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Brazil: Bauru, Brazil:
Kmort426......I do not know much about Bauru but I have lived in Brazil for over 7 years. Where are you from or currently living? Have you been go and lived in Brazil before? You may have and know exactly what your getting into. We did as we lived in Sao Paulo for 5 years the first time and then moved back to Brazil in 2015 to the NE Coast. But if you haven't lived in Brazil then I suggest maybe going to Bauru and staying there for about a month or so first.
Brazil: Retirement:
Joaozinh, I have had my Retirement Visa or CIE with no expiration for about 18 months and live in the NE of Brazil in Rio Grande Do Norte. You don't say where you are currently. I am from the USA and I had a Permanent Resident Visa that had just expired about a year before I applied for the retirement visa. You can go onto the Policia Federal website, locate applications for RNE. For retirement, Brazil requires that you be at least 60 years of age and have a retirement income of no less than $2,000.00 USD per month. We just assisted a couple from Norway obtain their retirement visa and it is not all that complicated. File out the paperwork on-line, set an appointment at your local Policia Federal that processes these requests and then go to he appointment. You will be directed to get 2 passport photos, copies of your passport with all pages, pay about R$264.00 for processing and make another appointment. At the 2nd appointment they will finger print you, take your photo, and take all paperwork and photos from you that you obtained after the 1st appointment...........REALLY IMPORTANT....At the 1st appointment asked the person processing you to print out a bileto for the R$264 payment as the website doesn't work when you ask it to provide the bileto. The bileto has he all important bar code on it so that you can make the payment at the bank.
Brazil: Also moving to floripa with my wife from ipatinga:
Turtletooned......I am an American living in Praia de Pipa, Brazil and moved here 18 months ago. More and more of the American airlines are restricting pet travel with very few allowing a pet to fly in the cabin. The rules are now this; temp at the department and arrival airport cannot exceed 85 degrees at either location in order for a pet to travel in cargo hold. I ended up using this company to take care of all pet paperwork and pet shipping from Chicago to Natal via Sao Paulo.....it wasn't cheap but Debbie did an outstanding job. We were delayed leaving MIA for Natal by 1 week. Debbie shipped my dog from Houston to LA where she kept him for the week and then shipped him back to Houston and then Brazil. Debbie talked the airline in shipping my dog to LA and back to Houston at no charge due to her frequent business. She took pix of Onyx and sent them several day each week and did an outstanding job in keeping me updated with photos and info. She also coordinated the Brazilian "catch" who picked up my dog and then transferred him to the airline that flew him from Sao Paulo to Natal. I, and Onyx had no problems with how they did their business. I'll save you all of the "are you sure you want to do this" type questions and only say that Brazil is not a country for old men. You must want to be here and have the capacity to deal with business, business concepts and lack of customer service like it was back in the 1960's! The internet is an issue here in Brazil as they lack infrastructure or companies that truly perform good customer service and grow their business. I got fiber optics 3 months ago at a cost of R$120 per month for 10 mb download. That is better than the 5mbps I had but having 10 mbps means that I am paying for 10 and maybe getting 3-7 and on weekends only getting .25-2 mbps. It's one of those frustrations you will have until you get adjusted and then thankful for the days that you can stream a Youtube video without constant buffering. Business wise...........you are on your own! This is not an easy country to do business in as the Chinese found out over the past few years. I do wish you luck with that one!
Debbie H. Rogers
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Brazil: Retiral Visa:
Dod37...........I am not sure where you currently live or if you have ever been to Brazil. My intent is not to sound sarcastic, but the country you want to move to (Brazil) is perhaps one of the most difficult countries to legally move to. Brazil is famously known for his bureaucratic bumbling and if you have not done your homework then you are about to find out just how difficult it is to move and then live here. Nothing is designed to be easy and Brazilians stopped complaining decades ago about the countless cartarios (Notaries), endless applications and paperwork. Is there a particular reason why you are choosing Brazil? The hoops that you mentioned is normal in the Visa application stages and it is only the beginning of the many hoops that you will have to jump through in order to get that Visa.
Brazil: process to get pension visa for Brazil:
Brazil16, I have also responded to your other question about bank accounts. I switched my expired Permanent Residence Visa to a retirement Visa that is marked "Indeterminada." I applied for it in 2014 and it was ready within 35 days. I picked it up when I moved here in July 2015. Depending on the rep that interviews you at the Federal Police, he may or may not ask to see proof of retirement income or pension bank deposits. But, a friend of mine reports that he applied at Houston Consulate and they demanded proof of retirement from the SOC. This guy is only 54 years old and obviously the Social Security Office could not give verification that he was retired. He says that they denied his application because the SOC couldn't verify he had retired even though he had a letter from his company stating he was retired and collecting a pension. Now I don't know how much that is true. What I would suggest is that you do the research, gather all of the paperwork and proof of retirement and then come to Brazil. During you stay book an appointment on-line with the Federal Police and make your application. If you do not speak Portuguese make sure you have someone there that can translate for you.
Brazil: Getting a Brazilian Bank Account:
Brazil16.......I don't have a lot of info about you such as; have you ever lived in Brazil? Brazil is a very complex country to do business and getting a bank account is not a simple as walking into the bank and an hour later you have an account. It may very well take several weeks. I retired in in July 2015 in the NE of Brazil. I do have a bank account which took several months to get....this included the ability to pay bills on line through the bank's on line website. I didn't have to present proof of retirement or a pension deposit into a Brazilian bank account. I didn't have the paperwork for both but the PF declined to review it. I think a good word of advice is that you DO NOT make deposits to a Brazilian bank. They have a tendency to move your money to different accounts whenever it suits them (without your knowledge or permission). With your money in a Brazilian account, the government can now tax it on certain withdrawals and they will. My pension is auto deposited into Bank of America and I withdrawal it through ATMs as needed. If you must deposit your money into a Brazilian Bank, only do it until after you get your Visa and then end the deposits and put it back into a US account with Brazilian ATM access. If you must deposit into a Brazil bank account, speak with your pension service. They maybe able to directly deposit into foreign bank. If not, Bank of America charges $45.00 to wire transfer any amount to a bank in Brazil. If you live in Brazil having a Brazilian bank account can help you a lot. Paying bills on-line is a lot easier than standing in line for hours at a bank, lottery ticket sales store, or other location.
Brazil: Brasilian moving back to Brasil with American husband:
fly4free50.......It depends on what you want, what lifestyle you can adjust to and what you may have in reserve. This last one is money to deal with plane tickets, hotels, general travel expenses, MOVING EXPENSES & despachante fees. If you are moving your household things you will find it expensive. My move from Dallas to Praia de Pipa, Brazil ran about $17,000.00 USD. That covered door to door moving expenses, the despachante fees to get my container through customs, the bribe to off load my container from the ship (the US Government calls this a facilitation fee) and the $900 USD to pay for the 30 days of storage fees when customs parks your trailer on the dock while deciding to inspect it or not. I'm sure you probably have been to Brazil enough to know where you want to live. Renting is all in the favor of the landlord to include any and all maintenance and repairs to THEIR building during normal wear and tear. Unless your willing to live somewhere less safe, rent is going to cost you R$900.00 to R$1,500 ($279 - $464 USD per month). If you live in the big city you may be able to rely on public transportation, otherwise there is a car expense. If you are retired you can apply for the over 60 years of age Permanent Residence Visa. Otherwise they will tax the content of your container. If you have pets you want to bring it can be expensive as well. Mine cost about $3,000.00 USD. American airlines stopped allowing pets in their cabins, all airlines have policies that if the temps are at 85 degrees or higher at either the departure or arrival airport then they cannot transport the pets in the cargo hold. Well, departure in the US summer puts you over that limit. Departure during the US winter is South America's Summer and in most places (Rio and Sao Paulo) that would be impossible. That left me the 3rd party pet relocated. They did a great job but it cost about $2,200 for them and another $800 or so for the bribe to the airport vet to allow the pet through with all documentation. I pay about $145.00 USD in electricity per month and we run the master bedroom air every night at 21c. Gas is averaged to about $200 over 5 months but it depends on how much you use the stove. You already know that the cell phone companies rape their citizens. My wife has Claro for about R$59.00 ($18.26 per month) for a phone, text, and data package. New car....$19,000 USD. Calling back to the States with any Brazilian cell companies is expensive and when you off your limits the phone shuts off. I kept t-mobile as they charge $0.20 cents per minutes for all calls and unlimited text and data usage. Health Insurance....Amil was bought out by United Heath several years ago. Last year we bought their full medical and for both of us, no deductible for $800 USD per month. But they just raised our monthly bill to $1,200 per month in July. We bought our villa in 2009 so we have no housing cost other than normal repairs. So in the final analysis....yes you can live in Brazil for $2,000.00 USD per month. But you must have reserves built to pay for the actual move and settling in.
Brazil: Moving Personal Belongings to Brazil:
I'm posting this information for those who, in the future, plan to move to Brazil with their belongings. After going through the experience......I would highly recommend that you don't ship anything. Here is a cost breakdown for packing up my house in Dallas, TX USA and moving it to Brazil. I'll try and keep my personal feelings of contempt out of this posting:
1) International moving company to pack up and ship my goods to Suape, Brazil: $15,000.00 USD
2) You must and will have a DESPACHANTE who will facilitate all required paperwork: $422.00 USD
3) Cartario (Notarization fees): $105.00 USD
4) You have already paid your moving fees but you must pay the Port charges to unload your container (a bribe or facilitation fee): $1,847.00 USD
5) Once your container arrives it may or may not get inspected. Ours was shipped on a retirement visa so it is rare that they will inspect it. But ours sat on the dock for 30 days (the dock company stated that the Brazilian Customs did not make a decision to inspect it for 30 days after it arrived). Storage charges are $30.00 USD per day for a total of: $900.00 USD.
Total cost for a container that was only 2/3 full: $18,274.00!
This is an actual cost as we have just completed the entire process. It was painful, it was highly bureaucratic, and you pay the fees in Brazil knowing you are bribing people. The process began in the 3rd week of July 2015 and our container is scheduled to arrive on November 18, 2015 at our home near Natal, Brazil. So you must be prepared, know the full cost, including the hidden cost such as storage in Brazil, the "facilitation" fees to unload you container. Brazil calls this fee an "Administration fee." This total expense break-out does not include what taxes you will pay on your belongings if you are not moving here on a retirement visa. If you have a company that you are working for move you here to Brazil then you are lucky as your company will make all of these payments for you. Other wise your belongings will be taxes at what ever rate the Brazilian government thinks that the items should be valued at.
Bottom Line: Save the shipping and buy new here in Brazil. With $18,000 USD you can buy a lot of stuff and skip the dirty work of working with crooked Brazilian businesses and officials.....Welcome to Brazil!
Brazil: taxes for US expats retiring in Brazil:
before dropping dead of sticker shock.....I would consult your CPA. I understand that any taxes paid to Brazil from your US income is equaled out. I have lived in Brazil (Sao Paulo for 5 yrs) and returned to the US in 2004. We are in the process of moving to Praia de Pipa, Brazil and will retire there starting June 30th.
Brazil: Retirement Visa Question:
I recently returned from 2-weeks in Praia da Pipa, Brazil and 1 of my tasks was to make my application for my retirement visa at the Natal Federal Police. I already had my permanent residence visa but it expired in 2013. Although I did not have any problems entering into Brazil with the expired visa, I was told that I needed to renew it. The Brazilian Houston Consulate advised me to apply for the retirement visa once I arrived as I am now 61 yoa. So, last week I drove up to the Federal Police and was given instructions on how to fill out the application on line. Here is what I had to do:
1) apply for the visa on line
2) print the completed visa application and return the next day.
3) I was referred to a business 1 block away from the Federal Police that took the required photos and signed off on a slip of paper given to me by the Federal Police.
4) Returned to Federal Police, handed in all paperwork.
5) Within 30 minutes I was called to get finger printed and photographed for the visa.
6) Was given a temporary paper visa and told that my retirement visa would be ready in 90 days.
the entire process for both days took only 3 hours of my time. Brazil seems to have updated it's technology and, at least in Natal were very helpful and friendly.
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