Why do Canadians always think they know what's best for the greatest country in the world. Please with your attitude by pass.
You have all you can do to take care of Canada.

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@expatpanama2016: Stay in Canada you jerk! This forum is for friendly and helpful dialog. Calling our elected President a retarded donkey and even mentioning Hilter just shows that you are the back side of said donkey. Any further comment to you would be a waste of time and energy.

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I am a citizen of "the greatest country in the world"...and getting greater each moment, hahaha.?? I visited Panama 4 weeks ago and had no issue with re-entry. Then I was elsewhere in the Carribean last week and again, no problems with re-entry. But I do have Global Entry, so...may not be the best comparison. I also don't have an Islamic sounding name. However, a friend traveling with us does have such a name and he had no issues with re-entry. Also, we had someone with us with a permanent US visa, who had no problems. That's all encouraging, I suppose.

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@Lamastus and @Glockdiver:

Hahahahahaha ))))) Thanks for making me laugh.

Normally, I would shove your responses into my garbage-can, But, since you seem to be so misinformed about your own country, allow me to enlighten you:

YES, your president is a retarded donkey. And the fact that someone like that could ever become president of a country is testament to the mental capacity of its citizens (..........by which I mean YOU)

the US is the butt of every joke in existence now. Your country is the laughing stock of every other country on the planet.

Everyone out there --- NOT just Canadians --- thinks that you are a ridiculous.

I understand your frustrations. And the reasons for your sense of hopelessness :=)))))))))))

But.............er.............it's not MY fault :=))))

So, once again; thanks for the humor.

And, now, kindly exit my post. My question is intended for a specific group of individuals (which I clearly stated)

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I know I'm going to kick myself for jumping in here, but ....

First, I was curious why you chose to post here your specific question about crossing in/out of the U.S when this forum has always been about being in panama. Though there is the all too often thread about boarder hopping in/out of CR to stay legal here. Then it hit me ... the post had to be for attention!

The liberal media has skewed our new president to a point I'm not sure there will be a return. That said, these are his accomplishments thus far, and I'm sure there's more, but I've been away from the news recently ...
1. More than 700k jobs in 1 month secured.
2. Billion dollar companies coming back to US. Foreign companies investing in US business.
3. Dow Jones at its highest in history.
4. Our borders becoming secure from terrorist threats.
5. Postponed WW3 with russia.
6. On his way to building a better health insurance system than ACA.
7. Created open dialogue with business CEOs no other POTUS ever has within the walls of the WH.
8. Cut billions from Gov spending and unnecessary contracts


I'm sure the list goes on, and he accomplished all of this within 1 month of his presidency.. "ONE MONTH." When was the last time you saw a president or PM that managed to get all of that done in 8 years???

I know he's not readily liked by a lot of people, but even a blind man can see his accomplishments have surpassed Obama and I believe they will continue to surprise Americans as time goes on. Stay away from the media for a few weeks and try reading whitehouse.gov and other Gov web sights for political news.

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AMEN expatpanama!!! WELL SAID!!!

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@tharin4prez: Wonderful synopsis.

@expatpanama2016: Thankfully, I have friends from Canada so I know that you are not the normal for your country. If you don't like the US, then don't come here! Everyone has that choice.

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Garbage can is where yours are going.

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No one I know has had any more problems than usual in the past month. At least 5 different nationalities and of varied colors from white to dark brown.
And yes, I am a U.S. citizen, but not thin skinned or quick to anger.

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I agree with lapapuja. I don't have the interest, patience, time to debate US politics. That's why I simply answered the question. I've personally seen no issues with Customs. Other than that, everyone's opinions are their own...and not for others to criticize or try to change.

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@therinforpres.
You are reading "fake news".

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Please bypass the USA and do us all a Favor.

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@tharin4prez - you HAVE to be kidding! There is not one actual accomplishment in that list. You sound as if you actually believe that lying man-clown you elected. Wow.

When the son of Muhammed Ali is detained for hours at the airport - just one example among many - it is clear the OPs question is legit - although admittedly this is likely the wrong forum for discussing that issue.

But never suggest Trump is anything other than a moronic self-aggrandizing liar if you want to be taken seriously.

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@ Expatpanama2016

This is a Phorum about moving, and living in the Republic of Panama......not about US politics.

And to answer your question there has been no problems for people crossing the border at Paso Canoas or flying out of Tocumen or any other airport in Panama. Everyone is celebrating Carnivals and enjoying life.

thank you.

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Please don't embarrass other Canadians. You cannucks already have a bad reputation in Panama (cheap ass complainers who don't tip) so why make it worse. We yanks don't meddle nor care about your political woes and immigrant invasion up north so please stay out of our business.

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Only wilfully ignorant people hate Trump. Think about it and get back to me.

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My comment was directed at you SunsetSteve.

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@expatpanama2016
Barack Hussein Obama returned from London Saturday and reported no problems with re entry into the US.

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I'll say what I want about the evil sh1t who is destroying a great nation in the eyes of the world and harming a great many people around the world while he is at it, and will vilify those who support this bastard. Tell your whining complaints to the rest of the world, who no longer respect your now inferior and backwards nation.

https://www.thelocal.de/20170227/in-pics-german-carnival-floats-show-trump-no-mercy

If you want chapter and verse on his lies and inadequacies and incompetency, I'll be happy to provide. You shame yourself by supporting this Fool. Shame!

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Addressing Panabud.

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Oh, did I mention that I don't think highly of your so-called President and his so-called policies? lol As highly as he thinks of your Judiciary and Press. Just waiting for him to denigrate the Congress as being in the way of his edicts.

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Augieman: what about @therinforpres post is fake news? Back up your claim. Or did the main stream media propaganda outlets brainwash you to hate your own President Trump?

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#notmypresident

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Panabud
It will be interesting to see how you and others feel in around 6 months, when his actions start affecting peoples' wallets and they see their kids sent off to war.

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SunsetSteve: Brainwashed by the media. "This fool" you mean the successful billionaire who against all odds and extreme resistance became President of the USA? You of all insignificant minions call this great man a fool? Proves how delusional you are.

The corrupt politicians of the world hate Trump because he is interfering with their long established gravy train of looting and fleecing the rest of the world. Trump is the good guy in a sea of evil and if you don't see that then shut off CNN and learn what's really going on.

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Panama2017: #howimmatureofme

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Bluewind: jobs coming back and lower cost of health insurance are a great thing. We will soon see Trump's tax plan so can't comment on it. War? It is stupid and reckless to be accusing Russia of some thing they didn't do. The left wing democrats are responsible for this aggression not Trump.

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You are counting Obama's jobs as Trump's, everyone can see that. Replacing ACA has been a laughingstock for 8 years. Face it. He has NOTHING! Where is his secret plan to destroy ISIS in 30 days? NOTHING! The man is a sexist racist fool. He cannot speak coherently. He has a 5th grade vocabulary. He cannot read more than a single line at a time. He is a complete ignoramus. And that says as much about his supporters as it does about him. SHAME! If he would have invested his inheritance in any mutual fund he would be worth 10X what he is worth today. You have elected a complete JERK for your President. Congratulations. Live with it. And watch your tourism industry shrivel and die.

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SunsetSteve: calling out a corrupt judicicuary and press is a good thing. It's not politically correct to do so which is also a good thing.

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Not brainwashed.if fox news is mainstream then I'M guilty.
I hate no-one.
I said nothing about my president.
But all that tripe about accomplishments ( none of it supported)i in 2 months borders on the absurd.

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Neither the judiciary nor the press is corrupt. They may have failings from time to time but they are the pillars of the deocracy and the first to fall in a rising dictatorship. Turkey ring a bell? If pillar of your so-called democracy is corrupt it is an executive branch that now bases its existence on alternative facts - aka lies - and the fools who go along with the bullsh1t. Restrict communication to the lying lies of the lying liar at the top of the chain and you have already thrown in the the towel on brains and free thought. You, Panabud have clearly decided to follow the Fool. Go right the f ahead. Don't expect respect from intelligent thoughtful folks in your commubity though. You won't get it. Goosestep away as you follow the hate parade, blaming immigrants, refugees, minorities, queers, for your problems. Follow the Leader into the cesspool of infamy. We.ve all seen it before and we know where it is headed and where it will end up.

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Your delusional. Believing the only person you can trust and should listen to is the President is both ignorant and dangerous, and that would apply to any President. What if Trump doesn't turn out to be the mesiah that has come to save our country from all the evils of the world and will right all the wrongs that Americans have had to endure (lol). It's kinda like throwing in your life savings on one bet in Vegas.

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SunsetSteve
I am an American and proud of it, but sadly I have to agree with your post. I think it's important to remember that Trump doesn't speak for a majority of Americans. Your drawing a broad brush over every American is just being narrow-minded. Instead of bad mouthing Americans, it would be nice if you showed some empathy for many of us that now has to deal with the ramifications of his Presidency.

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Blue - I regret leaving that impression. I had hoped that my negative remarks were restricted to Trumpeters, those foolish or evil people who have inflicted this evil puppet of Putin onto the world stage. To some extent I am guilty out of emotional excess of blaming the innocent and I truly regret and retract that. I well know that a minority of voters elected this caricature of a human and I admit to retaining a great respect for most Americans. But I am so angry!

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Panabud
I really hope you are right about Trump providing well-paying jobs and lower cost for health insurance. God know both would make a lot of lives much better. The problem with providing well-paying jobs means having a skilled population to do them. Why do you think many companies recruit people from overseas to fill those jobs? Many of the people that voted for Trump just don't have the education or skills to do these jobs. Many of them will continue to have to survive on minimum wage jobs (Trumps against raising the minimum wage). I think some people actually think that if a company is hiring more people, that they can just walk into their employment office, fill out an application and it's a done deal. There's more to that and that's where is ignorance is. How bout instead of spending 54 billion on the military, Trump puts that money into training people to fill those high paying jobs. Now that's what I call making American great again, not pouring money into a military that can eliminate most countries in a heatbeat.

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I think that SunsetSteve guy is gay, afraid, and alone. Poor fellow, hope the best for ya steve.

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Question: Can you start of new section for personal political views if that's what you want to discuss?

I think this section is about the borders. I'm just saying...

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Thanks SunsetSteve for your response. I think its great you as a Canadian care so much about what happens to us. God knows, America is going to need as many friends in the coming years as it can get. I really hope I'm wrong, but I see a lot of pain and anger coming. I hope I'm wrong but the writing on the wall is pretty clear.

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Not being politically correct is a good thing, but believing anything outside the mainstream just because it's anti-establishment is just stupid. Just because Trump wants to do things differently doesn't make it a good thing. But that takes a certain amount of thinking and really analyzing what he wants to do.

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@outsidecleanupset
Since you are into the juvenile sport of name calling,what shall we call you?
Bigot? Ignorant? Low life?
A-hole? Microcephalic? Half wit? Or nitwit?
My oh my.

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And I think that Trumpeteers are naive and desperate, or misogynistic racist hillbillies. Take your pick. But they have done neither themselves nor the world a favour. Imagine - just imagine - the mentality of anyone who would be familiar with this Trump guy, and actually think he is a person worth admiring or respecting. Knowing his abysmal business record, his immaturity and narcissism, his disdain for women, his preening insecurities, his utter lack of sophistication, jeez I could go on for pages but my arms tire. Imagine the quality of judgement of people who find this troglodyte an appealing and worthy person! Listen to his speeches. Think about the level of his understanding of world affairs. Understand the lack of reality behind his silly promises. He promises to bring jobs back to America from China and Mexico, yet refuses to have his own products produced in America. He proposes to impoverish Mexicans by closing factories there, not realizing that Mexican immigration is currently, and has been, in negative numbers. By impoverishing his neighbour he will simply increase the pressure on illegal immigration. He bans visitors from nations whose people have never attacked inside America, but refuses to ban those from nations who HAVE attacked inside America but where he has business interests. He attcks the legitimacy of everyone who disagrees with him, frequently in a silly and peevish manner. He treats his wife publicly like a third class person. He does not hesitate to provoke divisions and hatreds among the people he is supposed to comfort and unite. I have never hears one single meaningful positive quality about this person. Eve Fox News has labelled him a Master Liar.

Some people will support anyone with a red tie. SAD

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Just heard from a Panamanian friend who just came back........ said there was a closer look than usual at passports in New York.

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@ SunsetSteve

"If he would have invested his inheritance in any mutual fund he would be worth 10X what he is worth today."

It looks as though you drank the main stream media's Koolaide! President Trump began his empire in the 1970s, his father passed away in 1999.

Here are two predictions from the main stream media:

MSNBC "Hillary has a 99% chance of winning."

NY Times "Hillary has a 85% chance of winning."

It's funny how you label President Trump a fool, are you saying that Hillary lost to a fool?

Oh the liberal melt down!

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PLEASE NOTE: This complaint/reply is directed at the moderator of the Panama Forum (if there is one) and not at any of the participants.

As the title of this topic states clearly, it is an inquiry about how entry into the US from anywhere in the world is being conducted. It has nothing to do with Panamá specifically, or about expat life and living in Panamá. It is inappropriate for this forum and should not have been allowed to run.

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Saying Trump was elected by fools. The ones that are born every minute.

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Trump (love him , hate him or in between); lets just move on. This forum is for expats to help each other, not bag on each other.

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SunsetSteve: you obviously have mental issues judging by your vitriol. Everything you say is just parroting the fake main stream media narrative about President Trump. Your claims are not based upon facts but instead what you hear on the boob tube 24/7. Propaganda is powerful and it works on some people more than others. When you are so deeply brainwashed it is impossible to escape it. How sad. Do you want me to knock down every one of your hatered statements about Trump with facts and logic? The problem is doing so will be a waste if time because brainwashed people cannot see things any other way than they are programmed to think. So I'll refrain.

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SunsetSteve said: "Neither the judiciary nor the press is corrupt."

Hence why you have zero credibility beyond that statement.

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Bluewind said: "your delusional"... not a smart thing to say to someone who gets it more than you. If you want to disprove anything I say then go right ahead. I'm all ears. SunsetSteve's long rant can be factually disproved and only reflects his opinions based upon a mainstream narrative. He jumped off the deep end and can't climb out otherwise I'd take the time to factually refute everyone of his claims. The one about media not being corrupt took the prize. Or Trump being a failed businessman. LOL. Say no more. SunsetSteve has zero credibility.

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Bluewind said: "your delusional"... not a smart thing to say to someone who gets it more than you. If you want to disprove anything I say then go right ahead. I'm all ears. SunsetSteve's long rant can be factually disproved and only reflects his opinions based upon a mainstream narrative. He jumped off the deep end and can't climb out otherwise I'd take the time to factually refute everyone of his claims. The one about media not being corrupt took the prize. Or Trump being a failed businessman. LOL. Say no more. SunsetSteve has zero credibility.

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Bluewind said: "your delusional"... not a smart thing to say to someone who gets it more than you. If you want to disprove anything I say then go right ahead. I'm all ears. SunsetSteve's long rant can be factually disproved and only reflects his opinions based upon a mainstream narrative. He jumped off the deep end and can't climb out otherwise I'd take the time to factually refute everyone of his claims. The one about media not being corrupt took the prize. Or Trump being a failed businessman. LOL. Say no more. SunsetSteve has zero credibility.

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Joslin, as moderator of the Panama forum, the time has come to consider shutting down this thread. Betsy Burlingame, please support the integrity of this forum by shutting down this thread.

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Thank you

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I'm new to this list. It makes me sad to see this unexpected exchange. As an independent, I've seen rhetoric on both sides. However, in my 62 years, I'm amazed at the ungraciousness of liberals. More than not they seem to stoop to name calling if disagreed with. I may be just an old cattleman's wife but logic (and common courtesy) seems to have left the building.

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I too am neutral and am aghast at the lies and vitriol and name calling and bigotry etc. from conservatives/right wing.
New low in this great nation of ours.

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It's a shame that the idea of compromise is now considered a bad thing and shows weakness. It takes strength and a willingness to be open-minded to work together. IMO; only a weak person is unwilling to work with others with different views. Doesn't take a lot of work to say I'm right and your wrong.

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AMEN to that.

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Just my POV, but I read many comments on the on-line media sites, and the Trump supporters are just as mean as the liberals. As far as I'm concerned, both sides should be ashamed of themselves, and should quit being so narrow-minded and actually listen to each other.

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No doubt matters could improve greatly if each side were to listen more to the other. But for me, it is difficult to listen respectfully to the views and policies of President Trump, when just about everything he says is the polar opposite of my own values and beliefs, and lowers the dignity of the office. I really feel a degree of shame on being accurately classified as one of the "haters", but I feel honour bound to resist the evil of what I perceive as being base bigotry and destructive policies. Because of this I do not believe that compromise is a viable or realistic solution to the Great Divide. I fear the coming clash of values will be violent. I am glad to be removed from it.

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Augie PM ICYMI

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SunsetSteve
I understand what you are saying, and I have to admit I see no compromise with some of his radical views on some subjects. What I hope for is that other people will intervene to keep his radical and clearly racial agenda from becoming reality. Trump and his administration may be forced to compromise to get anything done. I'm hoping that reason and common sense prevails and ignorance and narrow-mindedness is considered a death sentence for any free country.

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Here's hoping.

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@Steve ... just curious, but why are you getting your panties in such a wad about American politics? You're Canadian and fixin' to migrate here to Panama.

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@therin4pres
The only persons ive ever heard use that expression have been women.
Are you?

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LOL ... nope. Something I picked up years ago and I guess it stuck.

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@Tharin - if you give it the tiniest amount of thought I am sure you will realize why the character and actions of the US President affect everyone. Especially when he is unpredictable, insecure, and impulsive.

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One example:
Trump budget proposes to slash funding for Great Lakes pollution cleanup from $300 million to $10 million

http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2017/03/trump_great_lakes_epa_cuts.html

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What I find interesting is that people who call President Trump a racist since he want's to screen immigrants want to retire in Panama which screens its incoming residents. If you have any arrests in your past you may be barred from obtaining a permanent residence visa in Panama where as if you're a murderer or a rapist you're offered free housing, food, healthcare, and education in the United States.

Oh the irony!

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@Steve ... Odd that you bring that up. With he exception of lake Michigan, Canada own 1/2 of the great lakes. I'll admit, I only took approx 10 minutes looking for an answer, but I only found one pledge by Canada in 2015 to come up with a plan in an attempt to eradicate a few of the newer aggressive species of fish introduced to the waterways. What is PM Trudeau's spending plan for the lakes?

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@ tharin4prez

You wrote:

"What is PM Trudeau's spending plan for the lakes? "

Probably the same as their military plan, rely solely on the U.S.

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Furthermore ...

Cutbacks must be made nationwide in order to sustain an economy. The U.S. spending is north of immoral.

IMHO in order to bring down the U.S. debt, taxes have to be raised, gov has to cut costs in just about every area, including the EPA and Lake project(s) ... And the U.S. has to put a stop to other nations additional funding. One example being ... Canada pledged military personnel and equipment to the previous Iraq campaign, but the U.S. absorbed tthe maintanance costs of Canada's pledge. This is one reason why a demand has been made to NATO to ensure each country is held accountable to pay their share of costs.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/world-debt-clock.html

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Get real. Cuts to EPA are intended to fund The Wall (to no useful purpose) and a significant military build-up. This by a country that currently spends more on military than the next 5 biggest military spenders in total. How dumb is that? So the waterways get polluted and the military contractors get richer. You take your choices I guess. Canada will focus spending on improving the environment while the US focuses on war. Nothing different there.

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Imagine - sending your children off to battle at the behest of The Donald. Think about it.

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Back in the 1960's, in NYC, before. The EPA, acid rain destroyed plants and the Hudson was “little more than an extension of millions of toilets.” Oh, and it “snowed” ash from incinerated garbage.

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Poor Steve he so mad. hang in there Pal.

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Comfort from a Trumpeteer is cold comfort indeed.

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One doesnt have to be a Trumpeteer or even like the guy (I dont) to realize how bad was the O'bama Administration and how corrupt was/is HIlliary and her philandering husband and the entire Clinton Foundation..........Face it Sunset.....it was a no win situation.........The U.S. is in deep kimchee as we say (or rather the Koreans) in Hawaii, and has been for quite some time......But the U.S. is sooo big that in some places you wouldnt even notice it.......You'd be tempted to think everything is rollin along just fine...........So it does depend on where you sit............But I predict it will soon be coast to coast and inescapable and unavoidable...........But as usual, I hope Im wrong........

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