Whitedove
3/18/2017 20:07 EST
Hello, all!
I am looking into relocating to the Jinotega area and would like to get some feedback on a few questions. I am a single, disabled female (walk with a walker) and am wondering if this would pose a challenge for me. Also, I need a cooler climate and would like to know how warm it is in this area. Are there many expats in the region a little northeast of Jinotega? What is a good estimate on rental rates?
Thanks! :)
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mate31658649
3/18/2017 22:21 EST
I apologize if I sound negative, but walking with a walker in Nicaragua may be a serious challenge. Many sidewalks are uneven and many streets are unpaved. Come down for a couple of weeks and gauge for yourself.
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elduendegrande
3/19/2017 19:15 EST
For a mountain town jinotega is level and the weather is cool by tropical standards. You can do a search online to see average temps for many towns, and jinotega will be among the coolest, with sweaters advised in the winter.
Living in the countryside is a challenge for the young and healthy, not a great option for elders living alone.
Nicas tend to be very courteous to strangers and the aged, so you will get some courtesies and help you might not be expecting.
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waltermboyleses
3/28/2017 08:39 EST
Driving through we thought Jinotega looked nice - we plan to return as tourists.
Annual mean temp for the state (departamento) is 20 deg C (5 states have 20 deg - only 1 has 18, Matagalpa.).
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elduendegrande
3/30/2017 21:29 EST
Met a guy who bought a home in Jinotega and a screaming church from Hell built right next to him. He was not happy.
Acreage, ear muffs, and high walls are good in most places.
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ralphjones738
4/1/2017 12:14 EST
I do not think that Jinotega would work for you for many reasons. There is a expat in Jinotega that uses a walker and gets teased by the kids here because he can not chase them off. The hospital and medical treatment are inferior to what you may be accustomed to. Jinotega has no real expat community, Matagalpa tends to be the area that most expats are drawn to in the north. It is a more up to date town with more conveniences. Temperatures here average in the mid to high 80's during the day and can drop to as low as 60 at night.
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trudywilliams0411
4/1/2017 14:58 EST
My husband uses a walker so we would need some well worn paths. I can chase the kids off. What is the population cuz we r looking for a smaller place to live among the Nicaraguans. Is it jungle? Is it coffee plantations? Is it developed?
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elduendegrande
4/1/2017 16:48 EST
They are both cloud forest, coffee and veggie country,
Check the population figures, but realize a Nic town of let's say 100,000 people is not a town of 100,000. It is more like a town or 10-20,000 surrounded by 80-90, 000 in shacks and dirt roads, etc.
Shopping, "culture" medical care, etc, are based on the lower figures.
The draw of the mountain towns is the climate, it is not as nasty as the lowlands.
Go visit, as a couple you will be better insulated from the local culture and may find things to do that interest you.
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trudywilliams0411
4/1/2017 21:51 EST
Matagalpa is whete u have settled? The temps sound better than in central Texas. R there lakes nearby? About how big is the expat community? Thank u for your time and trouble orienting us in the best places to live. How about overlooking the Pacific coast or is that all lowlands? Nicaragua appeals to me because it's not Highly populated and is still not all touristy. We like the amenities but they r not as important as finding a place that is still unspoiled. My name isTrudy Williams and my husband is Bob. I am in my mid 60s and he is 81. We r looking for a place to retire whete we can still volunteer and have some adventure.
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waltermboyleses
4/2/2017 08:32 EST
Good morning from a relocated Texan,
Send me your e-mail address in a personal message, & I will gladly share my WELCOME WAGON (heavily oriented toward JinoTEPE, Carazo). JinoTEGA is about 3 hrs from MGA - if you have any health needs, that might be a little far from the center of our universe..
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elduendegrande
4/2/2017 11:15 EST
Tourism brings infrastructure and tourists aren't the only ones that "spoil" an area. The locals do it , too, all year round and 24/7.
Be that as you may, when you come visit, also check out the mountains south of managua. Relatively cool despite the elevation not being as high as matagalpa, closer to managua, closer to the beach. lotta folks gravitating that way.
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novato1953
4/2/2017 13:03 EST
That's an idea worth investigating for you, maybe. You'll likely need to be a curiosity-driven anthropologist or a self-sustaining recluse to be happy in Jinotega, sometimes for years if you're from a different part of Nicaragua and speak native Spanish, and I'd expect forever if you're from another country and don't come close. At least visit both areas before you rent a place. The small towns are pretty formal up there, lots of blood relationships -- a lot like rural Kentucky, but a bit warmer in the winter and so far without the oxycodone.
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johnchip
4/2/2017 15:10 EST
Your red flags: 1. need for expat community: you limit yourself to Managua, Granada, San Juan al Sur and maybe Leon. 2. "...we will need some well worn paths." In your dreams! All here are rocky roads, uneven cobble stone streets and a sidewalk, if you find one are 1-2' wide riddled with holes. 3. 'is it developed?' This is a war ravaged country, 2nd poorest in the hemisphere. The newest construction sits between two blocks of shacks, your neighbors have a 6th grade education at best. Most are unemployed.This will not change in your lifetime. 3. You never mention if you speak any Spanish. You will be hard pressed to find anyone who speaks any English. This country is not bilingual by any means. 4. The most disturbing comment you made is "...to find a place to live among the Nicaraguans." This rings of Xenophobia to me. a characteristic of outsiders who do not adapt as expats well. As it appears you have not yet been here, take a well planned vacation and explore Nicaragua and what it has and does not have to offer.
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elduendegrande
4/2/2017 16:39 EST
Great summary for all newbies, except the part about being war ravaged. The war scam is just an excuse for failure and milking foreign aid.
Here's a town that was war ravaged
http://www.pcf.city.hiroshima.jp/kids/KPSH_E/hiroshima_e/sadako_e/subcontents_e/images_e/15_1.jpg
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trudywilliams0411
4/2/2017 16:46 EST
Thank u for this info! We r to tying to decide between Nicaragua, Ecuador, or Panama. We r looking for something not touristy
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elduendegrande
4/5/2017 23:02 EST
Almost all of the tourists listed in the official numbers are missionaries, people visiting relatives, people transiting Nic just because it is there, and illegals heading north. In most places you will have to look hard to see a tourist on a given day,
there is a reason there are few tourists in most areas--poor infrastructure. You will have to live with that same infrastructure!
Visit, don't get bummed out by the apparently forst world foreigners on the calzada in Granada enjoying their sidewalk cafes, they are not typical of the country.
Come visit, look around but check out the other countries, too. If you are partial to the 21st century, give Panama a good look.
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trudywilliams0411
4/5/2017 23:16 EST
We have decided that Ecuador, especially Cotacachi, would fit our needs better and it's so lovely there. We r planning a trip in August for two weeks to check out Cotacachi, Ibarra, and Quito. If we really love it we will plan on moving in January 2018. Thank u for your help and info. Part of the reason we were thinking of Nicaragua was because of its lack of modernity and tourism.
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