Quailriver
12/24/2008 20:43 EST
My wife and I are considering retiring to South America in a few years and from what I have read Uruguay seems like a good country to consider. I am a bit of a Rockhound and Lapidary enthusiast and when we make our first scouting visit to Urugauy I would like to visit the Amethyst and Gem producing areas of Artigas in the Northern part of the country. Can anyone on this site give us an idea what this area is like to visit or possibly even live in? Also are there any other good mineral or gem producing areas in Uruguay? Thank you! Best Regards, Larry C.
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antaresuy
12/27/2008 13:10 EST
The area is very poor. The people have it really hard there to earn money. The soil is not too good for agriculture although you have some vinery production and sugar cane. Mainly the ground is of volcanic origin and the people who works in the mines don't earn much money and work under very tough conditions.
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antaresuy
12/27/2008 13:11 EST
The area is very poor. The people have it really hard there to earn money. The soil is not too good for agriculture although you have some vinery production and sugar cane. Mainly the ground is of volcanic origin and the people who works in the mines don't earn much money and work under very tough conditions.
Peter Stross Uruguayan Relocation Services http://www.uruguay-relocation.com uruguayan.relocation@montevideo.com.uy
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Quailriver
12/29/2008 14:37 EST
Thank you for your response. How is the crime situation in the Artigas area? Best Regards, Larry C.
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antaresuy
12/30/2008 08:38 EST
The crime rate is more or less the same in Uruguay. Usually you don't hear news about crimes in Artigas, as there is not much population there. Other regions near the border might have a higher crime rate depending on the movement or the kind of border.
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valentine
From: Uruguay
1/7/2009 03:07 EST
Hi,
I am addressing this to Peter, in the hopes that he can respond to the gentleman from Alabama with more insight than I on this particular point.
Do you really think a foreigner, especially an American, would find anything but hostility and constant robbery if he moved to Artigas?
I don't think an "estranjero" will find a pleasant life trying to integrate anywhere in the interior.
We Americans seem to think we are welcome everywhere, probably because we have such a big country and no matter where we move within it we feel we can carve out a nice little niche for ourselves. Which is pretty much true in the US. But this does not extend to the rest of the world.
So, Peter, if these Americans have no connection to anyone in Artigas, and they move there, do you really think they will be okay?
I don't, but I am an estranjero who settled in Pocitos, so my perspective may not be completely accurate. I would be very interested in your insights.
Elena Valentine
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antaresuy
1/7/2009 06:46 EST
Hi Elena,
Uruguayans are peacefull and friendly. But in the corner of Artigas you have borders to both of our neighbours too and the influence is quite big, as even the language is a mixture of Spanish and Portugueese.
You also have to consider, that the regular population in this area is very poor and are not used to expensive stuff like in the cities.
I don't think that you will find hostility with your neighbours, but people speaks and tells around what you do and how you live. This could atract somebody who is not your neighbour (as everywhere else).
By the rule US citizens are the less beloved foreigners in Uruguay (and in several countries in Latin America, Asia and Europe). I think you should think about of political reasons for that. Maybe the US has made some bigger mistakes throughout the world. This is not my thought on the individual, but you know that lots of people generalize.
In the area of Artigas the other main income apart from gems is sugar cane. Hard work and not big income. Look for similarities and you will maybe find some explanations.
They might be OK. This is something I cannot tell you, as their attitude is also very important when they settle down. They should have a very low profile and try to revert the opinion of people might have of the US and it's population.
I know Elena. Maybe you do not remember me, but I do remember you.
Kind regards,
Peter Stross Uruguayan Relocation Services http://www.uruguay-relocation.com E-Mail: uruguayan.relocation@montevideo.com.uy Cel.: (++598) 99 600 455 Skype: PeterStross
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valentine
From: Uruguay
1/14/2009 03:39 EST
Yes, Peter, now I do remember you. You were very helpful when I first moved to Uruguay. You were working for someone else at the time. I thought I would post this note because I see you have your own company now and I would like to definitely recommend that anyone needing assistance moving to Uruguay contact you. There are many nuances to making a successful move that an "insider" can help with. And there are some dangers that you can certainly steer your clients away from.
Plus you are very gracious, "less beloved" is a very polite understatement!
As the natives say, Besos, Elena
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Eclipse1T
2/19/2009 01:30 EST
Valentine, I don't think an "estranjero" will find a pleasant life trying to integrate anywhere in the interior.
Does this also apply to good farming land in the interior?
Thanks for your answer. Eclipse
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antaresuy
2/22/2009 06:06 EST
Eclipse,
I think you are not exactly right. It always depend on what expats want or need and how they can integrate with the society where they are going to live.
My experience with expats is, that those who live in urban areas always try to meet more expats. I know lots of people who are not in urban areas or in towns where they are the only expats, and they have no problem whatsoever with living there. They are just considered as one mor of the population in the area. This takes about 2 or 3 years, but people in Uruguay is friendly and if you don't make you hate yourself, half of the way is already done.
Peter Stross Uruguayan Relocation Services http://www.uruguay-relocation.com uruguayan.relocation@montevideo.com.uy
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