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Blcamerican53
2/16/2016 22:02 EST

Is 1million peso enough to start in uraquay my daughtee 28 n her daughter 6 so 3 females..I am not looking for some fancy place more like clean living around natives an find work any help would be great an I am black american female 53 living in state.

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carlitos
2/17/2016 05:30 EST

Blcamerican53 In my opinion your email is pretty weird. But to answer your question, No, 1 million pesos is change to buy property. You need at least 10 times that amount.

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Morell
2/17/2016 06:31 EST

Carlitos is right, but you could rent something - you would probably need to put a five month deposit plus pay a month's rent to a realtor for finding it. That would be $3 - 5,000US in total if you could find a rental under $800 US a month.

Plus you would need to buy all the appliances and furniture as most rentals have nothing in them.
Adding in the airfares, I would think $10,000 US would be spent just on these three things for all of you.

Then your rent and living expenses would be close to $2,000US for the three of you each month so your money would last less than a year - approximately.

Unless you speak fluent Spanish, your chances of working here are quite slim. There are many locals who speak good enough English to take many of the jobs that require English.

Uruguay is one of the most expensive countries in S. America, most of the N. American expats live on their foreign pensions . The younger expats are mostly from nearby countries so speak Spanish and find it easier to find work.

My figures are just a rough guess, there are places that give costs such as Numbeo you might want to look at.

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mjferriesmcgrew
2/17/2016 10:38 EST

I GUESS I AM GOING TO COME OUT OF THE CLOSET ON THIS ONE? i am so tired of morrell and carlitos ( and dont even get me started about kimbo who doesnt even live in uruguay ) giving advice to people that may or may not be accurate. i usually write the people privately cuz i have a very ( borderline ) stressful existance with my business here in uruguay, so just need the tranquilo when i take playtime on the computer. THAT SAID, I COULD NOT AGREE WITH YOU LESS, guys, WHEN YOU TELL PEOPLE THEY CANT LIVE IN URUGUAY CHEAPLY. As i have blogged before, i am NOT basing my info. on living in Montevideo, or the beach towns.... big cities and oceanside places are expensive places to live all over the world. so, black american, please be assured that you, your daughter and your granddaughter CAN find interior towns in Uruguay where the cost of living will be cheaper than just about anyplace in the U.S. ( i have lived in 10 different states in the U.s. in my 61 years of the planet, and several countries, so i am basing this on my experience ). You can rent a nice big place , out in the coutnry, with enough place to put in a garden , for under 8k pesos per mo. ( it will need things done to it, yes, it will need appliances, i havent lived in too many places in the u.s. that didnt need some TLC either ) You can get used appliances and all other items you need at the remate auctions, mercado libre ( like ebay ), or thrift shops ( there arent alot of them ). also the expats have an internet site to sell used items. i dont speak spanish very well, but have few problems getting across my needs/ wants. The buses are cheap and safe, and the produce is fresh and very inexpensive. What gets expensive is any time you have to have something that is NOT made, grown, or built/fixed in Uruguay. I have lived in Uruguay for 15 mos. now, and everyday it just keeps getting better and better. I started with a 5k peso a month studio apt., but now i live in my business ( a hostel ). I have seen the utils. do up, and the value of the peso go down ( by quite a bit ) in my time here. So you still have to be very careful with your money to live here . But, if you are frugal, and realize that , as a foreigner you have to be very adaptable, in numerous ways, this might be just the place you are looking for. And, yes, finding a job, and finding cheap air fares, ARE difficult. I have some ideas , which i am willing to share if you write to me, about things an expat who isnt old enough to retire yet, could do here. Morrell, i think, is the one who mentioned making hot sauce and selling it to ex pats. well, used baby stuff is sorely needed in this small town. There is a big baby boom in Minas. The feria gets 50 to 100 pesos for one little 2nd hand outfit. Stuff a person could easily buy at yard sales in southern calif., where i lived last, for under 25 cents each. I would research starting a business here, and if you need items to sell , figure out a way to bring them with you when you come. I dont think customs would stop a suitcase full of used baby clothes, even though they might want to tax a load of new stuff. I actually had an ex pat in this area tell me that he does NOT want more Americans moving here, that he is worried it will make all the prices go up and it will get ruined here " like Costa Rica". I think this 'I got mine, now lets slam the gate " attitude is not OK. As ex pats, writing on an ex pat blog, that is the first thing that alot of folks read, that are looking to make the same scary jump that those of us who live here have made, i feel we owe it to these potential newbies to be encouraging and supportive. I know , some people might argue that giving them FACTS is more supportive. Ok, then, tell them what you pay, but also add that you arent willing to live without air conditioning, or a car, or other creature comforts, so they can make up their own minds what their costs are going to be. I have a feeling that some of the people who write in are living on only 1000. u.s. a month back in the u.s., which is plenty of money , where i am in uruguay, anyway!!!!!!!

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carlitos
2/17/2016 11:13 EST

mjferriesmcgrew while you are sick of me I am not sick of you. I respect you and your opinion. Now lets see what mrs black is going to say and do. She has 30k and they are 3 and they need to work, ok what else did she say? did she mention she wants to rent a cheap house, No she did not. Anyhow what you just is is feasible but for a minority of people, I lived 3 years on a 300bucks per month budget and we are 2 and 6 pets. Though time I would say.
is your expat friend that said to close the door in this forum?

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Morell
2/17/2016 11:40 EST

Like Carlitos, I made some assumptions. If they need to work, they are likely to find very little available in a small town like MInas especially if they do not speak Spanish, perhaps they do. But wages will be lower there too than in Montevideo. I know someone who worked in Tacuarembo and factories there were paying $3.00 US an hour and it was considered a good wage.

Many Uruguayans live and work in Montevideo so they would probably have more luck finding something there, at least to start with.

I would rather have them budget more than they need than have them come here thinking it is cheap and be disappointed. I know several people who have had to leave - not having sufficient income from pensions etc. or not being able to find a job are the usual reasons.
On the Expat Facebook group, someone asked what is the usual rate per hour to pay a cleaning lady, the answer was 120 to 160 pesos per hour. This works out to under $200 US a week for 40 hours. Many jobs pay like this if you don't have specific skills. Maybe they do.

I think if I had a limited budget, ( they did not say they did) I would look at some other countries first such as Ecuador, Columbia, Honduras, Mexico etc. where money should go much further.

Moving to another country just to scrape by is not at the top of my list.

BTW, I do not have air conditioning!

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maxbjorkstrom
2/17/2016 16:43 EST

Babies are popular here, specially in rural areas, the more children you have, the more money and help you get from social services. Baby clothes is a good business, you would have to bring quite alot more than a suitcase if you wanted to live of it though. I am probably only making noise on the thread but I also think more information is needed in order for the forum followers to respond the question in a more accurate way.

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Morell
2/17/2016 17:03 EST

Yes, there was a story in the paper some months ago about people smuggling clothes from Argentina and being arrested. People here are very protective of their businesses and do not take kindly to people trying to get around the regulations.

http://www.elpais.com.uy/informacion/policia-logra-desarticular-red-contrabandistas.html

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GypsyTrue
2/18/2016 10:50 EST

Please explain how asking a question is deemed 'weird'? If you do not know then you ask. This forum is for 'expats' am I correct? Are you not an expat? I'm sure there were many questions you had prior to moving am I right? I'm fairly certain.

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GypsyTrue
2/18/2016 10:59 EST

I was just passing through and your post was very informative to me. Thank you.

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Blcamerican53
2/18/2016 13:06 EST

I dont think my post is weird an being black I get different responds to me relocating so I will tell you what I think..1 million peso to start with a family of 3 is what I was asking..I dont want to buy any land or live by the beach or have the high life for that I could stay here in northern va paying 2000 a month for rent...
I do not want to put all my savings into peso at this time so I said 1million...I have alittle more than 150 thousand in usd plus 1500 amonth in pension plus I like to teach english an if social security doesnt go bankrupt I will have that in 15yrs..I just dont want to deplete my savings but find ways to support myself on top of this..so I would like to hear from ppl who know what its like to just live without all the xtras thank you

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Blcamerican53
2/18/2016 13:17 EST

Thank you soooo much I will get in contact with you when I know when im coming my email is amerika68@hotmail.com

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kimbo47
2/19/2016 00:27 EST

Blcamerican53
>I could stay here in northern va paying 2000 a month for rent...<
>so I would like to hear from ppl who know what its like to just live without all the xtras thank you<
I find the above unusual asking to hear from people that know how to live frugally. I don't know what neighborhood you live in but I believe I live middle middle class in the middle of a small US city in a 5 br 3 bath 1800 sq feet home with central A/C washer/ dryer/ diswasher / 30 gals water heater/ microwave/hood /garbage disposal/water filter and ceramic range and only pay $1600/mo rent and can walk to the beach 7 blocks away. My friend and his wife and child live in a 2 BR apt. and pay only $750/mo and he does not live frugally.

So if you are looking to move just to drop your cost of living you may just need to move to a different state not country and UY as Morell posted is the most expensive country in SA.

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Blcamerican53
2/20/2016 03:20 EST

Kimbo...could you not comment to me for I care not to read anything you write.. Thank you

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kimbo47
2/20/2016 18:08 EST

Blcamerican53
I was trying to help. Just don't read what you don't want to.

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