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Paco23
  5/6/2020 23:10 EST

Here is a video I found interesting https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=IsuCa6V7prg I think there are some interesting points made in the video and definitely has given me some rabbit holes to investigate further. I figured some of you would have interesting comments.

srhsnh1807
  5/7/2020 08:05 EST

"This video has been removed for violating YouTube's Community Guidelines."

Your "betters" at youtube can't tolerate alternative points. It's dangerous to allow others to see this kind of dangerous content. You're not allowed to think for yourself.

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LaPiranha
  5/7/2020 12:06 EST

What was so controversial about it? Can anyone give us a brief resume?

Andresen
  5/7/2020 12:35 EST

Video has been removed by Youtube.

mattinnorfolk
  5/7/2020 15:18 EST

The Dr. was Judy Mikovits. You can Google of information about her but they took down the video

Elexpatriado
  5/7/2020 17:12 EST

Probably same guys that brought us the black death ,Justinian Plague, Hong Kong Flu, Asian Flu (2 of which many of us lived through were worse than COVID19, but nobody remembers)

Funny, they didnt lock everybody down and cause mass hysteria (other than the first 2) and nobody even thought of "conspiracy theories" in those days.

https://www.mphonline.org/worst-pandemics-in-history/

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Elexpatriado
  5/7/2020 17:14 EST

Even if it is a crazy BS conspiracy theory..I am gettingsick of YouTube censoring everything..as if paople cant think for themselves.

WhoaNellie
  5/7/2020 17:15 EST

This appears to be a balanced story reporting of what it's about:

https://www.pennlive.com/nation-world/2020/05/who-is-judy-mikovits-and-what-does-she-have-to-do-with-anthony-fauci-and-the-coronavirus.html

From the article: “The Plandemic,” a 25-minute clip from an upcoming documentary, was taken off of YouTube this week for violating the Google-owned video site’s community guidelines. The video centered on Dr. Judy Mikovits, a former chronic fatigue researcher who claims the federal government is behind a “plague of corruption” to inflate profits from a potential vaccine even as COVID-19 threatens lives.

Elexpatriado
  5/7/2020 17:15 EST

TRy Bichute

Elexpatriado
  5/7/2020 17:16 EST

Sounds boring any way

JustLookingThanks
  5/7/2020 17:25 EST

"profits" - being cash - why would the federal government need to do anything other than raise taxes, borrow at record low rates, or turn on the printing presses?

Why would they need a pandemic?

Sorry, doesn't pass the BS test for me. YMMV, etc.

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Quindita
  5/7/2020 17:40 EST

Try this one- Published on April 27th, it's 100% worth taking the time to watch/listen to. You may need to subscribe to access but it is only adding your email address.
It's too bad it's so long at over two hours but the last half hour can be skipped.
The podcast is easier to listen to while continuing with tasks around the house.
I don't agree with everything he says especially around Trump where he totally loses me but you can see he is highly intelligent and he has uncovered some interesting information.
https://londonreal.tv/digital-freedom-platform-interview-1-dr-rashid-buttar/

WhoaNellie
  5/7/2020 18:21 EST

Dr. Rashid Buttar - his first Wiki paragraph is:

"Rashid Ali Buttar (born January 20, 1966) is an American osteopathic physician, conspiracy theorist, and anti-vaccine proponent from Charlotte, North Carolina.[1] He is known for his controversial use of chelation therapy for numerous conditions, including autism and cancer.[2] He has twice been reprimanded by the North Carolina Board of Medical Examiners for unethical treatment of patients[3][4] and cited by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for illegal marketing of unapproved and adulterated drugs.[5][6][7]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashid_Buttar

It goes on:

"Buttar claims to be board certified by several entities,[10] all of which are listed as “questionable organizations” by Quackwatch including the American Academy of Preventative Medicine, American Academy of Integrative Medicine, and American College for Advancement in Medicine; the latter’s primary purpose being the promotion of chelation therapy.[11]"

Quindita
  5/7/2020 18:27 EST

WN
Of course I have read all of that.
Listen to the pod cast and then decide for yourself instead of relying on the mud slinging. - it's a much more interesting conversation.

Andresen
  5/7/2020 18:37 EST

Sounds impressive to me. Quack quack quack.

ponymalta2
  5/7/2020 18:38 EST

Quindita

That website appears to traffic in either complete nonsense, or wild speculation for which it will be sometime before an intelligent analysis can even speculate let alone from opinions that have any degree of probability. I was recommended by someone to watch a show on that channel last week as a 'must watch' item and it was complete nonsense, and I could see why at this time the government would prefer banned.

i saw a show recently that gave a psychological analysis about otherwise intelligent people who were attracted to conspiracy theories,.

much about corona virus just sheer speculation about the extent of disagreement, among experts, different governments, on what often dubious statistics or ones that are not standard in country comparisons. we will know more in the future, but wasting time on conspiracy theories just pollutes the brain.

Blenheim
  5/7/2020 18:51 EST

People should remember in Indian and Pakistani cultures this sort of mindset is not unusual in their medical field.

Quindita
  5/7/2020 19:43 EST

I am not a big conspiracy theory person and that's a red flag to me and off point.
I am merely suggesting that people with an open mind review the timeline points which are presented in this interview and form their own opinions surrounding this situation..
He says many interesting things worth thinking about such as Dr Fauci's involvement from the beginning, the history of Corona, the Gates Foundation taking out the patents on Corona n November and then speaks to the general health questions which have always surrounded 5G . It all adds up to a lot of different shiite but it would be incredibly naive to believe there is one group out there pulling all the strings.. There is a lot at play. Regarding the virus and the media's fear mongering, that's another sad story. Just saying- keep an open mind
It doesn't even mention in the interview about the origins of the so called corona virus 'test' which was developed, I believe in the 1980's, and tests for a much more general corona which most of us already carry.

nonames
  5/7/2020 20:14 EST

Hey Q,
Just curious & don't mind asking since the topic opened up a bit: Why do you say: "...it would be incredibly naive to believe there is one group out there pulling all the strings."

WhoaNellie
  5/8/2020 00:05 EST

Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by incompetence...

ponymalta2
  5/8/2020 01:13 EST

WhoaNellie

thank you for posting some info on the apparent quack rashid. not sure why it would be worth one minute let alone two hours listening to him. it isnt a question of having an open mind but avoiding nonsense.

Paco23
  5/8/2020 08:31 EST

I think there will be all kinds of quacks and conspiracy theory folks jumping in on this but there are other people who I assume are more knowledgeable about this than I am. I am not a virologist but there are some other pieces of information that indicate there may be some other theories about how this came about. If anyone is relying on the Government’s version (either the US, or the CPC) and you are happy with what they are telling you then be happy. I do not believe all the info is being made to the public. But there could be more to this than some guy in China ate a bat for breakfast and sneezed on some other people.

WhoaNellie
  5/8/2020 11:18 EST

The most credible explanation for me so far, taking into account that the virus appears to have come from a horseshoe bat which is not found within hundreds of miles of Wuhan and which was not sold in the market, is that the coronavirus was being worked on, studied, in the Wuhan lab and escaped due to sloppy control procedures.

It was not necessarily being developed as a biological weapon, but nevertheless spread quickly just due to its contagious nature and unsanitary conditions in the "wet market".

China tried some drastic measures to contain it but it was too little too late - plus by their nature as a totalitarian regime they tried harder to cover it up than to contain it, and lied about their efforts and the possible origin of the virus, destroying records and even disappearing several scientists and researchers who may have been able and willing to share important information.

The rest is just the natural spread around the world, with different governments reacting differently but many taking steps that made it worse - in the USA, for instance, Governor Cuomo of New York sent COVID-19 infected elderly people back to nursing homes, where it predictably infected many hundreds of others and resulted in many extra deaths.

The errors were compounded by relying on models whose predictions had nothing to do with reality, and by making stupid decisions to close some businesses but not others, and fiascos like at the start where some "experts" said masks don't help but other "experts" said they did, and the California governor buying defective masks from China at premium prices.

It's still unclear if many in the USA had not already been exposed to the coronavirus as early as last December, when anecdotally many people reported having flu-like symptoms that were mild and soon passed. Many argue now that millions and millions in the USA have already been exposed and that for the vast majority of people the coronavirus is like the "normal" flu but perhaps more contagious, and that the coronavirus is most dangerous to the elderly who also have underlying conditions - to others especially the very young, not so much.

There's a lot we will never know and I'm not sure that the speculation helps any, but it's always entertaining...

Quindita
  5/8/2020 11:47 EST

The link is for people who prefer to think for themselves and do their own research, not for the negative name callers who rely on 2nd hand information and wikipedia for their information.
London Real is a 10 year old forum for free speech and has topics on all kinds of diverse and controversial subjects. You do not need to agree with what is put forth, but know that the individual interviews are not edited and censored like Tedtalks for example. There is a lot of very good information as well as some waco opinions of course.
Dr Buttar has been bashed for his work using chelation therapy for the treatment of cancer however many innovative and legitimate cancer treatments are bashed backed by the great pharmaceutical lobbyists- not news. Chelation therapy is a legitimate form of removing toxins from the body. Cancer is known to thrive in a toxic environment which brings us back to 5G and what is about to come down the pipeline.
Nonames, you ask Why do you say: "...it would be incredibly naive to believe there is one group out there pulling all the strings."
Well, it's just a personal opinion but the way I understand humans in general is that people use other people to get what they want.
Each of the players has their own unique agenda- they may come together at times when they have a common purpose but to think that there could actually be one cohesive ongoing master plan orchestrated by a group of individuals from international backgrounds just makes no sense to me. Even two people find it hard to maintain longterm agreements let alone a conspiratorial group on a larger scale.
Even one person masterminding a thing like this would be incredulous although of course there are many mini Hitler's out there and always the possibility.
I see it more as a series of related events each promoted for individual gain, piggy backing on each other and roller coasting into chaos with the help of the mainstream media.

canpandave
  5/8/2020 12:15 EST

Sure brings em out.....

Paco23
  5/8/2020 12:28 EST

@quindita I think some people are quick to label others, especially a doctor who may think a “controversial” type of treatment such as Chelation therapy for cancer may be beneficial. ( I won’t mention Vitamin C as a possible treatment) but I think many on this forum would benefit from watching and listening to other points of view, most are smart enough to know what is conspiracy theories and what might be based on other information.

Paco23
  5/8/2020 12:31 EST

I would like to add, if this was not a government conspiracy why would they have minted these now? https://www.usmint.gov/coins/coin-medal-programs/america-the-beautiful-quarters/national-park-of-american-samoa

———-wink wink

Elexpatriado
  5/8/2020 13:42 EST

WhoNellie said:


"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by incompetence..."

We have the "Dope of the Day" contest.

Should be the "Quote of the Day" contest as well

And that one wins the "quote of the Day" for Today (or yesterday?)

Elexpatriado
  5/8/2020 13:58 EST

In my opinion, from th elittle I have seen here, the guy is a quack, and the video would be boring as hell, and sounds politically motivated.

But by the same token, why should YouTube remove it just because some prople ar so easily brainwashed.?

Go ahead with your conspiracy theories people, freedom of choice and expression.

As far as the Virus, dont know or care if it originated in a lab, or bat, or cockroach, but I dont think China would purposely launch it, killing their own people and destroying the overseas market for all their goods.

I think it just got out of control, they covered it up, hoping it would go away, to keep their world trade and economy going, , like a kid that smashes a window with abaseball, and said a bird did it,

Then when it gets out of conrol, and it is apparent they covered it up, they continue to lie, to save face, just like a spoiled child.

Like WhoaNellie said

Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by incompetence...

Although the level of lieing and coverup of China definitely has a high level of malice involved , but there is no Bio-weapon conspiracy scenario that ocurred.

pocopelo
  5/8/2020 14:22 EST

@WN you've made a very thought provoking post. Thank you

Paco23
  5/8/2020 14:48 EST

This post didn’t make it through but can someone tell me why the government minted this coin? And why they did it now?

JustLookingThanks
  5/8/2020 17:38 EST

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/93597a/plandemic-viral-nonsense-judi-mikovits-plague-of-corruption

Great takedown on this nonsense on vice.com

Can we now return to reality?

Quindita
  5/8/2020 17:47 EST

what exactly does Mikovits have to do with this thread?

Andresen
  5/8/2020 17:54 EST

Interesting. I think i read that American Samoa is the only US territory without a coronavirilus case. You think they are rubbing it in?

Paco23
  5/8/2020 19:02 EST

Well if we are looking to Vice for fact based news we should consider https://youtu.be/3bXWGxhd7ic the timeline mentioned around 30 minutes is interesting to say the least.

ponymalta2
  5/8/2020 20:47 EST

JustLookingThanks

Maybe there should be a vaccine against people passing on links to the latest conspiracy theory.

I must admit I cannot fathom how literate people with even a minimum IQ take all these silly conspiracy theories as anything but trivia as important as I wonder why the wind blew a window shut.

Paco23
  5/17/2020 00:15 EST

As more and more evidence comes to light I think we will see China may not have created the Virus but they definitely covered it up and allowed it to spread to other countries. They may have done this as a way to level the playing field. The information is out there if you search for it.

Epicatt2
  5/17/2020 02:49 EST

Conspiracy Theories abound, oh, my!


Ahhh, the joy of confirmation bias!!


Bueno, a los duendes que no les den pábula . . .


(Solamente mis dos granitos de arena.)

Andresen
  5/17/2020 08:20 EST

China "covered it up" and the US "ignored it". I don't see much of a difference except one came before the other.

Paco23
  5/17/2020 08:44 EST

@andresen how did the us ignore it?

JustSomeGuy
  5/17/2020 08:49 EST

There is a huge difference.

If the USA ignores a disease that is killing US citizens that is bad for the US.

If China covers up a disease and allows it to spread without warning to Colombia that will cause economic ruin in Colombia and many direct deaths.

And Italy and France and Brazil and India and ....

Furthermore, if China says there is no human to human transmission and someone is fool enough to believe them, then the fool will not be concerned about the disease. If it isn’t contagious it isn’t a big problem. That is one of the lies China told to fool Colombia and the rest of the world.

JustSomeGuy
  5/17/2020 09:59 EST

Kind of like the difference between suicide and murder. They both leave a dead body but I’d rather have a suicidal neighbor than a homicidal one.
Or stupidity and malice, they can both hurt you but stupidity is more forgivable.

Andresen
  5/17/2020 10:36 EST

JSG. Did you consider that if the US ignored the disease then tourists would continue to travel to Colombia and spread the disease here? "...will cause economic ruin in Colombia and many direct deaths."

Andresen
  5/17/2020 10:47 EST

Paco23. May I submit the following facts: 1) January 31, 2020: Trump imposes travel restrictions on China.--- 2) February 4th, In his State of the Union address, Trump pledged to “take all necessary steps” to protect Americans from the coronavirus. ---3) February 7, Trump tells reporters that the CDC is working with China on the coronavirus. ---4) February 24 Trump administration sends a letter to Congress requesting between $1.8 billion and $2.5 billion - to combat the coronavirus. ---March 17 Trump: “This is a pandemic and I called it a pandemic long before anyone called it a pandemic.”--- My question is. What actions did Trump take from the end of January to the middle of March to address the coronavirus in the US?

Vikingo
  5/17/2020 11:13 EST

I'm not andresen but the US ignored the virus by letting planes from China fly into the country.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/disaster-motion-34-million-travelers-poured-us-coronavirus/story?id=69933625

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/04/us/coronavirus-china-travel-restrictions.html

ponymalta2
  5/17/2020 11:27 EST

Paco23

and maybe when evidence comes to light we learn that Iran through Congolese proxies decided to infect America through China.

that china may have covered up my mistake or intent we simply don't know at present, but on the surface hardly believable with so many mouths to feed they would want to decimate their markets.

SkyMan
  5/17/2020 11:37 EST

Hmmmmm..........Lots of Interesting stuff Here. But Will We Ever Know the Truth ? Hardly.....We Rarely Ever Know The-Whole-Story. Only those in power Know. Stay Well. Buena Suerte !

Paco23
  5/17/2020 12:49 EST

@pm2 then we have to dig in and get a better understanding of the Chinese Communist Party. I am not an expert but I have looked into China a bit and I think they are not above throwing a few million of their own under the bus. Secondly I believe they have a different strategy than most of us would assume in their desire to gain power and level the playing field on a global scale. I do not buy into everything written in the unrestricted warfare book but I think they had an event that they could have handled differently and instead chose to attempt to capitalize on it by letting the virus spread and causing economic damage to the rest of the world. They may have perpetuated things by buying up all the PPE beforehand and giving the WHO a nudge to say this is not transmitted person to person. US officials have even said publicly China covered it up.

Andresen
  5/17/2020 13:19 EST

Paco. I had to reread your post to ensure you were talking about China. It sure sounded like you were referring to the US.

Blenheim
  5/17/2020 16:22 EST

Colombia is an economic mess.-----
Unless a turnaround would not be surprised if Duque might be in trouble in 2 years.. When one sees Autogermania advertising on tucarro, one never saw that before,

JustSomeGuy
  5/17/2020 22:17 EST

Yes I did consider that. Since the friendly Chinese Communist Party (CCP) and their WHO assured us there was no human to human transmission and travel was safe there was no reason to restrict travel. In fact the CCP told us it was racist to do so. But that is unimportant.

The important thing is that a well informed Colombia, a Colombia that had not been lied to by the CCP, would have taken steps to protect the people and would have avoided the mess they are currently in. Colombia would have stopped tourists from any nation that had allowed the virus to arrive from China. What the USA did does not affect that at all.

But Colombia was lied to by the CCP so they thought they were safe and did not protect themselves.

It was stupid of the Colombian government to believe the lies of the CCP. It disarmed the Colombian government and made them vulnerable.
It was stupid of Italy to believe the lies of the CCP.
It was stupid of France to believe the lies of the CCP.

I have friends in Colombia and their lives are at risk. I will make no excuses for the people who lied to them.

Lying to Colombia is indefensible you should give up.

Instead Perhaps you should try to defend the ongoing Tibetan genocide or the ongoing Uighur genocide. Or their fentanyl production efforts, that should be easy as it is used to kill tens of thousands of Americans each year. Maybe the repression of their own people would be an easy place to defend the CCP, they are busy and could use your help.

LaPiranha
  5/17/2020 23:11 EST

Blenheim. I guess all countries will be in an economic mess, especially those that are trying to help their people and businesses by giving them financial help. Not only Duque, but the governments of the USA, the UK, Italy, Spain, Germany et al, And their leaders are going to get the blame, no doubt about that, as the opposition parties are going to capitalise on it.

But as the saying goes,

Keep calm, and .....
..... keep printing more money.

Oh, I forgot, they now call it "quantitative easing" so that people don't think its printing more money. Silently, and without any fuss, and hopefully people won't realise.

Andresen
  5/18/2020 09:15 EST

Yes, China covered it up throughout January. But on January 20 the first U.S. case was reported in Washington state, a healthy 35-year-old nonsmoker who had just returned from Wuhan, China. After that the US "covered it up" or if you prefer "ignored it". Remember all the times our Dear Leader said things like "close to 0" and 'it's going to go away"?

Paco23
  5/18/2020 10:36 EST

@andresen. You sound as though you wholeheartedly disagree with anything the US has done in response to the virus. We probably have extremely opposing views of government responsibilities. ———@JSG you seems to have a much better understanding of the CCP than most.

SkyMan
  5/18/2020 11:00 EST

It seems that a lot of vitriol is coming from Terry at this time. Chill dude. You are still well....not diagnosed with it. Stay Well. Buena Suerte !

mattinnorfolk
  5/18/2020 11:30 EST

No kidding Terry, go look at Dr. Fauci’s quotes in late January. Trump has not been perfect at all, but was it really his job to know how much ppe and mask we have in stock? What do we have a cdc and national infectious health departments for? He did cancel China and Europe earliest, but he did screw up flying all of these USA citizens back and not making them quarantine if he had the authority.

mattinnorfolk
  5/18/2020 11:33 EST

I do think his federal reserve chair pick and Treasury guys gave done well. We should have closed earlier and reopened and be like Sweden.

yolatengo
  5/18/2020 12:47 EST

Politics again? It seems to invade almost every thread. Why am I the only one to incur nasty comments for even hinting of politics, haha.
Why not talk about Duque's handling of the crisis. This is Colombia.
Barbershops are open! At least in Medellin. Who is going to be first to test the waters? Trump?
Anyway, have fun.

ponymalta2
  5/18/2020 13:18 EST

Paco23

Sometimes the simplest answer, especially in absence of evidence, the mots explanatory.- though I realize some people like to engage in speculation of conspiracy theories.

What we know is apparently China through ignorance,inefficiency or simply public relations downplayed the risk of transmission of the disease. We do know worldwide almost every government has been criticized for how they handled the situation, and that there is much that is still unknown, and that all sorts of speculation generally by people unqualified to know much about a virus (even the experts seem to be still learning about).

As far as China deliberately acting to 'level the playing field' besides a lack of concrete evidence, on the surface seems totally illogical. The CCP stays in power through harsh methods of control, and keeping over a billion people fed and at work making money. Why on earth they would seek to hurt their own markets in such a way would need to be explained before even entertaining to spend a minute on such a theory. .

yolatengo
  5/18/2020 13:25 EST

https://youtu.be/5B62WP5ub-g

Bad Politics - Dead C

SkyMan
  5/18/2020 14:01 EST

yo.....It seems that you interpret any comment that does not agree with you as a "nasty comment". In a blog...many people share their viewpoints & yes, they are not the same viewpoint concerning any topic. We all have our own opinions and they are openly shared -via- a blog. It seems to be an important way of communication in our world. So if someone does not agree with your comments or anyone else's...it's not a "nasty comment"...it is merely a different point of view. Stay Well. Buena Suerte !

yolatengo
  5/18/2020 14:51 EST

skyman, your comments to me are *always* absurd. Who am I disagreeing with? Only people like you that make nasty comments like you did in the thread where I was criticized for remotely mentioning politics. I know that you think you know it all (especially from your comments on TripAdvisor) and I will undoubtedly take more flack for this, I don't care. You are a total hypocrite.
Go back to LA or get lost jogging in Medellin.
You criticized my spelling once for spelling Itagui wrong and I believe it was you who said I don't belong in Colombia as a result. Did you ever say anything to elex about his spelling? It is never ending criticism from you, most of which I ignore. What is your problem?
Cheers and super buena suerte.

JustSomeGuy
  5/18/2020 16:20 EST

‘or if you prefer "ignored it". ‘. This is disingenuous and frankly insulting. That is your phrase, not mine. I think the actions of the blowhard are completely irrelevant in Colombia’s situation, or Italy’s situation or Spain’s situation. A serious disease appeared in China, human to human transmission was observed, Chinese doctors and scientists tried to warn the rest of the world, the CCP stopped them and stifled the information, Colombia acted with missing information and lies instead of the truth. Leading to the mess and the endangerment of my friends. You defend the liars and shift blame to the fools who believed them.

When you defend the indefensible you go down a dark path. Really, you should consider not doing that. Don’t give cover for these people.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/06/world/asia/chinese-doctor-Li-Wenliang-coronavirus.html

https://www.businessinsider.com/china-coronavirus-whistleblowers-speak-out-vanish-2020-2?op=1#a-friend-of-xu-told-the-guardian-that-the-professor-was-placed-under-house-arrest-after-he-returned-to-beijing-following-the-lunar-new-year-celebration-1

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-02-06/coronavirus-china-xi-li-wenliang

SkyMan
  5/18/2020 17:40 EST

yo.....Such a display of Anger/Hostility/Desperation/Paranoia.
It's really not good for your mental outlook. Try being more Positive...It works wonders for having a good day. Stay Well. Buena Suerte !

yolatengo
  5/18/2020 19:46 EST

Jeez, you are so not worth this.

ponymalta2
  5/19/2020 09:27 EST

Hot off the YouTube Press- camorra mafia colluded with China to spread the virus in Italy so it would reach America and trash Trump's chances for re-election to get Biden in office so less pressure on China's trade practices, while Russia colluded with Trump to spread virus to get Trump re-elected by showing his leadership skills- while world leaders had secret corona report indicating no one knew what to do but better to pretend at each stage they did. But Big Pharma realizing their average return on equity not that great decided a pandemic would be great for business and in an Illuminati-sponsored meeting agree to share the profits from a vaccine. Must all be true because an ex CDC employee said it on a YouTube channel.

CAtoMDE
  5/19/2020 10:37 EST

Who the hell knows what the truth is anymore, could very well be that the last US administration with that sleepy guy with the loser son, all corrupt POS set up this whole scenario, hehehehehe

nonames
  5/19/2020 10:44 EST

Pony, your kidding! THAT was on YouTube? Huh! I heard it from my suegra & didn't believe it.

Elexpatriado
  5/19/2020 11:46 EST

Skyman and Yolotengo..sitting in a tree..K.I.S.S:I.N.G:!

SkyMan
  5/19/2020 11:59 EST

I think we'll have to work real hard to actually Define the Word Truth. In today's Politically-Correct-World....maybe it does not mean what it used to mean. I feel sure the millennials may have a new-version of it's definition. Stay Well. Buena Suerte !

SkyMan
  5/20/2020 11:46 EST

Elex......that must be some really strong "creepy" you're inhaling right now. It does warp one's mind a bit I have heard. Stay Well. Buena Suerte !

ponymalta2
  5/20/2020 16:32 EST

Quindita,

That website -besides interviewing quack 'doctors', seems to have a rather checkered reputation I am not sure why it would be "100%" worth listening to. Founder is selling a rather dubious 'masterclass' on how to make money- I saw an article that stated Scotland Yard is already investigating the founder.

ponymalta2
  5/20/2020 16:36 EST

nonames, but yes your suegra told her cousin who then relayed the information to the fourth cousin of my suegra- overheard by a tax driver whose son broke the news on Twitter ans an alternate news site then posted on YouTube. Big Pharma of course monitors all this- and even though their return on equity a bit over average, they have an underground bunker dedicated to spreading the use of vaccines.

,

stoneshirt
  6/5/2020 17:04 EST

"as if people cant think for themselves. "

What makes you think they can?
stoneshirt.

Paco23
  7/30/2020 12:02 EST

Since many do not believe COVID was “created” by China, what are your thoughts on the seeds?

ponymalta2
  7/30/2020 14:30 EST

Quindita

It isn't a case of having an open mind. it is a question of avoiding nonsense by clearly unqualified people. It wasn't 'mud slinging' to point out the lack of qualifications of that fellow.

I actively will seek out different intelligent different points of view, but nonsense doesn't advance understanding. And consider the source, RealLondon definiteltly comes across as a bit sleazy organization- my prediction is these idiotic courses they sell will eventually cause the authorities to shut it down. (And that Integrative Medicine crowd that fellow you cite associated with definitely a disreputable group that sells some way over-priced courses)

If having an open mind means reading every bit of nonsense , conspiracy-type, video out there by non qualified people with dubious qualifications, the world is in for a bad time.

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