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Bckenney
  5/14/2017 00:51 EST

I am a new member. I have been reading through the various posts and have become somewhat discouraged. Of everyone here, who has been turned away or threatened with being sent back?

DebAckley
  5/14/2017 17:59 EST

Here is our story...we tried to retire to Ireland ( I have dual citizenship), we ended up returning to the States as we couldn't get a mortgage...just a small one even. The banks would not consider our teacher pensions or SS as income. My husband needed to check in with the Garda in Co Kerry every 3 months with me, we needed our long form of our marriage certificate.
When we were living outside of Kenmare, Kerry, a woman was told to leave the country as she wasn't an Irish citizen or had the 50,000K to stay. Everyone was upset as she was an upstanding folk. Another family had bought a house in Co. Clare and was given 7 days to leave for similar reasons..they returned to Oz.
You didn't say if you are looking for employment or your age. In IE, mortgages also need to be paid off by 65 ( we are 62).
Just like the States, IE wants to insure that those coming to the country will not be a burden to the State.

KevinfromKinsaleviaNYC
  5/14/2017 19:28 EST

I believe Ireland operates their immigration policy differently from much of the EU. Since Ireland is not a Schengen country, the rules are unclear - at least to me - regarding how long a non-EEA person must remain outside of Ireland after their 90 days expires. So, I would be worried about the Garda's ability to deny a person entry especially if they appear to be coming to Ireland often. Also, although a typical visa waiver allows a person to stay in Ireland for 90 days, the Garda reportedly has a lot of power to deny admission or limit admission without regard to these customary rules if they have suspicions of intent to remain or for other reasons. In practice, I cannot say how often people are turned away or told they only have limited time to stay but I know it has happened to at least one person who has posted in this forum.

Bckenney
  5/14/2017 22:05 EST

I am 43 with a pension and medical insurance that would enable me to live. I would like to know that once I move, I will not have to return to the States.

Meachair54
  5/15/2017 06:39 EST

Hello ,
It all depends if you meet the requirements of the Irish government . ( 50,000 a year per person in income each year and triple that in your savings account and medical insurance which you say you have . Finally a background check ) Good Luck !!!

Bckenney
  5/15/2017 09:01 EST

I don't have the savings requirement, but I have a permanent income over 50,000 euros. And the medical insurance. Background check will not be an issue. I had to do one for where I currently have residency (Costa Rica).

Muddled
  5/15/2017 13:28 EST

There are several threads on this and other expat sites in relation to your query. If you do not have EU residency, living in Ireland will be extremely. What I recall from posts in relation to this is that pensions aren't considered income.

DebAckley
  5/15/2017 14:32 EST

Check inis.gov.ie. If you do not have Irish citizenship ( dual), the limit is 3 months stay and you can't just leave for a couple of weeks and then come back....I want to say it's 6 months...but I am not sure.

Meachair54
  5/15/2017 16:36 EST

Hello,
Pensions are not considered income , like social security when it comes to showing income when going for mortgage on a house. Pensions count toward the 50,000 in annual income.

Bckenney
  5/15/2017 19:43 EST

Thank you very much

Joshuak
  5/15/2017 20:15 EST

DebAckley: Did you go with your Husband to Immigration officer (Garda) and register him as your spouse ? In order to do that you would need 2 things in addition to Irish passport. Proof of Marriage and proof of permanent residence. It can be a rental. You can not get it with a hotel address. If you had all this, he should have been given a ONE YEAR Residence card which is renewable. I would highly recommend renting for at least one year while one looks to see if they wish to stay and certainly before one would even think about buying. Visa waiver people must leave after a stay of 90 days and is supposed to be able to return after 90 days away. Except, I believe you cannot go to the UK which includes Northern Ireland for that 90 days. I think that is some agreement with the UK called "Common travel area". There are a few Irish that do not agree with you and I having dual citizenship. Among those are probably a few Garda Officers that also do not care for that status. But you would be surprised how quickly they warm up if you can tell them about your Mother or Grand Father who was born there by just making "small talk". Or about your cousin that still lives in Ireland. Your Husband and you have a legal right to be together in any EU country. It is a part of EU law that Ireland agreed to when they joined.

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