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Morell
  8/22/2015 07:33 EST

There is an interesting article in the newspaper today about robberies.

it suggests that there has been quite an increase in robberies of pedestrians often by motorcyclists. But the good news is that robberies on buses is down.

There is a map showing the streets that have had the most crime.

http://www.elpais.com.uy/informacion/avenidas-riesgo-rapinas.html

Take care and be safe.

LD
  8/23/2015 09:05 EST

Thanks Morell. And the map was interesting. Will just share our personal experiences.

We just returned from 3 weeks in Montevideo -stayed by Plaza Gomensoro.
My son and I took the bus everywhere. We also took recommendations from locals and friends on how to travel and we had no problems getting around town and the outskirts of Montevideo central.
Thanks again, Lori

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Morell
  8/26/2015 07:20 EST

Today there is more info on crime in Montevideo showing the areas with the most murders.

http://www.elpais.com.uy/informacion/barrios-capital-tasas-homicidios-brasil.html

If the 2011 Census data are taken, it was 4.9 per 100,000 population: higher than New York.

Although Uruguay remains among the countries with fewer homicides per number of inhabitants in Latin America (along with Chile and Argentina), the rate is much higher than that of several European countries such as Italy, Spain, Germany, Sweden, Austria, Belgium, France and the Netherlands, Greece and the UK, which have a rate of between one and 1.5 homicide.

Morell
  8/29/2015 07:54 EST

Those looking for a bus or taxi today will find them in very short supply.

Yet another murder of a taxi driver has resulted in a 24 hour strike of most buses and cabs. It may be extended to Sunday according to the Union.

carlitos
  8/29/2015 09:54 EST

I am always wondering how in hell those strikes can mitigate the this kind of crime. They refuse to take plastic as a way to accept payment on cabs. There must be some hidden forces acting on this issue.

Morell
  8/29/2015 09:57 EST

I read they are trying to switch to credit card payments but it seems to be taking time to get the cabs set up for this.

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crazyfarmer
  8/30/2015 20:01 EST

If you arm all of the cab and bus drivers and don't send them to jail for protecting themselves... problem solved.

This is also the perfect solution to stop houses from being robbed. The castle doctrine works great. Thieves will think twice before invading a house if they're worried about armed home owners who are free to shoot intruders.

They'll of course never implement this though because politicians like violence. It allows them to increase the size of government while appearing to "do something" while actually doing nothing.

It's the same everywhere on the planet. I expect it to get worse.

kimbo47
  8/31/2015 00:35 EST

Correction you left the country where its legal to defend yourself and the castle doctrine works great! My boss house was broken into last month and he shot the hoodlum dead with a shotgun and he was not charged of anything. He also has a permit to carry concealed but some states are permitting to carry open. I'm sure the hoodlums are a bit more careful now not knowing who can be armed.
I don't believe its a politician problem I believe its that the people in SA are not ready to carry arms.

Morell
  8/31/2015 07:30 EST

I think turning Uruguay into a mini USA is a dreadful idea.

Look how things are going there with uncontrolled gun possession.

Saw this on an Ecuador site.

A local commented, “Foreigners think they know everything and have all the answers to our problems. I wonder why they didn’t fix things in the country they come from.”

letsmove
  8/31/2015 07:55 EST

"people in SA are not ready to carry arms." Thank God for that.

Wanderlustspirit
  8/31/2015 08:25 EST

Morell - be careful what you read in the U.S. Media. A lot of the supposed "gun problems" in the U.S. are orchestrated "false flags" in preparation for the UN's gun grab on U.S. Soil that will occur no later than May 2016.

Go back & read history & note how disarming the populace occurred right before genocide.

Regardless, we had 2 men approach the house the other day, driving a large sedan. 5 PM in the evening & start walking towards the house. My husband went out to see who they were & they acted like they had come to see the house (has not been on the market for several months once we agreed to a contract). I have no reservations for finding anything to inflict harm to anyone that comes on my property to harm me or my family with anything I can put my hands on. ISO if a gun isn't accessible, will that stop people from using a shovel, axe, baseball bat, cast iron skillet, baseball hat or rock? Hell no!

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Wanderlustspirit
  8/31/2015 08:28 EST

Letsmove - armed robberies are occurring throughout Uruguay. I have been warned by several people. Do not fool yourself into thinking criminals, thieves & other people intent on their own agenda , without a moral compass, are not carrying guns...

Morell
  8/31/2015 12:49 EST

I have only read that this info is incorrect.

The above-referenced piece of scarelore about the United States' having already entered into a such a treaty — one which supposedly provides a "legal way around the 2nd Amendment" and will result in a "complete ban on all weapons for US citizens" — is erroneous in all its particulars:

The Arms Trade Treaty has nothing to do with restricting the legal sale or ownership of guns within the United States. The aim of the U.N. Arms Trade Treaty is to combat the illicit international trade of arms by "tightening regulation of, and setting international standards for, the import, export and transfer of conventional weapons" in order to "close gaps in existing regional and national arms export control systems that allow weapons to pass onto the illicit market":

Read more at

http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/untreaty.asp

lanman
  8/31/2015 13:14 EST

So, does anyone know and can share the relevant Uruguayan laws on self defense? If the castle doctrine doesnt apply, what does?

Even in the usa, laws vary by state.

letsmove
  8/31/2015 14:40 EST

Wanderlustspirit, yes armed robberies do happen here and everywhere else in the world. The forum is a tool to help people determine if Uruguay is the right choice and also to touch bases with other expats when they have questions. You won't find mountains of paranoia and fear here and the people are non violent and kind. So no one is going to take my gun and round me up into a FEMA camp to be gassed. When you listen to those who tell you the government is going to take your guns, it builds your fears and you probably went out and bought more guns. Like Marilyn Manson said "Fear sells." Relax.

kimbo47
  8/31/2015 15:04 EST

Morell I'm not defending any side but the truth. But in the US people have a right to buy a gun like any other item. That is called freedom.

And I don't know what you mean about " uncontrolled gun possession" there are many laws to abide by before you can purchase one like the 5 day cool period , age, no criminal records etc. and you can only have it at home not carry it unless you have a permit. And that requires a thorough investigation of your person as well as interviews with work place management, spouse and neighbors telling them of your intentions and asking them if they feel you are qualified to carry a gun.

It also has to be renewed every few years and as soon as you commit any law violation its cancelled. Its not perfect like anything else and is being reviewed and improved constantly. Believe me its not easy to obtain a gun legally.

I'm surprised at you which always has so much FACTUAL information on UY and I look forward to ALL your postings that have helped me so much in gathering actual info on UY to be able to make an educated decision. I'm still your devoted follower and look forward to all your informative and factual postings.

Illegally that is a different issue. Anybody can buy one easily as long as they have the money but this is the same anywhere including UY. Don't fool yourself criminal always have guns no matter what you think and no matter how many laws prohibit it.

You are the only person responsible to protect yourself and your family from harm by others not the police. They usually arrive just in time to file a report of the facts because a robbery or a murder happens in seconds.

Think of how you would protect yourself or your children if some crazy person came into your house in the middle of the night with a gun to rob or abuse you or your children?

A gun is an equalizer which will put you on an equal basis with the assailant no matter how big, strong or how many even if you are a weak woman or man.

How would you feel in a situation like mentioned above or similar being totally helpless???

Even the police in UY (which have guns) avoid tangling with gangs there (as reported here in a link) because they are heavily armed.

And by the way the guns are for the law abiding citizens as an equalizer protection.
Criminal even though they have guns can also use an ax, a machete a bat , a knife you name it. Again how will you protect your child or yourself if you encounter this situation? There is no one else but you that carries this responsibility.

Yes it would be nice to live in a world w/o any crime but unfortunately that is not the case no matter where you move to and the responsibility of protecting yourself and your children/family its only YOURS no matter where you go!!!!

kimbo47
  8/31/2015 15:06 EST

I would be interested to know how much thanks you would give if someone (god forbid) entered your home in the middle of the night and shot a family member while you watched helplessly!

Morell
  8/31/2015 15:08 EST

I have heard from several locals that the only place you can legally kill someone is in your bedroom.

Comments about dragging the body into the bedroom before calling the police have been mentioned.

I think outside your house would definitely be considered murder here.

crazyfarmer
  8/31/2015 15:31 EST

First, the couple who run snopes are total sell-outs. I wouldn't trust anything they say. You can count on them to toe the party line 100%.

Second, should we fear rattlesnakes? Obviously we shouldn't lock ourselves in our houses for fear of accidentally running into a rattlesnake. But if you stumble upon one by accident, you would be wise to fear and respect the rattlesnake, then take appropriate measures to protect yourself.

When considering the danger and amount of fear and respect that's appropriate for things like being the victim of an armed robbery or the victim of a government who wants you dead, it's important to take a clear, logical, and level-headed approach, free from emotion to the extent possible.

You can choose to trust corrupt news sources and believe manufactured lies, "the narrative", feeling safe as a result without regard to whether you are actually safe. You can subconsciously pre-decide the conclusion you want to reach, point at the news sources who support your conclusion, and ridicule the ones who do not, because, after all, that's the socially safe position to take. You wouldn't want people making fun of you or accusing you of being crazy would you?

Or you can acknowledge the obvious and painful facts. Governments often kill their own people by the millions. There were 17 genocides (for more than 100,000,000 people) carried out by governments against a portion of their own population in the 20th century for political, racial, religious or economic reasons, all of them preceded by gun confiscation. Corporations often team up with governments to enslave or rob the people in a country. Politicians are corruptible humans, susceptible to the kinds of heavy duty temptations being handed out by those who wish to influence government. People often argue that these kinds of things are impossible in the US or other civilized "1st world" countries. But are US politicians really any less susceptible than the politicians in any other country? Simply watching mainstream news shows that they are not.

I've analyzed the situation by using some information sources and ignoring others that I know to be corrupted, and come to a conclusion. Then I acted on this conclusion, all this after more than six years of research carefully weighing the information along the way. And here's what I think: World War 3 is coming. A world-wide economic crash is coming. There's a coordinated effort, already under way, to reduce world population by at least 90% by any means necessary.

These are only the highlights. Chose to ignore the world around you at your own peril.

kimbo47
  8/31/2015 15:35 EST

> You won't find mountains of paranoia and fear

Letsmove good post and informative about UY and its people from your perspective but I would like to reassure you that we can handle the truth without paranoia. The facts are facts and you must be able to handle the truthful news with calm so you will never be surprised and able to take the proper measures and that is true about anything. Taxes, new laws, rationing, floods etc and that is anywhere in the world including UY. From this post it seems there is concern there.

I'm sure no one will take your guns because they already have, you can't have one!

EdNewYorkCity
  8/31/2015 17:04 EST

First of all, it is legal to posses arms in Uruguay, as long as you get a permit.
How can you defend yourself from a home invasion? According to the “constitution”, title 11, article 298, it is illegal to enter someone else home, especially during the night. If you kill the invader odds are in your favor as long as you can prove he was about to kill you. You don’t have the right to kill someone just because he invaded your home but you have the right to defend yourself. The key in understanding the law is the word “proportional”, you can defend yourself using a weapon or force of about the same capabilities of the aggressor’s. If the aggressor is about to strike you with a knife and you shoot him, the way I see it it is justified (he could have killed you). In the US a cop can kill you if he thinks his life is in danger, even if the aggressor doesn’t have a weapon. This wouldn’t fly in Uruguay, the threat has to be real not just psychological. I don’t know if I’m making it complicated but the main point is that you’re entitle to defend yourself but have to be careful how you do it. Shooting an invader who is running away will probably get you in jail. The defense has to match the aggression if that makes sense.

kimbo47
  8/31/2015 17:08 EST

Carlitos I believe this is the way the taxi drivers and bus drivers are trying to tell the government they need more protection! This type of protest is very common from groups that need to convey a need or want to government.
Its certainly affecting the country and the public is the one who suffers unfortunately but they have a good reason since another taxi driver was killed.
Carlitos what is "RAPINA" an assault ?

kimbo47
  8/31/2015 17:28 EST

Ednewyorkcity thanks for such an informative post. It seems the defense laws in UY are similar to the US but you have to be very careful if you shoot someone or can wind up in jail same as the US, that is why I said you need to be a responsible citizen and TOTALLY understand the law and your rights.

I don't believe in the "proportional "method because someone can kill you or hurt you badly with their bare hands with one blow. In my state if someone enter your home at night and you feel your life is in danger you can shoot him whether he has a gun or not (they almost always carry a gun because when someone enters your home knowing you are there they come ready to kill you) but you still have to face a jury and convince them it was reasonable to fear for your life.

One of my neighbors (90 yrs old) was driving at night and a PU truck intercepted him and a big guy got out and started coursing at him very Irate and beating on his window with his fist. He is armed but even though he feared for his life being a responsible citizen he waited and the guy finally broke his window and beat him merciless and he's been in a coma for 2 years. Even the police told his wife he should have shot him. Its a split second decision you have to make and then defend it. So its not a walk in the park and you carry a lot of responsibility. It turned out the guy was upset because he passed him.

carlitos
  8/31/2015 18:09 EST

Kimbo,

Jurídicamente, la rapiña como delito, sufrió una evolución desde su nacimiento en el Derecho Romano (bona vi rapta) castigándose en un principio a los daños que cometían las bandas armadas, frecuentes durante las guerras civiles que se sucedieron en los últimos tiempos del período republicano, aunque luego se configuró por el arrebato violento aunque lo cometiera un solo individuo, siempre que el que lo cometiera, supiera que la cosa era ajena, pues si le quitaba a otro violentamente su posesión creyendo que le pertenecía al atacante, no era rapiña. En el sentido de grupos armados se usa en nuestros días cuando se aplica por ejemplo a los soldados que se apoderan de las pertenencias de los enemigos vencidos. También se lo conoce como pillaje.

El delito de rapiña, es llamado robo en la actualidad por la mayoría de los códigos penales, aunque en la República Oriental del Uruguay, por ejemplo, aún se conserva el nombre de rapiña para nombrar a la sustracción de cosas muebles en forma violenta o mediando amenazas (art.334 del Código penal uruguayo). La rapiña calificada, mientras tanto se identifica con el copamiento, que además de quitarle la cosa mueble a su dueño o tenedor legítimo le priva de su libertad.

kimbo47
  8/31/2015 18:15 EST

Tremendo. Gracias.

kimbo47
  9/1/2015 19:23 EST

Crazy,
great post as usual. You are a citizen of the world and have your head well placed.

I loved your last paragraph and believe it like you. I hope we are wrong because this time it will be nuclear ugly.
I Can't agree with your last sentence and find 90% absurd. Anywhere I can learn more on this?

crazyfarmer
  9/2/2015 00:16 EST

Search google and youtube for Agenda 21 population reduction

Morell
  9/2/2015 06:48 EST

And I thought only the nut bar Tea Party folk believed stuff like that.

http://www.alternet.org/story/153554/how_right-wing_conspiracy_theories_may_pose_a_genuine_threat_to_humanity?page=entire

EdNewYorkCity
  9/2/2015 15:06 EST

Agenda 21 is a necessary project that aims at planning the world of tomorrow in a way that is sustainable, healthy and economically sound, nothing wrong with that. Call me naïve or optimistic for not seeing the dark empires’s work underneath it all with their own hidden agendas. The fact is that we do need to plan for the future. How we’re going to deal with global warming, contamination of the atmosphere, deforestation, overpopulation, etc. It has to be done before is too late. Overpopulation is going to be a delicate problem. Did you know that Uruguay has about the same population for last 30 years? Most European countries have the same problem, the European population doesn’t grow but the overall population grows because of immigration, mostly Muslim immigration. Muslims can have up to 4 wives at a time and often 9 or 10 children with each, do the math to figure how quickly Muslim population grows. Muslims do everything based on their god and religion so how you’re gonna tell them they need to slow down with their birth rate. I guess just one of the many challenges ahead.

Morell
  9/2/2015 15:44 EST

I agree Ed. I also think that if you move to another country then you should adopt the values and norms there.

I do not think anyone should start demanding special treatment or should be allowed different rules because of their faith.

crazyfarmer
  9/3/2015 15:30 EST

Contamination of the atmosphere and deforestation are real problems.

Global warming is a scam designed to get you to accept carbon taxes.

Carbon taxes, in addition to being another way to steal money form people, are designed to reduce the energy consumption of a country. Energy consumption is directly associated with things like GDP or economic output, in other words, prosperity. So by reducing energy consumption, you can bring about economic chaos, which allows you to ride to the rescue with your solution to the problem (one world government)

Overpopulation is also a lie. Some places are clearly overpopulated (India for example) but most of the planet isn't over-populated at all. 7 billion people are a little too difficult to control. Also, they'd like to get rid of certain pesky, difficult to control ethnic or religious groups. 200 million mindless obedient workers, world-wide, would be ideal.

We're also nowhere near resource depletion. And food or water shortages are caused by economic or political problems, not by any real shortage of resources.

The people pushing Agenda 21 are trying to create a one-world government. And that government isn't going to have anything to do with democracy or respect for the individual. It will be a totalitarian dictatorship, with fascist characteristics at the top, and communist characteristics at the bottom for us. Your life will be pre-planned. You'll be paid for your work in calories which you can use to buy rice or bugs. And when you cant meet your quota because of age or injury or attitude, you're disposed of. If you describe it this way to people, no sane person would accept it. But if you wrap it in warm fuzzy language about saving the planet or saving cute animals or saving the children, then people switch off their brains and line up behind it.

They're going to announce Agenda 2030 this month. (Along with a lot of other fun things in the US this month) It will be interesting to see how much of the warm fuzzy they strip away.

“"Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will pledge with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government."
- Henry Kissinger in an address to the Bilderberger meeting at Evian, France, May 21, 1992.

kimbo47
  9/4/2015 15:16 EST

AMEN! But you need to be careful you have a socialist president.

kimbo47
  9/4/2015 15:24 EST

Amen! well said. Unfortunately what Ed says is true and they are all over the world and their goal is to exterminate Christianity. UY has accepted many of them as refugees. You can't change their beliefs no matter what the laws say in any country. They follow the Koran to the letter and we all know what it says about Christians or anyone that does not follow their religion or is an infidel..

Wanderlustspirit
  9/4/2015 22:13 EST

1. MAINTAIN HUMANITY UNDER 500,000,000 IN PERPETUAL BALANCE WITH NATURE

Written in 8 current languages, 4 languages that are no longer used & astro-theology.

90% reduction in population

Read more here:
http://www.thegeorgiaguidestones.com/Message.htm

Then click "enter"

For those that refuse to wake up to the reality of what is occurring, all I can say is "Best of luck" manuevering a reality that you refuse to admit exists. If you can not see it & can not prepare, how do you possibly think you can navigate it when you missed all the "warning signs" & the window for preparing is permanently closed? Mass chaos, civil unrest, the basest behavior of humanity, food shortages & tyranny. Seriously Morrel & Carlitos, "best of luck"!

Wanderlustspirit
  9/4/2015 22:21 EST

The Pope will be declaring on Sept. 25 when he addresses the U.N. His support for UN Agenda 2030. Read it on the UN.'s website & it will conjure up rainbows, doves, butterflies, sunshine & lollipops with your rose-colored glasses.

Then put on your thinking hat & go beyond the superficial talking points & read this article as a catalyst. http://www.naturalnews.com/051058_2030_Agenda_United_Nations_global_enslavement.html

Time is short. There are those who will remain asleep & when jostled in an effort to alert them , will grow angry with the messenger & ignore the message to his/her own peril.

carlitos
  9/5/2015 06:42 EST

best of luck with what Wanderlustspirit ?

Morell
  9/5/2015 07:44 EST

Regarding Natural News from the RationalWiki.

NaturalNews.com (formerly Newstarget) is an anti-science conspiracy website founded by Mike Adams (self-labeled "The Health Ranger") which promotes numerous alternative medicines and assorted woo.[2] Even other quacks think it's a quack site.[3]
The site particularly specializes in vaccine denialism and woo,[4] AIDS/HIV denialism,[5] quack cancer treatments,[6] and conspiracy theories about "Big Pharma"[7] and modern medicine in toto.
Furthermore, Adams supports quantum woo, specifically quantum healing[8] and quantum consciousness.[9] NaturalNews advances a hard green position, even though the site also promotes global warming denialism.[10] To top it off, Adams promotes conspiracy theories about gun control.[11]
If you cite NaturalNews on any matter whatsoever, you are almost certainly wrong.

Placestogo6
  9/5/2015 09:15 EST

Morell,

It is the dumbest statement i ever heard. Take it from me : a mother of vaccine injured child..u have been brainwashed.

Morell
  9/5/2015 09:19 EST

You are entitled to an opinion which I do not share.

carlitos
  9/5/2015 09:33 EST

One of my best friends developed Síndrome de Guillain-Barré due to flu vaccination. Another folk here spent some time in coma for flu vaccination.

Morell
  9/5/2015 09:36 EST

I doubt that it wwas from a vaccine.

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/guillain-barre-syndrome/basics/definition/con-20025832

carlitos
  9/5/2015 09:38 EST

Between the big corporations that make the vaccines for money and the governments that are lobbied into buying anything coming from those corps and the few people that stand against all this crap/corp thing I feel like being a hostage. If vaccines are so good, why my friend is sick now. And please don't tell it is a collateral damage it is not for her.

carlitos
  9/5/2015 09:44 EST

Morell,

My new friend. I respect and appreciate your opinion. I am not trying to convince you, I stopped trying to convince people many years ago. I am trying to convince myself.

Enjoy this sunny and beautiful day because it is the only thing that matters today.

Morell
  9/5/2015 09:59 EST

I worked in a Neurological Rehab Centre and unfortunately bad things happen to good people for no reason.
I had a girl with Rett syndrome whose mother was convinced the doctors had damaged her as she was perfectly normal for the first two years or so.
It is a genetic disorder with a specific mutation and starts to show around 18 months, but her mother preferred to think someone else caused the problem.

Sorry about your friends.

nickspm
  9/5/2015 12:07 EST

Morell,

You seem to be a bit skeptical in regard to the dangers of vaccines.

That's entirely unnecessary.

The US government has paid out billions of dollars in damages to victims of vaccine injuries.

http://www.uscfc.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/opinions/CAMPBELL-SMITH.MOJABI-PROFFER.12.13.2012.pdf

ftp://ftp.publicdebt.treas.gov/dfi/tfmb/dfivi0815.pdf

Placestogo6
  9/5/2015 14:40 EST

Haha, so now u are going to tell me why my child got ill ? What a silly joke.. Or a sick joke ?... Pick a book in your spare time called "shot in the dark" , where every page is a story of a hurt child.. Like mine. May be then the shell may crack and u may start noticing the matrix we live in and aski ng some new questions.

Morell
  9/5/2015 15:27 EST

I know nothing about you or your child.

But to get this back to something about Uruguay, for those interested this is the info regarding vaccinations here.

Here is the first paragraph

Vaccination is one of the most effective interventions in public health. The primary objective is the eradication or elimination of infectious diseases preventable by vaccines available.

In Uruguay vaccines comprising the National Vaccination Program are free and compulsory for all inhabitants of the country.

For more details

http://www2.msp.gub.uy/vacunas/index.html
.

crazyfarmer
  9/5/2015 17:04 EST

Morell, no anti-vaxer denies that the idea of a vaccine is bad, or that it's impossible to make a good vaccine, or that many lives were saved by vaccines in the past.

I think what most are saying is that there's zero trust for the health industry in the US to create, or the US government to police, the creation of a safe vaccine.

It's basically a cash cow. If they can make vaccines cheaper to the point where they're unsafe, who cares? It's more profit for big pharma. It's impossible for those taking the vaccines to sue because the vaccine companies have liability protection by law.

And if people get sick from the vaccines, great! More money for drugs to treat their illness!

There's other evidence that suggests that it's even more sinister than this. But even if it stopped here, this would be sufficient reason to question whether it's a good idea to take a vaccine or give one to your child.

It's reasonable for anyone to read the list of known side effects and complications listed on the insert included with every vaccine, and weigh the risks.

Westwood
  9/5/2015 18:53 EST

The snake oil salesmen like Alex Jones and Glenn Beck are the main online purveyors of the conspiracy theories like Jade Helm , Agenda 21. Vaccine injury, Bilderberg meeting, Apocalyptic doomsday predictions, World war, Civil-race war, and etc.
These guys do not have the necessary credentials on the topics and thus their arguments are meritless and exposed as such by many websites online.
I don’t want to sound like a snob, but Alex Jones is limited with only a degree from Austin Community College and the other guy only high-school diploma.
Simply put, I wouldn’t make important personal decisions based on the queasy verbal salad served by these guys.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch9gQ9JOe3Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fBYiwVoon0

PBS Frontline had a coverage to debunk the myth about vacinne injury.
(youtube keyword: FRONTLINE | The Vaccine War | PBS)

End of story!

nickspm
  9/5/2015 20:35 EST

That's quite alright. If necessary, I'll take the shots.

Vaccine damage can be reversed with various alternative therapies: Chelation, Ozone Therapy, and Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy.

EdNewYorkCity
  9/5/2015 23:57 EST

The argument on vaccines seems pointless to me. I grew up in Uruguay and got all the vaccinations I could get and not only never had any problems with them but I never heard or seen anyone being affected by them. Since they are free for the most part I don’t think there’s a mega business behind them. If the vaccines can prevent millions of people from getting sick and a few of them get an adverse reaction (due to allergies or any other reason) the odds are still overwhelmingly in favor of vaccines.
Specifically talking about expats, you’re only required to take one vaccine ( tetanus ) and if you don’t want to take it all you need is a doctor’s letter with any excuse not to take it.

kimbo47
  9/6/2015 01:00 EST

Great suggestion Crazy! As long as you don't give the law abiding citizen the support to defend themselves they will just be sitting ducks waiting to be robbed helplessly and the armed criminal know this!
That is why they break in homes and kill taxi drivers with such confidence.

kimbo47
  9/6/2015 01:33 EST

Great link Morell. Its also interesting to note from the link that in the first semester of 2015 there were 154 murders, 12 more than in 2014 and 15 more than 2013 for the same period. This could be a new historical record.
Its also interesting to note that there was a new rise in the homicides not resolved (46%) while in 2011 there were only 20%.

nickspm
  9/6/2015 14:41 EST

On the upside, 43% of the homicides seem to be criminals murdering other criminals.

MarGut
  9/8/2015 09:06 EST

We live in Punta del este, and we feel very safe, sometimes we foget to lock the doors. We have a new Police chief and he's doing a great job!!, unfortunately Montevideo is a bigger city, with more crime , harder to handle but not impossible, I hope they don't let it get worse

crazyfarmer
  9/8/2015 10:24 EST

>The snake oil salesmen like Alex Jones and Glenn Beck

These guys are totally different in their approach and effectiveness. I wouldn't put them in the same category at all. Glenn Beck sold out. Alex Jones didn't.

>are the main online purveyors of the conspiracy theories like
>Jade Helm , Agenda 21. Vaccine injury, Bilderberg meeting,

These aren't conspiracy theories. They're facts reported by the mainstream media. The internet is full of information released by "official sources" concerning these things. The "conspiracy theorists" simply question to what extent the official sources are lying or withholding information.

>Apocalyptic doomsday predictions, World war, Civil-race war,
>and etc.

There are many respected people, people with "respectable credentials" who are very concerned about these things.

>These guys do not have the necessary credentials on the topics
>and thus their arguments are meritless

It's amazing how a person can only be intelligent and correct once they've been through an indoctrination process by a respected institution, the same institutions that have been wrong again and again over the years about a great many things.

You realize that many great inventors, writers, and philosophers over the years had no formal education, right?

It's easy to dismiss an idea you don't like with an ad hominem attack.

>and exposed as such by many websites online.

There's just as many sites that say something is true as say something is not true. Perhaps the best way to approach these things with with an open mind and critical thinking rather than just choosing to believe a website that happens to match your pre-selected conclusion.

>I don’t want to sound like a snob,

too late

>but Alex Jones is limited with only a degree from Austin
>Community College and the other guy only high-school diploma.

You realize they get their information from all kinds of people with all kinds of credentials, right? They interview doctors, lawyers, economists, historians, and former and current high ranking military people.

It's called journalism. If a dumb blonde from CNN questions a famous economist who says everything is great, everyone takes the word of the economist seriously and ignores the reporter. If Alex Jones questions a famous economist who says we're about to have an economic collapse, everyone ignores the famous economist and attacks Alex Jones. This should tell you that something is seriously wrong with journalism in the US.

>Simply put, I wouldn’t make important personal decisions based
>on the queasy verbal salad served by these guys.

But of course, the mainstream media would never lie to you, right? Even though 96% of the news outlets are owned by six mega corporations who also exert a huge influence over the government?

>PBS Frontline had a coverage to debunk the myth about vacinne
>injury.

PBS is controlled leftist propaganda.

>End of story!

Not really. You've already decided what you believe. And now you're just looking for anyone who will agree with you so you can pretend your world will go on just fine. This kind of thinking is deadly.

kimbo47
  9/8/2015 14:32 EST

What a waste of talent! Most of us know what is going on in the US.
How about devoting some of that talent and helping us newbies out by analyzing UY with all its good and bad.

Westwood
  9/8/2015 20:29 EST

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_Clark
Sally Clark was wrongfully convicted and then died prematurely, not because the judge lacked intelligence, but rather because not educated on a basic statistical concept.
And yet, “There are 175 accredited law schools in the United States. Only one of these schools requires a basic course in statistics or research methods.”
There is definitely a cult of ignorance going in this world.
The situation scares me more than Agenda 21, Jade Helm, and all the other doomsday scenarios combined.
Most (93%) members of the National Academy of Sciences, or the smartest people in US, do not believe in God.
That is so not because they are arrogant, but rather they are humble.

texasmg
  9/9/2015 10:25 EST

Touche CrazyFarmer!

Many people are afraid to face reality when it will change their paradigm and what they WANT to believe. As you said, these "conspiracy theories" are finally causing light to be shed on the few, all thanks to the freedom of the internet which has enabled the average Joe Six Pack to end run the scripted media outlets. Those who ignorantly criticize knowledge most likely still believe that Oswald had it in for Kennedy!
Maybe spend some time and watch this with a keen eye for historic fact and an open mind and they may just become enlightened to the ways of the world!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Qt6a-vaNM

On a separate note, I(and my two jars of Dulce de Leche) just returned from my trip to Uruguay and was very impressed with the country and it's people and look forward to returning in the very near future! Nearly all of the positive columns were checked, which says a lot for any country, no matter the continent.

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