Watch out for women who sleep in your house because they will go in your wallet when you are sleeping. Yes,even the ones you trust that have never done it before.
I now count my money before I go to bed if I have a woman over.
Count how many 500, how many hundreds etc.
Once, there was a woman that I had helped with a chunk of money so she could get all the tests to get a job.
She asked me to go to the bathroom in my apt. I waited outside..
She stole my rent money in minutes.

Just because they haven't robbed you (or you haven't noticed) doesn't mean you can trust them.
Many of these women are supposedly very nice very "decent" women that I know were they live and know their families!

Even the well to do phillipino that owns this condo tried to rob me out of 2,000 PHP by pretending the electric bill was higher than it was!

At the same time I've had instances where I've overpaid my bill (when I first arrived & was unfamiliar with the currency mostly) and they've returned the money...

I think you would be wise never to give them the opportunity.

And women lie till they're blue in the face.

I had a case where I dated a 22 year old and then dated her cousin 21 and the cousin told me all the lies her cousin had told me to try and get money- she didn't.

I've verified many lies told in several instances...
To the point that I don't believe any "sub" stories anymore.

I have a Philippino friend that tells me I see them for one night and NO MORE.

Why I asked?

Because otherwise they are going to start bothering me about money!

And that's from one phillipino to another phillipino!

Other Americans told me, they will rob you,period.

It's amazing to say the least!

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Having been in the military, I heard the horror stories. Finding an honest Filipina is like finding a needle in a haystack.

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It seems likely that "girls that you only spend a night with" are a problematic crew in most countries.

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keep your wallet with you when you go to the shower

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Eeh, I thought laundering money was illegal---LOL..

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8 out of 10 cab drivers are sick, the interiors of their cabs are covered in germs (hand washing a must). Most cabbies are choking back coughs and sneezes. Young party boy cab drivers are nodding off behind the wheel in the morning.. I had one cabbie in his 60's driving in the afternoon on MacArthur Blvd. out of Davao who kept slowing down and closing his eyes to nap while driving. I resorted to yelling at him each time to wake up and speed up.

Watch out for imported cheese. I bought a ball of Edam that must have been 4 years old, rock solid; I cut into it with a hacksaw. All dairy is suspect as brownouts without any back up power are common (mouldy butter and spoiled milk). I have also seen shoppers opening up ice cream containers for inspection. Packaged nuts that aren't sealed can contain meal worms I found out..Yuk! Public urination by Pinoy's is common.

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It's good to launder your PH money, because so many people who handle it are sick.

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Your warning about pickpocketing in a jeepney - pickpocket happens in many places that is crowded. Paris, Athens, Chicago subways are just examples of places with signs that warn of pickpocketing.
A warning should be given to the filipino kids and all underprivileged filipinos taken advantaged by the foreigner - Pedophile-Aussie-nabbed-in-Philippines: http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/02/26/399328/Pedophile-Aussie-nabbed-in-Philippines

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I wasn't excluding other country's pick pockets as you should not exclude children from other countries who fall victim to physical and sexual abuse, The real issue is the extent of poverty in the PH, not perverts which every country has to deal with.

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You remind me of my two instructors in the AF. Both were stationed in the Philippines. One always called the Filipinos thieves and cheats. I believe his flip flops was always disappearing somehow. The other was married to a Filipina and got divorced. His warning was a Filipina will fold and iron your underwear and store it in the drawer, but once you say "I DO". She'll tell you to fold it yourself. Do not fall for it.
Something must have happened to you involving a Filipina/o. Every time you mention a negative in regards to the Philippines and its people, it can be replaced with any country and its people. No country is an angel. Every country have their bad apples.

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If you come here to play with the naughty girls then be prepared, some of these girls are VERY naughty, and even steal from you, how naughty is that? Play with fire and you will get your fingers burnt.... ......... eventualy

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@Chance2014, You are absolutely right on issues with the girls here. I've spent years on another site trying to let this be known - and still not many listen.

If anyone doubts what you have said, they should visit (not a competing site) Harry The Horse site to read some of the true stories. It's enough to give ya bad dreams! Harry's site is here: http://www.harrythehorse.asia/



Regards, Nephi

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Add warnings? How much time do you have? The list is VERY long! As to jeepneys, don't ever put your wallet in your back pocket. It's too tempting for pickpockets.

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Beware of corrupt extorting cops.

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Not all Filipino women are bad. There are honest Filipino woman but of course you can't usually find them in a bar or club that you visit. And if you want to find a good woman, you must have a good intention too. If you only want to bed her, then you are not looking for an honest one, go ahead and be rob as some of you said here. It's true that some Filipino women are after money and it's up to you if you want to be fooled by them. Use your heart but together with your brain. If you are 50 and a 24 years old Filipino woman said "i love you", will you believe it? maybe she like you, but you have to make sure that the one she like is YOU not your money or your citizenship. I'm not saying that no one falls in love with a very large age gap. Of course there is and they are lucky to find the honest one who is not interested in money. Don't fall in love so fast , don't easily believe what they say, start getting to know them which means a decent date, but if your brain contains only the bed part, chances are you wont find an honest one. i'm a Filipino, it's sad that Filipino women's reputation is really bad. Some of this woman think that all foreigner have money and its their solution to retire from poverty.

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Don't leave your things in a food court or even inside the restaurant even if it's a high class restaurant, don't be fool for middle aged woman in the street asking for 20, don't make a phone call or answer text messages while riding in a jeep, don't take a selfie either, i saw some of students doing this, goodness!, don't ride a jeep with one or two passenger only, even if it's a woman, don't fool for those people who ask for time, etc., they are getting your attention while some of her/his ally is robbing you, make sure that your bag is always in front of your body, use of sling bag is better, don't bring large amount, cards are better, if lost, report immediately, when withdrawing money from atm machine, make sure to withdraw inside the bank or inside the mall, for women or even man who usually ride a taxi, make sure to check the car number plate and send it to one of your friends, say you will be riding that taxi. I'm a Filipino, and just like you people here, I hated pick pockets!!!!!!! They have two hands two feet, complete body parts and not working but robbing!!!!! I wish there is a law here which will punish them by cutting their hands!!!!!

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You nailed it mate. In crowded areas, watch your pockets. Don't be a show off wearing jewelries, nice watches and nice sneakers if your in the streets, you don't want to be a target. I just wear a t shirt and my flip-flops all the time. Taxi's are the hardest part for me to deal with. There is always some sort of scheme. Non-metered, fixed price etc.. At night I usually use grab a taxi or uber.. heck more expensive but hey I'm much more comfortable with it.

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The biggest secret is to live in a part of the philippines that does not have pickpockets and disrespectful criminal types.
Beleive me they exist, I promise you.
1st rule stay away from manila.

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I wouldn't live in Manila but we visit now and then. Classy town was 100% right. You just got to be sensible be aware of who is around you use common sense.

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Chance, I class where u live as manila. Its close enough and its becoming just as built out.

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@Jingoy, I want to suggest that you report those taxi who are charging you fix fare, however, police officer here is just a display, an officer in uniform who extort money regardless if he or she is a Filipino or a foreigner. I myself have been a victim of this. So my advised, if you know how to drive, go for rent a car, now if that is expensive for you, there are private vehicles whom you can rent for their service, pick-up and drop off. You can see it in some ads like sulit.com. Safest of course, if you have a friend here in the Philippines ask them to give you a trusted driver with a car, then just pay for his service.

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Additional reminder: If you have a car and you feel like you need a fresh air while driving, though manila has a polluted air, but just in case, don't ever ever open your car window wide open, robbers riding in a motorcycle might see you as a target. don't text even while walking, this motorcycle riders will snatch whatever things you have on hand. I can't accept poverty as an excuse to do this things. Everyone needs to work to survive. This robbers go for an easy way, even if they have complete body parts. What a lame!

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If you purchase a ticket with Philippine Airlines for someone and pay with your credit card, then this person must have a photocopy of both sides of the card you used when they check in or Philippine Airlines won't give them a boarding pass. It's stated in the very tiny fine print on the ticket, but only a problem in the Philippines.

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Watch out that Philippine Airlines doesn't change your reserved seats to the very worst seats on you flight when they give you your boarding passes. They will try to conceal it under your electronic ticket or a connecting flight boarding pass to Manila. Don't bother making a complaint to Costomer Care because they will never follow up with you, and if you contact them about it, you will get a curt reply to Be Patient! Always verify that your boarding passes are for your reserved seats before leaving the line up. Make sure they give back your electronic ticket They will blame you if they don't. I have experienced them being rude to foreigners (me) in the morning check ins (no coffee?). Of course they are always very polite to their own nationals.

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classytown, your insights here will be very valuable.

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Beware of everything. Poverty breeds crime, greed breeds corruption. Because of this many Filipinos are taught from an early age that it is okay to lie, cheat, and steal. I'm sure I will get a lot of flack for speaking the truth.

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in what society is this not true?

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Jason,

With the majority of the locals I think you are spot on.

I do think though that most don't make an effort to "teach" their kids these things.

Children learn what they life and will most often follow the example set by parents.

That then causes them to befriend the wrong kind of kids as school and on the street.

Parents need to learn how to be parents so as to be able to teach, guide, and direct their children in the first place.

Unfortunately, that will likely never happen here.
We see this every day in our section of *paradise* and it's a sad reminder of ignorance, stupidity, greed, and a general lack of caring produces.


Nephi

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It takes one to know one maybe but it only takes one post to make your point. Stop double posting.

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You are 100 percent correct on all counts Nephi!

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As I read the continuing posts on this thread, it makes me realize that most of our problems and bad experiences here are self induced by our own bad choices. Also, we all have our own take on things and life in general. So two or more people might experience the same thing but have vastly different thoughts and feelings about it.

Now, I'm part of the over 60 crowd and all my life have had little patients with many things.

Unfortunately, age has most definitely not improved my level of tolerance for BS etc.

At the same time, I have to wonder how and where some of our posters live that seem to have so much difficulty now or in the past years living here in the islands.

Don't get me wrong; life can be and is frustrating on a daily basis. But there is an awful lot of good and decent people here as well as the bad. I'm married with kids and have lived in country for many years and would not change a thing.

We live (by choice) in Central Luzon in an area where the only fence is that on our front porch. This area/town that we chose so long ago has us up close and personal with families and people so poor that many times they must miss meals and are unable to send their children to school.

I am in no way saying that the Philippines is a safe place to live because quite the opposite is true to the extreme.

So without having one ounce of trouble in all the years living here, My rhetorical question still stands.

Where and what kind of lifestyle to some our posters live to have so many bad and even dangerous experiences??!



Regards

Nephi

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"Unfortunately, that will likely never happen here.
We see this every day in our section of *paradise* and it's a sad reminder of ignorance, stupidity, greed, and a general lack of caring produces." I'm a little surprised you would say such a thing after saying the aforementioned Nephi. People who misbehave and bring negative consequences upon themselves would probably not admit it. On the other hand, it is far too easy to get into life threatening situations here without doing anything to bring about same. It's just the culture, and you can't change the culture.

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I agree with what nephi posted. I have witnessed quite a few places in philippines where there is verually zero crime and everone respects each other.
The problem is most of you guys seem to want to live in a place where there are huge malls, lots of free roaming women and bad foreign food.
You only have yourself to blame. Do some exploring and you will find these places that nephi speaks of.

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Jason, I make the statements as life here is a two edged sword and for many people, it takes time to discover that fact. It is true that lack of knowledge of the country, culture (or lack of it) can cause people to step into a trap without knowing it till it's too late.
On the other hand though; there are many that have lived here for many years that no matter what happens, they will keep stepping in the same pile or s**t every time. So some learn the hard way while other either don't have the ability to learn or simply don't care.
Either way, this is and can be a great place to live without having problems or it can a place where foreigners get their bodies recycled into fish food.

Nephi..

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@Poochewer,,, Sometimes I realize just how lucky my wife and family and I are where we live. We are about a 30 minute ride on our motor trike from SM Clark and also Marquee Mall. Yet we are out in kind of a country setting where one would never feel so close to the city.
Just this morning my 11yr old daughter and I took our trike into Dau to pay a bill, stopped at Hypermart, and then on to Mc Donalds for a burger etc. Fantastic place to live and maybe it's just my perception of things but ran into nothing but nice people all morning. Even at Mc Do, we found that they had a group of kids about 8 and 9 yr olds on summer camp. All dressed in Mc Donalds uniforms and learning to work behind the counter as part of their summer camp activities. Great fun for sure!!

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I know what you mean, nephi. We are also in semi rural spot, and we sometimes travel a couple of kilometers to attend a mall, and I enjoy the trip, but I read it many times on these forums, when people give advice to newbies to actually move to and settle in a big city with huge malls etc. It sounds like its the only important prerequisite for a happy life here, and thats certainly not true, in fact I never tell anyone where I live, simply cos I would hate this place to ever become full of foreign "mall lovers"
I know that sounds selfish and I recon it is, but, generally speaking I have found that the greater the number of westerners in an area, often that area has more crime and unease, not to mention higher prices.

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Whereabouts are you outside of AC Nephi?

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Sending you a PM..

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I agree Nephi. I guess my point is that the people who keep stepping in the same pile of s@+* here will not admit it. On the other hand it is far too easy to have problems here when you are careful not to cause them due to the Filipino mentality andcculture that cannot be changed.

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Exactly right on all counts and all this stuff makes living here interesting. I'm still learning day by day even after many years. But still better than being back in Southern Calif.

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Poochewer, I agree with you for sure. Crime follows the $$$ and then the expats become even more recluse as a result.
Some people do thrive in a big city environment but I think most hate the crowds, traffic, and related smog an crime.

I'll tell ya what I do notice is the lack of interest other foreigners have in even saying hello in shopping malls or most places in public. In most cases even eye contact in intentionally avoided. Never understood that but to each their own.

Nephi

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@PC - I agree with what you are saying PC. It's about the quality of life which is non existant in the boiling mega city & malls. I think it has something to do with materialism. Even though I say where I live, I'm not worried that a bunch of foreigners would descend here. It's very Filipino with the huge Public Market, crush of tricycles, street vendors, and maze of little shops and side streets. A ways from town there is a gated subdivision with some western inmates that appear at the lone mall. Otherwise I don't ever see any white faces. My neighborhood is incredibly friendly. Everyone greets me. The Swiss guy across from me is leaving for home. Just one old Italian left besides me. Few westerners could hack the slow pace of life here.

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I have to agree with whats been said many non Filipino seem to show little in the way of a wish to have a chat get together seem to almost avoid you !
I dont know if there scared your going to steal there woman or going to be a problem in some way...

I have a very nice women and not looking for anyone else, having said that I live 4 hours away from Manila and an hour away from the local main city and seeing any foreigners is rare and to be honest I feel maybe its better !

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I also find the same phenomena with a few more exceptions with Filipinos that my wife runs into in Canada.

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When I move to the Phils I intend to live in an area where there are not many expats.
I want to avoid the negative stereotypes an expat brings and bragging of other expats. I want to assimilate into the culture.

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The malls are where the large supermarkets are. You need ragu once in a while!

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Funny, while I was reading this string my wife came in and said the neighbors are burning the fields again and creeping up onto our property. We live on a 2 hectare farm and surrounded by working farms. Severe drought on Palawan now and very dry so I've figured out they burn the fields so they can get new growth for the animals until rainy season. They like to wait until it's windy so the fire moves past. Problem is they start it and wander off. Just came in from extinguishing it. They call it a 'controlled burn' :-)

I bought a brushcutter and keep the property clean with fire breaks. We build with cement and steel and recommend not using 'native style' roofs if you move to the countryside. The embers fly regularly at this time of year. These Kubos will go up in seconds.

Latest bad guy stuff in Puerto Princesa is two man motor scooter teams swooping past women carrying purses and snatching them off their arms, sometimes dragging them down the street. Also bored teenagers throwing rocks at passing cars. I have an old Strada pickup and my brother sent me a really nice Dash Cam. Could be invaluable. Foreigner is always deemed at fault. Interesting thing is more vehicles than not don't have brake lights so stay back. They will stop for no reason in the middle of traffic.

W live 30KM from PPC and only go there during daylight hours for basic stuff, maybe 1-2X a week. Puerto Princesa is getting crowded, hot and dangerous with all the Manila construction folks moving to town. If you are considering moving here, don't move to PPC unless you are elite rich.

I find the locals to be are very kind but they live at below poverty levels. They don't know where the next meal for their family is coming from and no one accepts responsibility. Always someone else's fault. No one teaches kids morals, character, ethics, etch. A Filipino buddy told me that was the responsibility of the school so I asked my teenage nieces if that every happened. No Tito, never. They have no clue about life... sad.

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Its not the responsibility of schools to teach morals in PI. These are imbibed by the Church which is a key component of the culture and underpins all aspects of individual and family values. Of course there are contradictions galore in religious practices and actual behaviours, but the fundamental role of the Church in Philippine society should not be underestimated.

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So parents think it's the schools responsibility to teach kids morals and ethics, the schools think it's the parents responsibility, and now it's being said that it's the church's responsibility. Since everybody thinks it is somebody else's responsibility, nobody is doing it, thus the culture that it is okay to lie, cheat, and steal.

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It's my responsibility as the father to teach my children how to be good human beings, nobody else. And I don't want them teaching them anyway.

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@allconcerned

Pound your beliefs into your kids. Take them to the churches that suit you and enroll them in schools that reinforce your beliefs. If you prevail, your actions will surely mitigate the possibility of them ever having negative thoughts about the way they were raised. Give them the wisdom to understand how forum topics mutate as quickly as bacteria in unrefrigerated petri dishes.

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I'd much rather deal with the issues here than if I was living in Baltimore, Oakland, Chicago, LA, etc...

But then again, I don't go to Manila, I stay in the province or Cebu area.

Why come halfway across the world to live in Manila?

I agree with ASLN 4-5 posts above.

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I think a good safe is money well spent to put your wallet and other valuable inside

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Welcome To philippines

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It's not just the Philippines. This is a problem in many countries. As a retired NYPD detective I've seen my share of crime in New York City and abroad. Criminals are everywhere. No matter where you go you must always be aware of your surroundings. Let's not paint one country with the same brush. I've traveled to many places and have never seen a country that has displayed as much hospitality, kindness and warmth as the Philippines.

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When moving from CA, we were advised to remove all prescriptions from the medicine cabinet. Plus anything that had marginal value to lock away. At open houses people are taking the prescriptions and any high value OTC meds.

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Good point losgatosmike!

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Hello my friend tlallen,
I hope you found a place to shoot. We live now 2 hours north of NYC. I tell my 16 year old son (he was born in the Philippines), anything he does reflects on the way I raised him. If I meet one of his friends who is respectful, my initial feeling is he was raised correctly. I'm proud that my son doesn't smoke (anything), drink or use any bad language. It is the sole responsibility of the parents to raise their kids to be respectful, happy and hopefully successful in their own way of life.

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Hah!
I am sure he will make a "clean" escape.

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I've learned. I have one of those fanny pack things that is hitched around my waste. No one can get at it. The people here are largely poor and have struggled with a corrupt society. Some of the people here are very beautiful and kind. But you have to find them.

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Fanny packs went out of style in the '70's and it takes 1 second to cut one off of your waist.

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Hi I have found most people are lovely here yes there are a few you have to be careful with but I have had no problem with any of the locals and it is not all doom and gloom certainly not in Davao area

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I still wear 70's clothes. I see many wearing them here. Wallets are very easily misplaced and left behind. If someone is that desperate to steal from you then you may be dead anyway. Filipinos dont want to be noticed.

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They do it all the time. If they don't cut the strap, they simply cut the bag itself, and yes, many are desperate enough to stab you, this also happens all the time here. You probably know that there is very little value placed on human life here.

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I had my wallet stolen in a church in Bulacan which is north of Manila in 2011 and I am still here , be careful If you use messenger bags I now use a safari type light jacket with many pockets inside so far I have never been robbed there again I now live in Davao been here for one year and love it here you just have to be careful

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I remember once having them stop our jeepney at night so we could eat and this guy came skulking out of the shadows of a nearby building. I know he was going to try to rob us...me. I meandered over to the glove compartment where there was a gun. He got the idea and disappeared. I am like a duck, hyper vigilant and aware, but with a wild eyed bovine encephalopathy type gander. People don't like to mess with the crazy cano.

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There was a gun in the jeepney glove box??

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Stolen in a church.... How ironic. Smart to have inside pockets.

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It wasn't mine. There had been threats. Confirmed. My wife was going up against some very powerful government people. I was maneuvering the legalistics and doing the lawyering. I wasn't about to get popped by Gollum.

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The list goes on and on and on. Beware of everything here. Poverty breeds crime and greed breeds corruption.

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You are lucky. The highest level guy who extorted me was a police station commander, and it was a very deadly situation. I should have let my mercenary buddy do what he wanted to do but I just got out of the kill zone and let it go.

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At the time none of the police could have done anything to me. I befriended the City Director of the PNP and the Chief Super of the PNP for this region, as well as the Director of the NBI. It would have been difficult for anyone to give me trouble. Not impossible, but difficult.

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The problem is you don't know who you can trust. I know somebody who was kidnapped and tortured by the PNP, and I know somebody else who had his life threatened by a Mayor.

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A little poco loco goes a long ways

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It's always a good thing to be friends with the local police outpost and their superiors. A very easy way to do this is to donate funds on special events. Christmas parties, etc.... A big weakness of Filipinos is friendship. They will do anything for a friend. Make friends with the local police!!!

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"This is not a business ad"
We own a boarding house and each room has 2 - 4 beds. Sometimes only one person in a room for a few months and that person gets used to some privacy. Then when we put a new boarder in with him/her he/she says, "no, I will pay the whole room because I want my privacy." Then we say, "you must pay the whole room rent from the time you moved in." "But but but....," they say.
Relevance? Some people will try to get over on you at any time.

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Another way to keep friendly with local Police is to Join the Foreign National Keepers Network who meet once a month with local police in your area to discuss any issues which come up

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Another way to keep friendly with local Police is to Join the Foreign National Keepers Network who meet once a month with local police in your area to discuss any issues which come up

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I'd be saying 'But, but, but...." too. Maybe a little more.

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Maybe I am missing part of this conversation by picking it up late. But why would you make the person pay retroactively when he was willing to pay the whole room?

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If I was the tenant I would vote with my feet better some rent than none at all. Plenty of bed spacers around

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I don't get it. It doesn't make sense to me either.

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whos trying to get on over you? You are trying to back charge someone when you had no renter.
Why don't you charge the full price for a single renter then reduce the price when additional renters become available. Super shuttle in the U.S base their services that way..

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Yes, back charging anybody for anything is just plain bad business.

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I was skillfully pickpocketed while climbing onto the MRT in Manila. The pushing and shoving onto the train is a perfect environment for pick pockets.

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