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Did you receive any cross-cultural training for your move abroad? If yes, was it before or after the move?
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If they speak another language in your new country, do you speak the language? If yes, did you learn the language before you moved or while abroad? If no, are you planning to learn the language?
I learned it while I was living there - although after 8 years, I am still not fluent!
Were you worried or concerned about culture shock before you moved abroad?
No, I had moved to several other European countries before, but Italy was a dream come true.
How significant was the culture shock you experienced when you moved abroad?
I had a huge honeymoon phase - since living in Rome had always been a dream of mine. But the honeymoon ended as soon as I picked up the kids from school everyday - it was a hard place to live with 2 small kids.
Expats often talk about going through the "stages of culture shock." Examples include the honeymoon phase, the irritation-to-anger stage, the rejection of the culture stage, and the cultural adjustment phase. Do you feel like you went through these or any other stages as you settled into the new culture?
I went through all of these phases. My biggest mistake was not embracing the culture fully - bit trying to compare and contrast everything with my American culture and seeking out English speaking friends. If I had thrown myself into the Italian culture and languge from the beginning, I would have had an easier transition and would have been happier.
What, if any, were some of the changes you noticed in yourself that might have been caused by culture shock? These might include things such as anger, depression, anxiety, increased eating or drinking, frustration, homesickness, etc.
I had increased anger and anxiety. I also felt guilty for being away from my family in the States - taking my parents' two granddaughters away from them was hard.
What are some things you appreciate most about the new culture?
I absolutely love the simple, fun, passionate lifestyle that the Italians embrace. I have been lkiving in Venice for the last 4 years and love the lifestyle there too - very family oriented.
What are the most challenging aspects of the new culture?
The language continues to be a struggle now that my children attend the local Italian school and all the meetings and paperwork are in Italian. I also long for meaningful friendships with the Italians, but my vocabulary is still too limited to have in depth conversations. My kids are fluent and I so envy them!
Did you "commit" any embarrassing or humorous cultural blunders? If you did and you'd like to share them, please do tell!
I have had a few emotional outbursts where I yell and scream in English out of frustration or compare the way things are done in the States, quite loudly, openly putting down the Italian way. So embarassing! I have since learned not to do that!
Do you have any advice or thoughts about culture shock you would like to share?
Please don't compare your new culture to your own - there's a reason you left yours - so embrace the differences! Learn the language as soon as possible - immerse yourself in it, make friends with the locals, send your kids to the local school, learn local recipes and customs - you will get so much more out of the culture that way!!!
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I am looking for any feedback on obtaining an Italian Drivers License during the first year in Italy. While I speak fluent Italian, my wife does not. Any insights on the process or Italian Driving Schools that work with individuals who are not fluent in the language? I have also read that some expats"fly under the radar" on this which seems risky and would prevent you from legally buying car. Thoughts?
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My wife and I are about to move to italy where a company is going to sponsor me for a visa. I would be a contractor for them and would like to understand better how taxation works. We will be living there for the 7 years to get full citizenship.
Income as a contractor would be 130k euro. I understand that Italy has a tax agreement with the USA but I dont completely understand how it works. Since it is over $100k, it would be the italian tax rate of 43%, but how does that apply to USA taxes? Also what about the social security? I read it could be about 10.5% as well?
So roughly my net income would be:
130000 - 69500 (53.5%) = 60500 euro?
Is this enough to live on in Italy? We would own our home and vehicle. It would be a very comfortable income in the USA but we dont have nearly the tax rate as Italy does.
Do we pay the USA taxes also? Or is the taxes we pay in Italy a credit to what we would typically pay in the USA?
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First post..just joined up
I have this crazy idea of buying a run down or cheap place in Sicily to retire to in about 6 years time,so just started looking around now. Based in UK so maybe flying out for a few days in November to check out further.
I visited for the first time this year and loved it being a big fan of Montalbano & Arancini!
Been checking out some blogs and noting the plusses and cons of moving over!
I noted the 1 Euro places in Gangi a while back but obviously these are extremes but as my budget is very small about 30k Euros in total, there do seem a large selection of properties up to around that total, obviously requiring renovations.
I have been looking online at places like Gangi, Montalbano Elicona, San Piero Patti across to Castelbueno and even down as far as Palazzolo Acreide, which I visted earlier this year.
I am under no illusion of it like being on holiday and I would have to learn the language as well so any advice would be welcome and thoughts on the areas that I mentioned or indeed other places that you think might be of interest?
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