klinkster
11/15/2012 13:59 EST
Has anyone had experience with getting a residency card for Paraguay? There is a co. in Ca. called Paraguay at your Service. I have only read their webpage but it sounds like they can faciliate this sort of matter. I wonder if anyone has dealt with them and what was your experience? I live in USA now but am considering a move to Asuncion in 2013. I speak basic to intermediate Spanish.
thanks! JH in USA
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anibalventura
11/15/2012 20:32 EST
hello JH,
ever been there?
i spend a few months and really did not fall in love with the place.
i had the chance to meet with a few atorneys dealing with the "radicacion" procedure.
Are you promoting the USA based service or looking for some info exchange ?
regards
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goldenchild
11/15/2012 20:46 EST
I myself am planning to relocate to PY starting in 2013. It will be a gradual relocation over the next 2-3 years. I would also like to start the residency process, so please let me know if you come up with a good/reliable service. I will do the same.
Kindly -
Sal
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anibalventura
11/15/2012 23:23 EST
@aramisss ,
dont get mad sir, but does it matter where final location would be ?
As im sure you are aware, migration agency is located in capital city, thus most providers [ attorney or net ] are located nearby.
regards
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majbjb
11/19/2012 22:00 EST
First of all, you don't need a lawyer or a "service" to obtain your residency. It's a fairly cut and dried process that is spelled out in depth on both the various Paraguayan gov't websites as well as on other forums. BUT, you need to have time, patience and the ability to interact in Spanish if you do it yourself. If you don't have the language skills, the patience, the time or your unsure of any of these, than your better off paying for someone to do the process for you. There are many expat assistance business's that advertise on line that would love to trade their services for your money. How much service they provide and how much of your money they take depends on many factors. Let's just say you have to be very careful in choosing someone. Never rely fully on slick websites, promises of the people wanting to provide the service, or glowing "one person" reports from a satisfied customer. The more input you can get the better. This forum and others have lots of posts of both happy and unhappy dealings with services like this, so start scrolling down and reading about other's experiences.
Options for "helpers" include the aforementioned slick expat helper services, local lawyers specializing in doing this service, any decent local lawyer, or a local informal helper. Prices will vary greatly as will service and reliability.
Good luck!
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ParaguayService
1/12/2013 00:52 EST
Klinkster, wow I found this thread on a google search. Yes we facilitate residency and relocation services and would welcome your business and would encourage you to comment on them here in the future.
Also majbjb has a point about the slick websites and you probably could do the residency process yourself with a bit of wasted time and runaround. It's certainly possible, just as you could see a city by yourself or pay a guide to get the local treatment and extra goodies, that's an individual choice.
We hope the best for you and your search for freedom and liberty.
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juan27
1/12/2013 08:59 EST
There are many "services". All are reliable, or most. Count with about 650-1500 USD per head. AND, be careful with so-called "friends and helper". There is one thing they do ALL, or try to do: getting the best of you. Your money.
Do NOT trust anyone here in this corrupted country.
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familiacaja
2/14/2013 17:00 EST
Just approved with receipt in hand! "Estadounidense" soon to have my cedula (resident's card). Beware of throwing your money at this situation; it can be expensive. There is a great deal of double and triple "legalizations" and "notarizations" involved and multiple trips to several police stations and "interpol". Most charges will be in the 1500-2000usd range for this. My wife (Paraguaya) and I did the entire thing and it is very taxing and trying. You need to say that old prayer about "patience" provided by God and plan to pay for every document to be notarized and photocopied. If you come from USA, in advance you MUST forward all required documents to the "designated" consulate general office depending upon your residency in the US. Check the consulate of Paraguay website for particular addresses. I suggest calling to verify the exact documents. Prepare yourself for providing at least five certified copies of your birth certificates, also two or more certified copies of your state police arrest record check documents AND the FBI criminal background check...remember, there are charges for each document when you have the "legalized" at the consulate. This must be done sooner rather than later. The FBI lists "agents" or locations which are approved to do electronic fingerprinting on their website at fbi.gov. As I reflect on this, I will post more.
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majbjb
2/20/2013 16:18 EST
Just discovered another little secret of the process of applying for residency I have not seen posted here or other places before. I offer it just in case others may find themeselves in the same situation. My wife is a former Paraugayan who got her US citizenship many years ago. Like others we know in her situation she just let her Paraguayan passport and cedula expire and just used her US passport to travel back and forth to Paraguay over the years. She is now applying for her cedula and has discovered, according to the attorney we are using, that she is the first "ex-Paraguayan who has ever in history applied for residency back in Paraguay". Whether this is true or not who is to say. But what this means according to the attorney and Immigration is that she must first apply to a court to formerly renounce her Paraguayan citizenship "after the fact". As she was not aware she had to do this upon getting her US citizenship which is the normal way it happens, this process willl be breaking new ground, be long and expensive. Upon getting done with this legal action she must then apply to Immigration to have her expired cedula formerly cancelled. This was another thing she should of done when she became a US citizen apparently. Of course upon getting her US citizenship and living in the US, none of this ever crossed her mind as being something that needed done.
So, these two legal actions may take up to a year. And at that time, she can then submit her residency request. The only good news in any of this is apparently upon filing the first legal action she gets some paperwork which will allow her to legally remain in country while all this stuff takes place, pending her application for residency. So ironically, my son and I will be legal residents with cedula's most likely before my ex-Paraguayan wife will be!
So if there are any ex-Paraguayan citizens out there that managed to "escape" and are considering heading back home for good, hope you keep all this in mind.
Just another day in paradise......
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