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Grazka replied to the thread Debrecen good place to live? on the Hungary forum on September 19, 2014:
FeliciaOni initially posted:
Hello everyone, My father(he is 57) and i(i am 34) are moving to Hungary next year and we are figuring out what city to start with. Of course Budapest is the capital and where most expats start with due to it being so international and established. But by the same token we do want someplace a bit more quiet. We have been looking at various different cities and are coming u with Debrecen. It is the 2nd largest city in Hungary and seems to be small but not too small. Housing rentals seem much more affordable there which is a big plus and also my father is from Nebraska which is the Great Plains area of USA so moving to Great Plains area of Hungary is a real plus for him. But i am asking the things you can not tell from reading online sites. Like how is it there to live? I know it is near the Romanian border so i guess that would influence things there, i guess. I honestly do not know. Has anyone on here been or lived there? Is it someplace one would recommend for people moving from USA to there?
Grazka replied 9 hours ago with:
Personally I will not live in Debrecen even if looks like it is beautiful city. Manly because of location ( poorer part of Hu). But u need to find the place where u can be happy. Best way probably will be if u come here and travel maybe around. If u don't know Hungarian u should go to the places where some emigrants are or where are some bigger possibility to find somebody English speaking.Believe me this is the biggest your problem.When u settle always u can move somewhere else. Maybe try to find somebody in Debrecen with English who can help u if those city is where u like to be.
FeliciaOni replied 10 hours ago with:
No we do not speak Hungarian. Industrial nope that seems bad in any country! he hee I will google that place, it might be good for us to stay for a few weeks until we find an apartment to rent. But we are moving to live so we will just try to deal with the bureaucracy as best we can. Debrecen still is where we will focus on but i will look into Sopron also. Although i am not seeing much n the rentals for Sopron.
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joseph1985 posted International divorce on the Hungary forum on September 14, 2014:
Does anyone have recommendations for a good divorce lawyer in Hungary? My sister who is a U.S. citizen and resident in Hungary is contemplating a divorce that will involve thorny child custody issues. Any recommendations would be appreciated. Thanks!
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SoonMoving posted Trying to buy in Budapest on the Hungary forum on September 11, 2014:
We have been trying to buy a place in Budapest for a while now. We are resident in the UK and wish to buy a home in Hungary. We have been told by the the Hungarian banks that they are not lending to foreigners. Our estate agents however has said that "it is possible for their lawyers to arrange a loan for us, through a Hungarian bank" however, I have asked and she won't elaborate how this is possible. Instead, she keeps asking for us to come over and look at places. We have already found somewhere we like, there are plenty of nice cheap flats on her books, I don't want to fly to Hungary again just to look at places, to find that we won't be able to get the mortgage. In 2009 we found someone where we liked to find that it was not possible to get the financing. Does anyone know exactly how the lawyers can arrange the mortgage?
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Hotjazzman replied to the thread Move to Dubai; sell my Audi Quattro on the Hungary forum:
buitenlander initially posted:
Audi A6 Quattro 2.5 tdi 2004 with injectors/waterpump/belts new and 180 hp; all original and as new inside with black leather. One of the last ones built and in Dubai diesel is not practical so we sell this beauty. Full options 'sport' version.
Hotjazzman replied on September 06, 2014 with:
I don't mind the criticism of "slow progress" (or lack of) if the critic understands the underlying reasons. But when he just bitch-and-moans b/c it is not "as should be"- per his uninformed notions, that's just plain ignorance (and stupid). HU may have been freed from Communism. But it has not been freed from the Communists. It is a very salient point; keep it in mind. They just removed their red star hats, and put on fedoras and top hats. Their innate visceral lack of ethics, avarice, greed and fundamental amorality remained - intact. And, don't forget this - so did the "old boy network" of collusion for corruption and thievery. (Psychopathy is not treatable, nor does it get better over time) From Antal on (he included), they were all crypto-commies, hell bent on looting. And looting they did - big time. I've heard of many-many accounts - including from an accountant - who did forensic accounting of companies sold to Westerners - at the behest of the new owner(s). Breathtaking, mind boggling corruption and looting, for years and years and years on end. Progress? Impossible. Not at the rate of thievery that went on (and still goes on). It's like cancer. Surgery would have been the proper treatment back then, but instead only chemo was used. The cancer is not gone, remissions occur, but the patient still sick as a dog, and may die either of the cancer or of the chemo - or of both.
Hotjazzman replied on September 06, 2014 with:
There are several DOZEN millions of born-and-raised Americans, who are unhappy both with, and within the US, and totally disgusted with it - in many-many different ways. It's not just one or two things. It's dozens, Let's see: politics, corruption, wealth disparity, lack of jobs, cost of education, student loans, police state environment, existential insecurity, healthcare costs, obamacare, falling living standards, illegal immigration, lying media, corporatism, housing, erosion of wages, falling apart infrastructure, trashing of the Constitution, spying on citizens. I'm sure, I left out a few more. And what's more, the numbers of the disillusioned, disgruntled are growing perceptively. An almost laughingly lowball guess would be a rock-bottom minimum of 15% - which is 45 million of disenfranchised, fed-up citizens. You apparently are utterly clueless what's going on. The govt. knows this, hence the complete militarization of police, their re-training for brutality and citizen control, and the FEMA concentration camps - now in every state. (They're still empty, but ready for millions of citizens to be interned). But I can assure you Puddington, that nowadays at least 70% of Americans hate their police - both active and retired. Pudding, you can go back to the US (please do), re-join the police, and you can terrorize, beat-up, taze, or shoot people dead, on a whim at your pleasure, without any consequences, in fact, for every person shot dead, you'll get a paid vacation. (It's called: "paid administrative leave" - but it's really a vacation). You will be completely happy, I'm sure.
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peddington posted Language... on the Hungary forum on September 06, 2014:
Greetings! One of course can't draw a parallel between the US and Hungary other than Hungary is roughly the size of Florida. The comparison kind of stops right about there. Hungarians are proud people as they should be and regardless of their "size" their "Magyar" history goes back farther than almost 300 years the US can claim. Yet Hungary is fairly insignificant because it's size, population and it's "middle of the road" politics. It takes it's EU/NATO benefits and still try to stay "cozy" with it's former occupiers. (But who can blame them!) Only a few years ago Mr. Gyurcsany and his cabinet sang the "Internationale" on TV reminiscent of the "good old communist years". Hungary as you would expect adopted practices and policies from European countries including Germany and Russia. They foster "bureaucracy" because it keeps many government employees gainfully employed and privately they tell you is because "if it is this way it is harder for people to cheat". Of course if you "know people" everything is easy and there is no 30 day waiting period for anything. Many non speakers of course don't know this because they never have a "honest" dialog with a citizen but they think they know because they lived here a few years and spoke to a few "English speaking" Hungarians and yes they have the Internet. Boy do they miss the mark! Back to the point originally mentioned; the Hungarian language is very rich and expressive. Truly a "literary" language but true enough not many speak it. Of course it would be a shame if it disappeared as anything that is part of our culture. Sadly though more and more foreign words are spoken/intermixed by media, "celebs" and politicians thinking that makes them more "sophisticate". This may signal the "end" of a language more than any other in my opinion!
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10 Tips for Living in Hungary by Betsy Burlingame
Expat ArticlesArticle Summary: Did you know that you should not have even one drink and drive in Hungary? Did you know that property crime is common in Hungary, but not violent crime? Did you know that Buda (West) side of Budapest is more residential? This article offers tips from expats living in Hungary. (Continue)
A reader replied most recently with:
...very stubbornly refuse to abandon their language even though it is one of the least spoken languages in the world." Totally not respectful remark from the author! They are proud of their Magyar language and has never been a third world country, poor,yes, but never ignorant. maybe the USA should have such stubborness and strong beliefs on the "English" language, since everything now is written in "Spanish" there. In the USA everywhere you go you feel like you are in a third world country with the Hispanics overtaking communities, the language, the outward showing of rude behavior and even the food.
peddington replied recently with:
As to the "Third World" aspect to Hungary it is a matter of one's own interpretation. The Country has no money and they barely paid off their debt to the EU on the backs of Hungarians taxing them practically to death and with a whopping 27% sales tax. Now they took a loan/contract with the former Russian occupiers (because they offered a lower interest than anyone else) to modernize their nuclear plant in the South. I guess it is hard not to make a "deal with the Devil" if you in dire straights. A number of utilities did go down as a result the "FIDESZ dividend". I guess elections will be soon! LOL! Hungary is on the edge of Schengen countries and is a gateway in to the EU. Romania with they "gypsy crime export spree" is still waiting for their membership which has been delay once again, and perhaps rightfully so. But ultimately "bureaucracy" is what choking Hungary. For some unknown reason Hungarians are not willing to change in many ways and are way behind "modernizing" their laws. Example the inheritance laws where just changed in 2010 replacing an almost 60 year old set of laws. Consumer protection laws/rules used proudly wear the 1952 date on guarantees you get from merchants. Traffic laws date back to the 1950's, with few from the 1970's. Slow to change and slow to react. We can only hope Hungary can overcome this "mindset" of "poor but proud" and "no one tells us what to do" and "hajra Magyarok" (or let's go Hungarians). If Americans yelled "Let's go Americans" they would call them "chest banging capitalist superpower" who dictates to everyone! Go figure! Let's keep our fingers crossed!
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Hotjazzman replied to the thread How long is a type D visa good for? on the Hungary forum:
FeliciaOni initially posted:
My father and I plan on moving to Hungary summer of 2015 from USA. We are both USA citizens born in USA and no have no EU ties. When i talk to the embassy, they said we can apply for a type D visa while here in USA and then apply for the residence permit when we get to Hungary. Which is all good. What i am asking is once our visa to go to Hungary is approved from here in USA how long do we have to leave and show up in Hungary? I mean how long once it is approved is it good for? Like do you have 10 days or like 90 days to leave USA and be in Hungary before it becomes invalid? (that is what i heard so i am confused) I ask cause we wondered for planning purposes like for shipping of our stuff and things like that.
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peddington replied most recently with:
Greetings, Not really sure about the "D" visa and the Hungarian Embassy would be the most appropriate to answer that-however even if you get here w/o one you allowed to stay for 90 days. If you submit the paperwork here for "residence", i.e. one year permit immigration is pretty good about making a decision in 28 days. (I know this from experience and I think it is by law). There are people here from all over including China, India and Africa so for most Westerners getting residency is not a problem as long as you prove an income you can live on, some type of health care coverage and you are not a wanted criminal. I personally do not know any Americans that where denied a residency permit if they met the basic requirements. Good luck! I'm sure "...jazzmo.." will share with you his comments of great wisdom also! LOL!
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peddington replied to the thread Friendliest city? A matter of opinion! on the Hungary forum:
peddington initially posted:
Budapest is the 10th friendliest city according to some travel guide! Well I suppose that is a matter of opinion. Another site on the internet doesn't even mention Budapest so I suppose any argument can be supported if you look in the right place. While Budapest "old" Buda side is very picturesque and it is rich with history, the Pest side not so much especially if you move away from the central area (near the Danube). Graffiti, trash and homeless is pretty much everywhere. Due to "human rights" which is another topic altogether, homeless is not required to move from door ways or metro steps. Hungarian food is great just find a place to park while you eat. You pay fro parking just about everywhere near the center of the city and by golly don't park illegally because your car will be "booted" and 15,000 forint and three hours later you may get the use of your car back. Public transportation is the way to go but ticket prices for one ride on the bus or metro is nearly about $1.40. This of course directed toward foreigners and those coming up from the country as most living in the capital city buy "passes". Incidentally the fine is advertised as 16,000 forint. Note of caution. You must validate a ticket on the bus and metro and sometimes these machines jam and don't work. Also some print a 2 mm line on the ticket you may not be able to see without glasses. Other's machines punch holes in the ticket so don't get the tickets mixed up. Incidentally if you rent a car and hit the Hungarian "autobahn" be careful. There are more radar traps then cops in Hungary. If you a foreigner they won't find you but your rental company will charge you no doubt. Thinking about fighting a ticket? Forget it! There is no such thing because in Hungary it is an "administrative fine" not directed toward the driver just toward the car which if the fine is not paid can be de-registered by the state. So have fun but remember you can be stopped by the police anytime there is no "cause" that has to be given. But fear not because that seldom happens as the police has a relatively small budget and have no money for gas. Therefore stationary radars and radar gates are used that are less expensive. Have fun while sightseeing but keep a wary eye on pick pockets. Is it as bad as Italy or France (in some places). NO but you should still keep your wallet or pocketbook close to you. The forint is low right now so your dollar, pound or euro will go far. Come visit and enjoy!
peddington replied most recently with:
Yes and DC is crazy about "gun control" also!
Hotjazzman replied most recently with:
Paddington, the only difference between 10 years ago and now in DC is, that EVERYTHING got a LOT worse. Back then a mugging in the NW was not a daily occurrence; today it is. Red light and non-stationary speed cameras increased by fivefold. Parking fees and tickets are astronomical. My 10 years ago experience was to illustrate, that even 10 years ago in DC was far worse than BUD is TODAY. Today, DC is unlivable by current(!) BUD standards.Public transportation is dismal. Crime is huge - we're talking about not theft, but MURDER. At the same time in liveable areas (by whites) especially the NW, is hideously expensive. You can live cheap(er) in the SE but if you're a white, the odds are, that you'll be dead or maimed in a year or less, be mugged at least once per month, burglarized every 2-3 months, and your car vandalized regularly.
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peddington replied to the thread Moving to Hungary on the Hungary forum:
padleys initially posted:
Hi, im new to this forum and at the moment living in Bulgaria, been here for 8 years now and have decided we need a change, been looking at Hungary and have liked what we have seen, could you help us with some facts like the cost of living an electric etc, and the places where not to look lol, thanks Sue
peddington replied most recently with:
Not really sure WHY someone would argue "semantics" like it is not a tax but VAT or it is not a visa but it is required for travel (unless you want to find your way back on the next plane) etc. It is the same "horse" by any other name. You should learn to read between the "lines"!
Hotjazzman replied most recently with:
COMPLETE Bulldung, Paddington. (The usual - of course) Google this: "Do Hungarians need a visa to the US?" The ESTA is a prepaid FEE for Customs, TSA and I think HLS. READ the requirements. All you need is a machine readable (electronic) Hungarian valid passport. You can be denied entry if you broke certain US emigration laws and therefore are prohibited to enter for a set period of time, and some other crime and conviction related issues. There will be no denial of entry if you are "CLEAN"; i.e. free of charges and convictions, or if not participating in some organization, which is connected or related to terrorism - that is as defined by the US.
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profray replied to the thread I left Hungary when I was 15, returning at age 65. on the Hungary forum:
ÖcsiJoe initially posted:
After the death of my father, my mother and I travelled through the "Iron Curtain" on Hungarian Passports to the amazement of machine gun toting military officer at the Budapesti Airport in January 1967. We were sponsored by my older brother who lived in Canada. I became a Canadian citizen, in 1998 I moved to the US and have lived in Phoenix, Arizona since. To take part in the election process I became a citizen of the US. I always prided myself saying "Magyar Vagyok, Magyarnak Születtem " in the belief that I maintained my Hungarian Citizenship. Does anyone know if I am still a Hungarian citizen ? This was my FIRST question. I have family in Ajka, which is a city with population of 36,000. I was planning on returning to Ajka, the cost of living appear to be lower than in Budapest. My nephew informed me that I could rent a one bedroom flat for $250 a month. Even though I will be retired, I do want to continue to be productive. Perhaps teaching English as a second language or a position that would utilize my English language skills. Admittedly, my Hungarian is very rusty. My SECOND request for feedback would be for some ideas for employment. I worked for the past 25 years with the mentally ill, supervised convicted sex offender Cognitive Restructuring treatment for Superior Court. Currently I am a Behavioral Health Social Worker in an acute care medical hospital, working with suicidal and substance abusing patients. Any feedback is appreciated. Thank you in advance. Öcsi - Joe
profray replied most recently with:
Dear Joe, You may have some difficulty (hopefully not) with citizen verification. Some of that paperwork was lost during the 1989 change time. We had a similar problem but the ministry took care of it. I would suggest doing the official work outside of Budapest (we did our paperwork in Gyor, very competent and no lines or having to travel all over town to get approvals or pay money). The villages around that area are very nice, quiet, places with farming, retirees, and local shops most places. Vesprem is nice and the whole region is quite pleasant. Hope things have recovered in Ajka well enough. They had a very unfortunate problem with the bauxite tailings which I am sure you heard about at the time. Gook luck!
Hotjazzman replied most recently with:
You are a HU citizen if you were born in HU, from parent(s) who were HU citizens at that time. You need to obtain your birth cert. at the locality you were born in. In BUD you have to figure out the district first, and go that district's Registry office. They're open usually only on specific days and hours. If your surname hasn't changed, it should be no problem, you'll get it right away. (Bring your US passport). You may need to know your mother's maiden name, birthdate and her birthplace. From there you go to the local Okmanyiroda or something similar named place (Documents office) - actually, it might be in the same office - and apply for a HU passport with your B/C. You'll need to give them a Hungarian address. They'll notify you (by mail) when you can pick the passport up. Without the passport you cannot legally work.
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