as long as u keep the investment , u have the residential visa... If u sell , u have to reapply for residency.. even if u sell the initial investment and buy smth else.

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For the first two years, you cannot leave Ecuador for more than 90 days total within a one year period, not calendar year. So if you get residency in 2017, you can be gone August - October, but you couldn't leave again in Jan - March of 2018. You would need to wait until August because you used up the 90 days. Hope that makes sense. After two years, I believe you could be gone for up to 18 months.

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One thing you have to remember is that IF you want to obtain citizenship, rather than just residency, you can only be out of Ecuador 90 days in the first 3 years. Many people follow the residency timelines and forfeit their ability to obtain citizenship.

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Want to make sure I'm not misunderstanding things. Like hcrabtree, I thought I got to leave Ecuador for 90 days in each of the first two years of my permanent residence permit, AS LONG AS no 90 days were within a single year (365 day span).

Now, I see this post on gringo tree from Cuenca lawyer saying I'm only allowed a sum total of 90 days during those first two years.

There does seem to be agreement you need to spend at least one night in Ecuador every 18 months thereafter.

So, how many days does one get to leave the country in each of their first two years, and what are the nasty little details in the fine print?

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Hi all,

Just to confuse the issue of when and how long you can go out of the country during the first two years: The rules are in the process of being changed all around. I could tell you what I've heard (it seems that it will be more lenient) but until the rules are actually all completed, it wouldn't be wise for me to spread rumors. I do know that the new residence visas that are now being issued are only good for 21 months then you have to reapply for permanent residence. That may not be the same for the investor visa though.

I warned you that it would be more confusing.

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Kimac, do you already have your Visa, or will you be applying for one under the new laws?

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the only way to know the answer is to speak with a reliable attorney who specializes in visas and citizenships.. and or a facilitor who keeps up with these things.. anyone else.. whom you don't know is really not someone who you should be relying on. and things are in a state of flux... so just call and consult for free with a lawyer or facilitator who knows. the score.

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I got my permanent residency late 2016 and have use up about 30 days since. I was planning on burning another 30 before my one year anniversary. I'd presumably then have another 90 for year two. Or not, You see the problem.

As far as finding a 'wise' attorney. I did my visa by myself with mediocre Spanish, and I saw any number of 'wise' attorneys and facilitators over in Azogues who had nothing over me but their confidence. When things melted down in the lobby due to workers quitting (due to not being paid), those applicants that made it through did so through some combination of luck and excellent social skills. It seems to me an experience facilitator would have a big leg up over someone who just knew The Law. Law is important, but....

There is a point that the laws stand to change, which is always a given. This is certainly true for those just now entering the pipeline. At the moment, however, I'm concerned about how I should handle this 90 days business, which have apparently been operative for some time now.

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You are getting a lot of bad advice. you should go to the Ecuador immigration to get more accurate information. The 90 days is only to get citizenship, not for permanent residence. We used to be limited to 90 days a year for the first 2 years of permanent residence.
Now everything has changed and nothing is implemented.
Now you will have to get a 22 month temporary residence, you can apply for permanent. None are being issued because they are working out the details. Now you can be out of the country 180 days a year, so quite worrying about that, and stop talking to idiots. Lawyers in another country will not know how to navigate here. Even the ones here can not keep up with the constant changes. If you hire an attorney or a facilitator, ask for references, and check with them. Do not pay more then $1200 for a couple. On the investment visa, the value must be $25,000. Not what you pay, but what the Municipality values the property at, which may be much lower.
good luck.

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You have 59 days remaining during year two for travel outside Ecuador if you wish to maintain your status as a permanent resident.

If you are considering applying for dual citizenship after completing three years residency however, that 90 days total cannot be exceeded during your initial 3 years of residency in the country.

The date is from the anniversary date of your visa stamp.

Someone applying at this time would be applying first for extended temporary resident visa, which also has limitations on how many days one may be out of the country if one is considering on applying for a permanent resident visa after 2 years. That application can be started, in the future, after completing 21 months of the 24 month extended temporary resident visa.

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My wife and I are planning to come to Ecuador for six weeks in February/March 2018. Can we just arrive and be allowed in on a tourist visa? How long can we stay with just a tourist visa? The chance is we will return the following year for a longer period. What is the process for applying for a temporary resident visa? Do we apply after we have already arrived? How long is the temporary residency good for? Gracias.

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We'll presume that you are coming from North America.

First thing is, you won't be entering on a visa, per se. If you made no pre-arrangements, you can expect to receive 90 days in Ecuador on a T-3 tourist stamp at an EC airport. The stamp will be entered in your passport at no additional charge.

As for returning the following year...

If you used up all, or almost all, of your 90 days, you should wait until the following year's anniversary date before attempting to return on a new T-3 tourist stamp.

Come visit first, before attempting to get into the weeds of the actual-visa process, which complexities are being updated this year.

Common visas have historically been based on a minimum monthly income from Social Security or an investment of $25,000 in a bank certificate of deposit. A spouse or dependent(s) have been allowable on the primary visa with a modest adjustment in the financial requirements.

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Thanks for that. Hadn’t considered booking our return trip for a year after our first trip but that makes sense. I guess we could apply for the 180 day tourist visa back here in Canada before we come back as we hope to stay for four months the next time. Maybe longer (this working for a living thing is really starting to get old) – I read you can apply for a temporary residence visa from Ecuador. Anyone know if this is still correct, or likely to remain correct? One last, slightly off topic question – can a couple live comfortably in Ecuador with an income of $2500 month?

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Stevenlloyd,
$2,500 is plenty.
Most pension visas are applied for and received in Ecuador.
I agree, work sucks!

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Thanks. Is there a specific age one has to be to apply for a pension visa? Is 60 old enough or are you required to be 65 years old?

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Kimac,
My info came directly from our abogada that specializes in visas. Big HOWEVER is that the information in my post was from July 2016. Everything has/is changing with the new laws and could change again once they elect a new president.
I think it is worth a few dollars to consult with a facilitator before risking losing your hard-won residency.

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Stevenlloyd,
I many retired years before my 65 birthday. Hasn't been a problem here, Costa Rica, or Belize. So, with that in mind it appears age is not an issue. Money is the issue.

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you get a pension visa if you have a pension... bonafides from a work pension and or social security.. it could be disability at any age or it could be early retirment at 62 for some... but it has to be 800.00/month. or more.. to qualify. if you don't have a pension or ss... have 25,000 in a CD deposited to ecuador bank... not suggested as a first step.. but later investment cd can be changed to a real estate investment of 25k but it has to be value set by the municipio not the over priced value you may pay for a property.. so don't go and buy a property and let someone inflate the value or think that a purchase agreement for 25K for a property valued at 5k will do the trick.... they are on to that idea a few years back.. it is like californias overpaying for oregoniann real estate and the locals really dislike the inflation creep cause then they can't afford the property.

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Thanks Sage. I will have both a work pension (early retirement) and government pension (CPP) that will beat the threshold. Can you give me an idea of what serves as a bonafide?

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But of course you all realize this discussion is moot. It means nothing for anyone right now because you Cannot Apply For a permanent resident visa at this time.

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What about temporary residency?

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