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Hotjazzman replied to the thread Customs/VAT Fees on the Hungary forum:
peddington initially posted:
Moving to Hungary but so far have very little information on CustomsVAT (vam) fees. I want to ship a few personal items such as, clothes, a multi system tv, dishes, inflatable boat to Hungary but so far the only thing I could find out that I have to pay 27% VAT (highest in the World incidentally). Something made me think twice, but I speak the lanquage and I inherited a home there. Anybody got recent experiences with customs. I only want to ship about 8 boxes! Any info would be appreciate it.
Hotjazzman replied on August 01, 2014 with:
Based on this church-paper only, no civil certificate posting. This is to inform of people who were born and/or married in Quebec, Canada PRIOR to 1994. Until then, there was no central civil recording of births, marriages (and deaths), but all such recordings of events were done by the various churches. Therefore, in Quebec to this day a church issued B/C is a LEGAL document. A Central registry of births, marriages and deaths have been set-up since, and and all church documents from the various churches have been sent in to be registered, BUT(!) and it is a BIG BUT, they're fraught with errors. Unfortunately, HU does not recognize any of the legal-in-Quebec Church docs, but requires the Quebec Central Registry issued document. If that happens to have an error (likely) then you've got a MAJOR problem. For a couple it took three years to straighten out their marriage cert., b/c the Central Registry Doc included a second given name (the Catholic Confirmation-ritual name) which was not in any other official document B/C, passport, etc). The original (pre-1994) Church issued marriage cert. did not have it, but that doc,. was not acceptable to the Hungarians. BTW: When they initially complained to the Quebec Central Registry that the marriage cert is screwed up., they screwed it up even further; they took out the grooms second name - that was OK, but in addition(!) they deleted the bride's maiden surname, and put in her married (the groom's) surname instead. In a way it was hilarious - like say, (Miss) A. Dingbat marrying (Mr) B. Dingbat... So if you're a Quebecois and planning to come to the HU for a longer stay - which needs god knows what kinds of paperwork, keep these caveats in mind...
Hotjazzman replied on August 01, 2014 with:
You have conveniently forgot, that if the current regime would not have enacted the outside-of-Hungary ethnic Hungarians' (Hungarian ancestry) Hungarian-citizenship right, your father would not have had even the chance(!) to get Hungarian citizenship - even if his papers would have been perfect, correct and peachy. You should remember how the previous (socialist) regime originally shot this proposal down in the Parliament and killed it in its bud. You, instead of being grateful for this new law to help tens of thousands of external Hungarians to acquire Hungarian citizenship, you, like a petulant child, bitch and moan, that they did not bend the rules for documentation in your father's favor just b/c he "wanted" citizenship and how evil of them to do so. Talking about ingrate ungrateful self-centered egomania... The process, as benign it is, has RULES. If you cannot meet them, tough. In essence it is a FAVOR by Hungary to ethnic (and eligible) Hungarians, and NOT a God-given, EU, USA, UN, etc., mandated RIGHT. Got it?
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peddington replied to the thread THREE THINKS YOU WISH YOU WOULD OF KNOWN! on the Hungary forum:
peddington initially posted:
I saw an old post by the above title so I figured I give you the TREE THINGS I WISH I WOULD OF KNOWN ABOUT HUNGARY! 1. The burocracy is unbelievable. Hungary was way ahead of Romania during the Cold War. It is unbelievebla that things can be handeled more expediently there than in Hungary. You will be pulling your hair out! 2. The VAT/Sales Tax is highest in the World 27%. Customs on electronics is 30% if you crazy enough to bring it in the country. 3. The Police Force for the most part is INCOMPETENT. While there is a International Lae Enforcement School in Budapest headed by two FBI agents, there is no sign that anything much changed in the last 25 years. They won't do much if you are a victim of a crime and there are traffic cameras and laser cameras to punish unruly drivers. Don't expect too many patrols because gas is expensive and they don't even have money to buy the policeman holsters. Training largely non existent. Figured you should know!
peddington replied on August 01, 2014 with:
Greetings! For the life of me I don't understand why the "personal" attack! You truly don't see the extreme stupidity in some of the rules here? It is like being in "never never land". Let me give you some example; I bought a house after obtaining the $250.00 signature from the major of the city. OK fine. Then my life partner and her children could get address card (lak cim kartya) at my residence with my approval. OK fine. Since I was on a one year resident permit I had a paper card (subsitute for lakcim kartya). I got a notice from the local authority to pay building tax (epitmeny ado). OK fine. When I contacted the office I was told that I was NOT considered a resident, even though I own the house and have resident permit and a paper card because that really wasn't an address card (lakcim kartya) issued by the National Document Bureau and I would have to pay a higher tax. As you know the resident permit requires one to be in Country at least 6 months or more and coupled with ownership this still does not qualify one for residency. This is the stupidest bureaucracy you will ever see so I hope you are taking notes. I will backtrack for a moment; when I applied for the "permit" to purchase a home I was already owner of an apartment at the capital city my poor dad left me who as a great Hungarian moved back from NYC 18 years earlier. When I submitted the paperwork the "bureaucrat" asked me for my address card. I had the "paper" kind but also had the inheritance paperwork. She said that she would mail it to me. I said do not do that because the apartment is empty and I live somewhere else. So said "no can do". I said with no doubt with my American ignorance---Why? You take a piece of paper out , I write down my address and you also sign it and--Voila! You send it there! She said that the rules did not allow that? I said what is the problem? She said in horror--What if the letter comes back? So my question is why do you defend stupidity, rigidity, incompetence and the rules of the lazy bureaucrats!? It is a system that holds back Hungary which pains me greatly! Incidentally you account of the story in the bar has nothing to do with nothing! Stupid people exist in every culture and Americans or Hungarians are no exception! As side note about Hungarians in general overseas is this; I seen them cheat and take advantage of the newcomers. I seen other nationalities help each other but not Hungarians! A national trait? Maybe not but it sure pained me as an "ethnic" Hungarian! So get off your high horse and please stick to the facts! Hungary has a long way to go and I pray that they will have the leadership and the wisdom to do so! God bless and be safe!
peddington replied on August 01, 2014 with:
Greetings! For the life of me I don't understand why the "personal" attack! You truly don't see the extreme stupidity in some of the rules here? It is like being in "never never land". Let me give you some example; I bought a house after obtaining the $250.00 signature from the major of the city. OK fine. Then my life partner and her children could get address card (lak cim kartya) at my residence with my approval. OK fine. Since I was on a one year resident permit I had a paper card (subsitute for lakcim kartya). I got a notice from the local authority to pay building tax (epitmeny ado). OK fine. When I contacted the office I was told that I was NOT considered a resident, even though I own the house and have resident permit and a paper card because that really wasn't an address card (lakcim kartya) issued by the National Document Bureau and I would have to pay a higher tax. As you know the resident permit requires one to be in Country at least 6 months or more and coupled with ownership this still does not qualify one for residency. This is the stupidest bureaucracy you will ever see so I hope you are taking notes. I will backtrack for a moment; when I applied for the "permit" to purchase a home I was already owner of an apartment at the capital city my poor dad left me who as a great Hungarian moved back from NYC 18 years earlier. When I submitted the paperwork the "bureaucrat" asked me for my address card. I had the "paper" kind but also had the inheritance paperwork. She said that she would mail it to me. I said do not do that because the apartment is empty and I live somewhere else. So said "no can do". I said with no doubt with my American ignorance---Why? You take a piece of paper out , I write down my address and you also sign it and--Voila! You send it there! She said that the rules did not allow that? I said what is the problem? She said in horror--What if the letter comes back? So my question is why do you defend stupidity, rigidity, incompetence and the rules of the lazy bureaucrats!? It is a system that holds back Hungary which pains me greatly! Incidentally you account of the story in the bar has nothing to do with nothing! Stupid people exist in every culture and Americans or Hungarians are no exception! As side note about Hungarians in general overseas is this; I seen them cheat and take advantage of the newcomers. I seen other nationalities help each other but not Hungarians! A national trait? Maybe not but it sure pained me as an "ethnic" Hungarian! So get off your high horse and please stick to the facts! Hungary has a long way to go and I pray that they will have the leadership and the wisdom to do so! God bless and be safe!
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FeliciaOni initially posted:
My father and I plan on moving to Hungary in Spring of 2015. He is a 57year old veteran and on social security disability for life. I am 34 year old female and i live with him and i am his legal and sole caregiver and family. He and I will live together in Hungary as we do here in Florida USA. His disability is enough monthly income for both of us, there for he is permanently disabled and can not work and i will not be working either, he takes care of me. Our net take home income is 2000 USA dollars a month. Is that going to be enough for us to live normal? What are the costs for a 2 or 3 bedroom apartment? The sites i have looked at in English were beyond expensive. I mean we live on the beach in Florida in one of the busiest and tourist heavy places on earth and the prices i saw would be expensive for here! But then i hear that Hungary is a very affordable place to live so i am a bit confused. I know Budapest is the biggest city in Hungary, but should we look at some of the smaller towns for better affordability? We will not be working so being close to jobs or universities is not important to us at all. And we are moving from the USA so being close to lots of other USA people is not something we would need nor desire. Right now my father has a malpractice lawsuit against the hospital pending also. If that goes in our favor then our net(take home)income will increase from 2000 a month usa dollars to 5000 net(take home) a month. But we will know by Jan if that is going in our favor. We will not apply for our residence permit until then when we know what our monthly income will be. So i am wanting to know if what we have now would be enough to live, and if we are able to get more then just live better.
gbbhdb444 replied on July 31, 2014 with:
P.S. One of my cousins just sold her apartment in the outskirts of Budapest for $31,000USD. Use a lawyer to purchase when you get ready to do so.
gbbhdb444 replied on July 31, 2014 with:
Of course you can! It is not as "strapped" as some indicate here. Don't plan on living in the heart of Budapest, but there are plenty of larger cities with hospitals, with reasonable housing. I have dozens of relatives in Hungary, most of whom make less than $500 a month!!! Do your research, choose wisely, get help from someone there, rent first, buy later.
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peddington replied to the thread Driving Licence on the Hungary forum on July 31, 2014:
CaroleM initially posted:
Hi All, I'm in Hungary at the moment on holidays and have just discovered that I either lost my driving license or left it at home. Does anyone know where I can get a replacement , unfortunately the Embassy weren't helpful.
peddington replied on July 31, 2014 with:
Greetings, It is unfortunate that you didn't make a copy or obtained an International License available from AAA. While in itself is not valid many Hungarian cops won't know that or will care. Your option is to take a chance but likely you won't be able to rent a car without one. I think most State D/L offices won't issue you one in the mail but you could try!
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peddington replied to the thread if Hungary is that bad...? on the Hungary forum:
frmrnomad initially posted:
peddington, if Hungary is that bad, terrible, awful, horrid and whatever else it is you think of the country. WHY are YOU still there? Like the USA, if not happy there, I do not think they have you handcuffed to the country. Just sayin is all.
peddington replied on July 31, 2014 with:
Greetings! Yes I agree if you can deal with a different form of bureaucracy and you can reconcile that sometimes the rules state something ridiculous and not take it personally! As a former LEO I do resent being stopped by police without probable cause just to check my paper but you right --- this is not the USA! Be safe and be well!
csardas replied on July 30, 2014 with:
Repatriated 10 years ago. Love it here. Had a fantastic life in the USA too. Each country has its own beauty, character, customs and regulations. Learning to adapt and find balance is key to happiness anywhere. Financially, as a retiree, Hungary can be paradise!
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peddington replied to the thread Moving to HU, tax free import for 1 year ? on the Hungary forum on July 28, 2014:
Lesdit initially posted:
I am planning to live in my flat in Budapest for part of the year. I hear that you are allowed to import into Hungary your personal belongings for a period of time. Where can I find more details of the procedure and rules ? Is it a hassle ? I should have my Hungarian passport withing a month or two, if that makes a difference. I live in the US currently . Thanks for all the info I receive from the forum , by the way !
peddington replied on July 28, 2014 with:
Greetings, while I'm not a citizen and therefore couldn't take advantage of this I heard also that if you moving to Hungary as a Hungarian a sort of "repatriation" you can import your belongings duty free. This is a big advantage as most things are taxed at 27% and electronics another 3% for a total of a whopping 30%. You of course have to pay other fees (form of tax) on cars for example like wight fee (suly ado) inspection (comformity with allowable specs and safety) and of course license and registration fees etc. Good luck!
KEG replied on July 28, 2014 with:
Lesdit, I can tell you that a Hungarian citizen who has lived outside the country for more than a year will not need to pay import VAT on their personal goods shipment. You will need the Hungarian passport AND your resident and tax I.D. card as well for the customs clearance process.
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sbhk posted buying property to get residence permit on the Hungary forum on July 27, 2014:
Hi. I was wondering if you buy a flat or a house in Hungary, can you get a residence permit or a multiple visa each year to stay at your bought house or flat. Also wondering if it is possible for non EU citizen to buy a house in smaller villages / rural areas
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KEG posted USA to Hungary Auto Shipment on the Hungary forum on July 25, 2014:
I am looking for a reliable international auto shipper, preferably located in Budapest. I am looking for a complete quote for a door-to-door auto shipment from USA to Hungary. I utilized the recommended links on the Expat Exchange but they are not very good. I would prefer to have a knowledgeable Hungarian company that I could contract. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks!
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FeliciaOni replied to the thread Looking for a flat in Székesfehérvár on the Hungary forum:
Maeva initially posted:
Good afternoon everyone, I´m looking for a flat to rent from September to December in Székesferhérvár for 2 persons. Has someone any advice to give me? Thanks.
FeliciaOni replied on July 24, 2014 with:
Well if it does not have 2 bedrooms, you now 2 separate sleeping rooms then it would not work for me and my father. But thanks i will keep you in mind. We are not moving until next year anyway. But i know when the time comes i will need all the help i can get to find a nice low priced place!
capttamas replied on July 21, 2014 with:
they actualy also have one separet apartment for rent with kitchen,bath,bedroom even a private balcony. Now,I don't know the availability and other details but you know where I am.
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