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Joaozinh
1/10/2017 11:02 EST

I am currently seeking information concerning retirement in Brasil. I have been married to a Brasileira for 10 years now. We got married in Brasil so everything is registered there. My concerns are living in Brasil without worrying about the amount of time I can stay in the country.

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pensadenos
1/10/2017 18:24 EST

Joaozinh, I have had my Retirement Visa or CIE with no expiration for about 18 months and live in the NE of Brazil in Rio Grande Do Norte. You don't say where you are currently. I am from the USA and I had a Permanent Resident Visa that had just expired about a year before I applied for the retirement visa. You can go onto the Policia Federal website, locate applications for RNE. For retirement, Brazil requires that you be at least 60 years of age and have a retirement income of no less than $2,000.00 USD per month. We just assisted a couple from Norway obtain their retirement visa and it is not all that complicated. File out the paperwork on-line, set an appointment at your local Policia Federal that processes these requests and then go to he appointment. You will be directed to get 2 passport photos, copies of your passport with all pages, pay about R$264.00 for processing and make another appointment. At the 2nd appointment they will finger print you, take your photo, and take all paperwork and photos from you that you obtained after the 1st appointment...........REALLY IMPORTANT....At the 1st appointment asked the person processing you to print out a bileto for the R$264 payment as the website doesn't work when you ask it to provide the bileto. The bileto has he all important bar code on it so that you can make the payment at the bank.

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OutOfHereUSA
1/10/2017 19:01 EST

Things changed drastically in 2014
You can apply for a perm visa RNE at the Federal police and they have a new expedited RNE program, takes only a few months
You can stay indefinitely while it's being processed
IF you leave Brasil for more than 2 years it cancels but you can apply for multiple RNE's if you need to

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Joaozinh
1/10/2017 19:39 EST

Pensadenos,
Thanks so much for all of the information! This is very helpful. I am still living in the U.S. But am planning to live with my wife in Minas Gerais. We will be moving sometime next year. I am doing research now to avoid the unknowns further down the line. I am sure I will be asking more questions in the future.

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Joaozinh
1/10/2017 19:40 EST

Outofhereusa,
Thanks for the post! Very helpful!

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pensadenos
1/10/2017 22:26 EST

Try and minimize the amount of house hold items that you bring into Brazil. Although with a retirement visa, the items are tax free to bring into the country but the cost of a container and shipping it to Brazil is very, very expensive.

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OutOfHereUSA
1/10/2017 22:35 EST

You're very welcome
I got mine in about a month because I had one years ago
The Federal Police people are so professional and nice, they'll help you figure out the forms.
Believe it costs about R$300 total paid online. Good luck

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OutOfHereUSA
1/10/2017 22:42 EST

BTW ... since you are married, there is NO reason to go for a retirement visa, being married is enough - don't complicate it.
And like I tell everyone, DON'T import A THING except for your clothes and small personal stuff. Brasil has beautiful furniture, every appliance you'll ever need, nice clothes and more.
Right now the reai is in YOUR favor so things will be less.
Have a big garage sale and donate your 'stuff' to a good charity.
IF you're going to LIVE in BRASIL, you gotta LOOK like a Brasilian, not a gringo !

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aaronbennis
1/11/2017 07:58 EST

The most simple instructions, and pertinent advice thus far. Hopefully BTW knows how to "read".

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Joaozinh
1/11/2017 11:14 EST

Thanks for the info! We have a lot to learn concerning our move.

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Marlington
1/24/2017 08:37 EST

Hello!

If you are married to a Brazilian national you can stay in the country with no time restrictions whatsoever.

You should make an appointment with the Brazilian Consulate in your region. They have all the information you may possibly need.

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exnyer
5/22/2017 10:01 EST

By now you are probably here in Brasil, my apologies for my tardy reply. I retired here 3 years ago from the USA so, here is my advice to anyone who might find it of use.

SHIP YOUR STUFF HERE. Furniture here is uncomfortable, you will need your tools and toys. The cost and quality of things here are on opposite sides of the spectrum.

If possible buy your home. before moving here. Prepare your nest, so to speak.

People here TALK. Your presence here will be known. Don't be gaudy in your dress (too much jewelry for ex.) but you don't have to bum it up either. Learn the language as soon as you can, the locals like that. Learn to be friendly, but avoid trying to keep up with the drinking.

Understand that not all Brasilians are accepting of "rich" retired foreigners but do not surrender who you are to that minority.

It is interesting to note that NO ONE here calls us "gringos". That honor seems to fall to those who like to be insulted for who they are.

Good Luck and welcome to Brasil.

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OutOfHereUSA
5/22/2017 10:38 EST

Waste of time going to your embassy in the US. Get into BR and go straight to the Federal Police and apply for your RNE there. You will have it in 2 months.
Brasilians are people too and they don't have boulders for furniture. You can buy the nicest furniture in the world there. Your furniture from the US will look like trash compared to what you can find in Brasil. VERY high class beautiful. DON'T BRING IT ! An absolute WASTE OF MONEY.
Depends where you will be living as to how you will be treated. Many upper class areas have people who think they are better than you and you are garbage, arrogant pigs. Avoid the yuppie areas. I think living in a small town is best. The poor people will treat you the best if you are nice to them.

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Brazil16
5/22/2017 21:49 EST

I want to do permanent retire visa what documents do I need to bring from the USA. To apply at the Federal Police.. I like a list if possible thank

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Brazil16
5/22/2017 21:55 EST

What did you supply to prove your income. Is that all they need to process your retirement visa. Do they need letters from the company that are paying you.

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Brazil16
4/8/2019 23:19 EST

My update on my Permanent Residency. They changed the law no more Retirement Permanent Residency now 2019. It happens at the end of 2017 I think November or December was last time it was available. You had to be in progress . I did get Permanent Residency I was married to a Brazilian woman. It was very easy and took 4 month to get final card. May 2018. When directly throw the federal Police. Sorry for the bad news about No Retirement Permanent Residency.

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pensadenos
4/9/2019 11:13 EST

Although they did away with the permanent resident Visa as we knew it, they did replace it with another. If a foreigner makes a purchase on a house of (I believe if my memory serves me correctly) R$700k (R$350K in the NE of Brazil) and then remain in Brazil for 30 days after the purchase then you get a permanent residence.

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