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Fitchm13 replied to the thread International School of Hilversum or IPSHilversum? on the Netherlands forum:
khushboo initially posted:
We are moving to Netherlands for a couple of years in July and will stay in Hilversum. I have a 4 year old son and we plan to put him in an international school. Can anyone suggest which of these schools is better for primary classes - International School of Hilversum or IPSHilversum? Thanks!
Fitchm13 replied on October 18, 2014 with:
Hello. I teach at ISH my 2 children go to Violen international. ISH has a small primary (80 students) with a larger seconday program. Violen is only up to 6th grade. Both are excellent programs with exceptional staff and headmasters. They are right next door to each other.
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Maryrose1 replied to the thread The 'Dark Side' to Integration on the Netherlands forum:
DutchActually initially posted:
Hi forum! Full disclosure first: I am Dutch, I live in the Netherlands. So I am not an expat. I am married to an American. She has been living here for well over a year now, and she enjoys living here. By and large. Apparently, it is difficult for her to discuss with me why integrating here is so problematic for her. She accuses me of being too cavalier about the whole thing, and that I'm being too defensive when she feels otherized by the Dutch. I'll qualify that word below. Apparently, I'm entirely stuck in my opinion that it is quite easy to get settled, and find your footing, in the Netherlands. Yes, people will look at you when they hear an accent. Yes, people will ask you where you're from a thousand times and volunteer their experiences with your country, and not always in a subtle manner. Yes, people will strike up a conversation, simply based on you not being from here (including the inescapable "And when will you go back?" question). I've read The Undutchables, I get all of that. To me, as a Dutchman, that is mostly innocent, welcoming, understandably annoying, but not in any way vicious or otherist. Therefore, I cannot seem to address this issue without getting into a very mutually defensive fencing match with my wife. But I need to get this right. According to my wife, there is a much darker, much more insidious nature to the otherism in the Netherlands. No matter how well-known your culture is (and, let's face it, Americans are considered well-known), no matter how well you learn and/or speak the language (my wife hasn't done that yet), no matter how social or sociable you are (we both are not, really), there is a perceptible, not always hidden, undertone of otherism in Dutch society that is disconcerting, offputting, disheartening. It is my wife's contention that, no matter how well you integrate and adapt in the Netherlands, you will always be other, you will always be an outsider, always non-Dutch. People don't see you as a person, but as (in this case) an American person living here, and any conversation will immediately focus on that aspect. And it has a discriminating effect. It sets you apart, and not in an extraordinary way, but in an extraneous way, so to speak. I'd love to know more about this, but my wife keeps telling me that I get defensive and apologetic, that I downplay anything negative she brings to the table. And I probably do all of that, because I come from a background of 'If it ain't Dutch, it ain't much, and the Olympics aren't helping'. But I need to understand this, or it will break us. So, please tell me, and don't hold back. What is the dark side of life in the Netherlands as an expat? What is negative, insidious, disheartening about trying to fit in here? Is it really impossible to just be accepted into Dutch society, or even to just be considered 'Dutch enough not to be noticed for your otherness'? Or is an expat in the Netherlands always just that? An expat, an extra, an extraneous? Help me understand. Thank you. P.S. have a look at -- does that ring a bell?
Maryrose1 replied on October 16, 2014 with:
First off no one ever said it was easy going to another country. BUT, your wife is in the Netherlands and should speak, although most Nederlanders speak English, it helps to know the language. I don't think that they have a problem with Americans. I think that they are curious and different about the way they approach anyone, not just Americans. She learn Dutch, what would happen if you could not be there and she needed to communicate? Americans are very outgoing and have many friends. Things are changing here in America too. She needs to find out what she loves most about the Netherlands, not worrying about what people are saying. Life is too short, be adventurous, by yourself if need be but don't be miserable. See the Netherlands for what she is a beautiful country. SHE CAN DO THAT!! Make it fun! Good luck wish I were there at the moment! Nederland is prachtig, en de mensen zijn erg gereserveerd, dat is waar, maar je zult niet in staat zijn om vrienden te maken als je zo worden bewaakt. Ja dat is zo. Relax, ontspan en hebben een mooie ervaring. Liefde voor alle !!!!
Francien replied on October 07, 2014 with:
I recognize this side of the Netherlands. But.. it's not only with expats, my experience is that it also happens when you come for example from another town or city. Francien Onderdijk 'Dutch Lesson'
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Francien commented on the Expat Report Moving to The Hague, Netherlands
What advice would you give someone preparing to move to your area about the actual move, choosing a neighborhood and finding a home?
Think long and hard about how you would live your life, what kind of life you really want. I chose to transition from working outside the home (US) to working at home (writer), so we wanted an urban, Dutch lifestyle. I actually enjoy wandering up to the shopping street to buy my daily groceries and run errands in the late afternoon. We use public transportation for everything except my picking up the kids from school (20 min. away) 3 days a week when they're in the middle of sports and activities (as they're in high school and have tons of homework). My husband walks to/from work, and we're able to eat meals as a family. My friends who live in the 'expat enclave' near the school 1) have no Dutch friends, 2) don't really speak any Dutch and 3) their husbands are 'ghosts' in their families - never around due to long commutes. (Continue)
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And... communication is everything!! Learn the Dutch Language as soon as possible and in a vivid way. I'm an enthusiastic, ánd certified coach/ trainer who loves it to teach you our language. I've a lot of possibilities. You're welcome! Francien Onderdijk (see LinkedIn) 'Dutch Lessons'
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GiselleExpats posted Anyone wanna join me sailing? on the Netherlands forum:
Is anyone interested in sailing with me in Holland? As an expat in Holland myself, I’m looking for other expats to join me on a sailing course. The more, the better! I think it’s also a good way to get to know new friends and the country itself, don’t you?
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We are planning got relocate to Rotterdam and ASH in Hague does not have space so I would really appreciate if someone can give me some guidance regarding American school in Rotterdam and International school in Hague.
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Hi - are you renting or did you buy in Amstelveen? Can you advise realistically what it will cost for a 4 bed apartment in a nice area of Amstelveen? We currently live in a very affordable part of the UK with a detached 4 bed (I suspect we would get maybe 1000 euros if we rented it out. Can you tell me the things you really like about Amstelveen and on the other hand the not so good or struggles you have found please?
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