1. Still trying to get "pension points" awarded for 433,000,00,- worth of taxes deducted at source from my gross salary between 1989 and 1996. That was a "special tax scheme" for non-resident foreigners.
2. I bought a house in Norway, registered a business, got a residence permit, signed onto the Folkregister. 18 months later, after becoming a Dad to a Norwegian son, born to a norwegian Mum, in Norway, the residence permit (which needed renewing) was refused so I had to come off the Folkregister. That denies you access to any benefits in Norway in return for your National Insurance contributions.
3. Being off the Folkregister, I go back to the "special tax for foreigners" and a few years later, when I don't get paid, I find out the company who have been deducting the taxes haven't been passing them on to the tax collector. I'm fined for non-payment of taxes with interest added as, after the initial "special foreigners' tax" deductions at source, the house I own in Norway (a country I am abliged to leave every 3 months as I have no residence permit) has made me tax liable to Norway, a country UDI have refused me permission to live in.
being a parent of a Norwegian child, even one of whom you have shared custody doesn't entitle you to a residence permit.
Owning a house in Norway goes a long way to making you tax liable to Norway and national Insurance contributions are automatically added to your tax assessment. However, you get nothing in return because you're not entitled to benefits if you're not on the Folkregister which needs you to have a residence permit which I was refused because I "didn't need one" because my work took me out of Norway and I wasn't there more than 3 months at a time.
I managed this situation for a while until inevitably, I became ill. With no entitlement to any benefits, a GP (doctor) to co-ordinate the follow up to an operation where my gallbladder was mistaken for a pseudocyst on my pancreas, I had to return to the UK and stop working to receive the "follow up". I got a bill for 60,000,00,- for a week in a Norwegian hospital despite being a fully paid up member of the Norwegian National Insurance Scheme and then failed the Habitual Residency Test in the UK.
As late as 2014, I was told I am not entitled to an EU Healthcard or a GP in Norway. The beaurocracy here is horrendous.
If you are a middle class, qualified professional comfortably in the system in your native land, you're almost certainly better off where you are than coming to Norway.
Coming here you risk your qualifications being useless if your Norwegian isn't deemed up to scratch and, without work, you'll soon find yourself in trouble or doing menial jobs (like the cliche Afghan brain surgeon washing dishes in restaurants)
Buy a house here and you risk becoming tax a liable to a country that refuses you permission to live there plus, of course, there's the risk your tax deductions will go missing if you "don't exist". You'll return "home" and discover your previously good credit rating is non-existent, you're being chased by the Norwegian tax authorities for taxes that were taken from your wages but kept by your Norwegian employers.
If you're fleeing war, famine, disease and poverty ... Norway will perhaps be a step up for you. You may not be happy here but you MAY be better off if you can keep yourself warm.
It's a beautiful country with some fine people but, perhaps this is because Norway never had an "empire", it's not geared up for administering waves of migration and I wouldn't say "case-handling" is a Norwegian strong point. You can expect to wait the best part of a year to get any reply to letters to state bodies. often, you won't get a reply at all especially if the person handling it isn't sure how to proceed. The easy cases involving Norwegians may well be dealt with first.
Do take a cruise round the fjords sometime and go as far North as possible. I enjoyed Honningsvag!
To keep up to date, google "EFTA""Surveillance""Norway" and you'll see the kind of cases being brought against The Kingdom of Norway, the kind of cases that ended up being taken to the EFTA equivalent of the EU court rather than, for example, Norway deciding it should pay benefits to foreigners who'd worked and paid National Insurance in Norway.
It's also worth pointing out that learning Norwegian may not be the best investment you could make with your time and energy. You can't use it anywhere else unlike Spanish, Portuguese, Mandarin, Russian etc.. in places like Brazil, South America ... places where there's potential for growth.
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Jonty, I am so sorry to hear you are still dealing with such outrageous bullcrap, it truly is a damn shame you have been screwed over so badly. I am married to a norsk man but I haven't been able to find employment as they say unless I learn the language, chances are slim to none to be hired anywhere. I get no help from Norway what-so-ever and nor does my hubby for fully supporting me. I have been forced back into kurs to try learning the language once again, even though I have repeatedly told NAV that GIV sucks at teaching here in Kongsvinger. But I do what I must to be able to return to the work force.
My problem is that My husband works but at the moment is out on doctor ordered sick leave, so we don't have extra funds to get out to do things and be amongst the language on a daily basis, and he isn't really able to do so anyways. I go to my S-I-L's a few times a week just to get out the house, but the kids are trying to learn english in school so they would rather I speak english when there, and hubby always speaks english at home. So not hearing the language spoken daily doesn't really healp with what little I manage to gain from norskkurs sadly.
After all you have been through though, I am seriously scared to death to work here, between the taxes to Norway and I have heard nightmares of the US double taxing expats. I know there is a tax consultant company who does tax forms for expats, but the charge for this is ridiculously highend and to me would only be lowered tax only to go to them in turn. (as the saying goes, rob Peter to pay Paul?). So I am at a total loss as to what my employment future will hold for me. I do love it here in Norway and wish to continue living here, but if they were to screw me over the coals as they have you, at my age I would be in dire straits for sure.
replied to the thread Currency Exchange
on the Norway forum on October 16, 2014:
Hi Expat Exchange
Where are some good places to exchange money in Norway? Do most locals exchange at banks, at currency exchanges or online?
Thanks in Advance
We don´t do currency exchange here in Norway directly. We have found it to be cheapest to simply draw out money on our ATM card from our US credit union. You get a better exchange rate that way, and only the 1% cross-border charge that Visa adds on. Our credit union does not charge any ATM fees and the ATMs here don´t either. You would have to check with your bank to see if they charge a fee. If you are going to exchange a large amount (like $10,000.00, then you can have t the money wired to your Norwegian bank account.
replied on October 16, 2014 with:
Hubby and I have always found it best to do exchanges at the airport in Oslo (Gardermoen). Not sure if you get any better at a bank if you are a customer, but I do know the banks will rob you blind if you are not a customer ;)
replied to the thread Family unification
on the Norway forum:
I am disabled living in Norway. I got permission based on humantarian ground which qualify me for family unfication, At my health status now I can work , But the requirement is to get some funds before you can unite with your family. Is there no exception to this law for people with disability.
replied on October 11, 2014 with:
Hi, sad to say, no there is no exception, you have to prove able to fully support any and all family you intend on bringing here, and only children under the age of 18 are eligible, as well as spouse/fiance'.
My sister-in-law is on inability and her fiance is not allowed to stay here until she is fully able to support him. And they even have a 1 year old baby together.
replied to the thread 10% Stanard tax Deduction - Skatt
on the Norway forum:
I apologize in advance if this topic has already been seriously exhausted, however I am under a bit of a time crunch..
First off, I am Canadian. I have been granted my family immigration permit since 17.11.2011. However I did not begin working until Feb.2012.
I was wondering about the 10% tax deduction for the first 2 years in Norway.
I did receive it for my 2012 tax return, but am now being told I cannot claim this deduction for 2013 tax period, as I lived in Norway in 2011. Therefore this deduction only applied to tax year 2011 and 2012.
BUT, I wonder how this is possible, as I did not work in 2011 (aka:did not earn or pay taxes).
I was certain the 10% deduction was for the first 2 years of employment in Norway.. OR atleast the first 24 months lliving here (from the date of receiving my reseidence permit).
Does anyone have a similar story or advice?
Thanks in advance.
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I found some info that I thought might be helpful:
If you stay in Norway for more than 183
days during a 12-month period or for more
than 270 days during a 36-month period,
you will be liable to tax in Norway on all
your capital and income pursuant to
Norwegian tax rules. You are then ‘tax
resident’ in Norway. You first become tax
resident in Norway from the income year in
which your stay exceeds 183 or 270 days.
If you come to Norway in October one year
and stay until June the year after, you
have ‘limited tax liability’ in the first
year and are ‘tax resident’ the following
I hope this helps!
replied to the thread Permit Times/UDI
on the Norway forum:
I have just recently come across this forum and found some useful information. I am wondering if I can please ask some of your experiences with processing times for permits. I have applied for family immigration with my husband who is a Norwegian citizen, I am American. We applied and provided all documents about two months ago, but have yet to hear anything. I am just wondering if anyone has recently applied for family immigration and what your experience with the processing times (especially anyone coming from the US) has been. I am so anxious to be reunited with my husband, as he is already there. Thank you for your time.
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Just want to provide some further info here for others who may read this:
While tazzbaby's response is probably correct for mamaprase, it doesn't apply to everyone. It depends on which country you are from. If you don't need a visa to enter Norway in the first place (under the Schengen agreement for example) then you can apply for family reunification from outside Norway and then enter Norway afterwards. I'm Australian, and I've just done this last week. I just made sure I got it in writing from UDI before applying.
Hi mamaprase, to answer your question. The rules in Norway are that once you begin the process depends on where you applied. If you applied inside of Norway, you cannot set foot outside of Norway until you receive your residency permit. If you leave you will automatically forfeit the process. Now if you apply outside of Norway then you will not be able to enter Norway during the process at all, and again if you do you forfeit the process. As for returning to your home country, I am not sure if that is possible even if you applied outside Norway, you would have to search the rules thoroughly. If I were in your shoes, I wouldn't make any moves until you have those papers in hand, good luck
replied to the thread Moving and working in Norway
on the Norway forum:
I work in the Oil Industry in Alaska and would like to get a job in Norway. Do you have any suggestions?
Thank you so much for the information and web sites.
Well to be honest, with your skills you should have no problem finding work here, try finding a job and let them sponsor you on a work visa, and you can apply for residency once you are solid in a position, and you still wish to stay. I will hook you up to several sites to search employment.
www.manpower.no (temp to perm)
When finding what you wish to apply to, send a resume and cover letter, as well as a descriptive intro letter explaining that you wish to move here from Alaska, so are hoping to obtain a permanent position and work visa. I hope this helps and I wish you lots of luck.
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