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Netherlands: where to live in amstelveen?:
Amstelveen is not a bad place to live. My family used to live there and we had a good time.
Amstelveen is so close to Amsterdam that you'll be able to get in the city-center within 20 minutes.
Netherlands: What the better place to live in Rotterdam?:
I would avoid living near Rotterdam completely. The people are very rude there and don't speak proper Dutch. My mom used to work in Rotterdam and had a horrible experience.
Netherlands: The 'Dark Side' to Integration:
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Hello,
Unfortunately your wife is right! Im an expat (non-american) here and been living in NL for about 3 years now. Just like what your wife said, i do feel this 'other' treatment once in a while (although i speak reasonable dutch-not perfect!). Of course theyare nice to me but what they do, will just about it, they will just be nice! They wont consider/put you in their circle of friends.
My husband friend who has an american girlfriend once told us, the dutch people are nice and friendly but they will not embrace you. Another friend of mine, been living here for about 10 years and speak good dutch. She still feels the same, the dutch will always have this 'wall' for the expats.
I think what will make a different is in which part of NL you live. If you live in Amsterdam, you dont really have a problem. You can always make friends with other expats. But if you live in a small town, you need more effort and patience to adjust it. It is more challenges in a small town because some dutch people will go on talking in dutch although they know one of the listeners dont speak dutch. This happens to my friend (a canadian). Actually surprisingly even some dutch people (my brother in law and his wife-both dutch) dont feel fit with people from other province of NL. They both have lived in Maastricht for 8 years with good job but in the end decided to move back to Leiden because of the people there. So can you imagine if even dutch people can feel like that, how about the expats who dont speak dutch ?
Personally I think you as her husband hold an important role to make her feel more comfortable living in NL. At least thats what I feel. I dont have many friends and my husband (a dutch) also not really a sociable person. But we both are so match, and he is the only reason I live here. The key is being understandble to each other and maybe in time when your wife feels down, you should be more understandable to her :)
I wish you both good luck and just think like this: if you both think you can not stand to live without each other, im very sure you both can get through this problem!
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This is totally true.
When you move out of the Economic/Political powerzone, (Amsterdam / Gooi Area) you will find many poor uneducated people with small-town values. I would compare Maastricht with the South in the United States. Close to Maastricht, there are gigantic trailer parks, and the people have traditionally been very poor. The are involved with Drugs trafficking, and they speak better German than Dutch.
I would not bother making friends with the idiots living in Maastricht. Why would you?
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