live in a small, underdeveloped, backwater pueblo. What is the attraction in that? Reliving your childhood of the 40’s, 50’s, and 60’s?

Also, not all expats are retired senior citizens nor are they just Americans and Canadians. Many of these expats, from the world over, come to this area to work and raise families. They are my neighbors. It gives Playa del Carmen area a modern cosmopolitan feeling. Did I mention the crystal clear, always warm, Caribbean?


Matt, if you look at where the money is being invested, where there is growth, it is on the coasts or in cities open to manufacturing. That is where expats are moving to. It is not in so-called popular retirement havens like Chapala or SMA. There is no room for real growth. Build one apartment building in Ajijic and the expats are ready to march in protest.

Some people are beach people, other are mountain folk.

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katzgar
9/6/2017 10:34 EST

traditionally Mexicans retreat to the mountains from the coast to escape the heat of the summer but AC has altered that tradition somewhat if you can afford it. There are several inland cities like SMA, Oaxaca, Guanajuato and Alamos.

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trippinbilly
9/6/2017 10:38 EST

I was reading about some new development in Puerto Morelos, which I am spending Christmas in.

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hrlee7804
9/6/2017 11:47 EST

I would guess the San Carlos/Guaymas area would have safety issues being so close to the heavily traveled cartel routes??? Thoughts? Anyone have information on this area?

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katzgar
9/6/2017 14:15 EST

cartels are throughout. https://worldview.stratfor.com/article/mexicos-cartels-will-continue-splinter-2017

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Cozumeldeb
9/6/2017 14:57 EST

Katzgar, I swear you'd bitch if they hung u with a gold. Calm the hell down, it appears MX is not for you. Seeing the boogie man around every corner is not healthy. Stay in the US.

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Iturbide
9/6/2017 15:07 EST

Totally agree Cozdeb; Katz spews ignorance, hatred and fake news in this forum.

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GranJefe
9/6/2017 15:11 EST

Well said Cozumeldeb. Hey Katzgar, stay in the U.S. and find a liberal place to hang out.....

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Cozumeldeb
9/6/2017 15:15 EST

Your smart to visit several locations, very diverse country. When u get down to your short list, be sure to rent first for 3-6 mos, living and vacationing are 2 different things. Also depending if you are going back + forth, might want to be closer to International airport, check weather patterns/history too. Retirement in MX IMO is heaven..1 point in your traveling around to your locations of interest, decide if u want a single family or condo. Plus + minuses for both. We intended to build a house, but in the end we bought a oceanfront condo. It's been a good choice for us as we do come and go, turnkey. Empty houses even with good security and lighting are targets. One thing to know there is NO zoning in MX, so build a house and a auto repair biz or 24 hr bar can move right into your area..Happy Hunting.

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katzgar
9/6/2017 15:52 EST

I post proof of what I say and you salespeople just try to gloss it over. typical.

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katzgar
9/6/2017 15:54 EST

its easy to look this stuff up... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-21/showdown-in-cancun-narcos-take-their-war-into-hot-beach-resorts

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longtimelurker
9/6/2017 16:36 EST

You are wrong again Katzgar. You have it backwards. Many Mexicans come to the beach in the summer. They don't vacation in the winter except Xmas time. On the northern gulf coast the small towns are overflowing with people from DF. This coast, Riviera Maya, was full of domestic tourists all summer until school began.

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MexJuan1
9/6/2017 17:25 EST

I can attest to that. Mexican tourists in PDC all Summer long.

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wearebobo
9/6/2017 17:57 EST

to lturbide, cozdeb: I've been following this forum for a few months, oviously I'm researching before we travel. I have to say, there are posters on this forum who could frighten the white right out of my sheets, thank you for bringing a calming balance to this thread. If there are any people out there who do not understand the trials, dangers, risks of travel in a foreign country I would say travel itself is not for them. I'm looking for insight from people who experience the ex pat life, personally, not an armchair researcher who culls their info from either Intl Living or the crime files. Erika

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MexJuan1
9/6/2017 18:03 EST

For me and my experience, I've enjoyed a wonderful, relaxing, pleasant life in PDC for, going on, 3 years. It's a great city with everything you'd ever want or hope for out of retirement. Personally, I just don't like the way things are going overall and have some trepidations about staying in Mexico at all. That's why I'm moving on to Portugal.

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CasaColibri
9/6/2017 18:11 EST

I've lived peacefully and happily in the city of Guanajuato 20 years. Had a cell phone stolen once. That's it. I feel safe and comfortable living here.

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katzgar
9/6/2017 19:11 EST

like I said going to the mountains iis a way to escape the summer heat...not only in Mexico but elsewhere this is not a new concept. Like I also said AC has changed that. https://www.journeymexico.com/blog/cool-places-stay-cool-mexico-summer

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katzgar
9/6/2017 19:15 EST

here is how the mountain town thing worked in India just for a little education. https://www.staysure.co.uk/2015/02/indias-hill-stations/

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giershift43
9/6/2017 19:47 EST

I am not selling anything. But it seems very important to you that we all see it as you do .

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giershift43
9/6/2017 19:51 EST

I live in Columbus and my neighbor had his car broken into in his driveway right next door.

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longtimelurker
9/6/2017 21:09 EST

hrlee, I have spent a lot of time in San Carlos/Guaymas over the years, I have always felt safe there. Nice beaches, great fishing and some of the best Shrimp I have ever eaten. Another plus, you are still in the "No Hassle Zone" and it is close to the USA.

With that being said, I did not travel out of the area at night. The times we partied in Hermosillo late into the night we stayed in town.

When living in Mexico it helps to develop a new kind of "street smarts". This is not Kansas.

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Cozumeldeb
9/6/2017 22:57 EST

Katzgar, ok I'll bite, what's India have to do with MX ex-pats?

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Cozumeldeb
9/6/2017 23:04 EST

Erika/wearabobo, Thanks..
Gotta say, "frighten the white out of my sheets," was a hoot, never heard that before.
Good luck with your search, if you have any questions, shoot em at me..Deb

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wearebobo
9/6/2017 23:15 EST

Coz deb: I will, thank you. Sheesh, so many agendas everywhere. Looking for no agenda living. Thanks.

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wearebobo
9/6/2017 23:24 EST

to cozdeb: We are pretty simple. safety, friendlly community, like minded neighbors. We;ll keep a house here in the states. We want a six month or more living experience. I'm looking at Merida, Cozumel, Playa del Carmen, not city centric, not rural, close to the ocean, not on the ocean. Grew up in San Diego. Looking to find a 1960s retro san diego vibe not possible? ok.

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giershift43
9/7/2017 07:33 EST

I agree with Cozumeldeb, but don't clump Katzgar with liberals. She is not a liberal. She is preoccupied with fear mongering. She needs to find a conservative community that is fearful of the outside world. Plenty of dangerous places in the States. I did community case work for years and visited plenty of them. Crack houses, battered kids, psychotic individuals needing hospitalizations, visiting areas no white person goes.... I could drop her off a few places much closer to home if she wants.

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katzgar
9/7/2017 09:13 EST

"Katzgar, ok I'll bite, what's India have to do with MX ex-pats?"

sighs...ok I'll explain it. when it gets hot people traditionally escape the heat by going to higher elevations. Did you follow that?

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katzgar
9/7/2017 09:17 EST

"I agree with Cozumeldeb, but don't clump Katzgar with liberals. She is not a liberal. She is preoccupied with fear mongering. She needs to find a conservative community that is fearful of the outside world. Plenty of dangerous places in the States. I did community case work for years and visited plenty of them. Crack houses, battered kids, psychotic individuals needing hospitalizations, visiting areas no white person goes.... I could drop her off a few places much closer to home if she wants."

Cant imagine you were very good if you cant determine the difference between a man and a woman. MX and USA are different cultures so comparing the fraud and corruption in the US to the massive fraud and corruption in MX is something you havent done. You have as yet to post links showing mass graves of 250 people in the US, do so now.

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Cozumeldeb
9/7/2017 11:18 EST

Weareboo,
Agendas often follow people, as well as attitudes..
I have a friend in Merida, who grew up in 1960's San Francisco. She moved to Merida about 10+yrs ago, opened up a beautiful B+B in historical Centro district in Merida. She's enjoyed it but now because of some health issues she's selling the B+B.., I do think the laid back vibe throughout QRoo + Yucatan can be found in lots of areas, Merida and surrounding beach communities might match, but be aware from late April to Oct it is hotter than Hades, which sends a lot of ex-pats to the mountains..Tulum is known to have a Bohemian style..beautiful area, but because of edijo land titles it is not a place to buy, but renting could work.. hopefully this land title crap will be over..I know u want near oceans, but some of the mountain communities are worth a look see. Guanjuanto (my fav), San Miguel Allende (loads of CA folks here), and Lake Chapla/Ajijic (about closest to beach, 3 hrs).
I'll send u a link for Dawn's B+B, gives u and idea of historical area. Deb.

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Cozumeldeb
9/7/2017 11:24 EST

Ugh, "hung with a gold rope."

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Cozumeldeb
9/7/2017 11:48 EST

Weareboo, the website for Dawn's B+B in Merida's Historical Centro District..
www.angelsdemerida.com
This is the website, 6 bedrooms with baths, please share with anyone interested, this place is a steal!

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GranJefe
9/7/2017 11:54 EST

I love your inputs, are there currently land title issues that will affect the gringos?

Thx

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trippinbilly
9/7/2017 13:57 EST

Cozumeldebl, it looks like you forgot an e in the website.
www/angelesdemerida.com is what I found after your didn't work.
Ken

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tourguide
9/8/2017 07:00 EST

And quite often People don't really know what they want until they experience it. They live in this dream called "The Jimmy Buffett Syndome", a romantic idea of wasting away in Margaritaville. This is why people in the know say you should try everything to see what fits you.
I live in the mountains (Apizaco, Tlaxcala) It lacks a few things but I can hop on a bus and be in Puebla (Populatiom 2 million) in an hour and find what I'm missing. Also if I have an urge for sea water I can take a 4 hour bus ride and be in Veracruz in 4 hours.
The Up side is its more economical to live here, No mosquitos, less traffic, etc. Over the last several years Mexico has been working on its infrastructure and there are better highways making it easier to find these places. Yes it gets a little chillier here but I don't mind seasons, I lived in Tampa, Florida and WinterHaven also and Summers were miserable. Chooose wisely friends !

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GranJefe
9/8/2017 12:59 EST

Well said amigo.

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longtimelurker
9/8/2017 16:02 EST

I live in the dream, "The Jimmy Buffett Syndome", and have been wasting away in Margaritaville for over a decade. There are a lot of us that do it. I just don't do the over drinking. I like the heat. I like being able to be swimming and diving in the Caribbean 12 month a year. This is a great beach area. I am living the dream.

tourguide, I was in Puebla in July 2016 for a couple of days playing tourist. I really liked what I saw. Our first night, my friends and I were in the zocolo waiting to take the double decker tour bus around the city. All of a sudden the winds shifted out of the north, it started to rain, (miraculously vendors appeared with cheap trash bag quality ponchos) and the temperature dropped to about 60 degrees. I was shaking terribly and chilled to the bone. It felt like a December day in Chapala: cold cold cold. I have become a wussie when it gets around 65 degrees.

It is all comes down to what you are used to.

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longtimelurker
9/8/2017 16:35 EST

Granjefe, there are land title issues in every State, all over Mexico. They effect everyone, not just gringos. You must do your "due diligence", Even then something can come back and bite you. Be careful.

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