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carlitos
2/20/2016 11:03 EST

anyone can point reliable sources for news regarding the aledged land invasion of siria by nato, turkey and the saudies?

thanks

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RufusG
2/20/2016 19:36 EST

At this point I think this is mostly the Turks and KSA making a lot of noise. Some Saudi planes have moved to Turkey. Turkey has shelled some Kurds in Syria. No land invasion of Syria yet. Pretty sure NATO will be telling Erdogan of Turkey to STFU as they have no desire to fight the Russians at this time.

Link to pro-Russian analysis here:
http://thesaker.is/week-nineteen-of-the-russian-intervention-in-syria-would-russia-use-nukes-to-defend-khmeimim/

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carlitos
2/20/2016 20:34 EST

RufusG - thank you so much for the link.

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crazyfarmer
2/20/2016 21:23 EST

>anyone can point reliable sources for
>news regarding the aledged land
>invasion of siria by nato, turkey and the
>saudies?

Do a google search for "operation northern thunder".

Not sure what to make of it. Frequently, these drills are just saber rattling and politics. But if you wanted to mass troops on the border ahead of an invasion, this is how you would try to hide what you're doing.

In the US, when Iran, Russia, or China did some small military drill, it was all over the news. But the largest military drill in the history of the middle east including 350,000 soldiers, 20,000 tanks, 4500 airplanes, and 450 helicopters from 20+ countries, and the news in the US is almost totally silent.

WW3 is a matter of time. It could start this way. Or it could be a complete surprise.

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crazyfarmer
2/20/2016 22:12 EST

>At this point I think this is mostly the
>Turks and KSA making a lot of noise. >Turkey has shelled some Kurds in
>Syria.

The Turks never miss an opportunity to kill Kurds, even if it annoys other NATO members.

At the end of WW3, we'll also see the creation of Kurdistan (oil). To do this, they'll have to carve chunks out of Iraq, Syria, and Turkey. Turkey knows this and of course hates the idea. Iraq and soon Syria won't have any say in the matter.

>Some Saudi planes have moved to
>Turkey. No land invasion of
>Syria yet. Pretty sure NATO will be
>telling Erdogan of Turkey to STFU
>as they have no desire to fight the
>Russians at this time.

Really? Because the people in control of NATO and the US want WW3. The US is supposed to play the role of bad guy this time, and lose. It's why Obama has been weakening the military and leaving Alaska vulnerable to invasion, and why the pentagon hates him so much.

They also want Syria and Iran taken out, and Russia neutralized. Obama is under huge pressure to advance the Syria->Iran->WW3 agenda. But he's been outmaneuvered by Putin again and again. Sooner or later, they'll get fed up (or make a mistake) and just jump straight to WW3.

The nazi-style police state in the US is supposed to be in place before WW3 also because the American people would never willingly go along with WW3. If you had a false flag, you could use that to take all the guns, usher in the police state, AND blame it on the people you want the US to fight so that you have a politically useful way to start the war.

If Saudi and Turkey invade, I think this is what will happen:

1. Saudi and Turkey invade.
2. Russia begins shooting down Turkish (et al) planes trying to bomb Assad's army.
3. Turkey begins shooting down Russian planes.
4. The rest of NATO is drawn in. Iran invades Afghanistan where the Americans there either retreat or (more likely) are abandoned by their own military.
5. Russia begins to lose the air war for Syria (or thinks they will from the beginning) and...
6. Russia expands the war to a naval war.
7. Russia loses the naval war, but not before taking out between one and three American air craft carriers, half a dozen subs, and perhaps a dozen surface ships.
8. China probably enters the war. They'll take out another couple US aircraft carriers in the Pacific, but lose their entire navy in 24 hours. They wipe out the base at okinawa, and invade both Taiwan (succeed) and the Philippines (get bogged down). North Korea invades South Korea and wins. Japan enters the war and gets wiped out by China, but not without the world discovering that Japan had nukes all along.

At step 2, Israel panics. If you were Israel, would you believe that a 350,000 soldier/20,000 tank all arab army marching southwest toward Damascus would stop at Damascus practically within sight of the Golan Heights? I don't think Israel would permit that. I think Israel will be the first to use tactical nukes against this army. But I bet they make it look like Russia did it. Russia will say the Israelis did it and have real proof, but no one will believe them in the US. This would give the US the political cover to use nukes against Russia. Russia would have little choice but to expand the conflict world-wide to try to get the US to back down, which of course they won't. The US would respond with nukes in Ukraine at Sevastopol. Then from there it would escalate out of control to full scale nuclear war.

I can see it going from the first tactical nuke to a complete nuclear exchange in less than 48 hours. It might even go much faster than that. The first real news you might get here is that cities in US have been vaporized.

I expect the US to be completely reduced to a pile ashes in the coming war. (Russia will lose some cities but survive the war) This will piss off China like you wouldn't believe because they're supposed to get the natural resources in the US. But the US will be uninhabitable.

The real winner of WW3 will be Israel. I expect them to annex Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Iraq up to the Euphrates, 1/3 of Saudi Arabia, and 1/3 of Egypt. I also expect Damascus to be reduced to ashes over night.

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kimbo47
2/22/2016 02:05 EST

SCARY! Hope you are wrong.

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crazyfarmer
2/22/2016 16:22 EST

>SCARY! Hope you are wrong.

Me too.

It probably won't play out the way I describe. But I'd expect something very similar to this.

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