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Morell replied to the thread Realistic cost of relocating from U.S. on the Uruguay forum on September 16, 2014:
SinBandera initially posted:
Can any one give me a break down of what would be a realistic amount to save for moving expenses (based on experience). We are not planning on bringing much. Just a very small shipping container (no furniture). Aside for the tickets which will be for a family of 5 (around $7k), obviously first and last month's rent plus deposit for a place(about $3k). From experience are there any unforeseen expenses that anyone encountered that I should be aware about? Thanks.
Morell replied on September 16, 2014 with:
If you bring a container then you have to have applied for residency or you will be charged import duties. There are expenses for residency and if you don't speak good Spanish you will need to hire someone to help. You will be required to post a bond for the duty on your possessions depending on the value of the contents and this will not be returned until you get permanent residency which will probably be two years or so. it will probably be around $5000 US at least. Ours was $12,000 US for a 20 foot container. Usually you have to give 5 months deposit for renting not just first and last here. You will need medical insurance I assume as the public health service is for low income and unemployed folk. We were told if you are looking for residency then you do not qualify for it. I do know someone who used it for a few months but was very unhappy with the service. Not sure what this would cost but at least $200 US total per month for you all I would think depending on your ages.
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Pancho replied to the thread Considering relocation on the Uruguay forum:
TampaToo initially posted:
My wife and I are in our early 40's and are disgusted with the "American lifestyle". We have been looking for places to immigrate and Uruguay is on the top of our list. We are not people who are looking to retire cheaply and live the American lifestyle in a South American country. We do not have a considerable amount of savings and we want to get jobs and immerse ourselves into the culture. We are both teachers. I have a master's in science education. My wife has her master's degree in special education, but is also certified in mathematics. We are currently working on learning Spanish. I am told that we could teach English. Does anyone know anything about teaching in Uruguay? We have absolutely no interest in teaching in the Uruguay-American School. I read contrasting opinions on the cost of living. Some say that it is inexpensive, others say that it is very expensive. We are interested in a modest lifestyle in Montevideo. Would a teaching job be able to afford a modest lifestyle? We would assume a small apartment or condo. I think our biggest expense would be the actual move. I would assume that we would sell almost everything except very personal items...or is it more cost effective to ship your furnishings? Lastly, I am very unfamiliar with housing/apartment regulations. We have 2 Umbrella Cockatoos that we love and would not consider leaving. They are part of our family and with their life span, they should be with us for the rest of our lives. Are there pet restrictions, etc. like there are in the U.S. or is it more relaxed? I have read that in other countries there tends to be less guidelines and regulations like there is in the U.S. Thank you for your time and I hope that someone can answer these and other questions that I have!
Pancho replied on September 15, 2014 with:
Hi Brian, the caseI mentioned as experience was from Germans coming with cockatoosfrom Germany. They had the permit to leave Germany, but no airline sold them a ticket for the birds without the "import permit" for Uruguay. It is not easy asyou will have to make thepaperwork in Montevideo before and specify the date the will be arriving as a veterinarian will be expecting birds and papersat the airport and decidetoallow the quarantine at your home if you haveone.
crazyfarmer replied on September 08, 2014 with:
I wasn't disagreeing with you, `just mentioning the importance of following the rules in this case. To an many Americans, these rules sound ridiculous. And Uruguay isn't exactly known for brutally enforcing regulations. But I hear that in this case, it's best to follow the regulations exactly because they can and will cause you a problem. Also, I doubt anyone would have that much trouble finding a taxi or remise that would carry their pets in spite of the regulations. Same for the hotels. brian
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ShawnR replied to the thread Drilling for Water on Land in Rivera on the Uruguay forum on September 13, 2014:
ShawnR initially posted:
I am in Rivera and have 22 hectares and trying to find a honest and competent Driller for water supply to a coming house on the land. It seems that only 6 are legally registered in Uruguay, I want to have the job done right at a fair price but have no way to determine which Driller can provide that. Any suggestions would be helpful, If i can't find one within next couple of weeks i will go with: Eula y Alvez Barrio Paso de la Estiva Rivera Uruguay What makes me nervous is when i approached this guy he said he knew the area where my land was, there was good water, and should be about 30 meters down. When we went to the land, he had picked up dowsing rod, the depth magically became 60 to 70 metres effectively doubling/more the original guesstimate. Second question i have is one of piping material. I do not prefer plastic (pvc) based on health reasons of leaching, i also am not keen on iron for rusting or of "steel" (he has not said stainless and i am guesing this is going to come from china, another strike against quality). What i do feel comfortable with is copper but he says it is impossible/very-difficult and responded with another possible option of bronze. I would be interested in anyone else's views on this subject. thanks, shawn shawnriley.123 skype
ShawnR replied on September 13, 2014 with:
Thank you Brian, it was a great answer, i will look into the 4" pvc bucket solution. Yes, i would like the best (bronze/copper), but he has not yet given me price for that and likely i just can't afford it. I will likely go with a wind mill solution for power, there is no electricity on the land... but there is cell phone service, something i would have actually liked to get away from but, guess that is a pretty big trick to pull off nowadays. Since reality is catching up with me on these costs i am trying to figure what type of house i should do. I know i want something with a porch sitting area because you would not believe the beautiful views - almost 270 degrees - from the planned house sight, just real gorgeous. Since i am alone (but hoping at least for a significant other at some point) i don't need a large place (probably 40k or less). I am thinking a cement house not just for selling (don't want to do something radically different and no one would be interested to purchase in future) but to make sure that it has the ability to be properly insulated, yes mold is pissing me off, not looking forward to opening my boxes. I was wanting to get someone from my small town to build but i am thinking that could be a lot of political hazards in that approach and i would be better off with a prefab house. Again, this area could get some high winds though so i am not sure where to look for a relatively inexpensive but strong house. I also do need a shed and was originally wanting a nice one of those but $ is not there. I was wanting a nicer one for when i take trips and want to make sure someone would not steal a tractor (another big ticket item) i really need to get. Seems to me i should get the house and shed built together, problem is the shed should be large enough to hold two trucks, tractor and at least several tractor attachement along with a functional space to putter around in and maybe even process animals if i get to that. This is another way though that was mentioned by someone else, i.e., don't worry about a great shed (or great house for that matter) but go basic open walled but covered or cheaper material shed and just have someone house sit if i take trips. Well, those are some of the other issues i am struggling with. Hope all is well with you and your family. peace
ShawnR replied on September 13, 2014 with:
i don't like chemicals leaching into my drinking water is the reason i don't like plastic, hate the stuff, (bpa, whatever the next chemical they find is coming out from this stuff, etc) wish it was never invented, but the truth is it might be my only realistic option right now. Asking the neighbors is a great idea. only problem there is only me at this level of the land, i am half-way down a hill and all the properties are at least 30 hectares average, but it is something that should be done. My understanding is flat 180usd per meter charge, pump and tanks extra.
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Morell replied to the thread apartment in montevideo on the Uruguay forum on September 10, 2014:
mbhance initially posted:
i am looking for a nice apartment that is safe. i want to check out the country and don't know how to proceed. any help will be greatly appreciated. thanks!
Morell replied on September 10, 2014 with:
Marita's email is marita2727@gmail.com
Morell replied on September 10, 2014 with:
Short term rentals especially furnished can be hard to find and prices rise for December to end of February. Another option is http://www.buscandocasa.com/ Put in Lugar - Montevideo Inmueble - Apartamento Mes - Diciembre for example then Buscar Once you see that page, pick an area - I believe Pocitos is a reasonable area. You also might want to post on Marita's newsletter If you tell her exactly what you are looking for, someone may reply to you. The newsletter goes out most weeks to quite a large group of mostly expats in English.
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Morell replied to the thread "Chemtrails" on the Uruguay forum:
kimkensok initially posted:
The US, Canada and even Panama have alot of Chemtrails. When we were in Uruguay for a week I never saw one. Does anyone know more about this terrible action...if they do it down there? We want to head to the southern hemisphere, but were shocked to find out Monsanto is there with their GMO crops....thanks
Morell replied on September 06, 2014 with:
pjantares replied on September 06, 2014 with:
Could it be WHAT you eat as opposed to how much you eat?
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crazyfarmer replied to the thread Working remotely for non-Uruguyan company on the Uruguay forum on September 04, 2014:
BritToUruguay initially posted:
Hi all, I'm relocating to Uruguay next year and am looking at how to remain employed by my current UK employer. The worry I have at present is that me working remotely (even if it is from home) will mean that my company has set up a 'permanent estsblishment' in Uruguay and will therefore be subject to Uruguayan corperation tax. Not my problem, I know, but I'm trying to sell the move to my employer as simply as possible and I don't think they'll be keen on registering and paying tax in another country. My income should be exempt from Uruguayan tax as it is foreign sourced and I will not be dealing at all with the Urugayan economy. Anybody with any experience or advice would be gratefully received.
crazyfarmer replied on September 04, 2014 with:
Hello. I'm a USian working from home for companies in the US while living in Uruguay. You definitely don't have to setup a corporation or anything like that here in Uruguay. Just move into your place here, setup your internet access, and work from home. The only issues will be the technical issues you'd expect. If you're planning to live in the city or a place like Atlantida, you should be able to get fiber optic internet comparable to what you can get in the US or UK, but check first. If you live in a rural area, internet access might be a little more problematic, but probably doable. I live in this goofy blind spot where I'm too far from the antel towers to get reliable internet. It works, but it drops too many packets to really be what I would call "working". I still use it though. I also have a movistar USB modem that works much faster and more reliably than the antel thing. But it's got a 12gig monthly cap. And it's a bit oversold so it might slow down on friday and saturday nights. The best solution is probably to get 2 or 3 movistar modems. Your employer will need to give you a VPN account that you can log into over the internet. Most likely, they already have this for people who work from home on occasion in the UK. For my current employer, this is a userid-password thing. But for past employers I've had, this was a hardware dongle. So make sure you bring that with you if you need it. I use a Windows instance running in vmware so the VPN doesn't take over my enter internet connection. Bring a line conditioner also for your computer. Mine has battery backup so I can keep running for about 15 minutes if the power goes out. You'll continue to get paid "up there". And you can extract money from your account at ATMs here. Or you can wire money down here into your account here if you have one. But they might ask for extra paperwork the first time you do it to prove where you're getting the money from. Americans are guilty until proven innocent in this regard, but they might be nicer to Brits. If you're going to apply for residency, you'll need to show proof of income. And frequently, a salaried job won't cut it. For me, I was an independent contractor with my own corporation in the US. So I could show income from that. It's a symanics thing that might bite you here. So you might want to consider that and rearrange things up there before you come down. brian
carlitos replied on September 04, 2014 with:
I don't think you would have problems. The Uruguayan government wont know about your work status, your money will continue to drop into your acc in the UK and you can use several ways to get access to it and spend the money here, and nobody will ask about the origin of that money provided is not a lot. My wife worked in the UK and we she got back here she continue to receive for 3 years checks from the queen - I guess taxes paid over the amount she was supposed to pay, and we exchanged the checks here and the UY government never asked any question. So as long you can convince your boss to allow you to continue working and continue paying your salary in your current Ac you are ok.
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carlitos replied to the thread finding a rental on the Uruguay forum on September 03, 2014:
waltas initially posted:
Greetings! My husband and I just arrived in Uruguay. We are currently in a hotel and need to find a rental for 3 months ASAP. Where to start? Anyone know of a good, english speaking service that can help out? Do inmobiliarias help with this, or just buying? Thanks in advance!
carlitos replied on September 03, 2014 with:
hi, I know a nice lady that can help you, can you be more specific on what kind of property you want to rent as # or rooms, the area you prefer and what range is your budget? you can PM me if you want. Carlos
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Morell replied to the thread Opening a bank account in Colonia on the Uruguay forum:
JerryinBA initially posted:
I will be in Colonia, later this month.In order to open an account with BROU, should I make an appointment so that I will be able to speak with an English speaking representative The amount of money will be fairly large and I believe that I have all the required documentation.
Morell replied on September 02, 2014 with:
I read that Argentina is using money sniffing dogs to prevent money leaving above the allowable level. We recently had to provide information on all our assets ( deed to the house and current value, sales agreement for our car etc.) in Uruguay and needed an escribano to go with us to verify them. They told us if we did not then our account at BROU would be "restricted" whatever that means. We are not from the US and have had an account for a couple of years. I have heard other banks are slightly more casual than BROU so you might try a different bank if it does not go well at BROU. When we were here as visitors, I tried to get money from two different credit cards at BROU at the same time and the woman who was serving me got quite upset and refused. I have also been told to come back with an Spanish speaker if I want service. Each branch though is different and you may have better luck than I do.
focus replied on September 02, 2014 with:
Hi Jerry, I suspect you will probably have take a number like everyone else and wait your turn. I suspect also there will be someone there who speaks English but you never know. If I can be of any help just ask.
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Morell replied to the thread Upcoming trip to Uruguay on the Uruguay forum:
claysproles initially posted:
I have been visiting several countries over the last few years to re-locate. We have read as much as possible on Uruguay and most of what I have learned sounds great. Now it’s time to visit and we have planned a trip and will be arriving October 15th. We want to visit several of the coastal cities and get a feel for the culture and the everyday life. We are interested in meeting any couples that may want to meet and share their experience moving to Uruguay. We are currently located in Bristol TN. I’m an Insurance claims Adjuster and my wife is an RN. We are around 50 (one below and one just above) so we are not big-time partiers but we do like to share a meal, bottle of wine and good conversations. We also would be interested in any Expat meetings around this time. I would also like to ask for some input on recommended cities to take a serious look at. I will be able to continue work as long as I have a good internet connection. So this is high on the necessary list. Preference would be a coastal city, We would like to purchase a home with a fair sized yard, (gardening hobby ) up to 200-300 US$ One place we have considered looking at is Piriapolis. Does anyone have any other suggestions? We value any and all input because on this visit our time is limited to two weeks. Thank you in advance for your valuable input. Claysproles@gmail,.com
Morell replied most recently with:
There are several English speakers meetings but they may not all coincide with your visit. The one in Atlantida is the 1st and 3rd Thursdays at 1300 at Indigo restaurant which is close to the Asociacion Espanola clinic along the beach road Rambla in Atlantida. I think the Piriapolis one is still going but I do not know when they meet and there is one in Punta del Este, I think on a Monday but I am not sure when exactly. There are several in Montevideo as well. Two on Sundays and another during the week. I can give you that info if you are interested. We looked at Piriapolis as well but did not find a house we liked there. A great realtor in that area is Van Bevern. They are very professional and speak English and have a good website. We bought in Atlantida which is smaller than Piriapolis but closer to Montevideo. All the towns ( I would not call any of them cities! ) along the coast are very quiet except from about mid December to the end of February. A few are a little more lively on weekends when folk from Montevideo go to their summer homes for the weekend. As long a you are close to town you should have a reasonable connection for internet. I have friends who bought a farm after being assured they could hook up but now they want to move in, it seems there is no internet there after all!
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JoeSteele replied to the thread Looking for Santiago Vera on the Uruguay forum:
JoeSteele initially posted:
Hi, I'm Joe I'm new to the forum. I'm Canadian and currently living in Buenos Aires. Has it been as warm in Uruguay as it's been down here in the last week?!? I'm looking for Santiago Vera Sanudo. Santiago Vera is currently in Punta del Este. If you have any information on his whereabouts please contact me. Thanks, Joe
JoeSteele replied most recently with:
I hear he's spending most of his time in the Casino trying his hand at poker.
JerryinBA replied most recently with:
I heard that he's going to be staying at the Alvear Palace Hotel in Buenos Aires. He can'r stay there for too many days, as his budget is US$1,000.
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