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One expat in the Ukraine talks about expat life -- it's low cost of living, few expats and lots of young people attending university.

What is the name of the city or town that you are reporting on?

Mogliv-Podilskyi

How long have you lived there?

4 months

What activities, clubs and organizations would you recommend to newcomers to help them meet others?

Baptist Church, or Pizza Cafe on Staviska.

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In terms of religious, racial, economic and cultural diversity, are the people of this city or town diverse? Are they accepting of differences? Describe.

Almost all Russian Orthodox, no other races here, and last month there were four other Americans here. But no longer.

When they meet people they know, they are sure to show acceptance and warm greetings. They always shake, removing gloves first, or hug/kiss on cheek. If you don't, you will be seen poorly. And word moves fast.

Sidewalks are VERY busy during most days. Very primitive, and maybe icy/dangerous. Bring cleats. Taxi's are 20 hgrevna to anywhere in town. No stop lights, no horns used, no alarms going off constantly, only dogs sometimes barking. No sirens, no overhead jets. Barking. I can live with this.

You must be careful if you are a single guy, to be sure that a woman has no man. But there are plenty of those! AIDs is epidemic in Ukraine, but this is a relatively remote town, and is not a problem here, that I know of.

You can not buy beef in the grocery store (1), but you can get it in the open air market. There is no chili, or canned soups, or canned meals. I have learned to make my own chili. I get a good omelet at Pizza Cafe for about 3 dollars. I had to show them how to put a bunch of other stuff on it besides just the eggs.

There is one hamburger place in town, across the street from Pizza Cafe. Like Mc Donalds, but Ukrainish. Good double cheese, maybe shakes. They also sell bigger pizza here.

What are the main industries in this city? What types of career opportunities commonly exist? How do most people find new jobs?

I suspect the main industry is smuggling, and it is very hard for them to find a job now. But teaching English is in demand. Most jobs are found word of mouth, I think.

In general, what are peoples' priorities in this city? For example, do lives revolve around work, family, socializing, sports, etc.?

Four universities and a host of job training schools, so many young. They have no cultural problem with promiscuity, and most children do not have fathers present. This usually results in criminal delinquency elsewhere. Mogliv is the second highest crime city in UE behind Odessa. Much smuggling from Moldova across the river. We have a dance club here, it is called Step. Three people knocked off by Russian Mafia last week. Best to be home after dark.

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If a friend of yours was thinking of moving to this city or town from far away, what other advice would you give them.

Rent with an official rental agreement. It costs twice as much, but if you try the way they do, the first month is low, but you will then be asked for a LOT more, and if you don't pay, they promptly kick you out. Even if you have been there less than 24 hours, there is not a thing you can do. Well, maybe cry.

Laws here are lax. You can do things that will amaze you. Even carry a concealed gun, no permit. If you are here over three months, you become an illegal alien. If you leave, you will not be allowed back. If you stay, they cannot afford to kick you out, so they will only fine you $100 upon your eventual departure. I cannot even go across the river to Moldova for lunch! Until I marry. If.

If you marry a Ukrainian, you can stay here legally, and not become a UE citizen. I personally will get a UE lawyer to handle the papers. Like everything else here, it costs a lot less than the US. My very low SS Disability income is four times the national average income here. I can not afford to live in California anymore, but I can, here. At least, theoretically. They still are not paying me!

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guest
Apr 9, 2013 22:11

This report has answered a lot of questions for me. But there are still are a few questions I'd like to ask; 1. If you leave the Ukraine "Before" the end of the 3 month period, How long do you have to be gone before you can legally return? 2. How hard is it to find a job teaching English? 3. If you are formally teaching English under a contract with a school, can you get a work visa or will you still need to leave the country before the end of the 3 month period? Any information will be appreciated. steve

guest
Jun 25, 2013 19:21

Please let us know how you are managing there. I also have entertained the thoughts of "retiring" in Ukraine. Getting so I very well may NOT be able to survive in the US on my retirement income. I have visited Ukraine (eastern) 5 times and really enjoy the people and the country. Only wish they had a decent golf course there! If you hear of any, let me know. Good luck! Gordon

Gregarious
Aug 26, 2013 05:42

Been here a year now. Found I had to pay enormous fine of $60. because I am an illegal alien now. The us 'owners'/government has resumed paying me, as long as I travel from anywhere in the country to the Embassy in Kiev, to prove I am innocent of collecting a check when in fact I am dead. Yeah, looking for a lawyer, major class action. Found that I was lied to about getting an official lease here. They just doubled the usual amount and everything was fine. I am now looking for a house, $80 a month.

Gregarious
Aug 26, 2013 05:53

Steve, the way it works is this; if you do the 'official' way, you must leave after three months, and wait until the next year. I think nine months. OR you can be an illegal alien after the three months, and pay a whopping, I think, $65 fine. You stay as long as you wish, but when you leave, you cannot return. Unless you marry a local. Everyone here knows a LITTLE English, and everyone wants you to teach them. But I do not know about formal jobs. There are two schools here in town, I am sure you could find work. I do not know about the work visa, never looked into it. I will soon for you.

Gregarious
Aug 26, 2013 05:59

Gordon, I have been here now for over a year, mostly here in Mogliv-Podilskyi. If you are on SSDI, you would know what that means, and you must 'visit' our 'owners' Embassy in Kiev every four weeks. Otherwise, I would suggest looking into Yalta for their golf course. It is practically tropical.

Gregarious
Aug 26, 2013 06:01

Gordon, SSDI is disability, and I think the regular SoSecurity payment means the same monthly trip to prove your innocense.

psuper81
Mar 28, 2014 01:32

Hi, I would like more info on posssibly living there and I.E. Renting..I have traveled alot and know to make it do as the locals do :0....I want to come this summer...any help is appreciated' Kelly

NA67
Mar 6, 2015 14:44

Good gereral information !!!! I to am looking to possibly retire in Ukraine, my wife is from Odessa. We are just hoping the situation gets betterbefore I retie from my work.

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