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tammytravels
  8/11/2019 12:12 EST

So what happens if you have a spousal visa, and the wife decides she wants a divorce (or maybe just wants to leave since most Colombians just go their separate ways)? Are you going to be deported? or can you stay here anyway? I can't remember ever seeing this Q here.

guestuser
  8/11/2019 12:39 EST

The issue with visa questions is that recently the visa rules have changed significantly so answers aren’t often simple. I presume the spouse has one of the old TP-10 visas. That was a migrant visa but did allow residency to be applied for after a period of three years. The new visa has a shorter waiting period.

So if the spouse has met the waiting period my thought would be that they should now apply for residency. If they haven’t met the waiting period it may be more complicated.

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tammytravels
  8/11/2019 13:57 EST

So, if they have their permanent residency, they will be able to stay even if divorced from their wife? I didn't find anything saying the wife had to sign any more documents when the cedula is renewed after the initial 5 years. Of course, she very well may do something evil to keep him from staying here if she can. I think he has the newer spousal visa, but not sure. It shouldn't make a difference however if he already has his permanent visa, right? She wants to live in the US, and he is adamant he is not going to do it. He's been here about 6 years I think.

guestuser
  8/11/2019 14:27 EST

Residency visa, other than renewing the cedula and the passport stamp are indefinite.

The migratory visas are sort of a temporary holding visa. The new spousal visa is like it’s predecessor a migratory visa. So, I don’t think it’s permanent.

I think you need to clarify what visa he has. If he has the new spousal visa he must have got it in the past two years, and his waiting time for residency then becomes two years. It’s possible that he might have renewed the original visa if he’s been here six years. The old one would have expired and therefore it could have been renewed. However if that’s the case I would have thought he’d taken the bad option, he could have qualified for the more valuable residency visa.

Perhaps the answer is not how long he’s been here but how long he’s been married or has had the spousal visa. Presumably all the time has been spent in Colombia.

I’m not an expert on Colombian divorce law, thankfully, but one thing she can do is not agree to the divorce. That might make it more difficult for him.

tammytravels
  8/11/2019 14:50 EST

She wants the divorce since he won't take her to the states to live. She went on one vacation of 3 months, and has been a nut ever since. She can't figure out why he wants to stay here when there is so much "shopping" in the US.
I'm telling you, don't be taking your wives to the states or you'll never hear the end of it (unless you have a sensible, loving wife who totally respects your decision to live here.)
He's had his permanent residency for about 2 years.

guestuser
  8/11/2019 15:03 EST

Well I think if he has permanent residency he doesn’t have a spousal visa anymore. So even with a divorce he’s free to stay here. That doesn’t mean of course that any divorce will be fun or that there might not be other ways of messing with him outside any immigration question.

On Colombian spouses there are plenty, who despite having seen the gaudy pleasures of North America and Europe, are happy to stay here. Elderly parents needing care being just one reason.

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Electricista
  8/11/2019 15:12 EST

Even if one is separated the marriage visa is still valid until it expires or until the divorce is final.

SkyMan
  8/11/2019 16:32 EST

Tammy...in the years I have spent here in Colombia...I have heard
countless stories about the husband taking his Colombiana to the States...and once she is "gringo-ized" it seems there is no turning back from the "Let's move to the U.S." dialogue, which happens daily/weekly/monthly. It all sounds like a great trip the the America, but when it explodes, well...it was not exactly a great idea. Buena Suerte !

guestuser
  8/11/2019 18:16 EST

It’s hardly a secret that many Gringo males come down here and play the (comparative) wealth card to attract younger and more beautiful women then they could in their home country.

All of this ‘they really like older men’ or ‘They’re attracted because Gringos treat them better’ is basically BS.

Many women here have a very hard time financially and for them a Gringo and his wallet represents a way out of poverty.

If Gringo’s are going to play the ‘wealth’ card to attract women then they could at least admit it rather than identifying it as some character flaw in Colombian women. If you dangle money in front of poor women don’t complain when they want more.

Remember 50% of the population here lives in $250 a month or less. Some women raise families on that amount. And you don’t expect the wealth of the US to be attractive to them?

Elexpatriado
  8/12/2019 00:36 EST

Somehow I think " Tammy" is talking about himself..

Very entertaining..

If she wont play tje game, just get another.one..
.

And dont marry her..just shack up..works as well.

Lots of desperate Venezuelanas pu
Out there..lots pf Comombians are dumping their wives for the less demanding Venezuelan version
.

Elexpatriado
  8/12/2019 00:53 EST

I would just ignore her..and she keeps going on about the US and the divorce thing..just give her a bit of her own medicine and kick her a$$ out in the street..

https://youtu.be/2WKvvJxn7fM

You some soy boy gettin.pu$$y whipped by an uneducated unsophisticated barrio girl..

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tammytravels
  8/12/2019 08:18 EST

Elexpatriado

"Tammy" is not a "himself", and as some have pointed out on various occasions, you are wrong. Hmmmm

I find that what people think others are doing is actually what they do themselves. When I talk about myself, I use the first person pronoun "I", which I did not do in this case. Maybe you need to brush up on your English grammar.

tammytravels
  8/12/2019 08:18 EST

Elexpatriado

"Tammy" is not a "himself", and as some have pointed out on various occasions, you are wrong. Hmmmm

I find that what people think others are doing is actually what they do themselves. When I talk about myself, I use the first person pronoun "I", which I did not do in this case. Maybe you need to brush up on your English grammar.

Elexpatriado
  8/12/2019 11:27 EST

Another English lit major or maybe a gender studies major.LOL

Dont tale it seriously Tammy..I sure dont.

Just "mamando gallo"..taking the piss out of you..as the Brits say..

Dont really care if you are talking about yourself or someone else

Cheers..have a great day!!

Elexpatriado
  8/12/2019 11:34 EST

BTW..tell it to Gabriel Garcia Marquez..he wrote in the third person about personal experiences as well and so would be surprised to hear his Spanish grammar was incorrect.

So if you are writing sbout yourself,..your are in goid company, from a linguistic and grammatical.point of view.

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