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seekernz
  2/21/2015 00:28 EST

Please note This is not a bit of mischief!
.I,m being asked by folk in an outlying town if I can help with the removal of a troublesome spirit that’s haunted them for many years. The spirit is clad in a uniform showing insignia suggesting para troop, an African American. Ive got to give these folk an ear, they believe strongly in such stuff, im open to the possibility of an unrecoverd body.
I appreciate that a ghost hunt is not gonna happen, but have spoken to the folk and asked that they gather any information that they have that might indicate that there is in fact an unrecovered mia in the area. Got a somewhat garbled story that dogtags had been found and passed on to nva , and that graves had been disturbed but cant make sense of the details. I,ll keep at it.
Is there some way that I can check if there are in fact mia,s in a particular area?
What agencies in US / Vietnam should I contact should I find some sound evidence of unrecovered remains.

Richard Shields.
Khan Hoa province ,Vietnam

bluenz
  2/21/2015 00:38 EST

Only 1649 still missing, here is one from 1961 in that area.
December 6 Gorton, Thomas F Captain USAF 1st Air Commando Squadron South Vietnam, Kien Hoa Province Navigator of RB-26L #44-35782, shot down on a photo-reconnaissance mission, bodies of two other crewmen recovered[19] Killed in action, body not recovered[1]

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MarkinNam
  2/21/2015 01:31 EST

Hi Seeker possibely the best guy would be stumpy on the expat-blog forum, he is the Laos expert http://www.expat-blog.com/forum/profile.php?id=52020&lang=en

MarkinNam
  2/21/2015 02:18 EST

sorry Seeker, Stumpy is not the man , he recommends you contact the embassy

swebb
  2/23/2015 04:42 EST

Intrigued by this story. Is this often the way mia's are found? How have others been found? Any recently?

bluenz
  2/23/2015 04:56 EST

How about this guy, in 2013.

A Canadian documentarian says in a new film that an elderly man he found living in a remote Vietnamese village is former U.S. Army Green Beret Sgt. John Hartley Robertson, who was presumed dead 44 years ago. According to The Independent, filmmaker Michael Jorgensen claims that the man found in a village in South Vietnam can’t remember the English language or the names of his wife and children, but that he is the U.S. veteran whose helicopter was shot down in 1968.

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bluenz
  2/23/2015 05:02 EST

oops I didn't read the rest of that story,
UPDATE: The man claiming to be John Hartley Robertson has been exposed as a fraud. According to the Independent, the impostor’s story was “shattered” Wednesday, when a 2009 memo surfaced from the Defense Prisoner of War Missing Personnel Office saying “that the found man was in fact a fraudster who the US government performed DNA tests on 20 years ago and whose story had been fully debunked as an attempt to exploit Vietnam’s Missing in Action and Prisoner of War groups and claim military back-pay.”
Even his sister believed it was him??? But she was 80 yrs old!!!!

bluenz
  2/23/2015 05:06 EST

Still fining them in Cambodia 2014

Bodies of three American servicemen found in Cambodia more than 40 years after the end of the Vietnam War
Three unidentified remains have been found in the Kampong Cham province in eastern Cambodia
Being flown back to Hawaii for DNA testing
Up to 90 American servicemen were listed as missing in action in Cambodia at the end of the Vietnam War
By DAILY MAIL REPORTER
PUBLISHED: 13:27 GMT, 2 April 2014 | UPDATED: 14:06 GMT, 8 April 2014

ralphnhatrang
  2/23/2015 11:06 EST

Bluenz,
That story has been around for years. HE IS A FAKE, and Vietnamese to boot.
see:
http://www.stripes.com/news/pacific/dna-test-proves-vietnam-man-is-not-missing-army-sergeant-1.282643
and
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/vietnam-fraud-forgotten-veteran-john-hartley-exposed-463271

bluenz
  2/23/2015 19:20 EST

You too made the mistake of not reading everything. Although I didn't see any mention of him being a VN in my article, thanks for the info.

stumpy
  2/23/2015 21:53 EST

It is not a simple process. In all instances of MIA in Vietnam you are advised as I have been, to contact the US embassy in Hanoi vietnam.usembassy.gov They have access to an investigation team, who work in conjunction with the Vietnamese Govt who will check it out.
The more information you can give them like GPS location, dates from villagers, regarding the graves and any hard evidence will help greatly. There is no way an individual can investigate it.

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voyager41
  2/27/2015 05:16 EST

What you should do is call the US Embassy in Hanoi, and tell them you may have local information regarding a possible MIA in the Nha Trang area. They will put you in touch with the right officials in the Embassy.

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